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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Martin_1962 on 07 March 2009, 19:53:25
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OK I am trying to set up ultra short email address - using a domain I own.
I can receive as this address but cannot send - via googlemail - not tried OOFMail.
What I want is one of these mail handlers to handle outgoing of these ultra short addresses.
BTW firstname@lastname.me.uk
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thats not short, try my short spam account, tunnie@tunnie.mobi ;)
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thats not short, try my short spam account, tunnie@tunnie.mobi ;)
Same length as mine but Sues is shorter ;D
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assuming it is a pop mail server then you should have
pop.lastname.me.uk
smtp.lastname.me.uk
as your incoming and outgoing settings :y
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assuming it is a pop mail server then you should have
pop.lastname.me.uk
smtp.lastname.me.uk
as your incoming and outgoing settings :y
Nothing like that
this domain has email forwarding (works) Gogolemail supports alternate email addresses in webmail - just want to transfer to OE if possible
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Right.
Most SMTP relays that are used for outgoing mail need to be able to prove that you are allowed to use it. It may do this by IP range or via domain name in the from: or reply-to: fields. It may alternatively ask you to authenticated to the relay first (see rfc for SMTP-AUTH).
Thats only half the story.
The final smtp server in the chain - your recipient's one - will also usually do some processing to check that the relay sending it the mail is a valid outgoing smtp server for the domain specified in from: field.
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One of my email accounts will only send through its SMTP server if i'm connected via them (ISP) - it's an old Dialup account i keep live for emergencies. All other times, i have to send it through a.n.other SMTP server and it still works..
I have an address (from my own domain) forwarded to a Gmail addy; i just send it through the Gmail account with a different "Replyto" address inserted.
..or am i on the worng track here? As i understood it, email forwarding only works for incoming mail..
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One of my email accounts will only send through its SMTP server if i'm connected via them (ISP) - it's an old Dialup account i keep live for emergencies. All other times, i have to send it through a.n.other SMTP server and it still works..
I have an address (from my own domain) forwarded to a Gmail addy; i just send it through the Gmail account with a different "Replyto" address inserted.
..or am i on the worng track here? As i understood it, email forwarding only works for incoming mail..
In the case of Gmail, the email will leave gmails system, but the recipient's mail server may well drop it as spam, as the sending relay is not authorised to send mail for the sender's domain.
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One of my email accounts will only send through its SMTP server if i'm connected via them (ISP) - it's an old Dialup account i keep live for emergencies. All other times, i have to send it through a.n.other SMTP server and it still works..
I have an address (from my own domain) forwarded to a Gmail addy; i just send it through the Gmail account with a different "Replyto" address inserted.
..or am i on the worng track here? As i understood it, email forwarding only works for incoming mail..
In the case of Gmail, the email will leave gmails system, but the recipient's mail server may well drop it as spam, as the sending relay is not authorised to send mail for the sender's domain.
Yes, I find that happens to me: I monitor/reply-to my friend`s business-domain related e.mails (on his behalf) from home.
Previously, I used my Gmail.....and, although I had also set up my Gmail to 'send-as' using his address; often, those mails did not arrive as they were treated as spam.
In the end; it was more reliable to set up a POP3 client-account for his email address within my Outlook Express and arrange to automatically forward copies of all of his downloaded/answered POP3/SMTP mail to his private e.mail account. (for his records).
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Think i might not have explained myself - my emails come in via my forwarded email to my gmail account. I send them straight from my gmail account, but set the "ReplyTo" to my forwarding addy. They still come directly from my gmail though (and show as that).
Granted - a POP3 account is the best way to do it. I have the two domains (same one, but one is .com, the other.co.uk - long story) and just haven't bothered to change the forwarding one to a proper POP3 account. Should do really - but have never had a lost email (to my knowledge).
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Think i might not have explained myself - my emails come in via my forwarded email to my gmail account. I send them straight from my gmail account, but set the "ReplyTo" to my forwarding addy. They still come directly from my gmail though (and show as that).
Granted - a POP3 account is the best way to do it. I have the two domains (same one, but one is .com, the other.co.uk - long story) and just haven't bothered to change the forwarding one to a proper POP3 account. Should do really - but have never had a lost email (to my knowledge).
A lot of spam filters will still reject mails you send, as the checks against your domain do not authorise the smtp server to send on your behalf.
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is there a translator to simple English for this post? I've read & haven't even understood the question ....... :-?
:y :y :y :y :y
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is there a translator to simple English for this post? I've read & haven't even understood the question ....... :-?
:y :y :y :y :y
Send an email, but sometimes it no workio....
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is there a translator to simple English for this post? I've read & haven't even understood the question ....... :-?
:y :y :y :y :y
Send an email, but sometimes it no workio....
Why didn't he say that in the first place? ;D ;D ;D ;D :y
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Think i might not have explained myself - my emails come in via my forwarded email to my gmail account. I send them straight from my gmail account, but set the "ReplyTo" to my forwarding addy. They still come directly from my gmail though (and show as that).
Granted - a POP3 account is the best way to do it. I have the two domains (same one, but one is .com, the other.co.uk - long story) and just haven't bothered to change the forwarding one to a proper POP3 account. Should do really - but have never had a lost email (to my knowledge).
A lot of spam filters will still reject mails you send, as the checks against your domain do not authorise the smtp server to send on your behalf.
Sorry, being a bit dense here....presumably this is for only sending mail from web based email servers.
As you prob remember I have a couple of domains.....send all the emails via tiscali's mail servers (my isp) but just select who the mail goes out as......i never use my tiscali email addy....never seem to have a prob....replies get sent to my domains and then forwared to my tiscali email account. Or in the case of one account (its a web based account) Outlook logs into the account and picks up the replies
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Think i might not have explained myself - my emails come in via my forwarded email to my gmail account. I send them straight from my gmail account, but set the "ReplyTo" to my forwarding addy. They still come directly from my gmail though (and show as that).
Granted - a POP3 account is the best way to do it. I have the two domains (same one, but one is .com, the other.co.uk - long story) and just haven't bothered to change the forwarding one to a proper POP3 account. Should do really - but have never had a lost email (to my knowledge).
A lot of spam filters will still reject mails you send, as the checks against your domain do not authorise the smtp server to send on your behalf.
Thats exactly it - i don't send the mails from my .com incoming-gets-forwarded address, but direct from my gmail account. I have just set the "Reply To" (not the From) address to my .com address. Depending on the email client used at the other end, it may or may not be sent to my forwarding address first.
Wires got crossed (or not forwarded correctly ;D) here, TB?
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Think i might not have explained myself - my emails come in via my forwarded email to my gmail account. I send them straight from my gmail account, but set the "ReplyTo" to my forwarding addy. They still come directly from my gmail though (and show as that).
Granted - a POP3 account is the best way to do it. I have the two domains (same one, but one is .com, the other.co.uk - long story) and just haven't bothered to change the forwarding one to a proper POP3 account. Should do really - but have never had a lost email (to my knowledge).
A lot of spam filters will still reject mails you send, as the checks against your domain do not authorise the smtp server to send on your behalf.
Thats exactly it - i don't send the mails from my .com incoming-gets-forwarded address, but direct from my gmail account. I have just set the "Reply To" (not the From) address to my .com address. Depending on the email client used at the other end, it may or may not be sent to my forwarding address first.
Wires got crossed (or not forwarded correctly ;D) here, TB?
Some smtp relays nuke a msg based on FROM:, some nuke based on REPLY-TO:, some even nuke if they are different.
As the spammers get more intelligent - there is a huge amount of money in spam - the mail server operators have to introduce new ways to prevent it, so no hard and fast rules.
Generally, the sending relay's IP needs to resolve in (r)DNS, and needs to be mentioned in the SPF record for the domain specified in FROM: or REPLY-TO: (or both) to make it passed the first stage of the relay (at can be subsequently nuked by other UCE filters beyond that, eg Black/Whitelists, content analysis etc)
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I think the Russian Mafia anti-spam technique is best