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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Richie London on 31 January 2009, 14:32:42
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http://www.dailyexpress.co.uk/posts/view/82664
i hope theres a protest in london organised :y :y
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there should be a transport protest that actually does something unlike the fuel one in 2000
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without wanting to be shouted down as a racist (i don't care what you call me really) but isn't it about time this country started doing something for it's own people.
You can spout on that foreign employees work harder but the simple fact is we should not be letting them have OUR jobs.
I was given a Redundancy Warning notice yesterday and things are far from rosey, but what's going to get my goat is if me or my fellow British collegues get the boot instead of the foreigners in the office >:(
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without wanting to be shouted down as a racist (i don't care what you call me really) but isn't it about time this country started doing something for it's own people.
You can spout on that foreign employees work harder but the simple fact is we should not be letting them have OUR jobs.
I was given a Redundancy Warning notice yesterday and things are far from rosey, but what's going to get my goat is if me or my fellow British collegues get the boot instead of the foreigners in the office >:(
Understand how you mean...
I applied for a job last year doing systems analysis... I knew someone already in the same department. Had the interview, all went well... Friend said I was the best candidate for the job in regards to the interviews & experience I already had, great I thought...
But, it was discussed about showing impartiality, so they hired someone who wasn't british for the role, even though there interview didn't go so good...
4 months down the road, the person they hired gets the boot as they were farking useless & I get a call back saying am I still interested... My answer - No... as because they did that little trick, I've had to forgo my placement year with Uni now, and go back...
Good on the guys standing up for the principles, too many civil liberties have been lost if your British now... PC brigade can just fek right off... its beyond a joke >:(
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in my work most comapies use agencies now, so the agencies use east europeans on a very low rate, same old story. profit first no matter what there experience is they pass them off as tradesmen. i struggle like hell most of the time
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The oil refinery job with the Italian workforce was awarded to the Italians by an American company,the Americans are probably bemused because from their point of view it was a european contract awarded to a european state,which to them is the same as workers from Texas working in Alabama.They view us as one of the european states because thats what we are.our politicians try to keep it a bit hush hush but they long ago signed us up to the united states of europe,and the only options imo are to accept it and stop pretending its not true or leave europe completely and see if the British can still survive on their own.Personally I favour the latter option.
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The Programme of the British Workers' Party is designed to be of limited duration. The leaders have no intention, once the aims announced in it have been achieved, of establishing fresh ones, merely in order to increase, artificially, the discontent of the masses and so ensure the continued existence of the Party.
1. We demand the union of all British in a Greater Britain on the basis of the right of national self-determination.
2. We demand equality of rights for the British people in its dealings with other nations.
3. Only members of the nation may be citizens of the State. Only those of British blood, whatever be their creed, may be members of the nation. Accordingly, no Jew may be a member of the nation.
4. Non-citizens may live in Britain only as guests and must be subject to laws for aliens.
5. The right to vote on the State's government and legislation shall be enjoyed by the citizens of the State alone. We demand therefore that all official appointments, of whatever kind, whether in the British State, in the states or in the smaller localities, shall be held by none but citizens.
We oppose the corrupting parliamentary custom of filling posts merely in accordance with party considerations, and without reference to character or abilities.
6. We demand that the State shall make it its primary duty to provide a livelihood for its citizens. If it should prove impossible to feed the entire population, foreign nationals (non-citizens) must be deported from Britain.
7 All British immigration must be prevented. We demand that all non-British who entered Britain after 1945 shall be required to leave Britain forthwith.
8. All citizens shall have equal rights and duties.
9. It must be the first duty of every citizen to perform physical or mental work. The activities of the individual must not clash with the general interest, but must proceed within the framework of the community and be for the general good.
We demand therefore:
10. The abolition of incomes unearned by work.
The breaking of the slavery of interest
11. In view of the enormous sacrifices of life and property demanded of a nation by any war, personal enrichment from war must be regarded as a crime against the nation. We demand therefore the ruthless confiscation of all war profits.
12. We demand the nationalization of all businesses which have been formed into corporations (trusts).
13. We demand profit-sharing in large industrial enterprises.
14. We demand the extensive development of insurance for old age.
15. We demand the creation and maintenance of a healthy middle class, the immediate communalizing of big department stores, and their lease at a cheap rate to small traders, and that the utmost consideration shall be shown to all small traders in the placing of State and municiple orders.
16. We demand a land reform suitable to our national requirements, the passing of a law for the expropriation of land for communal purposes without compensation; the abolition of ground rent, and the prohibition of all speculation in land. *
17. We demand the ruthless prosecution of those whose activities are injurious to the common interest. Common criminals, usurers, profiteers, etc., must be punished with death, whatever their creed or race.
18. We demand that Roman Law, which serves a materialistic world order, be replaced by a new totally British common law.
19. The State must consider a thorough reconstruction of our national system of education (with the aim of opening up to every able and hard-working British the possibility of higher education and of thus obtaining advancement). The curricula of all educational establishments must be brought into line with the requirements of practical life. The aim of the school must be to give the pupil, beginning with the first sign of intelligence, a grasp of the nation of the State (through the study of civic affairs). We demand the education of gifted children of poor parents, whatever their class or occupation, at the expense of the State.
20. The State must ensure that the nation's health standards are raised by protecting mothers and infants, by prohibiting child labor, by promoting physical strength through legislation providing for compulsory gymnastics and sports, and by the extensive support of clubs engaged in the physical training of youth.
21. We demand the abolition of the mercenary army and the foundation of a people's army.
22. We demand legal warfare on deliberate political mendacity and its dissemination in the press. To facilitate the creation of a British national press we demand:
(a) that all editors of, and contributors to newspapers appearing in the English language must be members of the nation;
(b) that no non-British newspapers may appear without the express permission of the State. They must not be printed in the English language;
(c) that non-British shall be prohibited by law from participating financially in or influencing British newspapers, and that the penalty for contravening such a law shall be the suppression of any such newspaper, and the immediate deportation of the non-British involved.
The publishing of papers which are not conducive to the national welfare must be forbidden. We demand the legal prosecution of all those tendencies in art and literature which corrupt our national life, and the suppression of cultural events which violate this demand.
23. We demand freedom for all religious denominations in the State, provided they do not threaten its existence not offend the moral feelings of the British race.
24. To put the whole of this programme into effect, we demand the creation of a strong central state power for the Country; the unconditional authority of the political central Parliament over the entire Country and its organizations; and the formation of Corporations based on estate and occupation for the purpose of carrying out the general legislation passed by the British in the various British states.
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looks suspiciously like a communist manifesto to me ....
especially when I read stuff like this
we demand the creation of a strong central state power for the Country; the unconditional authority of the political central Parliament over the entire Country and its organizations; and the formation of Corporations based on estate and occupation for the purpose of carrying out the general legislation passed by the British
so woolly and loose it makes anice sound bite but can mean whatever its authors want
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continued from first post/.......
The Party, as such, stands for positive Christianity, but does not commit itself to any particular denomination. It combats the Jewish-materialistic spirit within and without us, and is convinced that our nation can achieve permanent health only from within on the basis of the principle: The common interest before self-interest.
24. To put the whole of this programme into effect, we demand the creation of a strong central state power for the Country; the unconditional authority of the political central Parliament over the entire Country and its organizations; and the formation of Corporations based on estate and occupation for the purpose of carrying out the general legislation passed by the British in the various British states.
The leaders of the Party promise to work ruthlessly -- if need be to sacrifice their very lives -- to translate this programme into action.
Don't worry, I have not published a new manifest for my British Nationalist Party!! ::) ::) ::)
I have just reworked the original 25 point plan of Hitler and the Nazis from April 20th 1920. :-X :-X
Judging by what some are muttering at the moment, perhaps this is what you want?? But just remember what happened between 1933 and 1945!! A warning from History! :o :o :o :o :o
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As bad as it sounds I'd probably vote for whoever's manefesto that was. I especially like the 'Non-citizens may live in Britain only as guests and must be subject to laws for aliens.' bit!
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I think it should be possible to re-introduce common sense into the governance of this country,which reverses the positive discrimination lunacy,which has made ordinary working people feel totally disenfranchised without resorting to national socialism/fascism.
the problem is that imo we have the worst government in living memory and the alternative is very obviously,not much better.
To suggest that expecting the British government to put its electorate at the top of its agenda is bordering on nazism is quite bizzare imo.
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without wanting to be shouted down as a racist (i don't care what you call me really) but isn't it about time this country started doing something for it's own people.
You can spout on that foreign employees work harder but the simple fact is we should not be letting them have OUR jobs.
I was given a Redundancy Warning notice yesterday and things are far from rosey, but what's going to get my goat is if me or my fellow British collegues get the boot instead of the foreigners in the office >:(
Totally agree m8 spot on :y
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the proplem here is the title of this thread"someone" you all want "someone" to do it as long as its not you.for instance do you protest?,speak to your mp,?join a union ?surport your workmate?
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you dont want to get involved you all think"somone" will do it for you,well let me tell you you are "someone",what will it take before you do something for" someone"?
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without wanting to be shouted down as a racist (i don't care what you call me really) but isn't it about time this country started doing something for it's own people.
You can spout on that foreign employees work harder but the simple fact is we should not be letting them have OUR jobs.
I was given a Redundancy Warning notice yesterday and things are far from rosey, but what's going to get my goat is if me or my fellow British collegues get the boot instead of the foreigners in the office >:(
Hmmm what about the jobs us Brits don't want too do....the jobs that don't pay enough for us too do...the jobs we don't have enough skilled personnel too fill.
There's thousands of jobs available...but people seem too think that because they had an office job there too good too work in a warehouse....warehouse workers too good too work in a factory....factory worker too good too be a cleaner....see where im coming from.
Then there's nursing positions....friend of mine is a fully qualified nurse in the philippines (trained too american levels) yet he has too work in a care home here as his credentials are not recognized....another was a senior chemotherapy nurse and again until he at his own expense sat the uk exams couldn't work in his own specialised field.
Neither complain about it...they just get on and do it,THEY do it as theres not enough Brits wanting too do the work.
So its more a case we DONT want the work yet we DONT want others too do it either.... :-? ::)
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the proplem here is the title of this thread"someone" you all want "someone" to do it as long as its not you.for instance do you protest?,speak to your mp,?join a union ?surport your workmate?
NO
you dont want to get involved you all think"somone" will do it for you,well let me tell you you are "someone",what will it take before you do something for" someone"?
:y :y :y :y Couldn't have put it better. Although I probably could have been a bit more sarcastic. ::)
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without wanting to be shouted down as a racist (i don't care what you call me really) but isn't it about time this country started doing something for it's own people.
You can spout on that foreign employees work harder but the simple fact is we should not be letting them have OUR jobs.
I was given a Redundancy Warning notice yesterday and things are far from rosey, but what's going to get my goat is if me or my fellow British collegues get the boot instead of the foreigners in the office >:(
Hmmm what about the jobs us Brits don't want too do....the jobs that don't pay enough for us too do...the jobs we don't have enough skilled personnel too fill.
There's thousands of jobs available...but people seem too think that because they had an office job there too good too work in a warehouse....warehouse workers too good too work in a factory....factory worker too good too be a cleaner....see where im coming from.
Then there's nursing positions....friend of mine is a fully qualified nurse in the philippines (trained too american levels) yet he has too work in a care home here as his credentials are not recognized....another was a senior chemotherapy nurse and again until he at his own expense sat the uk exams couldn't work in his own specialised field.
Neither complain about it...they just get on and do it,THEY do it as theres not enough Brits wanting too do the work.
So its more a case we DONT want the work yet we DONT want others too do it either.... :-? ::)
Agree with that to some extent but, most of the jobs are taken by foreigners' meaning that British people can't do it.
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without wanting to be shouted down as a racist (i don't care what you call me really) but isn't it about time this country started doing something for it's own people.
You can spout on that foreign employees work harder but the simple fact is we should not be letting them have OUR jobs.
I was given a Redundancy Warning notice yesterday and things are far from rosey, but what's going to get my goat is if me or my fellow British collegues get the boot instead of the foreigners in the office >:(
Hmmm what about the jobs us Brits don't want too do....the jobs that don't pay enough for us too do...the jobs we don't have enough skilled personnel too fill.
There's thousands of jobs available...but people seem too think that because they had an office job there too good too work in a warehouse....warehouse workers too good too work in a factory....factory worker too good too be a cleaner....see where im coming from.
Then there's nursing positions....friend of mine is a fully qualified nurse in the philippines (trained too american levels) yet he has too work in a care home here as his credentials are not recognized....another was a senior chemotherapy nurse and again until he at his own expense sat the uk exams couldn't work in his own specialised field.
Neither complain about it...they just get on and do it,THEY do it as theres not enough Brits wanting too do the work.
So its more a case we DONT want the work yet we DONT want others too do it either.... :-? ::)
Agree with that to some extent but, most of the jobs are taken by foreigners' meaning that British people can't do it.
Cant or wont....id say the latter.
And maybe we should be asking why they might have a job instead of a Brit...maybe there more skilled.
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without wanting to be shouted down as a racist (i don't care what you call me really) but isn't it about time this country started doing something for it's own people.
You can spout on that foreign employees work harder but the simple fact is we should not be letting them have OUR jobs.
I was given a Redundancy Warning notice yesterday and things are far from rosey, but what's going to get my goat is if me or my fellow British collegues get the boot instead of the foreigners in the office >:(
Hmmm what about the jobs us Brits don't want too do....the jobs that don't pay enough for us too do...the jobs we don't have enough skilled personnel too fill.
There's thousands of jobs available...but people seem too think that because they had an office job there too good too work in a warehouse....warehouse workers too good too work in a factory....factory worker too good too be a cleaner....see where im coming from.
Then there's nursing positions....friend of mine is a fully qualified nurse in the philippines (trained too american levels) yet he has too work in a care home here as his credentials are not recognized....another was a senior chemotherapy nurse and again until he at his own expense sat the uk exams couldn't work in his own specialised field.
Neither complain about it...they just get on and do it,THEY do it as theres not enough Brits wanting too do the work.
So its more a case we DONT want the work yet we DONT want others too do it either.... :-? ::)
Agree with that to some extent but, most of the jobs are taken by foreigners' meaning that British people can't do it.
Cant or wont....id say the latter.
And maybe we should be asking why they might have a job instead of a Brit...maybe there more skilled.
Is it that they are more skilled or is it that they work for less money?
A friend of mine has had all of his overtime cut because it is being filled with temps instead is that fair?
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without wanting to be shouted down as a racist (i don't care what you call me really) but isn't it about time this country started doing something for it's own people.
You can spout on that foreign employees work harder but the simple fact is we should not be letting them have OUR jobs.
I was given a Redundancy Warning notice yesterday and things are far from rosey, but what's going to get my goat is if me or my fellow British collegues get the boot instead of the foreigners in the office >:(
Hmmm what about the jobs us Brits don't want too do....the jobs that don't pay enough for us too do...the jobs we don't have enough skilled personnel too fill.
There's thousands of jobs available...but people seem too think that because they had an office job there too good too work in a warehouse....warehouse workers too good too work in a factory....factory worker too good too be a cleaner....see where im coming from.
Then there's nursing positions....friend of mine is a fully qualified nurse in the philippines (trained too american levels) yet he has too work in a care home here as his credentials are not recognized....another was a senior chemotherapy nurse and again until he at his own expense sat the uk exams couldn't work in his own specialised field.
Neither complain about it...they just get on and do it,THEY do it as theres not enough Brits wanting too do the work.
So its more a case we DONT want the work yet we DONT want others too do it either.... :-? ::)
Agree with that to some extent but, most of the jobs are taken by foreigners' meaning that British people can't do it.
Cant or wont....id say the latter.
And maybe we should be asking why they might have a job instead of a Brit...maybe there more skilled.
Is it that they are more skilled or is it that they work for less money?
A friend of mine has had all of his overtime cut because it is being filled with temps instead is that fair?
But there not the problem....its the employer at fault.
I understand what your saying but really we cant blame others for simply taking advantage of a greedy employer.
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from the beginning of this thread I read with a high interest..
As a foreign member of this forum if I have right to talk on that subject I want to say some words..
main problem is and not only in UK also in whole world
Global capitalism is knocking your door..with cheap and hungry labour as a tool..and forcing you to work with lower salaries and less guarantee and rights..
only solution is that all the workers must come together..and make an organization .. :-/
and I also must add that the local employers are forced to have low salary workers in order to[ch305] compete..
in my country also nowadays employers choose oother countries to make factories and some other producing facilities where the labour is cheap.. :(
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from the beginning of this thread I read with a high interest..
As a foreign member of this forum if I have right to talk on that subject I want to say some words..
main problem is and not only in UK also in whole world
Global capitalism is knocking your door..with cheap and hungry labour as a tool..and forcing you to work with lower salaries and less guarantee and rights..
only solution is that all the workers must come together..and make an organization .. :-/
Good idea. We'll call it..erm...a union :y
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from the beginning of this thread I read with a high interest..
As a foreign member of this forum if I have right to talk on that subject I want to say some words..
main problem is and not only in UK also in whole world
Global capitalism is knocking your door..with cheap and hungry labour as a tool..and forcing you to work with lower salaries and less guarantee and rights..
only solution is that all the workers must come together..and make an organization .. :-/
Good idea. We'll call it..erm...a union :y
I know..but you need something stronger than a union :)
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in my country these unions abilities and legal rights are completely cut and become useless.. And I dont think yours are very different..
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It's pie in the sky Cem. Everyone is only interested in their own circumstances. A bit like Nero fiddling while Rome burned, but that's the way it is. Learn to live with it and just look after your own.
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The Party, as such, stands for positive Christianity, but does not commit itself to any particular denomination. It combats the Jewish-materialistic spirit within and without us, and is convinced that our nation can achieve permanent health only from within on the basis of the principle: The common interest before self-interest.
24. To put the whole of this programme into effect, we demand the creation of a strong central state power for the Country; the unconditional authority of the political central Parliament over the entire Country and its organizations; and the formation of Corporations based on estate and occupation for the purpose of carrying out the general legislation passed by the British in the various British states.
The leaders of the Party promise to work ruthlessly -- if need be to sacrifice their very lives -- to translate this programme into action.
Don't worry, I have not published a new manifest for my British Nationalist Party!! ::) ::) ::)
I have just reworked the original 25 point plan of Hitler and the Nazis from April 20th 1920. :-X :-X
Judging by what some are muttering at the moment, perhaps this is what you want?? But just remember what happened between 1933 and 1945!! A warning from History! :o :o :o :o :o
;D
Lizzie , I think you will be succcesful in politics :y :y
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It's pie in the sky Cem. Everyone is only interested in their own circumstances. A bit like Nero fiddling while Rome burned, but that's the way it is. Learn to live with it and just look after your own.
UK have real accumulation of knowledge in unions and other related things..considering its early industrialization structure and level of culture.. Believe me its a pie in front of your nose :y
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seeing as how we are discussing this i will chuck my twopenneth worth.
I feel there is no reason for the strike/protest, the contract was won by tender, a foreign company won that tender and it is up to them as to who they employ.
They claim that the skillset required is not in the area to carry out the task, if that's the case then again why is there all this moaning.
If the sucsessful company want to bring in their own staff from another country then so be it.
Like it or not we now live in the european market, we have as much right to go into another country and work in their environment, i have no doubt they will moan about that as well, but hey its a free market.
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The title of the topic says it all :y :y :y :y :y
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seeing as how we are discussing this i will chuck my twopenneth worth.
I feel there is no reason for the strike/protest, the contract was won by tender, a foreign company won that tender and it is up to them as to who they employ.
They claim that the skillset required is not in the area to carry out the task, if that's the case then again why is there all this moaning.
If the sucsessful company want to bring in their own staff from another country then so be it.
Like it or not we now live in the european market, we have as much right to go into another country and work in their environment, i have no doubt they will moan about that as well, but hey its a free market.
trust me if they only moan thats very good..they will not be gentle like you ;D
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seeing as how we are discussing this i will chuck my twopenneth worth.
I feel there is no reason for the strike/protest, the contract was won by tender, a foreign company won that tender and it is up to them as to who they employ.
They claim that the skillset required is not in the area to carry out the task, if that's the case then again why is there all this moaning.
If the sucsessful company want to bring in their own staff from another country then so be it.
Like it or not we now live in the european market, we have as much right to go into another country and work in their environment, i have no doubt they will moan about that as well, but hey its a free market.
Hey, you are confusing the European Union, which we are a member of! and the Common Market, which we voted to join. Don't blame foreigners they are just playing by the rules that this and other 'nammby pammby goverments think-up. I would also like to refer back to the thread a week or two ago "I'm not British, I'M ENGLISH". :y