I really don't see how a private remark such as Carol Thatcher made could result in her being banned from the BBC.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/4518995/Viewers-complain-to-BBC-about-ban-on-Carol-Thatcher.html
As it happens, when I used to work in the City, there was a trader who wore big round glasses and had a mass of frizzy hair. He was known to everyone as Golly. He took no offence at all. He really did look like the Robertson's Golliwog. He was white, though (but should that make a difference?).
Why is the BBC so up its own a*rse that it should react so strongly over a minor, unbroadcast, comment? >:(
I think she makes great TV (eccentric) and I am quite annoyed at this
QuoteI think she makes great TV (eccentric) and I am quite annoyed at this
me too m8. didnt the kumars used to take the pi$$ out of white people on telly. i cant remember seeing any complaints about that, didnt bother me. i think the bbc should be ashamed for what they have done here.
QuoteI think she makes great TV (eccentric) and I am quite annoyed at this
me too m8. didnt the kumars used to take the pi$$ out of white people on telly. i cant remember seeing any complaints about that, didnt bother me. i think the bbc should be ashamed for what they have done here.
QuoteI think she makes great TV (eccentric) and I am quite annoyed at this
me too m8. didnt the kumars used to take the pi$$ out of white people on telly. i cant remember seeing any complaints about that, didnt bother me. i think the bbc should be ashamed for what they have done here.
QuoteQuoteI think she makes great TV (eccentric) and I am quite annoyed at this
me too m8. didnt the kumars used to take the pi$$ out of white people on telly. i cant remember seeing any complaints about that, didnt bother me. i think the bbc should be ashamed for what they have done here.
Bring back "Love thy Neighber" to TV.
Anyone remember it. It was bloody hillarious. ;D ;D[size=8]If the following video offends then please contact Admin or myself and it will be removed.[/size]
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QuoteQuoteI think she makes great TV (eccentric) and I am quite annoyed at this
me too m8. didnt the kumars used to take the pi$$ out of white people on telly. i cant remember seeing any complaints about that, didnt bother me. i think the bbc should be ashamed for what they have done here.
the kumars took the pi$$ out of racist values on TV by reversing the stereotypes they highlighted how ludicrous racism is
look out old clips of the black and white minstrel show, love thy neighbour and other crap of its ilk - if you can look at that garbage now and not cringe then theres something wrong :-?
So, the thought police are here already? >:(
Personally, I`m with Voltaire on this:
"I disagree strongly with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."
François-Marie Arouet (21 November 1694 – 30 May 1778), better known by the pen name Voltaire, was a French Enlightenment writer, essayist and philosopher known for his defence of civil liberties, including freedom of religion and the right to a fair trial. He was an outspoken supporter of social reform.
Pathetic! why would anyone choose to take offence?
The player in question is Frenchman Gael Monfils, the hair has a vague similarity to the child's toy!
Some royals are often referred to as looking like horses. People with a certain hairstyle are said to resemble Hitler (nice!).
Its about time people who have no reason to take offence STOP taking offence on behalf of others - those others who generally don't!
Get off your high-princess anne!
QuoteQuoteI think she makes great TV (eccentric) and I am quite annoyed at this
me too m8. didnt the kumars used to take the pi$$ out of white people on telly. i cant remember seeing any complaints about that, didnt bother me. i think the bbc should be ashamed for what they have done here.
Bring back "Love thy Neighber" to TV.
Anyone remember it. It was bloody hillarious. ;D ;D[size=8]If the following video offends then please contact Admin or myself and it will be removed.[/size]
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I think the way things are going is that almost any term used meant with malice or humor can be taken as offensive or disrespectful.
Almost all humor can be derived from misfortune. Observational comedy will soon be limited/restricted.
Any joke, sketch, skit if you will, to be broadcast in the future, will have to go through a strict pre-approval. Censorship if you will.
I understand and appreciate this process is (should) done at present, but to a limited degree. It will get to a point where the very humor itself will be removed from the material. Pretty much destroying comedy.
I can certainly see traces of 1983 appearing.
QuoteI think the way things are going is that almost any term used meant with malice or humor can be taken as offensive or disrespectful.
Almost all humor can be derived from misfortune. Observational comedy will soon be limited/restricted.
Any joke, sketch, skit if you will, to be broadcast in the future, will have to go through a strict pre-approval. Censorship if you will.
I understand and appreciate this process is (should) done at present, but to a limited degree. It will get to a point where the very humor itself will be removed from the material. Pretty much destroying comedy.
I can certainly see traces of 1983 appearing.
;D ;D ;D That`d be Orwell`s first draft then? ;D ;D ;D
QuoteQuoteI think the way things are going is that almost any term used meant with malice or humor can be taken as offensive or disrespectful.
Almost all humor can be derived from misfortune. Observational comedy will soon be limited/restricted.
Any joke, sketch, skit if you will, to be broadcast in the future, will have to go through a strict pre-approval. Censorship if you will.
I understand and appreciate this process is (should) done at present, but to a limited degree. It will get to a point where the very humor itself will be removed from the material. Pretty much destroying comedy.
I can certainly see traces of 1983 appearing.
;D ;D ;D That`d be Orwell`s first draft then? ;D ;D ;D
Animal Farm was better,in my view. :-* :-* :-*
I say abolish the licence fee and bring the whole gravy train to a halt.
I would like to see the linen suited sandal wearing gaurdian reading champagne socialist thought police who run the BBC try to survive in the real business world.
QuoteQuoteI think she makes great TV (eccentric) and I am quite annoyed at this
me too m8. didnt the kumars used to take the pi$$ out of white people on telly. i cant remember seeing any complaints about that, didnt bother me. i think the bbc should be ashamed for what they have done here.
They took the piss out of everyone - as they said, Indians born and brought up in the UK have a unique view point of both cultures. and pretty funnyPersonally I think the Kumar lot are good writers
Its only racist if the intent was to be descending.
I do think some people use any excuse to say something is racist/sexist/ageist etc.
I'm well known on here for calling people gay. I like to think that everyone on here knows its in no may derogatory to anyone - I have plenty of gay friends (oddly, one of them was what got me into Omegas). I'm far from homophobic.
I sit next to an Asian guy at work - he tends to look after OOF server when I'm not around - and call him every name under the sun. Whatever I call him, it ain't racist.
Some people complain purely for their own gain or ego - I'll class that ugly bitch whos always on the BBC from Liberty in that. Or is calling a specific Asian woman ugly racist?
That to me is highly offensiveQuoteI really don't see how a private remark such as Carol Thatcher made could result in her being banned from the BBC.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/4518995/Viewers-complain-to-BBC-about-ban-on-Carol-Thatcher.html
As it happens, when I used to work in the City, there was a trader who wore big round glasses and had a mass of frizzy hair. He was known to everyone as Golly. He took no offence at all. He really did look like the Robertson's Golliwog. He was white, though (but should that make a difference?).
Why is the BBC so up its own a*rse that it should react so strongly over a minor, unbroadcast, comment? >:(
absolutely it makes a difference
its a horrible term - i remember black kids getting bullied at school and having the term directed at them in a derogatory manner - no matter what it used to mean - its a term thats been tarnished and used as an insult - as far as i'm concerned.
i thought most right thinking people had stopped using the word sometime back in the seventies.
it has highlighted what a stupid bint Thatcher is - which is a small compensation - i'd say she should know better, but then you look at who brought her up and its no surprise.
QuoteI think the way things are going is that almost any term used meant with malice or humor can be taken as offensive or disrespectful.
Almost all humor can be derived from misfortune. Observational comedy will soon be limited/restricted.
Any joke, sketch, skit if you will, to be broadcast in the future, will have to go through a strict pre-approval. Censorship if you will.
I understand and appreciate this process is (should) done at present, but to a limited degree. It will get to a point where the very humor itself will be removed from the material. Pretty much destroying comedy.
I can certainly see traces of 1983 appearing.
;D ;D ;D That`d be Orwell`s first draft then? ;D ;D ;D
Just seen the trailer for Question time on the beeb and they said the magic word "golliwog incident" and guess who one the tha panilists is "The most dangerous women in britain" aka shami chakrabati of liberty ,I can just imagine the hysterical outbursts are going to be like , they might as well hang draw and quarter, carol thatcher if the bbc had its way
its got f-ck all to do with racism, its about world order! ( hold on )
all this 'dangle berries' written by the media is to make every one scared to say anything, i hear it every day cant smack yer kids , dont say anything offensive, cos ya will get knicked, and now we are scared to say anything! its f-cking brain washing,
black white gay straight if your a c-nt your a c-nt an i will let ya know!
if your ok then your ok,
english people should be f-cking ashamed ov themselfs for letting all this sh-t go on,
f-ck pc 'dangle berries' its a f-cking joke that we have let this get this far!
Heres the next target of the pc brigade .....http://latestnews.virginmedia.com/news/uk/2009/02/06/clarkson_labels_pm_one_eyed_idiot and heres the best line from some unknown ar*e kissing polition"Most people here are proud that the Prime Minister is a Scot and believe him to be the right person to get the UK through this global economic crisis."Quoteits got f-ck all to do with racism, its about world order! ( hold on )
all this 'dangle berries' written by the media is to make every one scared to say anything, i hear it every day cant smack yer kids , dont say anything offensive, cos ya will get knicked, and now we are scared to say anything! its f-cking brain washing,
black white gay straight if your a c-nt your a c-nt an i will let ya know!
if your ok then your ok,
english people should be f-cking ashamed ov themselfs for letting all this sh-t go on,
f-ck pc 'dangle berries' its a f-cking joke that we have let this get this far!
got it in one. and brown is loving it.any excuse to put the english down it will be brought up for maximum publicity, any other race, cover it up. the british way of life is nearly over. brown and the eu have destroyed it. wonder how these muppets would have stood up to maggie. no chance. shes more of a man than the whole of the house of commons. :(
:-* No-offense meant Big_Fra :-*QuoteQuoteI think the way things are going is that almost any term used meant with malice or humor can be taken as offensive or disrespectful.
Almost all humor can be derived from misfortune. Observational comedy will soon be limited/restricted.
Any joke, sketch, skit if you will, to be broadcast in the future, will have to go through a strict pre-approval. Censorship if you will.
I understand and appreciate this process is (should) done at present, but to a limited degree. It will get to a point where the very humor itself will be removed from the material. Pretty much destroying comedy.
I can certainly see traces of 1983 appearing.
;D ;D ;D That`d be Orwell`s first draft then? ;D ;D ;D
Yes Debs, thats the lesser known first edition. :-[
Thanks for pointing that out. :-X
Ahem
I really should check what I type before I post it eh? Or are you gonna do that for me now debs? ::) ::)
Anyway, you all know what I was meaning.
QuoteThat to me is highly offensiveQuoteI really don't see how a private remark such as Carol Thatcher made could result in her being banned from the BBC.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/4518995/Viewers-complain-to-BBC-about-ban-on-Carol-Thatcher.html
As it happens, when I used to work in the City, there was a trader who wore big round glasses and had a mass of frizzy hair. He was known to everyone as Golly. He took no offence at all. He really did look like the Robertson's Golliwog. He was white, though (but should that make a difference?).
Why is the BBC so up its own a*rse that it should react so strongly over a minor, unbroadcast, comment? >:(
absolutely it makes a difference
its a horrible term - i remember black kids getting bullied at school and having the term directed at them in a derogatory manner - no matter what it used to mean - its a term thats been tarnished and used as an insult - as far as i'm concerned.
i thought most right thinking people had stopped using the word sometime back in the seventies.
it has highlighted what a stupid bint Thatcher is - which is a small compensation - i'd say she should know better, but then you look at who brought her up and its no surprise.
Name any time Mrs Thatcher was observed being racist or it was inferred that she was - i await the reams of quotes :(
jeremy clarkson called gordon brown "a one-eyed, scottish twit"
apparently - and folk are calling for his head - :(
one-eyed - true
scottish - true
twit - personal opinion
now, if brown was black, and he'd called him a one-eyed, scottish golliwog then he would be - rightly - sacked
thats the difference, when you don't have the intelligence to differentiate between a personal opinion which may or may not be shared by others, and a racist insult
clarkson is intelligent
thatcher is not - and proved it :o
Quotejeremy clarkson called gordon brown "a one-eyed, scottish twit"
apparently - and folk are calling for his head - :(
one-eyed - true
scottish - true
twit - personal opinion
now, if brown was black, and he'd called him a one-eyed, scottish golliwog then he would be - rightly - sacked
thats the difference, when you don't have the intelligence to differentiate between a personal opinion which may or may not be shared by others, and a racist insult
clarkson is intelligent
thatcher is not - and proved it :o
Twisted logic, I'm afraid.
Our Great Leader has one eye and Clarkson pointed that out in the remark. Having one eye means you are physically deficient. It is also obvious in your facial appearance. Clarkson's comment was derogatory, indeed he highlighting a handicap. I am not offended by it, and I don't suppose GB is either. You need a thick skin in politics.
If someone has black skin, it is not a deficiency like having one eye.
Add an afro hairdo and large round spectacles and that person will look like a Golliwog. You wouldn't call Barack Obama a golliwog, because he doesn't look like one. Therefore it is not a racist term, per se.
Neither Thatcher nor Clarkson are unintelligent.
QuoteHeres the next target of the pc brigade .....http://latestnews.virginmedia.com/news/uk/2009/02/06/clarkson_labels_pm_one_eyed_idiot and heres the best line from some unknown ar*e kissing polition"Most people here are proud that the Prime Minister is a Scot and believe him to be the right person to get the UK through this global economic crisis."Quoteits got f-ck all to do with racism, its about world order! ( hold on )
all this 'dangle berries' written by the media is to make every one scared to say anything, i hear it every day cant smack yer kids , dont say anything offensive, cos ya will get knicked, and now we are scared to say anything! its f-cking brain washing,
black white gay straight if your a c-nt your a c-nt an i will let ya know!
if your ok then your ok,
english people should be f-cking ashamed ov themselfs for letting all this sh-t go on,
f-ck pc 'dangle berries' its a f-cking joke that we have let this get this far!
got it in one. and brown is loving it.any excuse to put the english down it will be brought up for maximum publicity, any other race, cover it up. the british way of life is nearly over. brown and the eu have destroyed it. wonder how these muppets would have stood up to maggie. no chance. shes more of a man than the whole of the house of commons. :(
having read a lot of comments it appears a lot of people are afraid of "the pc brigade" and they're scared of saying anything that might be taken to be offensive - can i just say - maybe if you have been brought up to believe certain things you have difficulty finding the truth - my dad hated racism and brought us up to oppose injustice and fight for whats right - to me, its something that i don't even think about - i would hate to be in a position where i had to second guess myself - but then i am not concerned about being racist - you're either racist or racism doesn't occur to you
carol thatcher used a word that wouldn't even cross my mind to use - to me, she's either been poorly educated or brought up to believe that its OK to dismiss people in deregotary terms
Mr dispondent 1 ...no need to be sorry entwood you aint done nothing to rub me up the wrong way, my profanity is disguised with the little - so you get the drift without me spelling it out , and my wording reflects my annoyance ! if you find my post tediouse ? dont read them !
Small request from me .... is it really neccessary to litter every post with undisguised profanity ?? It does nothing for your argument at all .. and is .... frankly ... getting tedious .. :(
Sorry ... :(
mind you i have just relooked at it and may be i was a bit ott >:(QuoteMr dispondent 1 ...no need to be sorry entwood you aint done nothing to rub me up the wrong way, my profanity is disguised with the little - so you get the drift without me spelling it out , and my wording reflects my annoyance ! if you find my post tediouse ? dont read them !
Small request from me .... is it really neccessary to litter every post with undisguised profanity ?? It does nothing for your argument at all .. and is .... frankly ... getting tedious .. :(
Sorry ... :(
i dont have an argument , i have an oppinion, and i do voice it .
For Mr Dispondant, had quite a good thread on the TEOC site about the "British" workers strike. My own views are that ,yes, the state should look after its own more and be very careful that tenders arent given out to "cheap foreign labour". On the other hand I work for a company that employs a lot of east european workers and tbh they are no different than anyone else (ie good ones and bad ones). If they want to come over here and earn money for themselves and their family why not, providing those jobs are offered to uk nationals at the same and fair wage. Problem is, these foreign workers got the jobs in this case because not enough "English workers" wanted them at the time so they werent taking them away from english workers. In current climate however, with more people being made redundant etc its just that there are now more english workers who would take such jobs. Does this mean we should force the foreign workers out of their jobs and replace them with english workers? I mean economic downturn is down to govt and banks, not them.no jerry it dont mean we should sack every foreign worker, and my rant was not particually about any of that , my point was english people were allowing them selfs to be shafted by the gov, the pc rubbish, and just about every minority and its about time we stood up for ourselves , and because we dont jesus that REALLY RACKS ME OFF !
jerry
i did work in the millenium mayfair hotel for nearly 2 yrs, 90% must of been east europeans, hotels were owned by singapore company. cleaners get 2.50 a room to clean, they cant do more than 10 a day. there boss is only worth about 600m. exploitation and the govt turns a blind eye, what brit is going to work his balls off for a 12 hr shift for 25 quid. but there all getting nearly tax credits that they havent ever paid. if the govt stopped this going on brits would take these jobs and we wouldnt need foreigners here. 10 yrs ago i could earn 40k easy, now im lucky to make 10
Its only racist if the intent was to be descending.[/highlight]
I do think some people use any excuse to say something is racist/sexist/ageist etc.
I'm well known on here for calling people gay. I like to think that everyone on here knows its in no may derogatory to anyone - I have plenty of gay friends (oddly, one of them was what got me into Omegas). I'm far from homophobic.
I sit next to an Asian guy at work - he tends to look after OOF server when I'm not around - and call him every name under the sun. Whatever I call him, it ain't racist.
Some people complain purely for their own gain or ego - I'll class that ugly bitch whos always on the BBC from Liberty in that. Or is calling a specific Asian woman ugly racist?
Philistine :( :P :-* :-*QuoteQuoteQuoteI think the way things are going is that almost any term used meant with malice or humor can be taken as offensive or disrespectful.
Almost all humor can be derived from misfortune. Observational comedy will soon be limited/restricted.
Any joke, sketch, skit if you will, to be broadcast in the future, will have to go through a strict pre-approval. Censorship if you will.
I understand and appreciate this process is (should) done at present, but to a limited degree. It will get to a point where the very humor itself will be removed from the material. Pretty much destroying comedy.
I can certainly see traces of 1983 appearing.
;D ;D ;D That`d be Orwell`s first draft then? ;D ;D ;D
Animal Farm was better,in my view. :-* :-* :-*
i like a good porn film, but i find that sort of film disgusting. but whatever floats yer boat i always say ;) ;D ;D ;D
Dispondent/richie,its not just one thing jerry that gives me the hump its all of it, i agree with your post , my real problem is english people are laying down and letting people/the powers to be , walk on them! there are lots of issues that need to be addressed but none will if we let ourselves be downtrodden. :(
Cant say I dont have any sympathy for any of what you say. A byproduct of all this PC certainly seems to be that the uk is seen to be (and too often is) a soft touch for a lot of migrant workers. On the otherhand I live on a street where only 4 of us work and we all work long hours and bloodyhard, yet the others (lazy f*cks) live off benefits yet still have newer cars/ smarter phones/ better tvs etc etc. That makes my blood boil just as much. Yes, this govt should look after its own(and in the process help stop virtual slave labour of migrant workers), it should be far tougher on immigration (take a leaf out of France or Australias books) but it should also be far harder on those who choose to live off the state and more understanding of those who have lost their jobs and want to work.0k rant over,
jerry :y
Dispondent/richie,
Cant say I dont have any sympathy for any of what you say. A byproduct of all this PC certainly seems to be that the uk is seen to be (and too often is) a soft touch for a lot of migrant workers. On the otherhand I live on a street where only 4 of us work and we all work long hours and bloodyhard, yet the others (lazy f*cks) live off benefits yet still have newer cars/ smarter phones/ better tvs etc etc. That makes my blood boil just as much. Yes, this govt should look after its own(and in the process help stop virtual slave labour of migrant workers), it should be far tougher on immigration (take a leaf out of France or Australias books) but it should also be far harder on those who choose to live off the state and more understanding of those who have lost their jobs and want to work.0k rant over,
jerry :y
QuoteDispondent/richie,
Cant say I dont have any sympathy for any of what you say. A byproduct of all this PC certainly seems to be that the uk is seen to be (and too often is) a soft touch for a lot of migrant workers. On the otherhand I live on a street where only 4 of us work and we all work long hours and bloodyhard, yet the others (lazy f*cks) live off benefits yet still have newer cars/ smarter phones/ better tvs etc etc. That makes my blood boil just as much. Yes, this govt should look after its own(and in the process help stop virtual slave labour of migrant workers), it should be far tougher on immigration (take a leaf out of France or Australias books) but it should also be far harder on those who choose to live off the state and more understanding of those who have lost their jobs and want to work.0k rant over,
jerry :y
Spot on --- sorry to keep off topic ... but this is a very sore point with me. When I was made redundant a while back, rather than sign on and become "professionally unemployed" I took a job that worked out at 50pence per hour more than I would have got in benefits, so, effectively, I was working for 50 p per hour!
There is no real incentive to work in this country (which might explain why there were so many vacancies open to east europeans in the first instance).
A couple of years ago a local employer here advertised a load of jobs -- and got hardly any response (good rate of pay too). They re-advertised in Polish (at the same rate of pay) and practically filled all the vacancies right away.
Us Brits can't moan about others taking jobs we are too idle to apply for in the first place!
and to dispondent:
"its not just one thing jerry that gives me the hump its all of it, i agree with your post , my real problem is english people are laying down and letting people/the powers to be , walk on them! there are lots of issues that need to be addressed but none will if we let ourselves be downtrodden. :( "
You have a fair point there too -- I fear it's the British way !!!! quote]
Look at the French (whether you like them or not is immaterial) -- if they have a gripe they DO something about it -- no one messes them around![/
thats why i get the hump , cos we dont. >:(
Good luck on the job front Ritchie!!!Been made redundant in the past myself, so know how it feels. One thing I will say tho, is try not to work so many hours as ultimately does neither you or yours any favours-as a workaholic myself I speak from experience!!
best of luck mate,
jerry :y
QuoteGood luck on the job front Ritchie!!!Been made redundant in the past myself, so know how it feels. One thing I will say tho, is try not to work so many hours as ultimately does neither you or yours any favours-as a workaholic myself I speak from experience!!
best of luck mate,
jerry :y
ditto ;)
QuoteIts only racist if the intent was to be descending.[/highlight]
I do think some people use any excuse to say something is racist/sexist/ageist etc.
I'm well known on here for calling people gay. I like to think that everyone on here knows its in no may derogatory to anyone - I have plenty of gay friends (oddly, one of them was what got me into Omegas). I'm far from homophobic.
I sit next to an Asian guy at work - he tends to look after OOF server when I'm not around - and call him every name under the sun. Whatever I call him, it ain't racist.
Some people complain purely for their own gain or ego - I'll class that ugly bitch whos always on the BBC from Liberty in that. Or is calling a specific Asian woman ugly racist?
I think that you refer to Shami Chakrabarti........from liberty TB.....It could just be me......but I find her sexy........and would be more than happy to spend an hour or so with her in a darkened room. :D :D :D :y :y
Over the top but I agree well said!QuoteQuoteHeres the next target of the pc brigade .....http://latestnews.virginmedia.com/news/uk/2009/02/06/clarkson_labels_pm_one_eyed_idiot and heres the best line from some unknown ar*e kissing polition"Most people here are proud that the Prime Minister is a Scot and believe him to be the right person to get the UK through this global economic crisis."Quoteits got f-ck all to do with racism, its about world order! ( hold on )
all this 'dangle berries' written by the media is to make every one scared to say anything, i hear it every day cant smack yer kids , dont say anything offensive, cos ya will get knicked, and now we are scared to say anything! its f-cking brain washing,
black white gay straight if your a c-nt your a c-nt an i will let ya know!
if your ok then your ok,
english people should be f-cking ashamed ov themselfs for letting all this sh-t go on,
f-ck pc 'dangle berries' its a f-cking joke that we have let this get this far!
got it in one. and brown is loving it.any excuse to put the english down it will be brought up for maximum publicity, any other race, cover it up. the british way of life is nearly over. brown and the eu have destroyed it. wonder how these muppets would have stood up to maggie. no chance. shes more of a man than the whole of the house of commons. :(
the comments by the media were "ckarkson is under fire"? by who?
who the f-ck gives a f-ck ! not me , he is a one eyed scotts c-nt and no f-cker wants him , so p-ss off brown ya wanger!
i watched the other post about the bbc not wanting to show ,the muslin riots , that lot can f-ck off as well! whats the matter with us english ? we are p-ssed on, taken the p-ss out ov and just stand back !
REALLY WE SHOULD BE ASHAMED HONESTLY !
a glint of light was the british jobs for british workers thing !
its about f-cking time we stood up for ourselfs !
Are you alowed to say 'golly' anymore?
I'm thinking of the Little Richard song.
At least all-this with Thatcher and Clarkson has got everbody talking; I love a nice masterbate! ::)
;D ;D
Quotejeremy clarkson called gordon brown "a one-eyed, scottish twit"
apparently - and folk are calling for his head - :(
one-eyed - true
scottish - true
twit - personal opinion
now, if brown was black, and he'd called him a one-eyed, scottish golliwog then he would be - rightly - sacked
thats the difference, when you don't have the intelligence to differentiate between a personal opinion which may or may not be shared by others, and a racist insult
clarkson is intelligent
thatcher is not - and proved it :o
Twisted logic, I'm afraid.
Our Great Leader has one eye and Clarkson pointed that out in the remark. Having one eye means you are physically deficient. It is also obvious in your facial appearance. Clarkson's comment was derogatory, indeed he highlighting a handicap. I am not offended by it, and I don't suppose GB is either. You need a thick skin in politics.
If someone has black skin, it is not a deficiency like having one eye.
Add an afro hairdo and large round spectacles and that person will look like a Golliwog. You wouldn't call Barack Obama a golliwog, because he doesn't look like one. Therefore it is not a racist term, per se.
Neither Thatcher nor Clarkson are unintelligent.
QuoteQuotejeremy clarkson called gordon brown "a one-eyed, scottish twit"
apparently - and folk are calling for his head - :(
one-eyed - true
scottish - true
twit - personal opinion
now, if brown was black, and he'd called him a one-eyed, scottish golliwog then he would be - rightly - sacked
thats the difference, when you don't have the intelligence to differentiate between a personal opinion which may or may not be shared by others, and a racist insult
clarkson is intelligent
thatcher is not - and proved it :o
Twisted logic, I'm afraid.
Our Great Leader has one eye and Clarkson pointed that out in the remark. Having one eye means you are physically deficient. It is also obvious in your facial appearance. Clarkson's comment was derogatory, indeed he highlighting a handicap. I am not offended by it, and I don't suppose GB is either. You need a thick skin in politics.
If someone has black skin, it is not a deficiency like having one eye.
Add an afro hairdo and large round spectacles and that person will look like a Golliwog. You wouldn't call Barack Obama a golliwog, because he doesn't look like one. Therefore it is not a racist term, per se.
Neither Thatcher nor Clarkson are unintelligent.
people weren't bought and sold as slaves for having one eye, they weren't persecuted and denied rights - so its not the same thing
interesting peoples perspective on things (including me) - a lot of folk were calling for jonathan ross and russell brands heads - a lot of the same people now defending thatcher - so insulting behaviour is really down to whether you like the person or not?
i'll defend JC, JR and RB cos i find them witty and entertaining, whereas CT i can't stand so i call for her head - maybe its the annoying voice, the pompous, odious personality, the air of superiority
- whatever - i'll concede that she is probably not racist - but she contributes nothing as far as i can see - so i'll happily shove her off the airwaves nickbat :y
QuoteAre you alowed to say 'golly' anymore?
I'm thinking of the Little Richard song.
thats ok, molly was white and she worked for the grace bros alongside mr humphries ;)
QuoteQuoteAre you alowed to say 'golly' anymore?
I'm thinking of the Little Richard song.
thats ok, molly was white and she worked for the grace bros alongside mr humphries ;)
Are you talking about the legendary "Mrs Slocombe".......who always had a wet pussy .....that needed a stroke. ::) ::) ::) :y
QuoteQuotejeremy clarkson called gordon brown "a one-eyed, scottish twit"
apparently - and folk are calling for his head - :(
one-eyed - true
scottish - true
twit - personal opinion
now, if brown was black, and he'd called him a one-eyed, scottish golliwog then he would be - rightly - sacked
thats the difference, when you don't have the intelligence to differentiate between a personal opinion which may or may not be shared by others, and a racist insult
clarkson is intelligent
thatcher is not - and proved it :o
Twisted logic, I'm afraid.
Our Great Leader has one eye and Clarkson pointed that out in the remark. Having one eye means you are physically deficient. It is also obvious in your facial appearance. Clarkson's comment was derogatory, indeed he highlighting a handicap. I am not offended by it, and I don't suppose GB is either. You need a thick skin in politics.
If someone has black skin, it is not a deficiency like having one eye.
Add an afro hairdo and large round spectacles and that person will look like a Golliwog. You wouldn't call Barack Obama a golliwog, because he doesn't look like one. Therefore it is not a racist term, per se.
Neither Thatcher nor Clarkson are unintelligent.
people weren't bought and sold as slaves for having one eye, they weren't persecuted and denied rights - so its not the same thing
interesting peoples perspective on things (including me) - a lot of folk were calling for jonathan ross and russell brands heads - a lot of the same people now defending thatcher - so insulting behaviour is really down to whether you like the person or not?
i'll defend JC, JR and RB cos i find them witty and entertaining, whereas CT i can't stand so i call for her head - maybe its the annoying voice, the pompous, odious personality, the air of superiority
- whatever - i'll concede that she is probably not racist - but she contributes nothing as far as i can see - so i'll happily shove her off the airwaves nickbat :y
QuoteQuoteQuotejeremy clarkson called gordon brown "a one-eyed, scottish twit"
apparently - and folk are calling for his head - :(
one-eyed - true
scottish - true
twit - personal opinion
now, if brown was black, and he'd called him a one-eyed, scottish golliwog then he would be - rightly - sacked
thats the difference, when you don't have the intelligence to differentiate between a personal opinion which may or may not be shared by others, and a racist insult
clarkson is intelligent
thatcher is not - and proved it :o
Twisted logic, I'm afraid.
Our Great Leader has one eye and Clarkson pointed that out in the remark. Having one eye means you are physically deficient. It is also obvious in your facial appearance. Clarkson's comment was derogatory, indeed he highlighting a handicap. I am not offended by it, and I don't suppose GB is either. You need a thick skin in politics.
If someone has black skin, it is not a deficiency like having one eye.
Add an afro hairdo and large round spectacles and that person will look like a Golliwog. You wouldn't call Barack Obama a golliwog, because he doesn't look like one. Therefore it is not a racist term, per se.
Neither Thatcher nor Clarkson are unintelligent.
people weren't bought and sold as slaves for having one eye, they weren't persecuted and denied rights - so its not the same thing
interesting peoples perspective on things (including me) - a lot of folk were calling for jonathan ross and russell brands heads - a lot of the same people now defending thatcher - so insulting behaviour is really down to whether you like the person or not?
i'll defend JC, JR and RB cos i find them witty and entertaining, whereas CT i can't stand so i call for her head - maybe its the annoying voice, the pompous, odious personality, the air of superiority
- whatever - i'll concede that she is probably not racist - but she contributes nothing as far as i can see - so i'll happily shove her off the airwaves nickbat :y
I was using the present tense, Bannjaax. I think that to imply that being black is a deficiency in this day and age is insulting and patronising. Thus, to call someone black should not be a racist insult. By extrapolation, calling someone a golliwog is merely pulling their leg, primarily about their hairstyle. Thus, it is not racist.
There is an important issue here concerning Ross et al. Their comments were broadcast, and were intended to be broadcast. Thatcher's comments were in private, and should have stayed that way. If anyone on here says that they have never said anything in private that would embarrass them if made public, I would call them a liar. Plain and simple.
Thus, the sanctions on Ross and Co. were justified. The sanction on Thatcher, which appears to be harsher, is not.