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Title: I need advice please....
Post by: BERTIECBX550 on 02 June 2009, 13:31:56
My rottie tysie has been unwell all weekend  and i took her to the PDSA today as i was very worried about her and they`ve just come back and told me she has diabetes and that she is very unwell at the moment......Now the vet wants a decision on wether i want her "Put to sleep" or the other option try to treat the diabetes...Now this vet has scared the life outa me with the way he has told me tysie`s condition...Does anybody have any experiance with this disease in dogs??? :'( :'(
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Post by: webby23 on 02 June 2009, 13:41:53
No experience of diabetes in dogs mate, but if it were our dog we would try first to work at treating the diabetes or at least learning to cope with it......

Dont kill a dog unless there is no other way forward

 :(
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Post by: miggy on 02 June 2009, 14:03:33
Please Please go for the treatment, i treated my dog for several years for the same and she had a wonderful active life, if you can, please give it a go.
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Post by: miggy on 02 June 2009, 14:08:06
The vet will give you all the support you need, i had to alter my dogs diet, regular excersise, the only thing that put me off at first was having to inject her with insulin, after 3 goes it did not bother me.

give it a try, you will be amazed at how well you adjust.
Title: Re: I need advice please....
Post by: crazyjoetavola on 02 June 2009, 14:30:26
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My rottie tysie has been unwell all weekend  and i took her to the PDSA today as i was very worried about her and they`ve just come back and told me she has diabetes and that she is very unwell at the moment......Now the vet wants a decision on wether i want her "Put to sleep" or the other option try to treat the diabetes...Now this vet has scared the life outa me with the way he has told me tysie`s condition...Does anybody have any experiance with this disease in dogs??? :'( :'(


Bertie, drop ali a pm, she might be able to help :y  Sorry to hear about Tysie :( :(
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Post by: HolyCount on 02 June 2009, 15:18:14
Sorry to hear that news mate -- but you have got to give it a try. Dunno about dogs -- but a friend had a diabetic cat once .... I bet you a pound to a penny giving Tysie an injection will be FAR easier  :o ::) :y
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Post by: LaserLance on 02 June 2009, 16:13:26
Our last dog we had, a cairn terrior had diabetes for about 3-4 yrs , he had to have insulin injections every day but he had full and active life till the end, funniest thing was having to follow him round 1st thing in morning trying to get a urine sample with a little plastic bowl :) :) With a rottie you better follow him with a bucket ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D So like the others have said its nothing unuseual ,and the dog seems to know when you give its in the scruff of the neck it doesnt mind cos its seems to understand its for its own health
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Post by: cem_devecioglu on 02 June 2009, 19:27:44
yep..dogs and cats can also have diabetes.. 

but not the end of life..

you will need to make injections regularly..

you will learn how to make injections after some trial ( I confess not easy) but you have to be quick..

catch some loose skin,strecth a bit upwards  and horizontally make the injection..

will not be easy with a dog though :-/

ps: the type of injection I used was for some viral sickness..

if the equipment used for diabetes in humans can be used I think will be easier..
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Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 02 June 2009, 19:30:32
Sorry to hear that Bertie!! :'( :'(

I am glad they didn't recommend that they put me down when I was diagnosed with diabetes!! :o :o ::) ::)

Animals must be ok for similar treatment to humans. ;) ;)
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Post by: cem_devecioglu on 02 June 2009, 19:38:55
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Sorry to hear that Bertie!! :'( :'(

I am glad they didn't recommend that they put me down when I was diagnosed with diabetes!! :o :o ::) ::)

Animals must be ok for similar treatment to humans. ;) ;)

my mom also have diabetes Lizzie.. Not easy to find place and inject everyday.. :'(
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Post by: BERTIECBX550 on 02 June 2009, 19:57:06
Unfortunatley tysie passed away this afternoon at the vets she was very dehydrated and weak and her kidneys had started to shut down so i made the difficult decision to have tysie put to sleep and end her pain...Its the hardest choice i have had to make and its upset me greatly i`m a grown man and have not stopped crying since...Thankyou for your messages of support and advice i just wished i had caught the symptoms earlier..... :'( :'( :'(
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Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 02 June 2009, 20:07:50
Ah Bertie, my thoughts are with you :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

The loss of such an animal friend can hurt bad.  Try and bear up. :'( :'(

 :-* :-* :-* :-*
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Post by: Andy B on 02 June 2009, 20:13:00
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......Its the hardest choice i have had to make and its upset me greatly i`m a grown man and have not stopped crying since... .....

It a decision you can never make lightly.
I wouldn't worry about crying mate, you should've seen me when we'd made the same decision with a cat of ours a couple of years ago.
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Post by: waspy on 02 June 2009, 20:53:39
Oh mate, my up most sympathy goes to you. I've had to do exactly the same twice before with past Rottie's. It breaks your heart, it really does. I now have another called Hanna, she's so loving & very protective of me. She's a rescue dog & i would recommend you having another, not to replace, but to give you the love that you are missing. Cry all you need to mate, i have twice over :( :( :( :'(
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Post by: cem_devecioglu on 02 June 2009, 20:58:25
Sad news.. :'(

And I know it really hurts :(

Get a new baby..
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Post by: LaserLance on 02 June 2009, 20:58:44
sorry to hear of your lose bertie  :( :(we nearly lost our spaniel to pneumonia a couple of weeks ago but it was caught just in time and hes slowly getting better ,cost best part of a grand ,but money doesnt mean a thing to our pets really.
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Post by: Vamps on 02 June 2009, 22:40:36
Sorry to hear that Bertie............ :( :(
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Post by: Christian on 03 June 2009, 08:48:35
Sorry about thi gaz.

At least tysie aint suffreing now mate.
Title: Re: I need advice please....
Post by: omegarob on 03 June 2009, 11:04:14
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Unfortunatley tysie passed away this afternoon at the vets she was very dehydrated and weak and her kidneys had started to shut down so i made the difficult decision to have tysie put to sleep and end her pain...Its the hardest choice i have had to make and its upset me greatly i`m a grown man and have not stopped crying since...Thankyou for your messages of support and advice i just wished i had caught the symptoms earlier..... :'( :'( :'(
so, so sorry mate i had to make that dessision last year with one of my dogs, i cied like a baby for two days, but i also had to make a bigger choise, when my wife past away this christmas just gone, the doctors asked me if i wanted them to stop trying to revive her from eperlepsy, and another stroke. i had to make the biggest dessision of my life. it was hard, and i still cry today, and will do for many months to come. but i know shes in heaven with our dog, looking out for him..take care mate, rob.. :-[
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Post by: crazyjoetavola on 03 June 2009, 15:04:12
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 so, so sorry mate i had to make that dessision last year with one of my dogs, i cied like a baby for two days, but i also had to make a bigger choise, when my wife past away this christmas just gone, the doctors asked me if i wanted them to stop trying to revive her from eperlepsy, and another stroke. i had to make the biggest dessision of my life. it was hard, and i still cry today, and will do for many months to come. but i know shes in heaven with our dog, looking out for him..take care mate, rob.. :-[


Rob, when I read this it knocked the stuffing right out of me.  There can be no real preparation, spiritual or practical, to prepare one for such a devastating occurrence.

Forgive me for using this open forum to convey my most sincere sympathy to you, but I'm sure that many other members reading this will echo my thoughts.

It's difficult to accept at times that these distressing circumstances sometimes benefit our loved ones, but they do, after all how can we stand by and witness their distress and discomfort. It still makes the harsh fact of their departure however so very hard to deal with.

It always falls upon those who remain to shoulder the burden of grief but such grief can be lightened somewhat when the thoughts and prayers of family, friends, and your other OOF members are to hand
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Post by: omegarob on 03 June 2009, 19:03:31
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 so, so sorry mate i had to make that dessision last year with one of my dogs, i cied like a baby for two days, but i also had to make a bigger choise, when my wife past away this christmas just gone, the doctors asked me if i wanted them to stop trying to revive her from eperlepsy, and another stroke. i had to make the biggest dessision of my life. it was hard, and i still cry today, and will do for many months to come. but i know shes in heaven with our dog, looking out for him..take care mate, rob.. :-[


Rob, when I read this it knocked the stuffing right out of me.  There can be no real preparation, spiritual or practical, to prepare one for such a devastating occurrence.

Forgive me for using this open forum to convey my most sincere sympathy to you, but I'm sure that many other members reading this will echo my thoughts.

It's difficult to accept at times that these distressing circumstances sometimes benefit our loved ones, but they do, after all how can we stand by and witness their distress and discomfort. It still makes the harsh fact of their departure however so very hard to deal with.

It always falls upon those who remain to shoulder the burden of grief but such grief can be lightened somewhat when the thoughts and prayers of family, friends, and your other OOF members are to hand
thanks zulu, kind words, i just felt for bertiecbx 550
and the grief he is feeling. and somtimes things are for the best, it was for my wife, and my dog, both would have had a shit life if they had surived. and please other oof members,  please dont tip toa around me im ok, and i know how hard it is for members to speak about it, beacuse its a delicate subject..basicly my wife jenny had a massive stroke two years ago, and was in a hospital for six months, she then came home and i gave up my job to look after her as her full time carer. jenny regained al her speech, and was paralized down her right side, so she was in a wheelchair.jen couldent walk but could transfer from wheel chair to bed using a frame. jenny had to use a comode and it was me having to wipe her etc. give her bed baths, wash, clean, cook, get up in the night usually 3 times for jen to go toilet. i would usually get a break during the day for a hour or two to work on my cars, but found this difficult, as somtimes i would get carried away and got back to the house, to find a puddle of pee on the floor, and jenny sobing. i then decided not to work on the cars :(  i always feared for the future for both of us, as i know jenny would have got a lot worse in time, and would have to be hoisted everywhere, she always said to me if anytime i get like that i would rarther be dead. whose words rang in my ears on chritmas day night...in A@E i was given seconds to decide. i told them to stop. i later was told by the consultent, if she had pulled through, she would have been so severaly disabled, her quality of life. would be quiet bad. i was married to jenny for 31years, and she made me so proud, and i did everything i could to make her last two years the best she had.. regrets.. no i dont, i dont blame god or anybody for her death. its the way of life somtime. you can always look back and say what if.. all i can say to sum up my wife is i was so proud to be her husband, and enjoyed our lives together, with its ups and downs. so be a good husband or wife to the partner your with, and make the best of life regardless of what you may be going through. lifes to short, to argue. anyway im here to make freinds, and continue with fixing cars, as we seemed to loose all our freinds when jenny had her stroke. people get scared of others with a disabilty. human nature.. so here i am. thanks rob. :y
Title: Re: I need advice please....
Post by: crazyjoetavola on 03 June 2009, 21:26:07
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 so, so sorry mate i had to make that dessision last year with one of my dogs, i cied like a baby for two days, but i also had to make a bigger choise, when my wife past away this christmas just gone, the doctors asked me if i wanted them to stop trying to revive her from eperlepsy, and another stroke. i had to make the biggest dessision of my life. it was hard, and i still cry today, and will do for many months to come. but i know shes in heaven with our dog, looking out for him..take care mate, rob.. :-[


Rob, when I read this it knocked the stuffing right out of me.  There can be no real preparation, spiritual or practical, to prepare one for such a devastating occurrence.

Forgive me for using this open forum to convey my most sincere sympathy to you, but I'm sure that many other members reading this will echo my thoughts.

It's difficult to accept at times that these distressing circumstances sometimes benefit our loved ones, but they do, after all how can we stand by and witness their distress and discomfort. It still makes the harsh fact of their departure however so very hard to deal with.

It always falls upon those who remain to shoulder the burden of grief but such grief can be lightened somewhat when the thoughts and prayers of family, friends, and your other OOF members are to hand
thanks zulu, kind words, i just felt for bertiecbx 550
and the grief he is feeling. and somtimes things are for the best, it was for my wife, and my dog, both would have had a shit life if they had surived. and please other oof members,  please dont tip toa around me im ok, and i know how hard it is for members to speak about it, beacuse its a delicate subject..basicly my wife jenny had a massive stroke two years ago, and was in a hospital for six months, she then came home and i gave up my job to look after her as her full time carer. jenny regained al her speech, and was paralized down her right side, so she was in a wheelchair.jen couldent walk but could transfer from wheel chair to bed using a frame. jenny had to use a comode and it was me having to wipe her etc. give her bed baths, wash, clean, cook, get up in the night usually 3 times for jen to go toilet. i would usually get a break during the day for a hour or two to work on my cars, but found this difficult, as somtimes i would get carried away and got back to the house, to find a puddle of pee on the floor, and jenny sobing. i then decided not to work on the cars :(  i always feared for the future for both of us, as i know jenny would have got a lot worse in time, and would have to be hoisted everywhere, she always said to me if anytime i get like that i would rarther be dead. whose words rang in my ears on chritmas day night...in A@E i was given seconds to decide. i told them to stop. i later was told by the consultent, if she had pulled through, she would have been so severaly disabled, her quality of life. would be quiet bad. i was married to jenny for 31years, and she made me so proud, and i did everything i could to make her last two years the best she had.. regrets.. no i dont, i dont blame god or anybody for her death. its the way of life somtime. you can always look back and say what if.. all i can say to sum up my wife is i was so proud to be her husband, and enjoyed our lives together, with its ups and downs. so be a good husband or wife to the partner your with, and make the best of life regardless of what you may be going through. lifes to short, to argue. anyway im here to make freinds, and continue with fixing cars, as we seemed to loose all our freinds when jenny had her stroke. people get scared of others with a disabilty. human nature.. so here i am. thanks rob. :y


Thank you for your reply Rob.  You can be proud that you stepped up when it mattered and I'm sure that fact was not lost on your wife.

I have no doubt that you will continue to have many friends on this forum with whom you can laugh, complain and talk about cars.  That is the essence of this forum - the facility to always have a friendly voice to turn to, just when you need it.
Title: Re: I need advice please....
Post by: BERTIECBX550 on 03 June 2009, 22:28:03
I am so sorry to hear of your loss rob....I lost my mum on fri the 13th of feb this year after she lost the battle with cancer (she was diagnosed with it in 3 areas) and now the loss of our dog has hit me and my dad for another six....i just want this bloody year to end as my girlfriends nan died on monday as well i`m just sick and tired of sadness and grief its really starting to get to me now...... :'( :'( :'(
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Post by: omegarob on 03 June 2009, 23:12:04
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I am so sorry to hear of your loss rob....I lost my mum on fri the 13th of feb this year after she lost the battle with cancer (she was diagnosed with it in 3 areas) and now the loss of our dog has hit me and my dad for another six....i just want this bloody year to end as my girlfriends nan died on monday as well i`m just sick and tired of sadness and grief its really starting to get to me now...... :'( :'( :'(
we will stand together, mate. and come through this stronger, and with time, will understand more about life. be strong.. rob..