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Title: Concorde?
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 17 February 2009, 23:31:30

Just having a flick round the net.

Found this pic, no story with it as people were asking the same as I am at the moment.

Dont even know how long ago it was taken.  Any one know what happened to this and other Concordes in the end.?

(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk106/skruntie/Engineering/Concorde.jpg)

Title: Re: Concorde?
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 17 February 2009, 23:33:18

What a fantastic areoplane that was should never have been taken out :(

Would have loved to have done the Breakfast in America thing...

Title: Re: Concorde?
Post by: hotel21 on 17 February 2009, 23:33:30

That pic was taken in New York, dunno when.

One Concorde is up here....

http://www.nms.ac.uk/museumofflighthomepage.aspx

A good day out, if in the area....    :y

Title: Re: Concorde?
Post by: hotel21 on 17 February 2009, 23:35:28

Aircraft carrier is the USS Intrepid....

http://www.intrepidmuseum.org/

They have concorde as well...

http://www.intrepidmuseum.org/getdoc/f7b4fafc-0295-40fe-94c2-50fa47d77106/The-Concorde.aspx

Title: Re: Concorde?
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 17 February 2009, 23:36:08

Cheers  :y :y

Title: Re: Concorde?
Post by: mantagte on 17 February 2009, 23:36:58

one concord is here

http://duxford.iwm.org.uk/server/show/ConWebDoc.1207

great day out

Title: Re: Concorde?
Post by: Kevin Wood on 17 February 2009, 23:42:13

Everything you might want to know is here:

http://www.concordesst.com/

BA ensured they all went to places that would maximise their rate of corrosion in case anyone wanted to return them to flight.  >:(

Kevin

Title: Re: Concorde?
Post by: Lazydocker on 17 February 2009, 23:42:58

I think the cheese eating surrender monkeys French have got one too :-/ :-/ :-/

Title: Re: Concorde?
Post by: Olympia5776 on 18 February 2009, 00:14:52

The future's in a museum......... >:(

Title: Re: Concorde?
Post by: HolyCount on 18 February 2009, 10:50:25

AFAIK all the surviving "concordes" are just shells. Ba had them gutted to ensure they could never fly again.

Title: Re: Concorde?
Post by: Lazydocker on 18 February 2009, 11:00:03

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AFAIK all the surviving "concordes" are just shells. Ba had them gutted to ensure they could never fly again.

Should have been forced to sell them to Branson... He was willing to pay for the required upgrades to keep them in the air :y :y :y

Was a sad day for British aviation when "The Bird" stopped flying :( :(

Title: Re: Concorde?
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 18 February 2009, 11:01:11

Seems like a backwards step to me........................in the 70's.............80's  ................90's ......if you had enough money............ you could fly across the Atlantic at  about 1350 MPH..........now in 2009 ....we can only fly at about 600MPH...............How is that progress?.

I know that there are financial and environmental reasons as to why Concorde did not fly again....................but I still think it's a shame. :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/ :y

Title: Re: Concorde?
Post by: Kevin Wood on 18 February 2009, 11:08:07

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Should have been forced to sell them to Branson... He was willing to pay for the required upgrades to keep them in the air :y :y :y

Was a sad day for British aviation when "The Bird" stopped flying :( :(

In reality it would never have been possible to fly them again without the Airbus consortium either taking on or relinquishing to a third party the design responsibility for the aircraft type. I suspect it has enough on its' plate with slipping A380 deadlines to worry about an old fossil like Concorde.

I suspect Air France and BA also satisfied themselves that Airbus would keep that door firmly closed.

Kevin

Title: Re: Concorde?
Post by: doog on 18 February 2009, 11:32:06

ok  since this is something close to my heart  i can tell you where the 7 BA concordes are they were registered G-BOAA through to G-BOAF

G-BOAA  is at east fortune airfield  in Edinburgh
G-BOAB On display Airside at Heathrow
G-BOAC (flagship plane) is at Manchester Airport
G-BOAD USS Intrepid in New York
G-BOAE Grantley Adams International Airport, Barbados
G-BOAF Filton Airfiled, Bristol  (they were made here )
G-BOAG Museum of Flight, Seattle

these are the BA planes  there were 3 more Concordes built in the uk
2 were prototypes and one was a pre-production planes

G-BSST   Preserved Royal Naval Air Station Yeovilton, Somerset, England, on behalf of Science Museum

G-AXDN  Imperial War Museum, Duxford

G-BBDG  Brooklands Museum, Weybridge, Surrey

so thats where they all are now (not counting the French ones)
theres loads of info on conc's over at concordesst.com

Doug

Title: Re: Concorde?
Post by: doog on 18 February 2009, 11:38:06

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Should have been forced to sell them to Branson... He was willing to pay for the required upgrades to keep them in the air :y :y :y

Was a sad day for British aviation when "The Bird" stopped flying :( :(

In reality it would never have been possible to fly them again without the Airbus consortium either taking on or relinquishing to a third party the design responsibility for the aircraft type. I suspect it has enough on its' plate with slipping A380 deadlines to worry about an old fossil like Concorde.

I suspect Air France and BA also satisfied themselves that Airbus would keep that door firmly closed.

Kevin

the maintinece contract fees were shared between BA and Air France
France no longerwanted  to run its loss making Concorde Service  in part due to its planned merger with KLM  
BA could not afford to do it on its own and decided to retire its fleet
 there was also the factor that  "airbus" had increased their contract charging significantly.

Doug

Title: Re: Concorde?
Post by: doog on 18 February 2009, 11:41:09

here is a picture  taken over my town on the last  flight of G-BOAF
(http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~dougie/concorde%20over%20alloa.jpg)

Title: Re: Concorde?
Post by: Timbuk on 18 February 2009, 12:03:54

Any one on here ever have the privilege of flying on one ::)

Title: Re: Concorde?
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 18 February 2009, 12:44:13

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Any one on here ever have the privilege of flying on one ::)

Was thinking about asking the same question, I wish I had the privelidge.  My only claim to fame is that I saw it 2 loops at the Finningly air show in the early 70's

Title: Re: Concorde?
Post by: doog on 18 February 2009, 13:16:21

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Any one on here ever have the privilege of flying on one ::)

nope not here couldnt afford it   even tried to win a ticket for one of the last flights


Concorde could not fly all the way at supersonic speeds due to the sonic boom and had to fly at subsonic speeds  over populated areas  except on the last flight in which they gunned it flew  G-BOAD to Boston set a record for the fastest transatlantic flight from east to west, making the trip from London Heathrow in 3 hours, 5 minutes, 34 seconds.

Title: Re: Concorde?
Post by: Timbuk on 18 February 2009, 14:41:23

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Any one on here ever have the privilege of flying on one ::)

nope not here couldnt afford it   even tried to win a ticket for one of the last flights


Concorde could not fly all the way at supersonic speeds due to the sonic boom and had to fly at subsonic speeds  over populated areas  except on the last flight in which they gunned it flew  G-BOAD to Boston set a record for the fastest transatlantic flight from east to west, making the trip from London Heathrow in 3 hours, 5 minutes, 34 seconds.

Me neither :( but my jammy git of a brother won a flight on one many moons ago

Title: Re: Concorde?
Post by: Andy B on 18 February 2009, 15:24:51

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Aircraft carrier is the USS Intrepid....

http://www.intrepidmuseum.org/

 .......

Just a bit bigger than our HMS Insipid was then!  ::) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Intrepid_(L11)

Title: Re: Concorde?
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 18 February 2009, 15:35:26

Looks to be in a better state than the Uk one to !

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1126951/Farewell-warrior-Falklands-veteran-broken-claim-piece-eBay.html

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/01/23/article-1126951-0327660C000005DC-914_468x265.jpg)

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/01/23/article-1126951-03276625000005DC-898_468x698.jpg)

Title: Re: Concorde?
Post by: Kevin Wood on 18 February 2009, 15:54:57

If anyone's interested in the Concorde story I can recommend this book:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Supersonic-Secrets-Unofficial-Biography-Concorde/dp/0954661702

Some very interesting insight, especially into the events leading up to them retiring from service and the reasons for it (including Air France very nearly losing a second Concorde to pilot error following their return to service after the Paris crash).

Kevin

Title: Re: Concorde?
Post by: LaserLance on 18 February 2009, 16:24:08

If i remember right theres a french concorde in a little museum (parking lot) with some other planes just outside Orly airport Paris,thought it would be better up a  Le Bourgeut at the aerospace museum ,but there might be one in there as well

Title: Re: Concorde?
Post by: Kevin Wood on 18 February 2009, 17:13:36

I suspect we won't see engineering like that again. Not in this country at least. :(

A mate of mine once confessed that he let out a "break me" under his breath at the start of the ground run when he flew on Concorde. This from a guy who spent the early part of his life flying Vampires and other jets of that era.

A couple of times I was tempted to squander my savings on a Concorde trip but dismissed the idea as a pointless extravagence. Something I'll probably always regret not indulging in.  :'( Funny how things look different in hindsight.

I have great memories of staring up those afterburners at the Farnborough air show, though, and of "that noise" at 7:15pm every evening as she routed out over Camberley.

Kevin

Title: Re: Concorde?
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 18 February 2009, 17:32:59

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ok  since this is something close to my heart  i can tell you where the 7 BA concordes are they were registered G-BOAA through to G-BOAF

G-BOAA  is at east fortune airfield  in Edinburgh
G-BOAB On display Airside at Heathrow
G-BOAC (flagship plane) is at Manchester Airport
G-BOAD USS Intrepid in New York
G-BOAE Grantley Adams International Airport, Barbados
G-BOAF Filton Airfiled, Bristol  (they were made here )
G-BOAG Museum of Flight, Seattle

these are the BA planes  there were 3 more Concordes built in the uk
2 were prototypes and one was a pre-production planes

G-BSST   Preserved Royal Naval Air Station Yeovilton, Somerset, England, on behalf of Science Museum

G-AXDN  Imperial War Museum, Duxford

G-BBDG  Brooklands Museum, Weybridge, Surrey

so thats where they all are now (not counting the French ones)
theres loads of info on conc's over at concordesst.com

Doug

With the wings built at the then Weybridge, Brooklands, factory in Surrey, which I saw on a school trip in 1968.  We also met the famous Barnes Wallace who still 'hovered' around the plant. 8-) 8-) 8-)  He had actually come up with the original concept of a supersonic airliner, which he had a great model of, on which Concorde was based on 8-) 8-).

Title: Re: Concorde?
Post by: Jay w on 18 February 2009, 17:50:16

we used to live alongside the runway at Filton in the 80's and 90's.

Concorde used to come in for servicing on a regular basis and then take off again for London on an evening.....

We would know it was her as the double glazed windows rattled like mad, she used to lift off and with the sun setting behind her it was a sight to behold, never to be repeated  :'(

i would have loved to have travelled on her, but alas it was not meant to be :'(

Title: Re: Concorde?
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 18 February 2009, 17:52:26

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Any one on here ever have the privilege of flying on one ::)

nope not here couldnt afford it   even tried to win a ticket for one of the last flights


Concorde could not fly all the way at supersonic speeds due to the sonic boom and had to fly at subsonic speeds  over populated areas  except on the last flight in which they gunned it flew  G-BOAD to Boston set a record for the fastest transatlantic flight from east to west, making the trip from London Heathrow in 3 hours, 5 minutes, 34 seconds.

Great plane...

sad story..

never had any chance to fly with one of those..and no chance from now on :(

but airbus compared to concorde,  is slow as a turtle ..meaningless..

Title: Re: Concorde?
Post by: doog on 18 February 2009, 19:25:58

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ok  since this is something close to my heart  i can tell you where the 7 BA concordes are they were registered G-BOAA through to G-BOAF

G-BOAA  is at east fortune airfield  in Edinburgh
G-BOAB On display Airside at Heathrow
G-BOAC (flagship plane) is at Manchester Airport
G-BOAD USS Intrepid in New York
G-BOAE Grantley Adams International Airport, Barbados
G-BOAF Filton Airfiled, Bristol  (they were made here )
G-BOAG Museum of Flight, Seattle

these are the BA planes  there were 3 more Concordes built in the uk
2 were prototypes and one was a pre-production planes

G-BSST   Preserved Royal Naval Air Station Yeovilton, Somerset, England, on behalf of Science Museum

G-AXDN  Imperial War Museum, Duxford

G-BBDG  Brooklands Museum, Weybridge, Surrey

so thats where they all are now (not counting the French ones)
theres loads of info on conc's over at concordesst.com

Doug

With the wings built at the then Weybridge, Brooklands, factory in Surrey, which I saw on a school trip in 1968.  We also met the famous Barnes Wallace who still 'hovered' around the plant. 8-) 8-) 8-)  He had actually come up with the original concept of a supersonic airliner, which he had a great model of, on which Concorde was based on 8-) 8-).

yes Lizzie you are correct  the wings were built at brooklands  what i should have said  was assembly was at Filton

Doug