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Title: Clarke/Machine Mart tool
Post by: Andy B on 12 May 2009, 12:10:43
I need to cut a few concrete paving slabs and as I only have a small 4" grinder that it doesn't seem like yu can get stone discs for I was considering buying one of these (http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/cag232-9in-angle-grinder-230v/path/14-angle-grinders-polishers-accessories) I know it's cheap, I normally buy names, but it won't get used very often. It put me off a little when I've just phone Machine Mart and the lad said, 'Oh! One of them, you're not using it proffesionally are you?'
Anyone got anything good or bad to say about them? Or suggest a reasonable 8"/9"/10" grinder for occasional use.
TIA
Title: Re: Clarke/Machine Mart tool
Post by: CaptainZok on 12 May 2009, 12:25:08
Doesn't the famous beans manufacturer have one you could borrow?
Title: Re: Clarke/Machine Mart tool
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 12 May 2009, 12:27:12
You can get stone cutting discs for 4 inch grinders....you can even get diamond ones! I use them for re-finishing the chamfer on to clay pavers after cutting.

I have a cheap 9 inch grinder which gets used for nothing more than stone/concrete/brick cutting and its been great. Its lasted long enough to wear out 2 diamond blades!
Title: Re: Clarke/Machine Mart tool
Post by: Ghost on 12 May 2009, 12:27:35
Hi, I cant complane about the no name tools from M/mart. I would rather have a no name as for a proper trade name. my father in law has a grinder like that and he loves it. Cuts threw everything. just get a decent quality disk. as you only use it on a hobby basis its ok. ;) ( sorry about the spelling )
Title: Re: Clarke/Machine Mart tool
Post by: mantahatch on 12 May 2009, 12:41:51
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I need to cut a few concrete paving slabs and as I only have a small 4" grinder that it doesn't seem like yu can get stone discs for I was considering buying one of these (http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/cag232-9in-angle-grinder-230v/path/14-angle-grinders-polishers-accessories) I know it's cheap, I normally buy names, but it won't get used very often. It put me off a little when I've just phone Machine Mart and the lad said, 'Oh! One of them, you're not using it proffesionally are you?'
Anyone got anything good or bad to say about them? Or suggest a reasonable 8"/9"/10" grinder for occasional use.
TIA


The only problem I can foresee is the depth of cut with a 4inch angle grinder. Shame you are not closer to me you could borrow my 12 inch petrol disc cutter.
You have to remember the discs wear down quite quickly when cutting, I doubt a 4inch grinder will have more than about 1.75inch depth with a new blade in it..

HTH

Mike
Title: Re: Clarke/Machine Mart tool
Post by: Andy B on 12 May 2009, 14:24:48
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Doesn't the famous beans manufacturer have one you could borrow?

There's probably loads locked up in personal lockers, but it's not as easy to borrow stuff here. The famous cough sweet manufacturer though was great for borrowing stuff from ...... sometimes on a permanent basis too.  :y
Title: Re: Clarke/Machine Mart tool
Post by: Andy B on 12 May 2009, 14:26:28
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I need to cut a few concrete paving slabs and as I only have a small 4" grinder that it doesn't seem like yu can get stone discs for I was considering buying one of these (http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/cag232-9in-angle-grinder-230v/path/14-angle-grinders-polishers-accessories) I know it's cheap, I normally buy names, but it won't get used very often. It put me off a little when I've just phone Machine Mart and the lad said, 'Oh! One of them, you're not using it proffesionally are you?'
Anyone got anything good or bad to say about them? Or suggest a reasonable 8"/9"/10" grinder for occasional use.
TIA


The only problem I can foresee is the depth of cut with a 4inch angle grinder. Shame you are not closer to me you could borrow my 12 inch petrol disc cutter.
You have to remember the discs wear down quite quickly when cutting, I doubt a 4inch grinder will have more than about 1.75inch depth with a new blade in it..

HTH

Mike

That what I thought too. I know it's bloody hard work using a 4" metal disc on a concrete gravel board.
Title: Re: Clarke/Machine Mart tool
Post by: Andy B on 12 May 2009, 14:31:43
I think I'll go for the cheapo Clacke grinder then!
Thanks  :y
Title: Re: Clarke/Machine Mart tool
Post by: ians on 12 May 2009, 14:36:16
My 4" B&D wasn't deep enough for normal paving slabs so I ended up buying a Makita 9" (you know you want one... ::)).  Its a monster.   The torque on startup is incredible - first time I started it up it nearly twisted out of my hands.   Great demonstration of the gyroscope effect.

If its really for a one time use, consider the really cheap stuff from Screwfix, Wickes etc.  Or Axminster tools have a decent one brand range (the white ones).
Sounds like MM have had a few back..
Title: Re: Clarke/Machine Mart tool
Post by: ScottieMV6 on 12 May 2009, 15:09:37
Andy. I have got a cheapo circular saw you can borrow but you would need to get a suitable blade as I don't have one for concrete.

Might be easier than a grinder.  :y
Title: Re: Clarke/Machine Mart tool
Post by: Andy B on 12 May 2009, 15:13:24
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Andy. I have got a cheapo circular saw you can borrow but you would need to get a suitable blade as I don't have one for concrete.

Might be easier than a grinder.  :y

Thanks Scottie, but I think I'll go for the grinder.
Title: Re: Clarke/Machine Mart tool
Post by: Andy B on 12 May 2009, 15:17:17
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...... I ended up buying a Makita 9" (you know you want one... ::)).  Its a monster.   The torque on startup is incredible - first time I started it up it nearly twisted out of my hands.    .....

Sounds like the one we had at Halls Sweets. I'd bought a 10" blade thinking that was the one I needed, it was too big. :( Needless to say I took the guard off till it had worn down a bit  :-? I now have a little scar on my shin where the torque spun it before I'd got a proper hold of it ....  :-?  :-?  :-?complacency etc ....  :-[..
Title: Re: Clarke/Machine Mart tool
Post by: LFF64 on 12 May 2009, 21:43:40
Couldnt you hire one just to do what you need to do  :y
Title: Re: Clarke/Machine Mart tool
Post by: Turk on 12 May 2009, 22:20:17
What think ye of this ?

http://www.jmldirect.com/Exakt-Saw-PE2299/

Got a fair bit of flooring to lay and this sounds quite good.
Title: Re: Clarke/Machine Mart tool
Post by: Andy B on 12 May 2009, 23:08:25
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Couldnt you hire one just to do what you need to do  :y


I think the cost of the cheap grinders makes it worth buying rather than hireing.  ;)
Title: Re: Clarke/Machine Mart tool
Post by: Bent valve on 12 May 2009, 23:42:32
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You can get stone cutting discs for 4 inch grinders....you can even get diamond ones! I use them for re-finishing the chamfer on to clay pavers after cutting.
I have a cheap 9 inch grinder which gets used for nothing more than stone/concrete/brick cutting and its been great. Its lasted long enough to wear out 2 diamond blades!
People often confuse 4" grinders with 4 1/2" grinders, which are the norm.

 All manner of discs are available for 4 1/2" (115mm) grinders, but 4" discs are hard to obtain nowadays
Title: Re: Clarke/Machine Mart tool
Post by: Andy B on 12 May 2009, 23:46:54
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 All manner of discs are available for 4 1/2" (115mm) grinders, but 4" discs are hard to obtain nowadays

I suppose I should have been a bit more selective with my redundancy package when I left Halls sweets!!!  ::)  ::)  ::)  :y :y :y
Title: Re: Clarke/Machine Mart tool
Post by: eddie on 13 May 2009, 05:18:39
Dont forget Goggles/face mask and levver gloves! Keep a towel and a bucket  of ice nearby in case you cut off a finger or two ::)

AND watch where the 'Flak' is going, a guy who was cutting a sill for me ruined a new double glaze unit by embedding bits  of concrete in the glass! >:(

eddie
Title: Re: Clarke/Machine Mart tool
Post by: Andy B on 13 May 2009, 08:17:12
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Dont forget Goggles/face mask and levver gloves!  ......

I've loads of PPE!!  ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Clarke/Machine Mart tool
Post by: Martin_1962 on 13 May 2009, 09:40:56
Petrol are good as you can leave them in the boot of your car and park where you want. ;D
Title: Re: Clarke/Machine Mart tool
Post by: Andy B on 13 May 2009, 09:45:25
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Petrol are good as you can leave them in the boot of your car and park where you want. ;D


Wouldn't a battery grinder be a bit more convenient?  ::) :y :y
Title: Re: Clarke/Machine Mart tool
Post by: Martin_1962 on 13 May 2009, 10:20:16
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Petrol are good as you can leave them in the boot of your car and park where you want. ;D


Wouldn't a battery grinder be a bit more convenient?  ::) :y :y


Hopefully