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Title: High Mileage
Post by: AndyVXR300 on 12 May 2009, 08:23:51
Found this on ebay 322,000 miles in total

Engine and box replaced after 266,000

Who was worried about high mileage cars  ;D ;D ;D ;D


http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2001-VAUXHALL-OMEGA-CD-AUTO-SILVER_W0QQitemZ280344619032QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAutomobiles_UK?hash=item280344619032&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2|65%3A10|39%3A1|240%3A1318|301%3A1|293%3A1|294%3A50
Title: Re: High Mileage
Post by: dbug on 12 May 2009, 08:27:45
Just run in ????  :o :o :o
Title: Re: High Mileage
Post by: Omega man 2 on 12 May 2009, 09:04:36
Looks alright though :o

Wouldn't like to see it from underneath ::)
Title: Re: High Mileage
Post by: mantahatch on 12 May 2009, 09:11:02
Hmmmm local to me, and I think I have seen this car on the road. The taxi behind it should give us a clue as to it's previous use.

Mike
Title: Re: High Mileage
Post by: NaughtyNigel on 12 May 2009, 09:45:33
.... All of which proves my theory that if you keep the engine oil warm the engine will last much longer.  :)

NN
Title: Re: High Mileage
Post by: mantahatch on 12 May 2009, 10:29:48
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.... All of which proves my theory that if you keep the engine oil warm the engine will last much longer.  :)

NN


I am not saying it is is a problem, in fact if it is the car I think it it is, it mainly did the airport runs. So should really be in a fair to good condition.

Mike
Title: Re: High Mileage
Post by: platty on 12 May 2009, 10:30:47
People worry about the engine mileage, but that doesn't seem to be an issue with the Omega.

I would want to be doing a very thorough check of the running gear after 322k - should be fine if well serviced, but who knows?
Title: Re: High Mileage
Post by: Iain on 12 May 2009, 11:47:24
Clocks will fail before the engine does!!

I was talking to a Taxi driver recently who had a black facelift 2.2 DTi
469,500 miles on it!!
Told me that the odometer went 399,999 > nothing!
As it turned to 400k the whole instument panel just switched itself off,
Speedo,rev counter,temp and petrol gauges all went off as if he had turned the key!
He sourced another set of clocks,plugged it in....bingo,everything was fine!
A nice car it is too.....the only visable sign of high mileage was the 'white' climate buttons! ;D
Title: Re: High Mileage
Post by: NaughtyNigel on 12 May 2009, 11:53:51
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Clocks will fail before the engine does!!

I was talking to a Taxi driver recently who had a black facelift 2.2 DTi
469,500 miles on it!!
Told me that the odometer went 399,999 > nothing!
As it turned to 400k the whole instument panel just switched itself off,
Speedo,rev counter,temp and petrol gauges all went off as if he had turned the key!
He sourced another set of clocks,plugged it in....bingo,everything was fine!
A nice car it is too.....the only visable sign of high mileage was the 'white' climate buttons! ;D

Very true. I had a Cavalier 1.6 on which the speedometer went badly out of calibration after about 60,000 miles.

I had thought it was loosing power, as it was struggling at anything much above 90 MPH. Then I overtook a marked Police car doing (what I thought was) 70 MPH, only to be pulled over for doing 88 MPH.

I managed to persuade Plod that the clock was faulty, and he agreed to do precisely 70 MPH so I could check my clock - it showed 53 MPH! :)

NN
Title: Re: High Mileage
Post by: tunnie on 12 May 2009, 11:54:28
and its a 4 pot petrol  :)  :y
Title: Re: High Mileage
Post by: Andy B on 12 May 2009, 11:59:15
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..... and he agreed to do precisely 70 MPH so I could check my clock - it showed 53 MPH! :)

NN


before he booked you for haveing a faulty vehicle?  ::)  ::)

 ;)  ;)  ;)  ;)  ;)

I got stopped on my bike (CD175 a very long time ago) for speeding, my clock was showing 100mph while I was stopped .... it had only just done it - Honest! ... the copper just sent me on my way suggesting I get it fixed pronto!! Where's that speed camera vs proper copper thread??  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: High Mileage
Post by: NaughtyNigel on 12 May 2009, 12:08:22
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..... and he agreed to do precisely 70 MPH so I could check my clock - it showed 53 MPH! :)

NN


before he booked you for haveing a faulty vehicle?  ::)  ::)

 ;)  ;)  ;)  ;)  ;)

I got stopped on my bike (CD175 a very long time ago) for speeding, my clock was showing 100mph while I was stopped .... it had only just done it - Honest! ... the copper just sent me on my way suggesting I get it fixed pronto!! Where's that speed camera vs proper copper thread??  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D

 ;D ;D ;D ;D

100 MPH on a CD175?  :o That would have needed a very steep cliff and a strong following wind. And you could only do it in the dry during daylight hours as the brakes were crap in the wet and the headlight was like a candle in a brown bottle.  ;)

Reminds me of when a group of us were stopped on the Guildford bypass, and told off for doing 85 MPH. My friend, who was riding a BSA C15 replied, 'come off it, we were doing well over the ton', to whch Plod replied, 'as you wish sonny'.  8-)

NN

Title: Re: High Mileage
Post by: Andy B on 12 May 2009, 12:17:53
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100 MPH on a CD175?  :o That would have needed a very steep cliff and a strong following wind. And you could only do it in the dry during daylight hours as the brakes were crap in the wet and the headlight was like a candle in a brown bottle.  ;) ......

You've ridden one then!!  ;D  ;D  ;D I think I managed about 65 mph, lying as low on the tank as I could ..... which was probably lower than I could mange now  ;)
I think it was 100 ....... it was showing as fast as the clock would read.
Title: Re: High Mileage
Post by: NaughtyNigel on 12 May 2009, 14:49:53
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100 MPH on a CD175?  :o That would have needed a very steep cliff and a strong following wind. And you could only do it in the dry during daylight hours as the brakes were crap in the wet and the headlight was like a candle in a brown bottle.  ;) ......

You've ridden one then!!  ;D  ;D  ;D I think I managed about 65 mph, lying as low on the tank as I could ..... which was probably lower than I could mange now  ;)
I think it was 100 ....... it was showing as fast as the clock would read.

No, I had a CB125 (single) which could just about make 70 MPH on a good day. Mine had the drum brake on the front which was not too bad when it was dry, but if it got water inside was lethal. And the 6 volt headlight .....  :(

I then got a 400 four, which was altogether better, although it took a cast iron front brake disk, Cibie headlight and Dunlop tyres to make it safe in the wet and at night.

Edit: I should add that I eventually regressed to a 250 LC Yamaha, followed by a 350 N2 YPVS, which I still have. In terms of sheer grin factor those two bikes are unbeatable.  ;D

Happy days.  :)

NN
Title: Re: High Mileage
Post by: Del Boy on 12 May 2009, 20:15:31
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People worry about the engine mileage, but that doesn't seem to be an issue with the Omega.

I would want to be doing a very thorough check of the running gear after 322k - should be fine if well serviced, but who knows?
I like you avatar  :y
Title: Re: High Mileage
Post by: STMO123 on 12 May 2009, 20:19:04
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.... All of which proves my theory that if you keep the engine oil warm the engine will last much longer.  :)

NN

National express coaches, which are up and down the motorway all day, and usually have their engines left running in between, only need servicing every 100,000 miles :y
Title: Re: High Mileage
Post by: AndyVXR300 on 12 May 2009, 20:30:32
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.... All of which proves my theory that if you keep the engine oil warm the engine will last much longer.  :)

NN

National express coaches, which are up and down the motorway all day, and usually have their engines left running in between, only need servicing every 100,000 miles :y


If only my car's had service intervals like that i would be so much better off in the pocket :y
Title: Re: High Mileage
Post by: STMO123 on 12 May 2009, 20:34:55
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.... All of which proves my theory that if you keep the engine oil warm the engine will last much longer.  :)

NN

National express coaches, which are up and down the motorway all day, and usually have their engines left running in between, only need servicing every 100,000 miles :y


If only my car's had service intervals like that i would be so much better off in the pocket :y

At least your car will probably see 100,000...doubt mine will :(
Title: Re: High Mileage
Post by: Del Boy on 12 May 2009, 20:37:44
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.... All of which proves my theory that if you keep the engine oil warm the engine will last much longer.  :)

NN

National express coaches, which are up and down the motorway all day, and usually have their engines left running in between, only need servicing every 100,000 miles :y


If only my car's had service intervals like that i would be so much better off in the pocket :y

At least your car will probably see 100,000...doubt mine will :(
Why? My mate bought an 08 reg 1.6 VVT Astra Club nice little engine that revs well too. What up with yours mate?
Title: Re: High Mileage
Post by: STMO123 on 12 May 2009, 20:39:48
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.... All of which proves my theory that if you keep the engine oil warm the engine will last much longer.  :)

NN

National express coaches, which are up and down the motorway all day, and usually have their engines left running in between, only need servicing every 100,000 miles :y


If only my car's had service intervals like that i would be so much better off in the pocket :y

At least your car will probably see 100,000...doubt mine will :(
Why? My mate bought an 08 reg 1.6 VVT Astra Club nice little engine that revs well too. What up with yours mate?

The astra is now the wife's Liam. I've got a meriva. 75,000 and starting to sound a bit 'tired'.
Title: Re: High Mileage
Post by: Del Boy on 12 May 2009, 20:56:50
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.... All of which proves my theory that if you keep the engine oil warm the engine will last much longer.  :)

NN

National express coaches, which are up and down the motorway all day, and usually have their engines left running in between, only need servicing every 100,000 miles :y


If only my car's had service intervals like that i would be so much better off in the pocket :y

At least your car will probably see 100,000...doubt mine will :(
Why? My mate bought an 08 reg 1.6 VVT Astra Club nice little engine that revs well too. What up with yours mate?

The astra is now the wife's Liam. I've got a meriva. 75,000 and starting to sound a bit 'tired'.
Next door but one had one of them for 2 months and sold it after a lot of niggly problems. Not good cars by all accounts they got a 55 reg focus now.
Title: Re: High Mileage
Post by: NaughtyNigel on 12 May 2009, 23:07:11
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.... All of which proves my theory that if you keep the engine oil warm the engine will last much longer.  :)

NN

National express coaches, which are up and down the motorway all day, and usually have their engines left running in between, only need servicing every 100,000 miles :y

Some large engines have their oil changed whilst they are actually running. And some of the biggest engines are two stroke diesels. That way they don't need a gearbox to go astern - they just stop the engines and run them backwards.

Many big diesels also use copressed air start, as it would be impossible to start them with an electric motor.

And, for what its worth, the biggest single engine at present produces some 85,000 BHP at around 100 RPM. That is serious bottom end torque!

I'm sad aren't I?  :)

NN
Title: Re: High Mileage
Post by: Omega man 2 on 12 May 2009, 23:40:51
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.... All of which proves my theory that if you keep the engine oil warm the engine will last much longer.  :)

NN

National express coaches, which are up and down the motorway all day, and usually have their engines left running in between, only need servicing every 100,000 miles :y

Some large engines have their oil changed whilst they are actually running. And some of the biggest engines are two stroke diesels. That way they don't need a gearbox to go astern - they just stop the engines and run them backwards.

Many big diesels also use copressed air start, as it would be impossible to start them with an electric motor.

And, for what its worth, the biggest single engine at present produces some 85,000 BHP at around 100 RPM. That is serious bottom end torque!

I'm sad aren't I?  :)

NN

Can't figure that one out :-?
Title: Re: High Mileage
Post by: Andy B on 12 May 2009, 23:42:32
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Many big diesels also use copressed air start, as it would be impossible to start them with an electric motor.
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Grey Funnel line had air start starters for the diesel driven gennies, a  reliable reserve of stored energy that could be piped up from various locations, for stating when you're in the dark!! I don't think that it was anything to do with an electric starter not being capable.
On the grand scale of diesels our 2 gennies weren't particularly big, but he starters were probably the size of an old style dustbin!
Title: Re: High Mileage
Post by: Andy B on 12 May 2009, 23:45:15
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Can't figure that one out :-?


Drain to min ....... fill to max. Leave it a day/whatever, drain to min ..... fill to max. A bit like an old car with an oil leak!   ;)  ;)
Title: Re: High Mileage
Post by: Martin_1962 on 13 May 2009, 09:29:56
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100 MPH on a CD175?  :o That would have needed a very steep cliff and a strong following wind. And you could only do it in the dry during daylight hours as the brakes were crap in the wet and the headlight was like a candle in a brown bottle.  ;) ......

You've ridden one then!!  ;D  ;D  ;D I think I managed about 65 mph, lying as low on the tank as I could ..... which was probably lower than I could mange now  ;)
I think it was 100 ....... it was showing as fast as the clock would read.

No, I had a CB125 (single) which could just about make 70 MPH on a good day. Mine had the drum brake on the front which was not too bad when it was dry, but if it got water inside was lethal. And the 6 volt headlight .....  :(

I then got a 400 four, which was altogether better, although it took a cast iron front brake disk, Cibie headlight and Dunlop tyres to make it safe in the wet and at night.

Edit: I should add that I eventually regressed to a 250 LC Yamaha, followed by a 350 N2 YPVS, which I still have. In terms of sheer grin factor those two bikes are unbeatable.  ;D

Happy days.  :)

NN


I had a GP100, front brake was brilliant in the dry, OK in the wet - but then you do not brake hard in the wet, tyres were not grippy, lights were pathetic - ok maybe not pathetic but dangerously poor, but it would do 80mph ;D
Title: Re: High Mileage
Post by: Martin_1962 on 13 May 2009, 09:36:26
Mileage - I think some High Speed Trains have managed 7 million miles
Title: Re: High Mileage
Post by: NaughtyNigel on 13 May 2009, 11:24:14
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Can't figure that one out :-?


Drain to min ....... fill to max. Leave it a day/whatever, drain to min ..... fill to max. A bit like an old car with an oil leak!   ;)  ;)

A bit like that. But many of these engines use a dry sump lubrication system, (where the lube oil is kept in separate tanks), so it is easy to switch tanks whilst the engines are running.

On that subject, I have to say the Omega often reminds me of a ship. Apart from bunkering for fuel, (always a long process), it has a large Fwd Ballast Tank (AKA the washer bottle), and requires a large berth. :)

NN
Title: Re: High Mileage
Post by: NaughtyNigel on 13 May 2009, 11:28:38
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Mileage - I think some High Speed Trains have managed 7 million miles

London to Edinburgh and back twice a day = 1,600 miles, x 364 = 580,000 miles a year. Some of them have now been running for thirty years so 7 million miles is probably a very conservative estimate.

The original V12 Paxmans fitted to the HST sets were some of the nicest sounding engines ever built, and only now are being replaced by new 10 cylinder MTUs, which sound horible, but are much more powerful and fuel efficient.

NN
Title: Re: High Mileage
Post by: The Barge Captain on 13 May 2009, 13:10:05
Going back to the bikes, I had a CD200 which I once rode from Bristol to the Magna Carta rally which was somewhere off of the M11.
70 MPH was about top speed with tent etc strapped to the back.
Took forBluudyever.
Had a self lubricating chain though - if a bit too much oil was added to the sump, then reved to about 8000 rpm it would blow the excess out of the breather and over the chain  :y
Title: Re: High Mileage
Post by: Markie on 13 May 2009, 13:59:40
I`ve just bought a 2000 plate V6 CDX with full LPG system and its got 206,000 miles on it.

Wouldnt know it unless you check clocks runs pretty smooth and i have seen worse looking  :-X
Title: Re: High Mileage
Post by: Martin_1962 on 13 May 2009, 14:10:46
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Mileage - I think some High Speed Trains have managed 7 million miles

London to Edinburgh and back twice a day = 1,600 miles, x 364 = 580,000 miles a year. Some of them have now been running for thirty years so 7 million miles is probably a very conservative estimate.

The original V12 Paxmans fitted to the HST sets were some of the nicest sounding engines ever built, and only now are being replaced by new 10 cylinder MTUs, which sound horible, but are much more powerful and fuel efficient.

NN


Very little extra power - TBH I prefer the VP185 for replacement lumps

I guessed at 7 m as average annual mileage is about 1/4 million
Title: Re: High Mileage
Post by: NaughtyNigel on 13 May 2009, 14:17:51
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Mileage - I think some High Speed Trains have managed 7 million miles

London to Edinburgh and back twice a day = 1,600 miles, x 364 = 580,000 miles a year. Some of them have now been running for thirty years so 7 million miles is probably a very conservative estimate.

The original V12 Paxmans fitted to the HST sets were some of the nicest sounding engines ever built, and only now are being replaced by new 10 cylinder MTUs, which sound horible, but are much more powerful and fuel efficient.

NN


Very little extra power - TBH I prefer the VP185 for replacement lumps

I guessed at 7 m as average annual mileage is about 1/4 million

I believe the MTUs have been chipped to reduce their maximum output to just over 3,000 BHP, thereby retaining the original alternators and traction motors. (The MTU is rated at about 4,000 BHP otherwise).

I have often wondered how a Paxman would run in a car, but the load on the front axle would be a bit excessive, and you would need a periscope to see over it!  ;D

NN