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Title: Budget 2009
Post by: Black Knight on 22 April 2009, 13:25:13
Well the car tax has increased as expected.

Can the omega depreciate any more than it already does?

All year 2000...


3.0 Auto    £440 :'(

3.0 Manual £415

2.5 Auto £440

2.5 Manual £415

2.0 Auto £415

2.0 Manual Estate £415

2.0 Manual saloon £300 (by 1 pt!!)

Title: Re: Budget 2009
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 22 April 2009, 13:30:15
Yes but, many Omegas are now worth at least 2 grand..........
Title: Re: Budget 2009
Post by: jonathanh on 22 April 2009, 13:43:32
I spotted that one as well.  not sure on the road tax for the pre emissions classified vehicles (Septe 01????) mine is '99 so I think I escape the badger's grip
Title: Re: Budget 2009
Post by: Jimbob on 22 April 2009, 13:45:42
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Well the car tax has increased as expected.

Can the omega depreciate any more than it already does?

All year 2000...


3.0 Auto    £440 :'(

3.0 Manual £415

2.5 Auto £440

2.5 Manual £415

2.0 Auto £415

2.0 Manual Estate £415

2.0 Manual saloon £300 (by 1 pt!!)



As far as I can tell for, this is still for just post 2001 cars
Title: Re: Budget 2009
Post by: Black Knight on 22 April 2009, 13:47:48
Apologies, should have used a later model for figues.

The tax applies to cars first registered on or after 1 March 2001.


I imagine the 2000/01 emisions will be fairly similar regardless.
Title: Re: Budget 2009
Post by: Proz on 22 April 2009, 14:04:51
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Well the car tax has increased as expected.

Can the omega depreciate any more than it already does?

All year 2000...


3.0 Auto    £440 :'(

3.0 Manual £415

2.5 Auto £440

2.5 Manual £415

2.0 Auto £415

2.0 Manual Estate £415

2.0 Manual saloon £300 (by 1 pt!!)


When is this coming into effect ....my tax due the end of May  >:( >:(
Title: Re: Budget 2009
Post by: Martin_1962 on 22 April 2009, 14:11:28
Fuel tax escalator is back >:(

Not sure if they have dropped the 2001-2006 new band or not
Title: Re: Budget 2009
Post by: tunnie on 22 April 2009, 14:11:58
thankfully mines on 2000 X Plate, phew!  :D
Title: Re: Budget 2009
Post by: smoothomega on 22 April 2009, 14:14:05
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Fuel tax escalator is back >:(

Not sure if they have dropped the 2001-2006 new band or not

How i read it this is what it is based on according to .gov web site, i may be wrong though, it has been known  ;D
Title: Re: Budget 2009
Post by: tunnie on 22 April 2009, 14:17:29
i don't see them reducing motorbike tax, its all money making bullsh!t this green stuff, my bike is far greener than most cars, but costs twice as much to tax as a 1.4 DCi Megan!  >:(
Title: Re: Budget 2009
Post by: Martin_1962 on 22 April 2009, 14:21:23
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i don't see them reducing motorbike tax, its all money making bullsh!t this green stuff, my bike is far greener than most cars, but costs twice as much to tax as a 1.4 DCi Megan!  >:(


Write to your local MP and ask why you have to pay?
Title: Re: Budget 2009
Post by: tunnie on 22 April 2009, 14:22:58
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i don't see them reducing motorbike tax, its all money making bullsh!t this green stuff, my bike is far greener than most cars, but costs twice as much to tax as a 1.4 DCi Megan!  >:(


Write to your local MP and ask why you have to pay?

No point, they will just write me a letter saying thanks for my views bla bla bla bla, nothing will actually happen
Title: Re: Budget 2009
Post by: wingman on 22 April 2009, 14:25:50
Don't think the rates quoted are right. In pre budget report in 2008 it was announced that there would be new bands created from May 2009. Cars with emissions above 225g/km  BUT registered before 23/03/06 will remain in this band. Thus Tax for this year for LPG cars will be £200 rising to £235 in 2010 and for petrol £215 rising to £245 in 2010.
I read all of this as my 3.2 LPG Mig will cost me £200 (going up from £195) this year as my tax is due 1st May!!
see http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicle/HowToTaxYourVehicle/DG_172916
Title: Re: Budget 2009
Post by: albitz on 22 April 2009, 14:26:54
Not sure if I heard it right,but Im sure Cameron said that Darlings borrowing for the next 2 years is more than the total borrowings of every previous chancellors borrowings combined. :-/ :o :o
Title: Re: Budget 2009
Post by: smoothomega on 22 April 2009, 14:30:11
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Don't think the rates quoted are right. In pre budget report in 2008 it was announced that there would be new bands created from May 2009. Cars with emissions above 225g/km  BUT registered before 23/03/06 will remain in this band. Thus Tax for this year for LPG cars will be £200 rising to £235 in 2010 and for petrol £215 rising to £245 in 2010.
I read all of this as my 3.2 LPG Mig will cost me £200 (going up from £195) this year as my tax is due 1st May!!
see http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicle/HowToTaxYourVehicle/DG_172916


Yep, thats how i read it too
Title: Re: Budget 2009
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 22 April 2009, 14:32:56
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Not sure if I heard it right,but Im sure Cameron said that Darlings borrowing for the next 2 years is more than the total borrowings of every previous chancellors borrowings combined. :-/ :o :o


You are right Albitz.  In fact the £348 billion to be borrowed overall is apparently the greatest amount by any chancellor, all combined, since the creation of the Bank of England over 300 years ago!! >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Budget 2009
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 22 April 2009, 14:35:52
Watch Cameron's speech on here:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8012052.stm

 :y :y :y
Title: Re: Budget 2009
Post by: miggy on 22 April 2009, 14:44:30
The £400 + only on cars registered after 23/3/06

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicle/HowToTaxYourVehicle/DG_10012524
Title: Re: Budget 2009
Post by: miggy on 22 April 2009, 14:54:21
And theres this

http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/road-tax/?deriv=17689
Title: Re: Budget 2009
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 22 April 2009, 15:02:12
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Not sure if I heard it right,but Im sure Cameron said that Darlings borrowing for the next 2 years is more than the total borrowings of every previous chancellors borrowings combined. :-/ :o :o


You are right Albitz.  In fact the £348 billion to be borrowed overall is apparently the greatest amount by any chancellor, all combined, since the creation of the Bank of England over 300 years ago!! >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

Yes Lizzie..............I think that is 175 billion............ and then another 173 billion..............making a total of 348 billion.....................OR ......PUT ANOTHER WAY.

THREE HUNDRED AND FORTY EIGHT THOUSAND MILLION POUNDS  :-/ :-/ :-/.......Big Bucks.. :-/ :-/ :-/ :y
Title: Re: Budget 2009
Post by: bertiecbx550 on 22 April 2009, 15:07:26
what the break does it mean????? i`m lost  :-? :-?
Title: Re: Budget 2009
Post by: OmegaGav on 22 April 2009, 15:14:09
Phew  ::) ::) Thank god I,m in the 2000 camp
Title: Re: Budget 2009
Post by: Martin_1962 on 22 April 2009, 15:15:20
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what the break does it mean????? i`m lost  :-? :-?


£3824 per person debt. :o :o :o :o

That means my family is in debt through goverment borrowing to £17120 >:( :o
Title: Re: Budget 2009
Post by: V6 Gix on 22 April 2009, 15:55:27
I watched the David Cameron speech that Lizzie posted and it fizzed my liver to see it.

DC is quite rightly stating that the UK's borrowing is out of control, and the two monkeys (Broon and Darling) sat across from him are sitting there laughing and sniggering to each other like bloody school children.

Rediculous. >:(

And breathe......
Title: Re: Budget 2009
Post by: LaserLance on 22 April 2009, 16:28:19
This goverment are truly the most incompetent bunch of buffons ever to grace this planet  >:( >:( their stupidity is of mind blowing preportions and who ever gets elected next has some serouis decisions to make , god help up if brown and the rest of those inept clowns get re-elected  >:( >:( as Pvt Frasier in Dads Army used to say "were all doomed "
Title: Re: Budget 2009
Post by: Nickbat on 22 April 2009, 16:33:08
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This goverment are truly the most incompetent bunch of buffons ever to grace this planet  >:( >:( their stupidity is of mind blowing preportions and who ever gets elected next has some serouis decisions to make , god help up if brown and the rest of those inept clowns get re-elected  >:( >:( as Pvt Frasier in Dads Army used to say "were all doomed "


Yes, but wasn't Gordon brave to go on Britain's Got Talent?

http://the-red-rag.blogspot.com/2009/04/gordons-got-no-talent.html

 ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Budget 2009
Post by: Del Boy on 22 April 2009, 17:57:03
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Apologies, should have used a later model for figues.

The tax applies to cars first registered on or after 1 March 2001.


I imagine the 2000/01 emisions will be fairly similar regardless.
2001-2006 06 or later get the real hefty tax prices read all the stuff here : http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/road-tax/
According to this a 3.2 Elite Auto will cost £245 for a years rent in 2010 and less this year.
Title: Re: Budget 2009
Post by: Del Boy on 22 April 2009, 18:00:34
And they just said on the news we're all in debt, well not everyone is the government is not me and a lot of other people aren't, no loans, nothing on finance etc etc, i'm sure it's the same for many others!!
I hate this government and to be honest I think I always will they have got the country into this mess and why should we get it out of the mess that it is in  >:(
Title: Re: Budget 2009
Post by: albitz on 22 April 2009, 18:17:27
He is introducing a "spite" tax-50% for people who earn over 150k,its just playing to the gallery again,seriously rich people simply send their money out of the country when Labour governments try to take it off them,they always have and they always will.And they may well leave the country at the same time as their money does,so the wealth creators get driven out of the country at the time when they atre needed most.
The situation is much worse than he is admitting to ,as he is basing his figures on an assumption of 3.25% growth in the economy in about 3 years time which really is cloud cuckoo land.
rearranging the deckchairs on the Titanic comes to mind.
Title: Re: Budget 2009
Post by: Del Boy on 22 April 2009, 19:03:52

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He is introducing a "spite" tax-50% for people who earn over 150k,its just playing to the gallery again,seriously rich people simply send their money out of the country when Labour governments try to take it off them,they always have and they always will.And they may well leave the country at the same time as their money does,so the wealth creators get driven out of the country at the time when they atre needed most.
The situation is much worse than he is admitting to ,as he is basing his figures on an assumption of 3.25% growth in the economy in about 3 years time which really is cloud cuckoo land.
rearranging the deckchairs on the Titanic comes to mind.

Not being funny but just because people have a lot of money doesn't mean they should pay for the governments cock ups!!!

Title: Re: Budget 2009
Post by: albitz on 22 April 2009, 19:10:58
quite agree,its old fashioned left wing politics of envy.doesnt help anyone. :y
Title: Re: Budget 2009
Post by: Del Boy on 22 April 2009, 19:14:04
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quite agree,its old fashioned left wing politics of envy.doesnt help anyone. :y
Thats exacty it  :y
Title: Re: Budget 2009
Post by: LaserLance on 22 April 2009, 21:24:19
Just a thought ......I wonder if the MP'S will be exempt from these new tax bands when it comes down to declareing their expences? Or will they get someway to wriggle out of it  ::) ::) ::)