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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: tunnie on 13 January 2007, 18:30:36
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i was going to wait until tomorrow and post with pics, but too damn excited.
Collected my Senator 24v today, £300 quid, 12 months MOT, new cat back zorst, new heater matix, 2 new back tyres.
Drove it back, and OH MY GOD is it fast...
Waves of torque and power, 30-110 this thing is unbelievable!!
Its faster than my 2.2 by a LONG way, its more comfy, and get this.... if the fuel comp is accurate does better mpg. Averaged 31mpg from Swindon back to Brackley, and i was hoofing it all the way.
All in good nick, arches good, cruise works, original leads still in, original Headunit with 10cd changer in the boot, leather all in good nick, adjustable suspension works.... its in amazing condition.
Still tingling after driving it, so fast and soooo smooth.
Think i have been converted to Senators! :o
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Can't wait for the piccies....
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Can't wait for the piccies....
going to wait till its had a wash to really show it off :y
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Tunnie, you ever driven an Omega 3.0 Elite Auto V6?
Just personal opinion, but I'd say I'd prefer that to a Senator. Although, Senators are cool!
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Welcome to the wonderful world of Senator ownership mate. :D
I guess you are starting to understand why we love them! ;)
James, a good 24v Senator is more fun than the elite... manual MV6 is still top of the pile though.
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driven one of the best V6's around... Jaime's 3.0 MV6 V6 Auto....
Well what can i say? even in standard form... the Senator seams faster. If i chip it, do some little basic jobs, oil and filter, water pump ect... i belive it will crack 170 ;)
So so fast and the torque is amazing, and i aint chipped it yet!
Plus all the electrics work, bar few minors, rear leccy window, passenger washer jet.
All original vents around the scuttle original leads into the dizzy, few other minor probs though. Bit of trim missing on the back bumper (chrome) plastic sill off passenger rear, got the sill just need some replacement clips. Original gold tint alloys, with WHITE centre, this car aint been messed around with. Rear leccy ariel works too thanks to Graham :)
Need the code for the headunit and cd changer, going to take the VIN and log book down to Vx apparently they can get the codes?
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IF you're around on the 18th/19th, I might have to experience this senator in the Flesh, seeing as I will be in brackley... ;D
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Tunnie, good luck with the changer. The Grundig kit was not great, even back then.
I would whip it out and fit a proper headunit. :)
You tried having a proper play in sport mode yet? :)
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gonna bring it round tomorrow then ;)
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IF you're around on the 18th/19th, I might have to experience this senator in the Flesh, seeing as I will be in brackley... ;D
Just checked what days they are, its Thursday and Friday :( - Those are 2 of my 3 days i go to Uni :(
However the weekend should be good? - It needs a little TLC and it will be much better, your welcome to come have a blast in it any time mate, but have to be weekends for a while :y
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gonna bring it round tomorrow then ;)
as a favour to Graham for helping me out today, going to give him a hand collecting a project he has lined up tomorrow. Not sure where it is, but might pop around in the afternoon?
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gonna bring it round tomorrow then ;)
as a favour to Graham for helping me out today, going to give him a hand collecting a project he has lined up tomorrow. Not sure where it is, but might pop around in the afternoon?
:y
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Can't wait for the piccies....
Tunnies right AA.....it needs a wash ;D bit of a leaf/green mould prob going on ;D
Couple of electrical probs tho.....heated seats dont seem to work and its hit and miss if you can get in front passenger door....central locking prob.......but im sure Tunnie can sort them out :y
Looked a good sennie m8....bit of rust but as you said its 15 years old :y
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its cracking for 15 years, central locking working slighly better now, but that still needs work.
Dads going away for a week tomorrow so get to stick in the garage, but starting it up again after comming back. My god is that sound good, no radio working on the way back (wants the code) didn't miss it the Straight 6 sounds amazing...
Seriously thats the best fun i have had driving since i was 17...
The fact that nothing really can touch you 30 - 100 + is a nice feeling, its just the minimal effort needed to get it to 70.
The bus ride from Reading to Swindon was awful, bus was slow, strong smell of fumes inside, had back ache after 15 mins.
Got in a 15 year old Senator... ahh thats nice :)
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no radio working on the way back (wants the code)
Have you phoned the previous owner.....he might have them....as obviously the battery has been off as it was parked up for 2 years? Might save you vx stealer price of getting them :y
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no radio working on the way back (wants the code)
Have you phoned the previous owner.....he might have them....as obviously the battery has been off as it was parked up for 2 years? Might save you vx stealer price of getting them :y
Good point, there was nothing in the glove box. However it still had its original jack kit and stuff in the boot. Got his name i could write to him...
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no radio working on the way back (wants the code)
Have you phoned the previous owner.....he might have them....as obviously the battery has been off as it was parked up for 2 years? Might save you vx stealer price of getting them :y
Good point, there was nothing in the glove box. However it still had its original jack kit and stuff in the boot. Got his name i could write to him...
I meant the bloke you just bought it off.....you had his number didnt you?
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no radio working on the way back (wants the code)
Have you phoned the previous owner.....he might have them....as obviously the battery has been off as it was parked up for 2 years? Might save you vx stealer price of getting them :y
Good point, there was nothing in the glove box. However it still had its original jack kit and stuff in the boot. Got his name i could write to him...
I meant the bloke you just bought it off.....you had his number didnt you?
Yeah but he just bought it about 2 weeks ago, he thought it was in the glove too along with the alloy centre cap key.
What keeps going though my mind, is sell the Omega!! :o :o - And LPG the Senny which can be done for £300 :o
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Tunnie you have made me smile. :) I am so happy for you and the sheer excitement that radiates from your posts about your new baby is catching. [smiley=tekst-toppie.gif]
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Tunnie you have made me smile. :) I am so happy for you and the sheer excitement that radiates from your posts about your new baby is catching. [smiley=tekst-toppie.gif]
Is it that obvious? Mum said i looked happy.
At xmas i went to bed as normal, no excitement what so ever. Last night i was up from 7am went to bed at 1am... nakered. Still could not sleep excited about the Senator.
After a few basic jobs, oil changes ect... anyone is welcome to come have a blast :y
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Tunnie you have made me smile. :) I am so happy for you and the sheer excitement that radiates from your posts about your new baby is catching. [smiley=tekst-toppie.gif]
Is it that obvious? Mum said i looked happy.
At xmas i went to bed as normal, no excitement what so ever. Last night i was up from 7am went to bed at 1am... nakered. Still could not sleep excited about the Senator.
After a few basic jobs, oil changes ect... anyone is welcome to come have a blast :y
YES I can feel you smiling from here ;D ;D
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;D ;D ;D
The Senator must have been one hell of a car in the late 80's early 90's - I can see why people who came from the Senator to the Omega dislike it.
In some areas they seam to have taken a step backwards...
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;D ;D ;D
The Senator must have been one hell of a car in the late 80's early 90's - I can see why people who came from the Senator to the Omega dislike it.
In some areas they seam to have taken a step backwards...
I tried to sell my last 2.0l Omega to colleage's huisband. He had a Senator and couldn't bring himself to pay £5k to lose what he had - so he paid £200 for repairs and still has it 4 years later. Senator owners huh ::)
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Tunnie you have made me smile. :) I am so happy for you and the sheer excitement that radiates from your posts about your new baby is catching. [smiley=tekst-toppie.gif]
Thats what I was thinking! Sounds like a great car.
My mate used to have a Carlton GSI which was really nice (and quick) but the Senny sounds cool too. 8-)
Enjoy :y
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Errr yes......i can vouch that 3.0 15 yo senator moves faster than my 4 yo 2.2 :(
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Hi Tunnie,
great to hear you've got the Sennie and seem very pleased with it :) I was just curious, which route did you go down regarding insurance in the end?
Cheers Jim
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Tunnie.
Yes the Senator was a hell of a car in the early 90's. :)
Even against todays cars it will hold its own.
I bought my first one in 1996, and I have now owned 5. I don't doubt there will be 6th at some point. I just keep going back to them!
Now if only I could find a 4.0 Irmscher job! 8-)
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Hi Tunnie,
great to hear you've got the Sennie and seem very pleased with it :) I was just curious, which route did you go down regarding insurance in the end?
Cheers Jim
Sent a txt message to the seller, and got the Reg number.
Went to Norwich Union, insured the car for a day from 12th @ 12:10PM to 13th @ 12:10 PM
Cost me £10.50, and you can print out a certificate to say your insured inc ase plod stop you. Never been stopped before, but you never know so better to be safe than sorry!
I got the cover from here:
http://www.norwichunion.com/short-term-insurance/index.htm
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Tunnie.
Yes the Senator was a hell of a car in the early 90's. :)
Even against todays cars it will hold its own.
I bought my first one in 1996, and I have now owned 5. I don't doubt there will be 6th at some point. I just keep going back to them!
Now if only I could find a 4.0 Irmscher job! 8-)
Saw one of those on Autobahn stormers, it was said to be the only 4.0 factory fit in the country!
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Tunnie.
Yes the Senator was a hell of a car in the early 90's. :)
Even against todays cars it will hold its own.
I bought my first one in 1996, and I have now owned 5. I don't doubt there will be 6th at some point. I just keep going back to them!
Now if only I could find a 4.0 Irmscher job! 8-)
I would like a Monza....once was offered a 2yo one with 8k on it....for £8k a few years ago....i turned it down....but they are a motor :y
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Errr yes......i can vouch that 3.0 15 yo senator moves faster than my 4 yo 2.2 :(
That 3.0 24v is one of the best engines Vauxhall ever made i think, its about it hit 142k miles still sounds sweet as a nut.
What makes me sad is the guy i bought it from, he picked me up from the station in an L Reg 2.0 Carlton CDX.... that 2.0 sounded smoother and quieter than my 2.2 :(
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Errr yes......i can vouch that 3.0 15 yo senator moves faster than my 4 yo 2.2 :(
That 3.0 24v is one of the best engines Vauxhall ever made i think, its about it hit 142k miles still sounds sweet as a nut.
What makes me sad is the guy i bought it from, picked me up from the station in an L Reg 2.0 Carlton CDX.... that 2.0 sounded smoother and quieter than my 2.2 :(
Your 2.2 has been abused, but you are going the right way to make it purr again :y
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Errr yes......i can vouch that 3.0 15 yo senator moves faster than my 4 yo 2.2 :(
That 3.0 24v is one of the best engines Vauxhall ever made i think, its about it hit 142k miles still sounds sweet as a nut.
What makes me sad is the guy i bought it from, picked me up from the station in an L Reg 2.0 Carlton CDX.... that 2.0 sounded smoother and quieter than my 2.2 :(
Your 2.2 has been abused, but you are going the right way to make it purr again :y
What i would love is that 3.0 24v in my Omega :D
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Errr yes......i can vouch that 3.0 15 yo senator moves faster than my 4 yo 2.2 :(
That 3.0 24v is one of the best engines Vauxhall ever made i think, its about it hit 142k miles still sounds sweet as a nut.
What makes me sad is the guy i bought it from, he picked me up from the station in an L Reg 2.0 Carlton CDX.... that 2.0 sounded smoother and quieter than my 2.2 :(
AND THAT CARLTON ENGINE HAS DONE OVER 200.000 MILES!!!
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Errr yes......i can vouch that 3.0 15 yo senator moves faster than my 4 yo 2.2 :(
That 3.0 24v is one of the best engines Vauxhall ever made i think, its about it hit 142k miles still sounds sweet as a nut.
What makes me sad is the guy i bought it from, he picked me up from the station in an L Reg 2.0 Carlton CDX.... that 2.0 sounded smoother and quieter than my 2.2 :(
AND THAT CARLTON ENGINE HAS DONE OVER 200.000 MILES!!!
i know and my 2.2 has done less than half that!! - think the wrong air filter on it for god knows how long did not help.
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The wrong air filter didn't help, seeing as it didn't fit and was far too small, but does indicate the care the car had before you got it, ie not much. But with the TLC its currently getting, it is getting better
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i think i am going to need to look into getting one of these old vauxhalls and seeig what there capable off ;D
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The wrong air filter didn't help, seeing as it didn't fit and was far too small, but does indicate the care the car had before you got it, ie not much. But with the TLC its currently getting, it is getting better
Sure is, its a lot better than it was.
MarkieC do it!!! - £300 aint a lot for some serious fun! ;)
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The wrong air filter didn't help, seeing as it didn't fit and was far too small, but does indicate the care the car had before you got it, ie not much. But with the TLC its currently getting, it is getting better
Sure is, its a lot better than it was.
MarkieC do it!!! - £300 aint a lot for some serious fun! ;)
;D need to get rid of some of the fleet first!!
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Errr yes......i can vouch that 3.0 15 yo senator moves faster than my 4 yo 2.2 :(
That 3.0 24v is one of the best engines Vauxhall ever made i think, its about it hit 142k miles still sounds sweet as a nut.
What makes me sad is the guy i bought it from, he picked me up from the station in an L Reg 2.0 Carlton CDX.... that 2.0 sounded smoother and quieter than my 2.2 :(
You said my 2.2 was quieter driving than yours.....but outside pretty much the same....but you did mention you had sound proofing missing from under the bonnet.....i think :-/
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Errr yes......i can vouch that 3.0 15 yo senator moves faster than my 4 yo 2.2 :(
That 3.0 24v is one of the best engines Vauxhall ever made i think, its about it hit 142k miles still sounds sweet as a nut.
What makes me sad is the guy i bought it from, he picked me up from the station in an L Reg 2.0 Carlton CDX.... that 2.0 sounded smoother and quieter than my 2.2 :(
You said my 2.2 was quieter driving than yours.....but outside pretty much the same....but you did mention you had sound proofing missing from under the bonnet.....i think :-/
Yeah good chunks of it have rotten away due to previous miss-treatment
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The wrong air filter didn't help, seeing as it didn't fit and was far too small, but does indicate the care the car had before you got it, ie not much. But with the TLC its currently getting, it is getting better
Sure is, its a lot better than it was.
MarkieC do it!!! - £300 aint a lot for some serious fun! ;)
;D need to get rid of some of the fleet first!!
Get rid of a Veccy, you know it makes sense ;) ;D
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Tunnie, good luck with the changer. The Grundig kit was not great, even back then.
I would whip it out and fit a proper headunit. :)
I have to agree having looked at your piccy's it looks like my cars original radio which I have since partially removed as I left the changer in the boot.
Although its got me wondering why fit a senny radio in an omega :-/
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without changing the gear ratio's or raising the revs you wont hit 170mph.
infact even then, im not so sure a senny will have the oomph to do it.
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without changing the gear ratio's or raising the revs you wont hit 170mph.
infact even then, im not so sure a senny will have the oomph to do it.
Unlike that monster of yours masquerading as a "normal" Cossie! ;D
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without changing the gear ratio's or raising the revs you wont hit 170mph.
infact even then, im not so sure a senny will have the oomph to do it.
Unlike that monster of yours masquerading as a "normal" Cossie! ;D
LOL.
It looks normal from the outside ;) If its ready in time, it'll be out to play for you know what you told me about last week ;)
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That 3.0 24v is one of the best engines Vauxhall ever made i think, its about it hit 142k miles still sounds sweet as a nut.
Tunnie.....its an over weight boat anchor of an engine which was past its best in the early 90's which ruins the handling of the car....note a Senator with a V6 in would be more interesting as it would be better balanced.....
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why do i get the feeling Mark's slightly biased towards the V6 then??
IMHO the Straight 6 was better.
1) Definitely more reliable... in both 12 and 24 valve forms
2) more low end grunt and better delivery..... honestly that 4K surge in the V6 is almost as bad as a turbo lag
3) More economical ........ or at least, it is under the right conditions....
4) it can be turned into larger capacity fire breathing monsters with relative ease.
however, i would probably concede that there is more technical elegance about aspects of later engine designs.... , shame it breaks so easily.
all findings based on personal direct experience of having multiple vehicles , covering very high mileage , over 20+ years
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why do i get the feeling Mark's slightly biased towards the V6 then??
IMHO the Straight 6 was better.
1) Definitely more reliable... in both 12 and 24 valve forms
2) more low end grunt and better delivery..... honestly that 4K surge in the V6 is almost as bad as a turbo lag
3) More economical ........ or at least, it is under the right conditions....
4) it can be turned into larger capacity fire breathing monsters with relative ease.
however, i would probably concede that there is more technical elegance about aspects of later engine designs.... , shame it breaks so easily.
all findings based on personal direct experience of having multiple vehicles , covering very high mileage , over 20+ years
Not more reliable, I would say they are on a par here....
Power delivery is pants.....the V6 torque curve is much flatter and more progressive, if yours doesn't feel this way...it aint working right ;)!
Not more economical.....around europe we were getting a displayed 30ish mpg....the rea value was a few mpg less....again...its on a par...
It cant be tuned with ease...it takes big bucks...many think of teh hugely costly Lotus tweak (major change) adn the equaly pricey 3.6 conversion.....not cheap by ay means...
I have always been against tuning anyway....if its not fast enough, its the wrong car.....if the engine doesnt have enough grunt....put a V8 in.....
The straight six has to many bad points
1) Its WAY to heavy.....
2) Its to old fashioned with unreliable dizzy etc...
3) Its WAY to heavy
4) Its much to big.....remember the block did come from the old post war Bedford trucks!
5) Its pwoer delivey is crude.....mainly due to the simple RAM induction system.....
6) It wont meet modern emmision standards....so there was no way it was ever going to survive!
7) Its WAY to heavy.
Its day was gone....it had been stretched out as long as it could from a life expectancy point of view....it was WELL past it and most worryingly....it ruined the handling of the cars it was fitted to.....imagine how good the Lotus Carlton would have been with a V8 sat further back in the engine bay to help weight distribution.....or even the Senator, Monza or GSi Carlton....
Every engine has its day.....the straight six has gone....the V6 is on its way out....the latest daddy on the block is the LS2 or 2.8V6 turbo...