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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: nick v6 on 17 March 2009, 09:16:25
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just took the daughter to school this morning and all the way there i had this cop car follow me so i stuck to the speed limit so he had no excuse to pull me
he started to get really close to the back end of my car trying to push me but i was not having any of it so i just stuck to the speed limit
up ahead i saw a dog come running out of a house and stopped at the bottom of the drive till i got close and it ran straight in front of me
so i hit the brakes hard as not to hit the dog
as i looked in my mirror to make sure the copper had stopped i noticed he was up the kerb
then on went the blue lights and out he got
he came to my drivers door and opened it and told me really nasty to get out the car
i was just getting redy for a punch up as that was the felling he gave me
he grabbed my arm and took me to the cop car that had a flat front tyre from hitting the kerb
and he started to shout at me saying i caused that and that he was going to arrest me for dangerous driving
i got mad and gave him a round full of f's
from there he called for a breakdown truck and extra assitance which came within minutes
i was still having an argument with the copper when his back up arrived
another copper took me to his car and said right carm down and tell me everything that happened
so i told him i was doing the right speed for the road while the copper was stuck right behind me whena dog came running out of a house and straight in front of me resulting in me hitting the brakes as not to hit the dog
he said can anyone witness that that happened i said go and knock the door the dog came from
the copper then said no worrys we can check the video footage from the police car
they also knocked the door of the house the dog came from to confirm the dog got lose
he gave me a warning which i said no i want him to say sorry for his actions and that i want to press charges against him for grabbing my arm resulting in leaving hand print marks on my arm and for him driving way to close to my car
the copper said we need to look at the video footage of the car and take staements from the house's before i can do that
i said look at my arm is that not enough proof
the copper took all my details contact number address etc and said we will be in touch for a written statment from my self
i will give them till this afternoon and if ive herd nothing i will be phoneing the police station
am i in the right to press charges on the police man for grabbing my arm and driving to close or do i just take it off the chin and leave it as that
its made me very angry as i had my 3 kids in the car and would hate to think what would of happened if he did slam into the back of my car
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being an ex-copper, actions like this disgust me. dont let it go
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being an ex-copper, actions like this digust me. dont let it go
i'm not going to mate
if he was not a copper i would of smacked him the second he grabbed my arm
i did at one point try to shake him off my arm thats when he got a tighter grib which caused the hand print marks
thats how tight he grabbed me >:(
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grabbing my arm resulting in leaving hand print marks on my arm
I would go to the nearest police station with his badge number. That is assault even by the Police's own terms. Say you would like to press charges against him, they have to investigate. If they dont get onto the IPCC, all the footage will have been saved as a matter routine including his commentary with his partner. If I were a betting man I would say that it would prove to be very interesting watching.
I am fully supportive of the police in their job, I couldent do it, but when things like this happen I get very upset with them.
Oh and get a photograph of the mark on your arm :y
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grabbing my arm resulting in leaving hand print marks on my arm
I would go to the nearest police station with his badge number. That is assault even by the Police's own terms. Say you would like to press charges against him, they have to investigate. If they dont get onto the IPCC, all the footage will have been saved as a matter routine including his commentary with his partner. If I were a betting man I would say that it would prove to be very interesting watching.
I am fully supportive of the police in their job, I couldent do it, but when things like this happen I get very upset with them.
Oh and get a photograph of the mark on your arm :y
the back up police that was called out looked at my arm and said that they have to view the footage from the police car to prove it was him
i said well if the camera is pointing out the front of the cop car you will see everything from how close he was to maybe even the dog running from the house and even how the copper was holding me while he was pointing to his flat kerb mounted wheel
ive gotta give it to him tho for hitting the kerb instead of my car
but thats the only thing i will praise him up for
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just had a call from the police
they will be coming out to take a statement from me
they should be here about 12ish
they are also bringing the police officer in question
i said thats fine but i'm holding my guard
i know what happened and i'm leeting that go
that was assult and i want something done about that
and they said we will discuss that when we come to take a statement
i can see whats gonna happen here
they will come out to protect the police officers job
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just had a call from the police
they will be coming out to take a statement from me
they should be here about 12ish
they are also bringing the police officer in question
i said thats fine but i'm holding my guard
i know what happened and i'm leeting that go
that was assult and i want something done about that
and they said we will discuss that when we come to take a statement
i can see whats gonna happen here
they will come out to protect the police officers job
If you are making a complaint about an officer I think its a good idea that you phone them up and tell them you do not want him anywhere near you mate. They will have some story ready for you to make sure that you do not take the complaint any further, believe me.
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give them hell its about time someone stood up against the minority of idiots in uniform
and ask/demand a copy of the tape
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if i were you mate id record this meeting by hiding a camcorder somewhere, would be also beneficial for you to have a witness to this meeting as is your right, believe me they will try & turn it around, ive had bad experiences with the police, when i was in hemel they had it in for me due to my customised wheels, once they towed my car in one night just because it was in a rugby club car park, when i went to pick it up from the station somebody had tightened down some of the valves on the engine, of course nobody knew who done it >:(
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just had a call from the police
they will be coming out to take a statement from me
they should be here about 12ish
they are also bringing the police officer in question
i said thats fine but i'm holding my guard
i know what happened and i'm leeting that go
that was assult and i want something done about that
and they said we will discuss that when we come to take a statement
i can see whats gonna happen here
they will come out to protect the police officers job
If you are making a complaint about an officer I think its a good idea that you phone them up and tell them you do not want him anywhere near you mate. They will have some story ready for you to make sure that you do not take the complaint any further, believe me.
i will be taking it further
in one way i'm glad that he will be coming so i can see the look on his face when i say i want to press charges for assult
i might even set my webcam on the laptop to record the whole lot
so any bribery can be used for evidence against him
i'm going to make sure i'm one step ahead of them all the time
is there anything i should be prepered for aprt from the fact they will be coming out to protect the coppers job
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put the frighteners up them, demand a copy of the footage from his plod car as i believe you have a right as its evidence, i would also b/s them saying that you have an appointment with a solicitor, it might have been an idea to get to your doctors so he could verify the marks on your arm......good luck mate :y
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An independant witness definately, a friend, relative, someone you can trust who isnt going to back down later...
As for filming or taping, be careful, this is another grey area of the law of beloved UK...
Taping conversations, or filming, is an offence if the subjects have not been informed or asked...Apparently, if they consent to it then no offence is committed...
Not criticising, but only thinking of your situation...
As someone else siad, get photos of your arm, even if only with a phone camera...
:) :y :y
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An independant witness definately, a friend, relative, someone you can trust who isnt going to back down later...
As for filming or taping, be careful, this is another grey area of the law of beloved UK...
Taping conversations, or filming, is an offence if the subjects have not been informed or asked...Apparently, if they consent to it then no offence is committed...
Not criticising, but only thinking of your situation...
As someone else siad, get photos of your arm, even if only with a phone camera...
:) :y :y
i get photo's of my arm and i have even got time to pop up the docs before they come
for me to record the coversation if they are coming out to protect the copers job they will say no straight away to me recording the conversation
i might give my mother a ring to come over to be witness
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Good luck Nick! I hate it when you get ones like that it makes you not want to trust any coppers again good luck and dont let it go.
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Good luck Nick! I hate it when you get ones like that it makes you not want to trust any coppers again good luck and dont let it go.
not gonna mate
im so angry about them its unreal cause i know straight they will be oming out to try and bribe me
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Good luck Nick! I hate it when you get ones like that it makes you not want to trust any coppers again good luck and dont let it go.
you should pop over
where in wolves are you
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Bringing down the copper you are complaining against can be seen as intimidation. I would request that he does not come. If he is coming to apologise ask for it in writing.
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Bringing down the copper you are complaining against can be seen as intimidation. I would request that he does not come. If he is coming to apologise ask for it in writing.
i want to see the look on his fac when i stick to my guards and tell them i want to press charges
i think the chances of a written apology will be very slim :-/
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well the police have been and gone now
we had a chat and they took a statement
he said sorry for his reaction at the side of the road
he even admitted to driving close seeing me as a young driver in a bug car i would be tempted to put my foot down and race off
i said no chance mate i had my kids in the car plus i'm not risking my liecence
he asked a bout my cameras and went on about 3 disc's being in the office that was watched for drug use but nothing was being done about it
untill now he told me he will personly look into it and get it sorted
he had a look round by where they was doing the drugs at the side of my house took some photo's and a statment for that
again said sorry for his reactions
ive taken this one as a one off
i even told him he was lucky i never smacked him one and he turned round and said that he was half expecting that and that was why he held tighter as for me not to turn round and hit him
a warning was given to the dog owner and no its just a waiting game on if he follows up the drugy stuff
but he has assured me it will be dealt with as he know's who it is and that they have been arrested before for driving under the influence of drugs so this will add to there records and more can be done against them
he has had my mobile number and has gave me his mobile number and told me any problems to ring him direct and he will do the besy he can
fairs fair ive dropped the charges i wanted against him on the condition he sorts the drug stuff out
it was witness by his manager that came to my house with him
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well the police have been and gone now
we had a chat and they took a statement
he said sorry for his reaction at the side of the road
he even admitted to driving close seeing me as a young driver in a bug car i would be tempted to put my foot down and race off
i said no chance mate i had my kids in the car plus i'm not risking my liecence
he asked a bout my cameras and went on about 3 disc's being in the office that was watched for drug use but nothing was being done about it
untill now he told me he will personly look into it and get it sorted
he had a look round by where they was doing the drugs at the side of my house took some photo's and a statment for that
again said sorry for his reactions
ive taken this one as a one off
i even told him he was lucky i never smacked him one and he turned round and said that he was half expecting that and that was why he held tighter as for me not to turn round and hit him
a warning was given to the dog owner and no its just a waiting game on if he follows up the drugy stuff
but he has assured me it will be dealt with as he know's who it is and that they have been arrested before for driving under the influence of drugs so this will add to there records and more can be done against them
he has had my mobile number and has gave me his mobile number and told me any problems to ring him direct and he will do the besy he can
fairs fair ive dropped the charges i wanted against him on the condition he sorts the drug stuff out
it was witness by his manager that came to my house with him
Sounds like youve kept your cool nick and done the best you can.
Probably wise too take the action you have and appear too be the bigger man by not taking action when you could have.... :y
And if it gets your problem sorted at the same time...result. ;)
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the copper just texted me saying an arrest will be made tomorrow along with a raid
he told me to turn my cameras slightly to the left and enjoy the show :y
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the thing i find amazing is they are only now going to deal with the druggies problem to save their arses [or so it seems] with regards to todays incident, oh well as long as you get a result out of it nick i guess thats a bonus :y
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This I would like to see
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the thing i find amazing is they are only now going to deal with the druggies problem to save their arses [or so it seems] with regards to todays incident, oh well as long as you get a result out of it nick i guess thats a bonus :y
I think the problem is they got so much to do, so many problems, they can't deal with them all, they just got to do the best they can. It must be difficult driving the many hours they do without making a mistake. The physical bit was wrong, but he had the decency to admit it, which is good.
Ken
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well the police have been and gone now
we had a chat and they took a statement
he said sorry for his reaction at the side of the road
he even admitted to driving close seeing me as a young driver in a bug car i would be tempted to put my foot down and race off
i said no chance mate i had my kids in the car plus i'm not risking my liecence
he asked a bout my cameras and went on about 3 disc's being in the office that was watched for drug use but nothing was being done about it
untill now he told me he will personly look into it and get it sorted
he had a look round by where they was doing the drugs at the side of my house took some photo's and a statment for that
again said sorry for his reactions
ive taken this one as a one off
i even told him he was lucky i never smacked him one and he turned round and said that he was half expecting that and that was why he held tighter as for me not to turn round and hit him
a warning was given to the dog owner and no its just a waiting game on if he follows up the drugy stuff
but he has assured me it will be dealt with as he know's who it is and that they have been arrested before for driving under the influence of drugs so this will add to there records and more can be done against them
he has had my mobile number and has gave me his mobile number and told me any problems to ring him direct and he will do the besy he can
fairs fair ive dropped the charges i wanted against him on the condition he sorts the drug stuff out
it was witness by his manager that came to my house with him
sounds you had a bad day..good to hear its sorted..
but still I think he is not normal as seeing everyone for crime candidate..need a mental doc :D
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he starting to seem a sound chap
just called to make sure kids are ok as my 2 boys saw him grab me out the car
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Nick,
Definately, it sounds you had a bad day & I am glad its sorted. I always end up making mistakes when cops follow me closely but you were very wise and doing the right speed. It is not worth risking the license.
I would have probably ended up taking a side road and having a chat if I am followed.. Cannot image holding my nerve for too long.
Cheers
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Sorted then Nick, glad your ok and your kids didnt get scared to much :)
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he starting to seem a sound chap
just called to make sure kids are ok as my 2 boys saw him grab me out the car
yep.. his behaviour to you was very wrong especially near the kids.. >:(
Think of the cops image in their mind.. :(
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Well it's good he had the decency to apologise. Also caused them to get their fingers out. Nice one. :y
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Good luck Nick! I hate it when you get ones like that it makes you not want to trust any coppers again good luck and dont let it go.
you should pop over
where in wolves are you
Glad you got it sorted Nick :y I'm just outside Wednesfield. My tag is on the map if you need it.
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You handled it all well Nick. Have to remember coppers are human too ... although no excuse at all, he was probably annoyed at himself more than anything for being so stupid in the first place and tried to cover it up by coming on heavy .... apart from the usual flare up when in a prang.
At least, once he had cooled down and thought about it ( and probably seen the video footage) he came clean and apologised.
We have all flared up at something, sometime and probably felt a tw*t afterwards ( I know I have).
Hopefully the druggie problem will get sorted too -- as they say, "Every cloud has a silver lining" :)
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he starting to seem a sound chap
just called to make sure kids are ok as my 2 boys saw him grab me out the car
He'll be moving in next ;D
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he starting to seem a sound chap
just called to make sure kids are ok as my 2 boys saw him grab me out the car
He'll be moving in next ;D
ill rent the tent out to him
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he starting to seem a sound chap
just called to make sure kids are ok as my 2 boys saw him grab me out the car
He'll be moving in next ;D
He could park the car in it as well !!!!
ill rent the tent out to him
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ill charge extra for parking
he drives a mazda sport 2
;D
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Set romeo and sonny on him.....they`ll batter him.... ;D ;D ;D
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I would like to say that NOT all Coppers are bad
Ive had dealings with quite a few decent ones and a good few that actually looked like they were interested.
that said ive had bad experiances with them too
Doug
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Set romeo and sonny on him.....they`ll batter him.... ;D ;D ;D
not a bad idea that :y
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We all have off days and sadly you have been on the receiving end of his.
Hes had the balls to apologise and admit he was wrong....and if it gets your little druggy issue sorted then all is good :y
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I must note apologizing is ok and a plus for every human but when you are an officer on duty or a judge in a court or a pilot in a war plane I'm afraid the same is not applicable.. :(
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I must note apologizing is ok and a plus for every human but when you are an officer on duty or a judge in a court or a pilot in a war plane I'm afraid the same is not applicable.. :(
I agree, I am not allowed an off-day so why should he?