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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Richie London on 13 April 2009, 21:54:41
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Do you remember February 1993 in England , when a
young boy of 3 was taken from a Liverpool shopping
centre by two 10-year-old boys?
Jamie Bulger walked away from his mother for only
a second, Jon Venables took his hand and led him out
of the mall with his friend Robert Thompson. They took
Jamie on a walk for over 2 and a half miles, along the
way stopping every now and again to
torture the poor little boy who was crying
constantly for his mummy.
Finally they stopped at a railway track where they
brutally kicked him, threw stones at him, rubbed paint
in his eyes, pushed batteries up his a*** and cut his
fingers off with scissors. Other mutilations were
inflicted but not reported in the press.
N.B. :- Remember, a 3year old cannot possibly
defend themselves against a 10 year old, let alone of
2 them.
What these two boys did was so horrendous that
Jamie's mother was forbidden to identify his body.
They then left his beaten small body on railway
tracks so a train could run him over to hide the mess
they had created. These two boys, even being boys,
understood what they did was wrong, hence trying to
make it look like an accident.
This week Lady Justice Butler-Sloss has awarded
the two boys ( now men ), anonymity for the rest of
their lives when they leave custody with new
identities. They will also leave custody early only
serving just over half of their sentence.
They are being relocated to Australia to live out
the rest of their lives. They disgustingly and
violently took Jamie's life away and in return they
each get a new life!
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Literally shocking.
Nothing more I can say
>:(
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I'm not saying these are my views, but....
The authorities can't really do anything else - if they kept and published their identities, they would likely be murdered. In the eyes of the law they have served their sentence. Now they are 'normal' people, and need to be protected as you or I would be.
Fair? Well, thats going to be an interesting debate...
As said, not necessarily my views! Please don't spam my inbox!
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same here its shocking, kids or not they should be locked up forever or even hung
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i remember the case,who could forget it, but reading through your post nearly had me in tears. Bastards!!!!!
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Do you remember February 1993 in England , when a
young boy of 3 was taken from a Liverpool shopping
centre by two 10-year-old boys?
Jamie Bulger walked away from his mother for only
a second, Jon Venables took his hand and led him out
of the mall with his friend Robert Thompson. They took
Jamie on a walk for over 2 and a half miles, along the
way stopping every now and again to
torture the poor little boy who was crying
constantly for his mummy.
Finally they stopped at a railway track where they
brutally kicked him, threw stones at him, rubbed paint
in his eyes, pushed batteries up his a*** and cut his
fingers off with scissors. Other mutilations were
inflicted but not reported in the press.
N.B. :- Remember, a 3year old cannot possibly
defend themselves against a 10 year old, let alone of
2 them.
What these two boys did was so horrendous that
Jamie's mother was forbidden to identify his body.
They then left his beaten small body on railway
tracks so a train could run him over to hide the mess
they had created. These two boys, even being boys,
understood what they did was wrong, hence trying to
make it look like an accident.
This week Lady Justice Butler-Sloss has awarded
the two boys ( now men ), anonymity for the rest of
their lives when they leave custody with new
identities. They will also leave custody early only
serving just over half of their sentence.
They are being relocated to Australia to live out
the rest of their lives. They disgustingly and
violently took Jamie's life away and in return they
each get a new life!
I hope they get found out one day. Maybe, just maybe justice will prevail.
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As Jamie basicaly says, it's difficult to reply on this one.
No doubt thier names will be found out, or even left on a laptop on a train some where.
Eveyone has a different view on justice, sadly the law is the law.
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Not revealing their new identities is one thing -- but while they have been in custody they have had the best private tuition, better treatment than many kids at home, and are now going to be relocated to Oz -- at great expense --- set up for life as a "reward" for a horrendous crime!
Something, somewhere is sadly amiss >:( >:(
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Sorry, we keep mentioning the kids, but surely the parents also need to carry some of the blame as well?
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Someone will work out who they are.
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thats how it works in britain now. a friend of mine got 2 yrs hes now a corgi registered gas fitter working for tha gas board, earns great money too. 10 times better off then me
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The world has gone mad, all i hope is they spend the rest of their life's looking over their shoulders and living in fear of their lives. >:(
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Someone will work out who they are.
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Of that I have no doubt :-X
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Wicked and depraved; but if we have a system of normative jurisprudence; we must accept (at least in theory) the premise of fair-punishment and the hope of eventual redemption....bad, most-certainly; but, bad for good?
.....well, the parole panel balances concerns, decides and appraises the crime, the risk of recidivism and the effect (and manner) of any early release on the victim (and families).
I don`t know what could be done for the best; the Australia relocation seems rather too easy a life path; almost a reward in the eyes of many.
But, could society stand by and let them be identified and made the sure target of a lynch mob?
The Judgement of Solomon is needed in this (and many other serious cases)......`just glad I don`t have to judge the rights and wrongs; there can never be a single solution seen as right; especially so for Jamie Bulger`s poor Mum. :'(
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Sorry, we keep mentioning the kids, but surely the parents also need to carry some of the blame as well?
to be honest i would of thought the parents have been punished more than the 2 boys.
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Sorry, we keep mentioning the kids, but surely the parents also need to carry some of the blame as well?
In the "old days", yes, TB -- but not, it seems, these days >:(
I recall, just after I left school, there was this "freedom of choice" ethos --- where kids weren't forced to learn anything they didn't wish to, or do anything they didn't wish to !!!! Those kids went on to become parents --- and their kids are a large proportion of today's problems !!!!!
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Just to point out that according to Wikipedia, poor James Bulger didnt have his fingers cut off with scissors or batteries forced inside him.
The batteries were put into his mouth, nowhere else.
Nonetheless, a truly shocking shocking crime.
:(
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Its always a bit difficult in cases like this to know the true facts as the media hype things up so much to sell papers etc. All I can say is that 1)surely, at even their young ages, the murderers shouldve known the difference between right and wrong and, therefore ,must take responsibility for their actions 2) their upbringing by their parents is obviously a factor but should not be made an excuse for their actions 3) if it were your son/daughter who had suffered at their hands ,no guesses for your reaction (and I for one firmly believe that in such cases there is no moral -and therefore, in theory, legal-problem in such revenge) and 4)whilst many might say that all children are innocents until parenting/conditioning plays its part, I do believe that some people are born evil-remember the pictures in the press of his murderers ? Why spend such money on these scum? Are they really "rehabillitated"? Lets hope karma works eh >:( :( In the meantime my thoughts are with James's parents.
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same here its shocking, kids or not they should be locked up forever or even hung
Normally id agree but seeing as they were so young maybe the backgrounds should have been looked into deeper.
After all kids might have a fight laugh and then shake hands but they dont normaly go too the lengths these two did...what triggered them into doing it.
Certainly wouldn't let them out....stick them in solitary and liquid cosh them daily.
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Should stay in jail for the rest of their lives imo.dont care how young they were when they did it.
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The answer is is slowly being implemented - floating prisons.
The final step is when full, sink for 2 days then re float and empty, repeat as necessary
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The answer is is slowly being implemented - floating prisons.
The final step is when full, sink for 2 days then re float and empty, repeat as necessary
Brilliant!......the crime figures would surely take a dive too! ;D
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Someone will work out who they are.
I for one sincerely hope so, they should never have been considered for release let alone shipped to sunny Oz to start a fresh.
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Someone will work out who they are.
I for one sincerely hope so, they should never have been considered for release let alone shipped to sunny Oz to start a fresh.
Hopefully they have been given jobs on one of the beaches, To attract Sharks away from swimmers. Budget strectches to a pair of trunks and some fish oil to help them swim faster..
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In the eyes of the law they have served their sentence.
In my view it should be the case that someone is tried, sentenced, then they serve their sentence. After that it should be done and dusted. Justice should have been done and the offender should be justified.
Lamentably we are consistently sentencing people and not ensuring that they serve their sentence. Consequently we have a whole army of people in our society who have not discharged their guilt. Also another army of aggrieved non-offenders who feel offended against a second time.
The whole process of sentencing needs to be reviewed so that appropriate sentences are handed down in the first place, then they are served out. Convenience and overcrowding of facilities should not play a significant part.
The James Bulger affair was a very sad reflection on what our society can conjure up.
:'(
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The answer is is slowly being implemented - floating prisons.
The final step is when full, sink for 2 days then re float and empty, repeat as necessary
And they will lock up all the speeding motorists in it
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Transportation finished years ago so why are they accepting them?
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they will be tracked, no question.
The parents should be named and shamed too, thats half the problem these days, its not the kids that are the problem, its the parents!