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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Pawel_Nottingham on 19 March 2009, 03:13:10
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Hi everyone!
I have had a situation on a roundabout where I was forced to dodge another car that was trying to ram me. And because I found this situation to be repetetive I have began to wonder what if I won't try to avoid the other car.
Here's a sketch I've done to describe the whole scene better than I could with words ;)
(http://www.illustrator.pl/collision/situation%20one.jpg)
Please help me out :)
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This happened to me aboout 10 years ago in my first new rover
the owner of the other car admited liability untill she got home then said it was all my fault.
It was a bit of a stalemet untill i got out the old video camera and filmed the correct way to go around the roundabout and describing my placement on the road and the other drivers
this all tied up withthe damage on the cars
from what i can see the other car should have gone in the lane up the side of the purple truck
Doug
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put your foot down and make sure he goes into the back of you and when he does ram you get on the phone to the police
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This happens to me on an almost daily basis on the way to work, and I've asked about asked about as well just in case I forget to brake one day ;)
As far as we can tell, as long as you can demonstrate that you've stayed in the correct lane and the other driver has strayed across the line, you should be able to claim on his insurance.
Don't know if it's the same for everyone else, but it always seems to be either Nissan Micra or Nissan Note's that seem to think you can drive straight across a roundabout without following the lanes! >:(
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This happened to me aboout 10 years ago in my first new rover
the owner of the other car admited liability untill she got home then said it was all my fault.
It was a bit of a stalemet untill i got out the old video camera and filmed the correct way to go around the roundabout and describing my placement on the road and the other drivers
this all tied up withthe damage on the cars
from what i can see the other car should have gone in the lane up the side of the purple truck
Doug
Think its a bus mate. ;D
Just let the other driver go...wave and feel content knowing youve kept calm. :y
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This happened to me aboout 10 years ago in my first new rover
the owner of the other car admited liability untill she got home then said it was all my fault.
It was a bit of a stalemet untill i got out the old video camera and filmed the correct way to go around the roundabout and describing my placement on the road and the other drivers
this all tied up withthe damage on the cars
from what i can see the other car should have gone in the lane up the side of the purple truck
Doug
Think its a bus mate. ;D
Just let the other driver go...wave and feel content knowing youve kept calm. :y
sod that go in with horns blasting
get a great big lorry horn and scare the livind daylights out of him ;D
[size=8](do not try this at home)[/size]
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This happened to me aboout 10 years ago in my first new rover
the owner of the other car admited liability untill she got home then said it was all my fault.
It was a bit of a stalemet untill i got out the old video camera and filmed the correct way to go around the roundabout and describing my placement on the road and the other drivers
this all tied up withthe damage on the cars
from what i can see the other car should have gone in the lane up the side of the purple truck
Doug
Think its a bus mate. ;D
Just let the other driver go...wave and feel content knowing youve kept calm. :y
sod that go in with horns blasting
get a great big lorry horn and scare the livind daylights out of him ;D
[size=8](do not try this at home)[/size]
You mean train horn...now there loud... ;D
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Ah.....Dunkirk roundabout.
Clearly you are in the right as you were following the correct line around the roundabout, the other driver has chopped lane from the left.....
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i was thinking along the terms of a dixie horn
be laughing so hard will probly go the other way and hit somebody else
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i was thinking along the terms of a dixie horn
be laughing so hard will probly go the other way and hit somebody else
Yeah now that would be different. ;D
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It looks as though there are no "lanes" through the grid. If you have witnesses this will be a problem if the other car has his nose in front of yours and you may find that you are responsible for not taking due care where priorities are not clear. If he hits you in the side i.e. your nose in front then he has the problem to explain - but there is no guarantee that both sets of insurers would just agree ot pay the costs of their own insureds and you would not recover your excess or other uninsured expenses. May people will just lie and in your word against theirs the insurance companies will not spend money fighting except in highvalue cases. the police will not be interested unless there is an injury,
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[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjycPit1DPo[/media]
or even better
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9KKaj26Lsw[/media]
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Ah.....Dunkirk roundabout.
Clearly you are in the right as you were following the correct line around the roundabout, the other driver has chopped lane from the left.....
I agree with Marks DTM Calib...
You were following the correct lane procedure around the roundabout...
Do not admit fault, and stick to your claim that other driver is at fault...
:y
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It looks as though there are no "lanes" through the grid. If you have witnesses this will be a problem if the other car has his nose in front of yours and you may find that you are responsible for not taking due care where priorities are not clear. If he hits you in the side i.e. your nose in front then he has the problem to explain - but there is no guarantee that both sets of insurers would just agree ot pay the costs of their own insureds and you would not recover your excess or other uninsured expenses. May people will just lie and in your word against theirs the insurance companies will not spend money fighting except in highvalue cases. the police will not be interested unless there is an injury,
Many roundabouts do not even have "lane marking", however the "lanes" still exist even without markings and should be followed according to the procedures we all learned...
:) :y
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Hi everyone!
I have had a situation on a roundabout where I was forced to dodge another car that was trying to ram me. And because I found this situation to be repetetive I have began to wonder what if I won't try to avoid the other car.
Here's a sketch I've done to describe the whole scene better than I could with words ;)
(http://www.illustrator.pl/collision/situation%20one.jpg)
Please help me out :)
No criticism intended, but the problem with "dodging", when we feel we have to, is dodge to where...??
If we dodge out of our own correct position we risk hitting another vehicle ourselves...!!
:(
:y
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I think you will find the insurance company will go knock for knock :(
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This happened to me aboout 10 years ago in my first new rover
the owner of the other car admited liability untill she got home then said it was all my fault.
It was a bit of a stalemet untill i got out the old video camera and filmed the correct way to go around the roundabout and describing my placement on the road and the other drivers
this all tied up withthe damage on the cars
from what i can see the other car should have gone in the lane up the side of the purple truck
Doug
Think its a bus mate. ;D
Just let the other driver go...wave and feel content knowing youve kept calm. :y
sod that go in with horns blasting
get a great big lorry horn and scare the livind daylights out of him ;D
[size=8](do not try this at home)[/size]
I used to have an airhorn fitted to my push bike. It came about when studying in Sheffield and I had to cycle in from the top of some humoungous hills, 30mph was easily possible just freewheeling. Despite upgrading the brakes and wearing reflective hi-vis clothing I had a few close calls with vehicles pulling out on me. I saw the airhorn and fitting the canister on the handlebars between the tri-bar with aquarium piping leading back to the horn fitted underneath the saddle. The cops said it was legal and it worked a treat as cars would think a lorry was coming. It was also handy for cycling around the Arc de Triomphe in Paris! ;D ;D ;D
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The Arc de Triomphe, Paris...!!
Now that is an experience to remember...!!
;D ;D ;D
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I think you will find the insurance company will go knock for knock :(
i agree, the insurance co will likely go 50/50. The police will attend only if the road is blocked or if there is injury. my force will not take reports if its damage only and im sure we are not alone.
Best advice is avoid the moron, if you do get hit then try to take some pictures quickly with the cars in situ, then of the roundabout and markings.send these with the claim but... we all know what insurance comapnies are like :-X
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I think you will find the insurance company will go knock for knock :(
Agreed -- that's the norm where blame isn't clear -- saves the insurance companie's costs and s*d the insured drivers !!!!
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I had a car change lanes into me once on a bike, my front wheel removed his door trim.
On same bike not that long after I had a Transit pick up pull out in front of me - I lost the front end emergency braking, and slid into the PU, dented his door quite badly, but hitting the van recovered the slide and I carried on after abusing him.
Even had a traffic car pull out in front of my 600 - again emergency stop on greasy road - had a slide.
Thats it I am NOT getting another bike.
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I had a car change lanes into me once on a bike, my front wheel removed his door trim.
On same bike not that long after I had a Transit pick up pull out in front of me - I lost the front end emergency braking, and slid into the PU, dented his door quite badly, but hitting the van recovered the slide and I carried on after abusing him.
Even had a traffic car pull out in front of my 600 - again emergency stop on greasy road - had a slide.
Thats it I am NOT getting another bike.
get a trike :y
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I suffer morons who cannot use roundabouts on a daily basis and have now given up arguing about it. Just either put my foot down and leave them standing or slow and let them go! Life's too short!
Of course... There's still the odd occasion where I see red and stand my ground with a firm but extended press on the horn! Normally works, especially if you time it when their drivers door is in line with the front left corner of your car (where the horns are) ::) ::) ;D ;D
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It the same in the situation where 2 lanes go into one and a clear sign saying merge in turn now and some idiot decides to drive up the inside of you insisting that he won't let you in. Its ok now i have the power of my miggy but i have had an incident where i stood my ground and he hit my rear quarter panel with his nose on my side of the line and his insurance payed out. The roads are just full of impatient idiots! Use your horn and stand your ground. If he hits you it's his fault, of course you want to avoid this at all costs, but if it can't be avoided let him hit you, if you hit somebody in the right lane swerving to avoid him it becomes your fault regardless of what he did to make you react that way.
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Thank you all for your replies:) From what I can see now is that sadly there are no firm rules about who was in the wrong under the given circumstances :-/
Anyways, I will be selling my mig in a couple of months for spares, so I don't mind Sunday drivers hitting me from aaaal directions. For as long as they pay up that is ;D
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Thank you all for your replies:) From what I can see now is that sadly there are no firm rules about who was in the wrong under the given circumstances :-/
Anyways, I will be selling my mig in a couple of months for spares, so I don't mind Sunday drivers hitting me from aaaal directions. For as long as they pay up that is ;D
You didn;t used to go to the Ericsson site in Beeston did you?
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No, I'm used to go to the SBS site in Beeston:D Why? Did u see me there?
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No, I'm used to go to the SBS site in Beeston:D Why? Did u see me there?
Yes, used to see you leave just before 8.00am!
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Oh, that was almost a year ago, when I was still on the midnight-8am shift. Now I work in the same place, only I start at 1.30Pm and finish at 10pm.
Do you work there as well? And is your omega a green sedan? :)
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Yep, green sedan....used to work there until Ericsson shut it last July!
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Damned recession...my site shuts down at the end of this July :-/
So it was you...what are the odds? :)
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has any one seen the roundabouts in colchester they have roundabouts on roundabouts :o blew my mind up there ? nice place for a night out on the town :y
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I've never been there, but just traced that place in google maps...wicked ;D
Plus I can't imagine how the sat navs can be confused there :D
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has any one seen the roundabouts in colchester they have roundabouts on roundabouts :o blew my mind up there ? nice place for a night out on the town :y
Think there is one of those in Hertfordshire, not quite sure where, Hemel?? :)
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has any one seen the roundabouts in colchester they have roundabouts on roundabouts :o blew my mind up there ? nice place for a night out on the town :y
Think there is one of those in Hertfordshire, not quite sure where, Hemel?? :)
Correct Hemel Hempsted and know as The Magic Rounderbout :y