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Title: New mobile phone recommendation required
Post by: TheBoy on 10 May 2009, 10:46:22
I have particular requirements which rules out ABC or XYZ.  Think I have narrowed it down to

Ericsson Xperia X1
HTC Touch Pro


My current phone, a 3 or 4 year old HTC Hermes has been brilliant (apart from Vodafone having no service around my way, despite their claims otherwise), but is starting to get a bit tired.

As well as the phone, cheapest place to get, with or without contract (if on contract, prefer 900Mhz, so I can chuck the SIM in the car)
Title: Re: New mobile phone recommendation required
Post by: KillerWatt on 10 May 2009, 11:16:27
How about an iPhone, or do you specifically want a keyboard that has real buttons?
Title: Re: New mobile phone recommendation required
Post by: ScottieMV6 on 10 May 2009, 11:17:11
Don't really know about where to get them cheapest but my mate has got a HTC touch pro and it is excellent. :y
Title: Re: New mobile phone recommendation required
Post by: Lazydocker on 10 May 2009, 11:17:42
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How about an iPhone, or do you specifically want a keyboard that has real buttons?
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Waiting the reply TB ::) ::) ::)

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Title: Re: New mobile phone recommendation required
Post by: TheBoy on 10 May 2009, 11:26:08
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How about an iPhone, or do you specifically want a keyboard that has real buttons?
a) they are utter shite
b) doesn't do what I need it to do
c) ill thought out piece of crap
d) I won't mention d, as being a new member, you may not be entirely familiar with my views on Apple shite ;)


gayPhone v1 and v2, as well as having piss poor radio reception (a big problem for me, as Voda doesn't work too well here), lacks absolute fundamental basic mobile features:

No MMS
No ability to forward text messages

Apparently both fixed at Apple's 3rd attempt.
Title: Re: New mobile phone recommendation required
Post by: TheBoy on 10 May 2009, 11:26:56
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How about an iPhone, or do you specifically want a keyboard that has real buttons?
a) they are utter shite
b) doesn't do what I need it to do
c) ill thought out piece of crap
d) I won't mention d, as being a new member, you may not be entirely familiar with my views on Apple shite ;)

gayPhone v1 and v2, as well as having piss poor radio reception (a big problem for me, as Voda doesn't work too well here), lacks absolute fundamental basic mobile features:

No MMS
No ability to forward text messages

Apparently both fixed at Apple's 3rd attempt.
Can't help it, like all Apple stuff, they are rather GAY!
Title: Re: New mobile phone recommendation required
Post by: Lazydocker on 10 May 2009, 11:27:58
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How about an iPhone, or do you specifically want a keyboard that has real buttons?
a) they are utter shite
b) doesn't do what I need it to do
c) ill thought out piece of crap
d) I won't mention d, as being a new member, you may not be entirely familiar with my views on Apple shite ;)


gayPhone v1 and v2, as well as having piss poor radio reception (a big problem for me, as Voda doesn't work too well here), lacks absolute fundamental basic mobile features:

No MMS
No ability to forward text messages

Apparently both fixed at Apple's 3rd attempt.

Go on... I'm sure with the rest of rolling about he'll understand it's just a joke! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: New mobile phone recommendation required
Post by: Lazydocker on 10 May 2009, 11:28:58
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How about an iPhone, or do you specifically want a keyboard that has real buttons?
a) they are utter shite
b) doesn't do what I need it to do
c) ill thought out piece of crap
d) I won't mention d, as being a new member, you may not be entirely familiar with my views on Apple shite ;)

gayPhone v1 and v2, as well as having piss poor radio reception (a big problem for me, as Voda doesn't work too well here), lacks absolute fundamental basic mobile features:

No MMS
No ability to forward text messages

Apparently both fixed at Apple's 3rd attempt.
Can't help it, like all Apple stuff, they are rather GAY!

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Knew you wouldn't be able to resist!

Now... What about Blue LED kits for the dashboard? ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: New mobile phone recommendation required
Post by: TheBoy on 10 May 2009, 11:29:02
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Don't really know about where to get them cheapest but my mate has got a HTC touch pro and it is excellent. :y
I am edging towards the Touch Pro, mainly due to better keyboard.


Both are actually made by HTC, which is why they are top of list - HTC seem to be the people who make the best Windows phones...
Title: Re: New mobile phone recommendation required
Post by: TheBoy on 10 May 2009, 11:30:49
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How about an iPhone, or do you specifically want a keyboard that has real buttons?
a) they are utter shite
b) doesn't do what I need it to do
c) ill thought out piece of crap
d) I won't mention d, as being a new member, you may not be entirely familiar with my views on Apple shite ;)

gayPhone v1 and v2, as well as having piss poor radio reception (a big problem for me, as Voda doesn't work too well here), lacks absolute fundamental basic mobile features:

No MMS
No ability to forward text messages

Apparently both fixed at Apple's 3rd attempt.
Can't help it, like all Apple stuff, they are rather GAY!

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Knew you wouldn't be able to resist!

Now... What about Blue LED kits for the dashboard? ::) ::) ::)

OH no, nightmare scenario - what about a car with blue LED dash, a gayPod wired into stereo, and a gayPhone stuck on a vent :o
Title: Re: New mobile phone recommendation required
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 10 May 2009, 11:39:27
my vote goes to HTC.. but it costs an old car money here :(

so I'll go for nokia E71..less than half price of HTC..
Title: Re: New mobile phone recommendation required
Post by: Lazydocker on 10 May 2009, 11:45:51
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How about an iPhone, or do you specifically want a keyboard that has real buttons?
a) they are utter shite
b) doesn't do what I need it to do
c) ill thought out piece of crap
d) I won't mention d, as being a new member, you may not be entirely familiar with my views on Apple shite ;)

gayPhone v1 and v2, as well as having piss poor radio reception (a big problem for me, as Voda doesn't work too well here), lacks absolute fundamental basic mobile features:

No MMS
No ability to forward text messages

Apparently both fixed at Apple's 3rd attempt.
Can't help it, like all Apple stuff, they are rather GAY!

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Knew you wouldn't be able to resist!

Now... What about Blue LED kits for the dashboard? ::) ::) ::)

OH no, nightmare scenario - what about a car with blue LED dash, a gayPod wired into stereo, and a gayPhone stuck on a vent :o
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :y :y :y :y
Title: Re: New mobile phone recommendation required
Post by: Lazydocker on 10 May 2009, 11:48:49
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my vote goes to HTC.. but it costs an old car money here :(

so I'll go for nokia E71..less than half price of HTC..

I've got a Nokia E71... Generally very impressed but there were a few things that Nokia didn't think about. It doesn't have a decent connection manager as standard and the free download for Smartconnect is OK but doesn't do seamless roaming >:( And for some reason it won't connect via WiFi unless there is a mobile signal present too.

There are work arounds for these but it's just a little frustrating! The 3.5G connection is handy for surfing on the move though! :y :y :y
Title: Re: New mobile phone recommendation required
Post by: Plomien on 10 May 2009, 11:59:51
My friend has just got a HTC Touch Pro and loves it even with the odd lockup (new software fix due out any day to fix it)
I have the Nokia 5800 and am finding it really good and easy to use.
depends on what you want to do with the phone at the end of the day
Title: Re: New mobile phone recommendation required
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 10 May 2009, 12:06:19
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my vote goes to HTC.. but it costs an old car money here :(

so I'll go for nokia E71..less than half price of HTC..

I've got a Nokia E71... Generally very impressed but there were a few things that Nokia didn't think about. It doesn't have a decent connection manager as standard and the free download for Smartconnect is OK but doesn't do seamless roaming >:( And for some reason it won't connect via WiFi unless there is a mobile signal present too.

There are work arounds for these but it's just a little frustrating! The 3.5G connection is handy for surfing on the move though! :y :y :y

Thanks for the info :y :y

will go for E71 :y
Title: Re: New mobile phone recommendation required
Post by: Lazydocker on 10 May 2009, 12:13:15
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my vote goes to HTC.. but it costs an old car money here :(

so I'll go for nokia E71..less than half price of HTC..

I've got a Nokia E71... Generally very impressed but there were a few things that Nokia didn't think about. It doesn't have a decent connection manager as standard and the free download for Smartconnect is OK but doesn't do seamless roaming >:( And for some reason it won't connect via WiFi unless there is a mobile signal present too.

There are work arounds for these but it's just a little frustrating! The 3.5G connection is handy for surfing on the move though! :y :y :y

Thanks for the info :y :y

will go for E71 :y

Cem,

Be sure to flash the software before adding any content as there were lots of issues with the first release.

Like I said, there are still issues, and it's been randomly resetting itself over the last week or so (but only when I've got several applications running at once so I think I've been overloading it ::) ::) ::)) but generally I am very impressed.

Oh, and a good third of my posts are made via it :y :y :y
Title: Re: New mobile phone recommendation required
Post by: richardirv on 10 May 2009, 12:29:41
I assume you are looking for a PDA with hardware keyboard!! Touch Pro etc.

If not I can recommend the HTC Touch HD.

If you need the keyboard i'd maybe wait for the Touch Pro 2, will be a massive improvement on the Touch Pro, you'd hope.

I wouldn't go for the X1, I have never used one, just heard its not as good as the HTC Pro etc.

All WM so easily customised though.
Title: Re: New mobile phone recommendation required
Post by: TheBoy on 10 May 2009, 12:58:48
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I assume you are looking for a PDA with hardware keyboard!! Touch Pro etc.

If not I can recommend the HTC Touch HD.

If you need the keyboard i'd maybe wait for the Touch Pro 2, will be a massive improvement on the Touch Pro, you'd hope.

I wouldn't go for the X1, I have never used one, just heard its not as good as the HTC Pro etc.

All WM so easily customised though.
Keyboard is pretty essential, as being over the age of 12, it takes far too long to send a text, an email, or post hear with a mobile keypad.

I've used X1, and it appears to be OK, but, although the thing is made by HTC, the fact it says Sony Ericsson on the badge puts me off.


It HAS to be Windows Mobile to meet my connectivity requirements.
Title: Re: New mobile phone recommendation required
Post by: jimbobmccoy on 10 May 2009, 13:39:31
i have had bothand i sent the htc back and had it replaced by the xperia. i find it faster, bettery lasts longer and the keyboard nicer. if its connecting to a citrix server you need it for there are apps from nokia business for free that let you do this on most new e or n range nokias, which may broaden your choice. my tuppence is from experience go for the sony, even  tho its sont and the pannels are a gimmick, as a base windows mobile phone its better (a+d ca+ //vnd can even be flashed with the htc touch flo shell) tho i found it slow and buggy ("hich i know there are tweaks for by now)
Title: Re: New mobile phone recommendation required
Post by: tunnie on 10 May 2009, 13:47:31
i found the X1 keyboard too small, Touch Pro is the one to go for, although it does not 'feel' as nice in the had as the SPV3100

TouchFlow 3D is quite nice makes sliding through contacts, messages easier.

can't remember if it had the scroller on the left, which i use all the time.

iPhone is limited to O2, and is a rip off in terms of price.

Touch Diamonds are nice, lot cheaper than the Touch Pro, but lacks the keyboard.

Diamond is a LOT thinner too.

I would get one to run Android, but not sure on the exchange capabilities   :-/
Title: Re: New mobile phone recommendation required
Post by: richardirv on 10 May 2009, 14:59:12
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I assume you are looking for a PDA with hardware keyboard!! Touch Pro etc.

If not I can recommend the HTC Touch HD.

If you need the keyboard i'd maybe wait for the Touch Pro 2, will be a massive improvement on the Touch Pro, you'd hope.

I wouldn't go for the X1, I have never used one, just heard its not as good as the HTC Pro etc.

All WM so easily customised though.
Keyboard is pretty essential, as being over the age of 12, it takes far too long to send a text, an email, or post hear with a mobile keypad.

I've used X1, and it appears to be OK, but, although the thing is made by HTC, the fact it says Sony Ericsson on the badge puts me off.


It HAS to be Windows Mobile to meet my connectivity requirements.


I'd try and have a play with a Touch HD, I find the shear size of the screen makes sms, email really fast and easy. especially if you flash to a cooked rom like Duttys V3 from XDA Developers.

If your fixed on having a keyboard i'd definatly wait for Touch Pro 2. Looks like a much nicer device than the Pro.  :y

Shame you didn't mention it at York. You could of had a play with my HD.
Title: Re: New mobile phone recommendation required
Post by: tmx on 10 May 2009, 17:28:40
Ive got an Xperia and its excellent ive always prefered ericsson had a P910 a while ago and this is soo much better! plus its windows mobile not UiQ Symbian so more apps and easy to program for

Functionality i did have to do a firmware upgrade when i first got it as it kept crashing on the video player but f/w upgrade fixed it i also unbranded my'n as i dont like all the orange rubbish!

iPhone may be kool but the xperia blows it away the full keyboard is nice and easy to use i have big fingers and have no trouble using it

Battery life is also good on the Ericsson dad has the HD Touch and his battery doesnt last long if you keep using the phone
Title: Re: New mobile phone recommendation required
Post by: richardirv on 10 May 2009, 17:47:40
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Ive got an Xperia and its excellent ive always prefered ericsson had a P910 a while ago and this is soo much better! plus its windows mobile not UiQ Symbian so more apps and easy to program for

Functionality i did have to do a firmware upgrade when i first got it as it kept crashing on the video player but f/w upgrade fixed it i also unbranded my'n as i dont like all the orange rubbish!

iPhone may be kool but the xperia blows it away the full keyboard is nice and easy to use i have big fingers and have no trouble using it

Battery life is also good on the Ericsson dad has the HD Touch and his battery doesnt last long if you keep using the phone


I find the battery very good for the size and resolution of the screen its powering. But does depend how much use it gets but that goes without saying. I must admit I do carry a spare battery in my wallet at all times but I rarely need to use it.
Title: Re: New mobile phone recommendation required
Post by: HerefordElite on 10 May 2009, 18:58:17
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I have particular requirements which rules out ABC or XYZ.  Think I have narrowed it down to

Ericsson Xperia X1
HTC Touch Pro


My current phone, a 3 or 4 year old HTC Hermes has been brilliant (apart from Vodafone having no service around my way, despite their claims otherwise), but is starting to get a bit tired.

As well as the phone, cheapest place to get, with or without contract (if on contract, prefer 900Mhz, so I can chuck the SIM in the car)


i can't believe i'm reading this :o :o :o

you are considering a sony(gay)ericsson?

are you pissed :D
Title: Re: New mobile phone recommendation required
Post by: VXL V6 on 10 May 2009, 19:01:51
Never yet heard a bad report about any HTC model  :y
Title: Re: New mobile phone recommendation required
Post by: TheBoy on 10 May 2009, 19:13:09
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I have particular requirements which rules out ABC or XYZ.  Think I have narrowed it down to

Ericsson Xperia X1
HTC Touch Pro


My current phone, a 3 or 4 year old HTC Hermes has been brilliant (apart from Vodafone having no service around my way, despite their claims otherwise), but is starting to get a bit tired.

As well as the phone, cheapest place to get, with or without contract (if on contract, prefer 900Mhz, so I can chuck the SIM in the car)


i can't believe i'm reading this :o :o :o

you are considering a sony(gay)ericsson?

are you pissed :D
Fortunately, Sony Ericsson didn't make it, its rebadged HTC, but did have a load of input into its design, which is why I'm probably going for the Touch Pro
Title: Re: New mobile phone recommendation required
Post by: HerefordElite on 10 May 2009, 19:14:06
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Never yet heard a bad report about any HTC model  :y


the site guys at work have all got touch diamonds from bt business, well i say have I mean HAD.

Battery is awful aparently so they've all sent them back :o
Title: Re: New mobile phone recommendation required
Post by: TheBoy on 10 May 2009, 19:17:23
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Never yet heard a bad report about any HTC model  :y


the site guys at work have all got touch diamonds from bt business, well i say have I mean HAD.

Battery is awful aparently so they've all sent them back :o
Depends what you compare it to - a smartphone is never going to last as long battery wise as, say, nokia 6310...
Title: Re: New mobile phone recommendation required
Post by: richardirv on 11 May 2009, 06:31:26
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Never yet heard a bad report about any HTC model  :y


the site guys at work have all got touch diamonds from bt business, well i say have I mean HAD.

Battery is awful aparently so they've all sent them back :o

Yeah I had a Diamond before my HD, The Original 900mAh battery is not very good especially for business, You can buy a 1340mAh Battery which comes with a new back cover and makes the device a few mm thicker, then the battery is acceptable. Still not as good as my HD which despite only having a 1340mAh battery is much more efficient and lasts much longer.  :y
Title: Re: New mobile phone recommendation required
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 11 May 2009, 09:12:08
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my vote goes to HTC.. but it costs an old car money here :(

so I'll go for nokia E71..less than half price of HTC..

I've got a Nokia E71... Generally very impressed but there were a few things that Nokia didn't think about. It doesn't have a decent connection manager as standard and the free download for Smartconnect is OK but doesn't do seamless roaming >:( And for some reason it won't connect via WiFi unless there is a mobile signal present too.

There are work arounds for these but it's just a little frustrating! The 3.5G connection is handy for surfing on the move though! :y :y :y

Thanks for the info :y :y

will go for E71 :y

Cem,

Be sure to flash the software before adding any content as there were lots of issues with the first release.

Like I said, there are still issues, and it's been randomly resetting itself over the last week or so (but only when I've got several applications running at once so I think I've been overloading it ::) ::) ::)) but generally I am very impressed.

Oh, and a good third of my posts are made via it :y :y :y

 :y :y

Title: Re: New mobile phone recommendation required
Post by: feeutfo on 11 May 2009, 10:22:55
you want an n95 J you know you do. Youll just have to learn some new tech and get used to texting...:-)

Or stand there with a gay little stylus tapping away.... (Snigger)  ;)

But seriously what are your connectivity issues/requirements out of interest?
Title: Re: New mobile phone recommendation required
Post by: richardirv on 11 May 2009, 10:33:06
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you want an n95 J you know you do. Youll just have to learn some new tech and get used to texting...:-)

Or stand there with a gay little stylus tapping away.... (Snigger)  ;)

But seriously what are your connectivity issues/requirements out of interest?


Oh no!! N95, Everyone I know who has had an N Series Nokia has had trouble with it, Crashing and general crapness! Sorry!

You don't need a stylus to text either, got a stylus on my HD and I never use it.  ;)


Just to add, For TB, The Pro 2 is due Early June 2009 - http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/htc-touch-pro2-is-awesome-in-ways-the-touch-pro-never-could-be/
Title: Re: New mobile phone recommendation required
Post by: TheBoy on 11 May 2009, 11:38:03
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you want an n95 J you know you do. Youll just have to learn some new tech and get used to texting...:-)

Or stand there with a gay little stylus tapping away.... (Snigger)  ;)

But seriously what are your connectivity issues/requirements out of interest?
foreskin ear warmers.

and the stylus thing is exactly why i want a keyboard
Title: Re: New mobile phone recommendation required
Post by: richardirv on 11 May 2009, 12:52:54
So have we helped in your decision making then TB? What you leaning towards?
Title: Re: New mobile phone recommendation required
Post by: TheBoy on 11 May 2009, 12:54:27
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So have we helped in your decision making then TB? What you leaning towards?
Touch Pro on its way....

It was only ever going to be the Touch Pro or the SOny Ericsson, and the Sony name turned me away from that model...
Title: Re: New mobile phone recommendation required
Post by: richardirv on 11 May 2009, 12:56:03
Fair Enough, Suprised you didn't fancy the Pro 2 though being that its only a few weeks away. Still the better choice over the X1 I think.  :y
Title: Re: New mobile phone recommendation required
Post by: TheBoy on 11 May 2009, 13:01:44
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Fair Enough, Suprised you didn't fancy the Pro 2 though being that its only a few weeks away. Still the better choice over the X1 I think.  :y
Can't wait a few weeks, which undoubtly be delayed in true HTC style...
Title: Re: New mobile phone recommendation required
Post by: richardirv on 11 May 2009, 13:03:28
Yeah you got a point, do tend to be delayed. Hope you like the Pro Then!!  :y

The only thing I'd like to have on my HD that the Pro Has is TV-Out!!  :'(
Title: Re: New mobile phone recommendation required
Post by: TheBoy on 11 May 2009, 13:05:36
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Yeah you got a point, do tend to be delayed. Hope you like the Pro Then!!  :y

The only thing I'd like to have on my HD that the Pro Has is TV-Out!!  :'(
Don't think I'd ever use the TV-Out...
Title: Re: New mobile phone recommendation required
Post by: richardirv on 11 May 2009, 13:10:14
Yeah think i'd only ever use it once a blue moon but something i'd still like to have.  :y
Title: Re: New mobile phone recommendation required
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 11 May 2009, 13:17:38
I find this interesting

http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_touch_diamond_vs_samsung_i900_omnia-review-262p6.php
Title: Re: New mobile phone recommendation required
Post by: feeutfo on 12 May 2009, 01:01:09
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you want an n95 J you know you do. Youll just have to learn some new tech and get used to texting...:-)

Or stand there with a gay little stylus tapping away.... (Snigger)  ;)

But seriously what are your connectivity issues/requirements out of interest?
foreskin ear warmers.

and the stylus thing is exactly why i want a keyboard

Reminds me of my favourite poem. To be recited when leaving any pub.
The time has come, the angel said,
To pull your forskin over your head. :-)

Bloody keyboard indeed.

Crashing thing was true enough up til about a year ago... In my experience, anyway....