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Title: Latest tyres - See through tyres
Post by: willyboy on 06 March 2009, 23:37:53
CHECK OUT THESE TYRES!

These tyres are made in South Carolina , USA .
  
SEE THROUGH TYRES
Radical new tyre design by Michelin.
The next generation of tyres.
They had a pair at the Philadelphia car show.
(http://homepage.ntlworld.com/will.wombat/tyres%201.jpg)
Yes, those are 'spoke' like connections to the inner part of the tyre from the outside tread 'wrap!' The next picture shows how odd it looks in motion....
(http://homepage.ntlworld.com/will.wombat/tyre%20pic%202.jpg)
(http://homepage.ntlworld.com/will.wombat/tyre%20pic%203.jpg)
(http://homepage.ntlworld.com/will.wombat/tyre%20pic%204.jpg)
These tyres are airless and are scheduled to be out on the market very soon.
The bad news for law enforcement is that spike strips will not work on these.
Just think of the impact on existing technology:
A. no more air valves...
B. no more air compressors at gas stations...
C. no more repair kits...
D. no more flats...
These are actual pictures taken in the South  Carolina plant of Michelin.
Title: Re: Latest tyres - See through tyres
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 06 March 2009, 23:43:23
yep..seen those..interesting , brilliant,useful and ugly..
Title: Re: Latest tyres - See through tyres
Post by: Entwood on 06 March 2009, 23:46:17
IIRC there were some serious problems with these originally due to the "spokes" breaking up through fatigue after not very high mileages...  :(

Novel idea and it may well work ... eventually ...  :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/
Title: Re: Latest tyres - See through tyres
Post by: immx on 06 March 2009, 23:47:09
 :o :o They look MAD!!! I'm not sure Id trust them, I don't know why, They are just a bit too freeky for me!!!!  :-/
Title: Re: Latest tyres - See through tyres
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 06 March 2009, 23:48:35
I think they will cost less than the conventional tires as not much expensive rubber required..
Title: Re: Latest tyres - See through tyres
Post by: tmx on 07 March 2009, 00:12:10
the MV6 will be getting treated to these then when they come out they look immense cant wait i wont have to bother with pressures no more! :y
Title: Re: Latest tyres - See through tyres
Post by: Entwood on 07 March 2009, 00:21:44
I believe that the "lack" of pressure is one of the problems ... :(

Tyre pressure on conventional tyres is mainly to support the sidewalls and give "strength" to the tyre, which is why tyre pressures should be increased for high loads or high speed cruising, as both these lead to higher sidewall temperatures, more flexing (which increases the temperature more) and so weakens the walls. Increasing the tyre pressure prevents this flexing.

These "new" tyres have no way of compensating for higher loads or speeds, so will either have to operate within narrower bands, or they will have to find another way around the problem.

I don't think these will be on the market for a few years yet.
Title: Re: Latest tyres - See through tyres
Post by: HolyCount on 07 March 2009, 09:07:31
Don't like them at all -- not the look, nor the principle (old dinosaur here !).  Maybe a combination of a pressurised tyre with internal "spokes" could work ---- the spokes coming in to play when there is a potential deflation. In the words of the Great Prophet .....  Dunno   :-?
Title: Re: Latest tyres - See through tyres
Post by: webby23 on 07 March 2009, 09:11:12
Jeez they are shockingly ugly and I am no engineer but would seriously doubt their longterm integrity especially when cornering HARD for prolonged periods........they just dont look safe at all to me......!!!
Title: Re: Latest tyres - See through tyres
Post by: Welung666 on 07 March 2009, 09:13:20
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Don't like them at all -- not the look, nor the principle (old dinosaur here !).  Maybe a combination of a pressurised tyre with internal "spokes" could work ---- the spokes coming in to play when there is a potential deflation. In the words of the Great Prophet .....  Dunno   :-?

I'm with you there HC 100% :y
Title: Re: Latest tyres - See through tyres
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 07 March 2009, 09:47:36
I think if they started to use them for road use they would cause accidents, simply by other motorists focusing on them wondering WTF they were.

Title: Re: Latest tyres - See through tyres
Post by: Pete Elite on 07 March 2009, 16:10:01
If these tyres have no sides then what stops them becoming full of mud, stones, rocks or anything for that matter :o in which case the balance would be seriously thrown out and not only that they would be projecting all sorts of stuff everywhere!!! :o :o :o.
Title: Re: Latest tyres - See through tyres
Post by: Kieran on 07 March 2009, 21:27:14
What if you also say, need to tow something, when tyre pressures have to be increased for the situation then decreased back to their original pressure for normal use. :-?
Title: Re: Latest tyres - See through tyres
Post by: waspy on 07 March 2009, 21:33:22
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If these tyres have no sides then what stops them becoming full of mud, stones, rocks or anything for that matter :o in which case the balance would be seriously thrown out and not only that they would be projecting all sorts of stuff everywhere!!! :o :o :o.

I would have thought these where for illustration purposes & when/if they go on sale they'd have a side wall, just for the above reasons.
Title: Re: Latest tyres - See through tyres
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 07 March 2009, 21:47:53
I think engineers will find solutions to most of those problems..

the reason why they have that job.. ;)
Title: Re: Latest tyres - See through tyres
Post by: nick v6 on 07 March 2009, 22:23:27
if you look at the last pic
the driver has dog legged the back wheel
so they must be strong tyres
Title: Re: Latest tyres - See through tyres
Post by: philhoward on 07 March 2009, 23:08:43
These tyres do "the rounds" every few years - when everyone has forgotten about them.

There are a few issues to get round first, though - they're actually impossible to fit (or were) and have to be cast onto the rim (think solid tyres for fork lifts.

If they're cheaper to make but only last a few hundred miles, then they'll be the new "spacesaver" spare.  It'll take some beating though -the cost price of a spacesaver wheel and tyre assembly was just over £20 last time i checked..
Title: Re: Latest tyres - See through tyres
Post by: DC on 08 March 2009, 21:05:48
I have read somewhere that it has been established they are actually made for NASA for space vehicles - they are not intended for cars - nor for this planet
Title: Re: Latest tyres - See through tyres
Post by: Turk on 08 March 2009, 21:12:44
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These tyres do "the rounds" every few years - when everyone has forgotten about them.

There are a few issues to get round first, though - they're actually impossible to fit (or were) and have to be cast onto the rim (think solid tyres for fork lifts.

If they're cheaper to make but only last a few hundred miles, then they'll be the new "spacesaver" spare.  It'll take some beating though -the cost price of a spacesaver wheel and tyre assembly was just over £20 last time i checked..



Yep, saw them quite a few years ago.
Title: Re: Latest tyres - See through tyres
Post by: SteveMJ on 10 March 2009, 13:40:46
I recall seeing these in about 2001 - never heard any more: until seeing this.

What's been happening in this development over that 8 years?
Title: Re: Latest tyres - See through tyres
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 10 March 2009, 16:02:58
I do not like, or would trust them! ::) ::) ::)  I would like to see how these work in heavy rain, on flooded roads; paddle ships comes to mind! ::) ::) ;D ;D ;)
Title: Re: Latest tyres - See through tyres
Post by: nick v6 on 10 March 2009, 16:05:37
some boy racer would go and find a way of putting led's in the tyre
Title: Re: Latest tyres - See through tyres
Post by: STMO123 on 10 March 2009, 17:16:21
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If these tyres have no sides then what stops them becoming full of mud, stones, rocks or anything for that matter :o in which case the balance would be seriously thrown out and not only that they would be projecting all sorts of stuff everywhere!!! :o :o :o.

That is an excellent point (it must be, I was about to make it ::))

I dont think these are a serious option for a car. Moon buggy maybe.
Title: Re: Latest tyres - See through tyres
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 10 March 2009, 17:26:18
Centrifugal forces wont let stones or other materials stay..

Only some tiny sticky mud can stay , may be..  That you can wash :D

Title: Re: Latest tyres - See through tyres
Post by: Omegadoha, Desert Member on 10 March 2009, 17:30:19
They look like bike wheels. Anyway it would mean the end for tyre shine products.  :(
Title: Re: Latest tyres - See through tyres
Post by: STMO123 on 10 March 2009, 17:32:00
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They look like bike wheels. Anyway it would mean the end for tyre shine products.  :(

And no stones in the desert :y
Title: Re: Latest tyres - See through tyres
Post by: Burtle on 10 March 2009, 18:37:19
I wonder if it would stop next doors dog p1ssing on my wheels.

When will they do the remold version of this too.   ;D
Title: Re: Latest tyres - See through tyres
Post by: Proz on 10 March 2009, 18:38:24
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some boy racer would go and find a way of putting led's in the tyre


 ;D ;D ;D :y
Title: Re: Latest tyres - See through tyres
Post by: amigov6 on 10 March 2009, 18:47:20
Good job they're not real. I don't even like too lower profile tyres, they look gay.
  Wheels should have some rubber round them same as certain other things we like have some h**r round them!!!

  Maybe i'm a luddite but i like things as they should be!!!!! 8-)
    
Title: Re: Latest tyres - See through tyres
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 10 March 2009, 20:21:09
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some boy racer would go and find a way of putting led's in the tyre

yep.. I can bet on this.. Within 1 week there'll be many cars around with flashing leds in tires ;D
Title: Re: Latest tyres - See through tyres
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 10 March 2009, 20:22:20
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Good job they're not real. I don't even like too lower profile tyres, they look gay.
  Wheels should have some rubber round them same as certain other things we like have some h**r round them!!!

  Maybe i'm a luddite but i like things as they should be!!!!! 8-)
    

traditional habits  ;D :y
Title: Re: Latest tyres - See through tyres
Post by: Del Boy on 10 March 2009, 20:32:27
Very odd and horrible but cool none the less.
Title: Re: Latest tyres - See through tyres
Post by: cam2502 on 10 March 2009, 21:52:08
wouldnt have them on my mig,they look bloody awful!
Title: Re: Latest tyres - See through tyres
Post by: John Lewis on 10 March 2009, 23:31:59
Some serious alloy dings with those bad boys, would be like a flintstone car in a few weeks getting up the kerb outside mine! lol