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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: iggy21uk on 28 July 2008, 13:59:01
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Going to give the Meyle bushes a try one is £5.00 & other is £9.00
+vat and postage. The guy has an order going in two days time
not a stock item for him.
Complete Meyle wishbone £49.00 plus vat, etc
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There is an uprated Meyle bush used on the 5 series BMW's which will fit....
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There is an uprated Meyle bush used on the 5 series BMW's which will fit....
Any ideas of the part number please, the part numbers I have is
614 035 0016 &
614 035 0010
Just found this is this the one .5mm smaller o/d
does that matter
he is putting a order in so got to make my mind up soon
http://www.meyle.com/html/uploads/techtips/ControlArmBushing_BMW_12.04_us.pdf
300 311 2103/HD
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Where do you source these from?
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just ordered front pair wishbones £58 all in from the vaux centre.
http://www.vauxcentre.co.uk/index.php?product_id=485975&option=Prod_detail&image_id=190941
comes with 12 month warranty
sorry for thread hijack :-[
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If 300 311 2103/HD is the correct BMW heavy duty bush its
£9.00 + vat & postage
Source All German parts in Leeds will get phone number
He has an order going in this week, so I need to order today or tomorrow.
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There is an uprated Meyle bush used on the 5 series BMW's which will fit....
Any ideas of the part number please, the part numbers I have is
614 035 0016 &
614 035 0010
Just found this is this the one .5mm smaller o/d
does that matter
he putting a order in so got to make ny mind up soonish
http://www.meyle.com/html/uploads/techtips/ControlArmBushing_BMW_12.04_us.pdf
300 311 2103
Thats the one, fitted an M5 version of that bush in the past so know they fit........
Ow yes, the lemforder wishbones are the same price as teh Merle ones from autovaux
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Mark
are they any good :question
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If anyone is interested i spoke to a guy today who says he can make up Omega wishbone bushes in polyurethane, have sent the dimensions to him just waiting for him to get back to me with prices & manufacture times
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If anyone is interested i spoke to a guy today who says he can make up Omega wishbone bushes in polyurethane, have sent the dimensions to him just waiting for him to get back to me with prices & manufacture times
yes mate i would be !! :y
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Interesting
Does he realise that the polyurethane needs to be bonded to the metal inserts
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He can bond the inserts if we want them said its up to us
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He can bond the inserts if we want them said its up to us
If you look at the setup on the Omega, its the only way it would work.
There are some BMW bonded ones on the net in the USA but, theguy does not respond to emails.
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Right.. Did not manage to get to WIM... bit far :( But I know mine need doing.
Whats the pros and cons of each material, and why?
;)
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Polyurethane is much harder so is likely to make the ride a lot firmer.
I suspect it wont be suitable for the vertical rear bush as this requires quite a degree of flex
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Polyurethane is much harder so is likely to make the ride a lot firmer.
I suspect it wont be suitable for the vertical rear bush as this requires quite a degree of flex
Gotcha! :y :y :y
Well in that case ::) ::) I am intereted too :y
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just ordered front pair wishbones £58 all in from the vaux centre.
http://www.vauxcentre.co.uk/index.php?product_id=485975&option=Prod_detail&image_id=190941
comes with 12 month warranty
sorry for thread hijack :-[
Is the nearside one predrilled for HID level sensor (2 holes)?
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just ordered front pair wishbones £58 all in from the vaux centre.
http://www.vauxcentre.co.uk/index.php?product_id=485975&option=Prod_detail&image_id=190941
comes with 12 month warranty
sorry for thread hijack :-[
Is the nearside one predrilled for HID level sensor (2 holes)?
dbug
i wont know until they arrive tomorrow, i'l let you know then. i would presume so. :-[
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Me going to stick with the rubber goods! ::)
Poly might make the ride to hard harsh ?
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There is an uprated Meyle bush used on the 5 series BMW's which will fit....
Any ideas of the part number please, the part numbers I have is
614 035 0016 &
614 035 0010
Just found this is this the one .5mm smaller o/d
does that matter
he putting a order in so got to make ny mind up soonish
http://www.meyle.com/html/uploads/techtips/ControlArmBushing_BMW_12.04_us.pdf
300 311 2103
Thats the one, fitted an M5 version of that bush in the past so know they fit........
Ow yes, the lemforder wishbones are the same price as teh Merle ones from autovaux
Can we clarify - which are the part numbers (for both bushes) for the heavy duty BMW equivalents?
I am interested if we can sort out which the right ones are.
Cheers,
Ian
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I would be interested in these as well. :y :y
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Polyurethane is much harder so is likely to make the ride a lot firmer.
I suspect it wont be suitable for the vertical rear bush as this requires quite a degree of flex
Depends on the grade used - some can flex a fair way if the softer grades
Gotcha! :y :y :y
Well in that case ::) ::) I am intereted too :y
Depends on the grade used - some can flex a fair way if the softer grades are used...
iggy21uk - its the grade of Poly which determines the harshness. The softer versions are virtually indistinguishable from rubber. Depends on the new vs old grade...Shore is what they use for grading it from memory?
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Polyurethane is much harder so is likely to make the ride a lot firmer.
I suspect it wont be suitable for the vertical rear bush as this requires quite a degree of flex
Depends on the grade used - some can flex a fair way if the softer grades
Gotcha! :y :y :y
Well in that case ::) ::) I am intereted too :y
Depends on the grade used - some can flex a fair way if the softer grades are used...
iggy21uk - its the grade of Poly which determines the harshness. The softer versions are virtually indistinguishable from rubber. Depends on the new vs old grade...Shore is what they use for grading it from memory?
Shore hardness is a measurement of rubbers resilience. Used to be measured with a dial gauge which pressed a pin into a sample of rubber and registered accordingly. IIRC glass is 100 shore (highest possible as it doesn't give).
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There is an uprated Meyle bush used on the 5 series BMW's which will fit....
Any ideas of the part number please, the part numbers I have is
614 035 0016 &
614 035 0010
Just found this is this the one .5mm smaller o/d
does that matter
he putting a order in so got to make ny mind up soonish
http://www.meyle.com/html/uploads/techtips/ControlArmBushing_BMW_12.04_us.pdf
300 311 2103
Thats the one, fitted an M5 version of that bush in the past so know they fit........
Ow yes, the lemforder wishbones are the same price as teh Merle ones from autovaux
Can we clarify - which are the part numbers (for both bushes) for the heavy duty BMW equivalents?
I am interested if we can sort out which the right ones are.
Cheers,
Ian
[size=11]As I understand it, what I'am going for made by Meyle
VX vertical bush, BMW HD horizontal bush :[/size]
[size=14]Meyle Omega vertical bush:[/size]
Front axle, left and right
Rear
Lower
Outer Ø 48,5 mm
614 035 0010
Control arm bushing
Omega B Stufenh./Sedan
03.1994 - 07.2003
except: 2.5 D
Omega B Caravan / Wagon
03.1994 - 07.2003
except: 2.6
Price each : £ 5.00 + vat & pp.
[size=14]Omega Meyle Horizontal bush:[/size]
Front axle, left and right
[size=10]Outer Ø 58,5 mm
614 035 0016
Control arm bushing
Omega B Stufenh./Sedan
03.1994 - 07.2003
except: 2.5 D
Omega B Caravan / Wagon
03.1994 - 07.2003
except: 2.6
Price £9.00 + vat & pp[/size]
[size=14]BMW 5 Series that fit but Heavy Duty Version
.5mm less o/d.[/size]
[size=10]Heavy duty version
Front axle, left and right
Outer Ø 58,0 mm
300 311 2103/HD
£9.00 + vat + pp
BMW Heavy duty version that fits
Front axle, left and right
Rear
Lower
Outer Ø 58,0 mm
300 311 2103/HD
Control arm bushing
Limousine (E34)
01.1988 - 11.1995
520 i 24V, 525 i, 525 i 24V
5 Touring (E34)
11.1991 - 01.1997
525 i
7 (E32)
09.1986 - 09.1994
8 (E31)
04.1990 - 12.1999
Limousine (E34)
01.1988 - 11.1995
520 i 24V, 525 i, 525 i 24V
5 Touring (E34)
11.1991 - 01.1997
525 i
7 (E32)
09.1986 - 09.1994
8 (E31)
04.1990 - 12.1999[/size]
Don't think VX bushes stock item, order going in this week.
BMW parts maybe?
[size=12]Disclaimer:
This is what I have opted for, please don't blame me if you go the same route and it does not work out.[/size]
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Do you have a UK supplier for those bushes, iggy21uk?
Kevin
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So you're going for
614 035 0010
300 311 2103/HD ?
Sounds like several of us would be interested - would they be up for a volume deal, free postage or something?
I would go for 4 of each.
Cheers
Ian
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I'd be up for a set. :y
Kevin
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UK supplier All German Parts, Leeds.
Jason 01132 775245
Order going in 1400 today
Don't know when he will be putting another order in?
Bit confused not sure I you want me to order , thats ok I will
or who wants the poly bushes at the beginning of the thread
Think you best send a PM if want me to order of Meyle bushes
And which ones you want.
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Iggy, check your BMW bushes, make sure that the centre hole is concentric with the outer diameter.
I went down the same path as you a while back, comparing Lemforder, Meyle and GM partnumbers and plumped for a 750iL bush which fitted but had a slight offset. Handling was much sharper but tyres wore on inner edge even though camber was correct. I dont know if the offset is on all BMW bushes or just the one I chose.
When fitting the new bush ignore any alignment or 'thrust' markings...on the BM the bush is behind the axle so takes brake forces as a 'push' whereas the Omega has the bush ahead of the axle so brake forces are 'pulling'. Just make sure they fit in the same orientation as the originals.
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UK supplier All German Parts, Leeds.
Jason 01132 775245
Order going in 1400 today
Don't know when he will be putting another order in?
Bit confused not sure I you want me to order , thats ok I will
or who wants the poly bushes at the beginning of the thread
Think you best send a PM if want me to order of Meyle bushes
And which ones you want.
Hi Iggy,
Don't want to put you to extra effort, but is it possible to check what Matchless says? If that is correct, or their is risk, I will probably go for the regular ones.
Is that his order that is going in at 1400, or yours to him?
Sounds like you (set of 4?), me (2 sets of 4), Kevin (1 set) and maybe Scruntie would be interested.
Cheers
Ian
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Thanks Matchless
Think it's off centre
BMW HD bush
(http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n21/iggy21_2006/general/103286.jpg)
Meyle Omega bush
(http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n21/iggy21_2006/general/106278.jpg)
My order to him
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Thanks Matchless
Think it's off centre
(http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n21/iggy21_2006/general/103286.jpg)
My order to him
When I emailed meyle some weeks ago, they said they were central.
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Mark - How much better (in what way) are these BMW ones?
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Sounds like you (set of 4?), me (2 sets of 4), Kevin (1 set) and maybe Scruntie would be interested.
Indeed. I would like a set of 4 of the Meyle bushes. If you're happy to order them in one go then PM me some details and I'll get payment to you by whatever means you like. Failing that I'll order them separately.
Kevin
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I will order the Omega ones then, after what Matchless said and looking at the picture, as the Meyle picture shows it off centre
If still want the BMW HD ones let me know b4 I order.
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just ordered front pair wishbones £58 all in from the vaux centre.
http://www.vauxcentre.co.uk/index.php?product_id=485975&option=Prod_detail&image_id=190941
comes with 12 month warranty
sorry for thread hijack :-[
Is the nearside one predrilled for HID level sensor (2 holes)?
dbug
i wont know until they arrive tomorrow, i'l let you know then. i would presume so. :-[
upon further investigation the answer is no. the two holes will have to be drilled using existing wishbone. :o
should not be too much of a problem :-/
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Iggy , I will go for the regular Omega ones too - 2 sets.
Shall I give him a call and see if he is up for a deal - only going to be a few quid but what the heck.. Sounds like we are up for 4 sets between you, Kevin and me.
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Ordering 6 sets 2 for iggy, 2 for ians, 1 for kevin, 1 spare.
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Iggy,
Just spoke to Jason. Turns out he doesn't need to place the order until Thursday, which gives us a bit more time for any others to get on board.
Cheers,
Ian
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iggy21uk – I would order one set (2+2) but I don’t have any tools to do it. Do you have a hydraulic press or using special tool? Any help would be welcome.
I bought a set of Bilstein/ Febi 10 monhts ago, but count be bothered to do it myself and mechanic has tighten up all screws before lowering my car. This way one of horizontal rubbers is leaking now…
BTW - How much is a Meyle idler?
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Martin (sp?),
I just asked at the place I had my MOT done (Woolhampton) - they have a press and would do it for a tenner. I am sure any workshop is likely to have similar equipment.
Cheers
Ian
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iggy21uk – I would order one set (2+2) but I don’t have any tools to do it. Do you have a hydraulic press or using special tool? Any help would be welcome.
I bought a set of Bilstein/ Febi 10 monhts ago, but count be bothered to do it myself and mechanic has tighten up all screws before lowering my car. This way one of horizontal rubbers is leaking now…
BTW - How much is a Meyle idler?
At this moment in time plan on taking it to WIM.
see post from ians your both in Reading
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iggy21uk – I would order one set (2+2) but I don’t have any tools to do it. Do you have a hydraulic press or using special tool? Any help would be welcome.
I bought a set of Bilstein/ Febi 10 monhts ago, but count be bothered to do it myself and mechanic has tighten up all screws before lowering my car. This way one of horizontal rubbers is leaking now…
BTW - How much is a Meyle idler?
(http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n21/iggy21_2006/general/95529758077-1.jpg)
Don't know waiting for the guy to call at a meeting in the catalog part number has HD after which means heavy duty. Will ask the price
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My name is Marcin, but Martin is ok as well [ch61514]
Sorry – steering idler. I will have to check my suspension idlers as well.
Right – Ian is from Reading so I could collect it from here. I know that there are tools to replace bushings. It’s just few big washers/adapters with screw to push it in. Money is not a problem but the car needs to be on the ramp for a while…
I neew to think about the tool but you can add one full set of bushings for me.
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Hi,
Message for Iggy.
Being one of the "Front bush failure mob" at WIM on Sunday, I would be pleased if you would also order a set of the Meyle bushes for me.
If what you are calling a set is 2 horizontal and 2 of the vertical, then thats what I want.
Just let me know how much ££ to send you.
Roger
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Can you add large fries and medium diet coke for me please.
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Placing order Wednesday now may be Thursday morning.
Meyle drop link is £13.00 + vat + postage.
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We need to decide if you place the order for all of them - can we then ring through individually to All German with our card and address details. Or would they all get sent to you? Then we need to work out how to get them..
Do you have any idea what delivery time is expected?
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Now then, sorry ive left this a bit late but should we
be trying this on an old set first to see if all this is
possible? I mean, i wouldnt want to put a car on a ramp
Remove the wish bones take out the bushes and
Only then find out that the part does not fit, is not
right, cant be refitted or causes a problem of some
Sort to the handling when finished. If we had an old
pair kicking about we could mess about with those
Find the best part and the cheapest process and in the
Mean time if its no good stick the old wishbones
Back on and get the car off the ramp/back on the
Road.
What about an exchange service? Ok, getting ahead
Of myself now... Are we sure this is possible with the
Pressing out and back in process?
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Now then, sorry ive left this a bit late but should we
be trying this on an old set first to see if all this is
possible? I mean, i wouldnt want to put a car on a ramp
Remove the wish bones take out the bushes and
Only then find out that the part does not fit, is not
right, cant be refitted or causes a problem of some
Sort to the handling when finished. If we had an old
pair kicking about we could mess about with those
Find the best part and the cheapest process and in the
Mean time if its no good stick the old wishbones
Back on and get the car off the ramp/back on the
Road.
What about an exchange service? Ok, getting ahead
Of myself now... Are we sure this is possible with the
Pressing out and back in process?
Yes, I have a press and the correct drifts to do the job, in fact I did TB's the other week.
The parts being ordered are the Merle Omega bushes so will fit and should be as per originals (Merle are a very good make)
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Can you add large fries and medium diet coke for me please.
Should have come on Sunday could have had rolls, chicken etc
Also not in the catalogue ;D
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Now then, sorry ive left this a bit late but should we
be trying this on an old set first to see if all this is
possible? I mean, i wouldnt want to put a car on a ramp
Remove the wish bones take out the bushes and
Only then find out that the part does not fit, is not
right, cant be refitted or causes a problem of some
Sort to the handling when finished. If we had an old
pair kicking about we could mess about with those
Find the best part and the cheapest process and in the
Mean time if its no good stick the old wishbones
Back on and get the car off the ramp/back on the
Road.
What about an exchange service? Ok, getting ahead
Of myself now... Are we sure this is possible with the
Pressing out and back in process?
Yes, I have a press and the correct drifts to do the job, in fact I did TB's the other week.
The parts being ordered are the Merle Omega bushes so will fit and should be as per originals (Merle are a very good make)
Thats good enough for me. Can i have a set too then
please? Can i? Can i? Hmmm ?
Or have i left it to late?
By a set i mean, to do both bushes on both
wishbones. Where do i send the cash?
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Iggy 2 sets, ians 2 sets, kevin 1 set, roger 1 set, marcin 1 set,
chris 1 set. spare 1 set.
Set= Meyle Horizontal bushing: 2 x 614 035 0016 [£9.00 each+vat]
Meyle Vertical bushing: 2 x 614 035 0010 [£5.00 each + vat]
Iggy: Heavy Duty drop links : 2 x 616 060 5575/HD [£13.00 each + vat]
Postage at cost.
[PS. B4 U ask I'm not VAT reg]
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Hi Iggy,
Many thanks for all the trouble you are going to for us all.
Just let me know how much ££ when.
Roger
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Just to throw a spanner in the works looking at the Merle bits
just seen this by the bushes?
Omega B Stufenh./Sedan
03.1994 - 07.2003
except: 2.5 D
Omega B Caravan / Wagon
03.1994 - 07.2003
except: 2.6
I thought they were all the same?
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Just to throw a spanner in the works looking at the Merle bits
just seen this by the bushes?
Omega B Stufenh./Sedan
03.1994 - 07.2003
except: 2.5 D
Omega B Caravan / Wagon
03.1994 - 07.2003
except: 2.6
I thought they were all the same?
They are all the same, they have it wrong!
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Thanks Mark.
Thought they were all the same.
Order gone in.
Being deliverered from Meyle in Germany direct to me to speed thing up.
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Thanks Iggy - when do you expect delivery?
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:y thanks iggy, your a star. Cash waiting.
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Thanks Iggy - when do you expect delivery?
Packed - departing UPS today. :y
No tracking No.
If get one will advise if I get a date,
Please don't call Jason re delivery for the order as he very busy.
But very helpful.
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Bits are here
Look like bushes.
and drop links.
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Wahay. Shall i come get them/give you cash?
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Wahay. Shall i come get them/give you cash?
Got four sets going to Reading helpful if we can arrange just one pick up cost wise ?????
Best option is get Tony at WIM to fit them then have Geomenty check after. no problem for me to deliver to him ? :y :y
PS. Look good spec. wise
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Wahay. Shall i come get them/give you cash?
Chris, Are you ok going to Iggy's? If so would be great if you could pick mine up at the time (and possibly Marcins/Kevins too - but I'll leave that to them!).
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Would be great if Ian could collect our ones.
Just let me know when and how much. :) Ian - beer is on me :D
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Wahay. Shall i come get them/give you cash?
Got four sets going to Reading helpful if we can arrange just one pick up cost wise ?????
Best option is get Tony at WIM to fit them then have Geomenty check after. no problem for me to deliver to him ? :y :y
PS. Look good spec. wise
Will ring wim and make some enquiries. Hopefully can
Do my car, pick up bushes and pay you, all in one go.
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Wahay. Shall i come get them/give you cash?
Got four sets going to Reading helpful if we can arrange just one pick up cost wise ?????
Best option is get Tony at WIM to fit them then have Geomenty check after. no problem for me to deliver to him ? :y :y
PS. Look good spec. wise
Will ring wim and make some enquiries. Hopefully can
Do my car, pick up bushes and pay you, all in one go.
If hes going to do it I will take the bushes to him, what ever you decide
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Collected Bushes yesterday, Miggy was dead on 2 wheels for a few hours, WOW what a difference. Replaced all 4 2 front, 2 rear.
Febi Bilstein
02263 for the Fronts £10.85 each
width 56 mm
inside diameter 14 mm
outside diameter 58,5 mm
02183 for the Rears £8.00 each
width 45,5 mm
inside diameter 14 mm
outside diameter 49 mm
+ Vat
Ready for WIM now :y :y :y :y
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damn I got on this topic just a bit too late :(
Did anyone go for the beemer bushes in the end? Last time I had my motor up at WIM tony said that my front wishbone bushes were shot and I ought to get new wishbones.
By the sounds of things you need specialist tools to fit news bushes to a set of wishbones... all in all what will work out cheaper for me? buying new bushes and getting tony to fit them or getting whole new pattern wishbones and fitting them myself (or getting my £8.54 ph mechanic to do it!)
I still need to go to WIM to get my camber adjusted (which I paid for but didnt have done due to the bushes)
Is there any massive benefit to getting meyle/merle or beemer or poly bushes over simply buying new wishbones?
thanks guys!
Ben
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Aaarghh! Been away and missed a bush order!
I would like to replace the 2 x Front bushes (horizontal?). Did anyone have any spares ordered or know the best way to get some?
I changed my wishbones about 8 months ago but i tightened them up in the wrong way (didn't think at the time) and I am now getting a nasty pull to the left under heavy braking.
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ok, i intend to pick up bushes for the reading area tomorrow,
weds 6th aug.
ians 2sets
kevin wood 1 set
marchin 1 set
IF thats what everyone wants. :-/ please confirm.
i intend paying him for myn ians and marchin. please pay me instead??
kevin wood paying by paypal
bit short notice but hes been out of pocket long enough, i think.
Thanks to iggy :y
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Wish we'd have thought of the WIM replacement option. Took ours to a kindly garage owner and used his equipment to put the bushes in the arms.
Lets just say the little one came with us, it was a family effort and all three of us were covered in black stuff by the end lol (mind u the garage owner did ask me if I wanted a job by the end.., didn't say the same to Jue for some reason, no idea why lol). Not a good time for me to put the midget in a brand new Tshirt with white stripes!
Wanted: Three sets of overalls, one midget sized :P
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Wish we'd have thought of the WIM replacement option. Took ours to a kindly garage owner and used his equipment to put the bushes in the arms.
Lets just say the little one came with us, it was a family effort and all three of us were covered in black stuff by the end lol (mind u the garage owner did ask me if I wanted a job by the end.., didn't say the same to Jue for some reason, no idea why lol). Not a good time for me to put the midget in a brand new Tshirt with white stripes!
Wanted: Three sets of overalls, one midget sized :P
bet he loved it though , didn't he.. Omega apprentice :y
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ok, i intend to pick up bushes for the reading area tomorrow,
weds 6th aug.
ians 2sets
kevin wood 1 set
marchin 1 set
IF thats what everyone wants. :-/ please confirm.
i intend paying him for myn ians and marchin. please pay me instead??
kevin wood paying by paypal
bit short notice but hes been out of pocket long enough, i think.
Thanks to iggy :y
Chris,
(posting here as it appears you can't PM several people at once.. tells me I'm a spammer ;D)
Correct - 2 sets for me and I'm happy to collect from you Thurs/Friday - I work in Green Park so should be easy enough to arrange to get together.
Propbably best if you fix something with Marcin direct as I will be away imminently.
Kevin - I'm happy to drop yours into your parents place if you want - just let me know. Chris - are you certain Kevin wants his picking up - would be a bit daft if he turned up at WIM when the bushes were in Reading;)
Cheers,
Ian
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Ian - will you collect it in Reading? I could come down and collect it as well. Otherwise - would there be a chance to collect if from you at any time you want?
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Marcin, Chris is collecting them from Iggy. I suggest you pick yours up from Chris direct, as I live a bit outside Reading and anyway am away in a couple of days. OK for you?
Cheers
Ian
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ok just waiting for word from Marcin that he is happy
For me to pick up for him. Can arrange something
To drop off, no worries.
Spoke to kevin hes happy As well.
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Thanks Chris for collecting the bushes.
Hope everyone will be happy.
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Thanks Chris for collecting the bushes.
Hope everyone will be happy.
Your welcome iggy, thankyou for sorting it in the first place. Very kind of you.
Ians picking up a.m. Just Marcin to sort out.
Thanks again iggy. :y
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Is it ok for you to meet today? Ill be in Reading today, after 6p.m. If not, then Friday or weekend so that it will fit you.
Thanks once again.
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Marcin, Chris is collecting them from Iggy. I suggest you pick yours up from Chris direct, as I live a bit outside Reading and anyway am away in a couple of days. OK for you?
Cheers
Ian
I have Marcin s bushes they are in Reading!!
Getting closer. Let me know when you can pickem up. Cheers.
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CAN SOMEONE TELL ME WHERE I CAN GET THE 4 BUSHES ON LINE PREF POLY.........
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Step 1 - Remove Caps Lock
Step 2 - Try page 2 of this thread.