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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Pitchfork on 05 April 2009, 16:23:23
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Seems the 5 that overtook me on double solid white lines earlier on the A339 between Lasham & Basingstoke have a deathwish!
As Kevin will doubtless confirm, that road is notorious for motorcycle accidents & fatalities
My son-in-law (local area car driver Hampshire Constabulary) has had to scrape up many of them
Total irresponsibility! >:(
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thats how bikers get a bad name, i am just happy to cruise about, and only overtake when there is plenty of space, room, and a good view.
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M4 this afternoon, bunch of 'bikes, 6 or 7 ... all biggish (well big back wheels anyway !!) weaving all over the place, I was in middle lane doing 60 overtaking a truck, they went past me in outside lane, got really close to a Shogun ahead of them, then pulled right across in front of me onto the hard shoulder and went down the inside of a coach before swinging back out to the outside lane.... I guess all done at about 90 mph... then they opened up and pulled away pretty quickly.
Would only have taken a moment for it all to have gone very wrong :(
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thats how bikers get a bad name, i am just happy to cruise about, and only overtake when there is plenty of space, room, and a good view.
Shame really as all bikers seem to get tarnished with the same brush due to a small minority of selfish bikers...
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thats how bikers get a bad name, i am just happy to cruise about, and only overtake when there is plenty of space, room, and a good view.
Shame really as all bikers seem to get tarnished with the same brush due to a small minority of selfish bikers...
Is it selfishness or stupidity?
I ride bikes as well but would never consider something as dangerous as that!
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thats how bikers get a bad name, i am just happy to cruise about, and only overtake when there is plenty of space, room, and a good view.
Shame really as all bikers seem to get tarnished with the same brush due to a small minority of selfish bikers...
Is it selfishness or stupidity?
I ride bikes as well but would never consider something as dangerous as that!
Unfortunately there balls are bigger than there brains.... >:(
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Seems the 5 that overtook me on double solid white lines earlier on the A339 between Lasham & Basingstoke have a deathwish!
As Kevin will doubtless confirm, that road is notorious for motorcycle accidents & fatalities
My son-in-law (local area car driver Hampshire Constabulary) has had to scrape up many of them
Total irresponsibility! >:(
Remember though that the biker can usually see further than you cos he's higher up than you. And double white lines don't mean NO OVERTAKING, you're not allowed to cross them (apart from slow moving tractors etc) clicky (http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTransport/Highwaycode/DG_070306) so if you can overtake without crossing them, as a bike can ....
The rider of the quad bike that had to overtake the line of traffic this afternnoon had a death wish. No helmets either.
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Seems the 5 that overtook me on double solid white lines earlier on the A339 between Lasham & Basingstoke have a deathwish!
As Kevin will doubtless confirm, that road is notorious for motorcycle accidents & fatalities
My son-in-law (local area car driver Hampshire Constabulary) has had to scrape up many of them
Total irresponsibility! >:(
Remember though that the biker can usually see further than you cos he's higher up than you. And double white lines don't mean NO OVERTAKING, you're not allowed to cross them (apart from slow moving tractors etc) clicky (http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTransport/Highwaycode/DG_070306) so if you can overtake without crossing them, as a bike can ....
The rider of the quad bike that had to overtake the line of traffic this afternnoon had a death wish. No helmets either.
They were all well over the lines & my traktor was travelling at 60mph
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Seems the 5 that overtook me on double solid white lines earlier on the A339 between Lasham & Basingstoke have a deathwish!
As Kevin will doubtless confirm, that road is notorious for motorcycle accidents & fatalities
My son-in-law (local area car driver Hampshire Constabulary) has had to scrape up many of them
Total irresponsibility! >:(
Remember though that the biker can usually see further than you cos he's higher up than you. And double white lines don't mean NO OVERTAKING, you're not allowed to cross them (apart from slow moving tractors etc) clicky (http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTransport/Highwaycode/DG_070306) so if you can overtake without crossing them, as a bike can ....
The rider of the quad bike that had to overtake the line of traffic this afternnoon had a death wish. No helmets either.
They were all well over the lines & my traktor was travelling at 60mph
Wasn't really defending them, I wasn't there, just offering another point of view! ;) ;) ;)
We went to Southport today (tried to see the sea .... but gave up! ;D) and there were 100's of bikes out & about, mostly behaving themselves though. :y :y
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I very nearly took out a biker on the A339 once. I was overtaking another car on a 1/2 mile long straight. Thought I saw something - so slowed up and pulled back in.
"Something" turned out to be a bike coming the other way doing about a ton with his front wheel about 4' up in the air. This was at twilight when it's less easy to see other vehicles. He might well have had his headlight on - if he had it was illuminating the trees.
The problem is, that road is a good driver's road when it's quiet. Some lovely bends but also some long straights that are pretty boring at 60 MPH when you're pumped up with adrenalin and driving / riding at 10/10ths or stuck behind the usual 45 MPH "A" road dawdlers. When I'm up at the airfield I often hear bikes accelerate flat out through 6 gears along one of those straights.
It's really not worth trying to enjoy that road unless you catch it empty but still the bikers pile down there on any sunny afternoon and quite often there's carnage, because so much overtaking is required when it's busy.
Kevin
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I can't say much as i misbehave BIGSTYLE on a bike. Guilty of everything. I know it's dangerous & irresponsible, i agree totally but adreneline gets the better of me. The buzz you get when riding like a tw*t is irresistable. I'll stand up & admit it despite the scorn from sensible riders. A ban for me would mean losing my house, so i no longer ride.
Been toying with the idea of a trike though. I like the old biker style from the 60's/70's & would happy to cruise on something like that without killing myself. Never took my bike test either & won't. You almost have to go to uni know!!!!! :y
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Wasnt there ,so cant comment ,but there are many circumstances where it is easy and effortless to overtake on a bike where it would be bordering on suicide in a car,much smaller more maneuverable with much more acceleration. :y
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True, the accelleration on a sports bike is phenomenal...but crossing a solid white line, even when it is safe enough for a bike to do, is just asking for heafty points.
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I drive a 38 tonne artic, and I know we all get annoyed at following them at 40 mph on single carriageways, but the stupidity I see from some bikers (not all i must say) is outstanding. If it all went wrong there is nothing I could do to stop in time.
38 tonnes versus 600kg bike, I am sure I would have nightmares for the rest of my life.
Also in an artic we often can't see them till it's point of no return (Blindspots are terrible on an artic)
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it is quite difficult to comprehend the performance if you havent experienced it. And likewise, its quite difficult for a biker that doesnt drive a car to understand how some vehicles could possibly travel sooo slowly.
Remember sitting behind many a driver and being patient, picking my moment and overtaking with plenty of room, and yet once past and up to the speed limit(sometimes)look in the mirror to see a look of total shock and disgust on the drivers face. Quite often swerveing or breaking for no reason, as they are behind me already.
Bikes respond in a fraction of the time of a car with a twice as alert rider(hopefully)and processing info at twice the rate with no distractions. The bike inspires confidence, its higher up can move road position to for a better view, and will be looking further ahead, what ever they where doing will most likely "feel" perfectly safe to them.
Having been to the tt and watched at and ridden the same points of the course on mad Sunday, what looks totally insane as a spectator, feels nothing like as dangerous as i rider.
Point is two points of view are poles apart.
However the laws point of view.... Well basically massive self controle is needed from a biker along with similar levels of concentration. If you ride a bike with the same attention level as driving a car, imho, you wont last too long, which is part of the problem. When paying attention you see more "opportunities"... without self controle the law gets broken so quickly there seems little point bothering.
We use to call it TT rules. Stick to 30s and 40s and pin it everywhere else.(no national speed limit in the isle of man last i hurd)
Not defending it, its why i packed it in. Just another other point of view.
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M4 this afternoon, bunch of 'bikes, 6 or 7 ... all biggish (well big back wheels anyway !!) weaving all over the place, I was in middle lane doing 60 overtaking a truck, they went past me in outside lane, got really close to a Shogun ahead of them, then pulled right across in front of me onto the hard shoulder and went down the inside of a coach before swinging back out to the outside lane.... I guess all done at about 90 mph... then they opened up and pulled away pretty quickly.
Would only have taken a moment for it all to have gone very wrong :(
Whats a 3.2 V6 doing in the middle lane at 60mph ::)
Did you have a hat on as well ;D :D :)
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I drive a 38 tonne artic, and I know we all get annoyed at following them at 40 mph on single carriageways, but the stupidity I see from some bikers (not all i must say) is outstanding. If it all went wrong there is nothing I could do to stop in time.
38 tonnes versus 600kg bike, I am sure I would have nightmares for the rest of my life.
Also in an artic we often can't see them till it's point of no return (Blindspots are terrible on an artic)
When was the last time anyone saw an HGV doing 40mph even on a single carriageway ::) ::) ::)
On Saturday I had to do nearly 80 mph on saturday on the A1 to pass a huge artic with a dumper on the back of it. So much for 56.
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M4 this afternoon, bunch of 'bikes, 6 or 7 ... all biggish (well big back wheels anyway !!) weaving all over the place, I was in middle lane doing 60 overtaking a truck, they went past me in outside lane, got really close to a Shogun ahead of them, then pulled right across in front of me onto the hard shoulder and went down the inside of a coach before swinging back out to the outside lane.... I guess all done at about 90 mph... then they opened up and pulled away pretty quickly.
Would only have taken a moment for it all to have gone very wrong :(
Whats a 3.2 V6 doing in the middle lane at 60mph ::)
Did you have a hat on as well ;D :D :)
No hat .. I don't do IQ reducers or the flat cap variety .... :)
but the 'van was behind me .. so cruise control set at 60 to avoid getting into trouble ..... far too easy to suddenly be doing 80 .. and with a 'van on the back that is just stupid !!!
:)
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I drive a 38 tonne artic, and I know we all get annoyed at following them at 40 mph on single carriageways, but the stupidity I see from some bikers (not all i must say) is outstanding. If it all went wrong there is nothing I could do to stop in time.
38 tonnes versus 600kg bike, I am sure I would have nightmares for the rest of my life.
Also in an artic we often can't see them till it's point of no return (Blindspots are terrible on an artic)
When was the last time anyone saw an HGV doing 40mph even on a single carriageway ::) ::) ::)
On Saturday I had to do nearly 80 mph on saturday on the A1 to pass a huge artic with a dumper on the back of it. So much for 56.
he must have taken the fuse out ;D if you know what i mean lol ;D ;D
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I drive a 38 tonne artic, and I know we all get annoyed at following them at 40 mph on single carriageways, but the stupidity I see from some bikers (not all i must say) is outstanding. If it all went wrong there is nothing I could do to stop in time.
38 tonnes versus 600kg bike, I am sure I would have nightmares for the rest of my life.
Also in an artic we often can't see them till it's point of no return (Blindspots are terrible on an artic)
When was the last time anyone saw an HGV doing 40mph even on a single carriageway ::) ::) ::)
On Saturday I had to do nearly 80 mph on saturday on the A1 to pass a huge artic with a dumper on the back of it. So much for 56.
he must have taken the fuse out ;D if you know what i mean lol ;D ;D
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M4 this afternoon, bunch of 'bikes, 6 or 7 ... all biggish (well big back wheels anyway !!) weaving all over the place, I was in middle lane doing 60 overtaking a truck, they went past me in outside lane, got really close to a Shogun ahead of them, then pulled right across in front of me onto the hard shoulder and went down the inside of a coach before swinging back out to the outside lane.... I guess all done at about 90 mph... then they opened up and pulled away pretty quickly.
Would only have taken a moment for it all to have gone very wrong :(
Whats a 3.2 V6 doing in the middle lane at 60mph ::)
Did you have a hat on as well ;D :D :)
No hat .. I don't do IQ reducers or the flat cap variety .... :)
but the 'van was behind me .. so cruise control set at 60 to avoid getting into trouble ..... far too easy to suddenly be doing 80 .. and with a 'van on the back that is just stupid !!!
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Ahh....ok your excused if you had the pikey wagon in tow ;) :)
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I dont like riding in groups,it tends to end up like a game of chicken at times,no-one wants to be the slowest everyone wants to be the fastest etc;I used to go to the bike meet at Gt.Bentley on weds evenings about 9 years ago with some other bikers,but it got a bit too lairy,there were blokes on R1,s wheelying down the outside lane of the A12 overtaking everything in sight,in top gear at well over 100mph.
One weds. there were 5 killed in 4 seperate incidents on their way home,that was enough for me.
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Used to be fuse 21 on a Daf as I recall ;D ;D ;D ;D
Unfortunately to many camera vans on A roads these days >:( >:( >:(
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Used to be fuse 21 on a Daf as I recall ;D ;D ;D ;D
Unfortunately to many camera vans on A roads these days >:( >:( >:(
dont know what fuse ;) i dont drive them i just fix them when our drivers break them up ;D ;D
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Used to be fuse 21 on a Daf as I recall ;D ;D ;D ;D
Unfortunately to many camera vans on A roads these days >:( >:( >:(
dont know what fuse ;) i dont drive them i just fix them when our drivers break them up ;D ;D
Drivers come with the special in-built ability to break trucks in new imaginative ways that annoy fitters ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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I hate that a 339!!!! got done for speeding at both ends by the same damn copper when i was driving a transporter, both times had 10 cars on and was doing 46 the first time downhill and 47 the second time !!!
explained to the cops that if i kept it around 45 the idiots in cars were usually happy to sit behind me but if i did 40 they were trying to pass anywhere they thought they had a chance, so i was actually saving him having to attend accidents!! not a chance he said I have to get me figures up !!! :(
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I hate that a 339!!!! got done for speeding at both ends by the same damn copper when i was driving a transporter, both times had 10 cars on and was doing 46 the first time downhill and 47 the second time !!!
explained to the cops that if i kept it around 45 the idiots in cars were usually happy to sit behind me but if i did 40 they were trying to pass anywhere they thought they had a chance, so i was actually saving him having to attend accidents!! not a chance he said I have to get me figures up !!! :(
Motorists particularly truckers are an easy target, wish I could book every copper who overtook me illegally, whilst speeding :-X. the A5 between Milton Keynes and Towcester is a particular hotspot between 10 and 10.30. There is a super sausage cafe where they meet.
I am not joking or exaggerating either :)
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Used to be fuse 21 on a Daf as I recall ;D ;D ;D ;D
Unfortunately to many camera vans on A roads these days >:( >:( >:(
dont know what fuse ;) i dont drive them i just fix them when our drivers break them up ;D ;D
Drivers come with the special in-built ability to break trucks in new imaginative ways that annoy fitters ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
i must agree with that one :y when im on my back under a tractor and a ejector trailor on a land fill site trying to get a old bed mattres of the propshaft >:( the driver stays far away from me :o :o ;D ;D
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Used to be fuse 21 on a Daf as I recall ;D ;D ;D ;D
Unfortunately to many camera vans on A roads these days >:( >:( >:(
dont know what fuse ;) i dont drive them i just fix them when our drivers break them up ;D ;D
Drivers come with the special in-built ability to break trucks in new imaginative ways that annoy fitters ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
i must agree with that one :y when im on my back under a tractor and a ejector trailor on a land fill site trying to get a old bed mattres of the propshaft >:( the driver stays far away from me :o :o ;D ;D
Try truckers on the road, we are out of sight, out of mind and have even more imaginative ways to ruin a fitters day, especially when the overtime it is at a low this month ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Used to be fuse 21 on a Daf as I recall ;D ;D ;D ;D
Unfortunately to many camera vans on A roads these days >:( >:( >:(
dont know what fuse ;) i dont drive them i just fix them when our drivers break them up ;D ;D
Drivers come with the special in-built ability to break trucks in new imaginative ways that annoy fitters ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
i must agree with that one :y when im on my back under a tractor and a ejector trailor on a land fill site trying to get a old bed mattres of the propshaft >:( the driver stays far away from me :o :o ;D ;D
Try truckers on the road, we are out of sight, out of mind and have even more imaginative ways to ruin a fitters day, especially when the overtime it is at a low this month ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
so you get a lot brake downs around xmas then ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Used to be fuse 21 on a Daf as I recall ;D ;D ;D ;D
Unfortunately to many camera vans on A roads these days >:( >:( >:(
dont know what fuse ;) i dont drive them i just fix them when our drivers break them up ;D ;D
Drivers come with the special in-built ability to break trucks in new imaginative ways that annoy fitters ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
i must agree with that one :y when im on my back under a tractor and a ejector trailor on a land fill site trying to get a old bed mattres of the propshaft >:( the driver stays far away from me :o :o ;D ;D
Try truckers on the road, we are out of sight, out of mind and have even more imaginative ways to ruin a fitters day, especially when the overtime it is at a low this month ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
so you get a lot brake downs around xmas then ;D ;D ;D ;D
That big thing that uses all the diesel underneath the cab stops making that loud 'engine' sort of noise
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I know the road very well and have attended many a fatal accident along it when working recovery. The stories I can recall are not suitable for discussion here and could easily give nightmares :o :o
That said, it's still one of my favourite roads both in a car and on a bike but there's a time and a place for silly things! And that road isn't either!
I have been known to feel invincible on the bike, in fact it's why I got rid 4 years ago. I was not in the right frame of mind for riding a 250Kg machine which was capable of out accelerating anything on 4 wheels, and lots of things on 2, and somewhere in the region of 160mph so got rid!
I'm now looking for another one though as the troubled times I was going through are long gone and I'd be happy to ride out again now without being too silly... Unfortunately bikes have the same effect on most people... Adrenaline and a fantastic feeling of freedom. This can lead to stupidity if not kept in check! Any biker/driver who says they've not done something a little naughty is probably telling fibs as we all do it! :-? :-?
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M4 this afternoon, bunch of 'bikes, 6 or 7 ... all biggish (well big back wheels anyway !!) weaving all over the place, I was in middle lane doing 60 overtaking a truck, they went past me in outside lane, got really close to a Shogun ahead of them, then pulled right across in front of me onto the hard shoulder and went down the inside of a coach before swinging back out to the outside lane.... I guess all done at about 90 mph... then they opened up and pulled away pretty quickly.
Would only have taken a moment for it all to have gone very wrong :(
Whats a 3.2 V6 doing in the middle lane at 60mph ::)
Did you have a hat on as well ;D :D :)
It's a single carriageway & I drive a Traktor!