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I am in need of some help, so please let me know if I have any options.
Parked for 3-5 mins on double yellow lines near a popular shopping center in Hounslow while I poped into the super market to buy badgage for my little one.
My vechicle was clamped and I had to pay £320 as a clamping + release fee - needless to say I can't sleep...
Do I have any legal recourse? I have been doing some reading and the maximum they can charge is £75- is that true. I have a reciept and seeking advice. If there are any solictors on this forum and can help me if there is a possible case - I am happy to discuss.
Please let me know.
Thanks,
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I am in need of some help, so please let me know if I have any options.
Parked for 3-5 mins on double yellow lines near a popular shopping center in Hounslow while I poped into the super market to buy badgage for my little one.
My vechicle was clamped and I had to pay £320 as a clamping + release fee - needless to say I can't sleep...
Do I have any legal recourse? I have been doing some reading and the maximum they can charge is £75- is that true. I have a reciept and seeking advice. If there are any solictors on this forum and can help me if there is a possible case - I am happy to discuss.
Please let me know.
Thanks,
That's absolutely outrageous. >:( >:( >:(
Did you get a receipt for the payment?
It seems there are a few scams around. Have a read of this. :y
http://www.arenaflowers.com/blog/2008/01/17/how-to-beat-car-clamping-scammers-and-save-300/
It seems you may be right that £75 is the maximum under the Code of Practice, but i am not a lawyer. ;)
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...and check out the link to penalty charges on the penultimate line of that article.
Good luck, and let us know what transpires. :y
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Nick,
Thanks for your prompt response. Yes, I read the link and hence I reckon there is some scope but not sure - I am not a solictor either.
Yes, I have a receipt and the guy was showing his badge all the time and I did call the number listed on the board and it was answered by a person.
The amount is definately outrageous. Had guests and my family in the car - not that it was parked dangeriously either...I was just round the corner and the usual line for payment ensured I had to pay this outrageous amount of money.. :-[ >:( :-[
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Nick,
Thanks for your prompt response. Yes, I read the link and hence I reckon there is some scope but not sure - I am not a solictor either.
Yes, I have a receipt and the guy was showing his badge all the time and I did call the number listed on the board and it was answered by a person.
The amount is definately outrageous. Had guests and my family in the car - not that it was parked dangeriously either...I was just round the corner and the usual line for payment ensured I had to pay this outrageous amount of money.. :-[ >:( :-[
Was it a public road, or land owned by the shopping centre?
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The people that charged you have definitely contravened the Code of Practice by charging more than £75. What that means from legal point of view, I am unsure.
It's late now, but I reckon that over the coming days, suggestions will be found to help you with this...well, let's call it daylight robbery, for I can't think of a better word. >:(
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I have little sympathy for people who park on yellow lines and even less for those who park in disabled bays without a blue badge >:( Something I see regularly in supermarkets and other private car parks. >:(
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Nick,
Thanks for your prompt response. Yes, I read the link and hence I reckon there is some scope but not sure - I am not a solictor either.
Yes, I have a receipt and the guy was showing his badge all the time and I did call the number listed on the board and it was answered by a person.
The amount is definately outrageous. Had guests and my family in the car - not that it was parked dangeriously either...I was just round the corner and the usual line for payment ensured I had to pay this outrageous amount of money.. :-[ >:( :-[
Was it a public road, or land owned by the shopping centre?
Will be looking for baord tomorrow, as of now I am not sure. There are counsil houses at the back of this road and is just off the high street - not sure if still owned by the counsil or belongs to the development company.
Day light robbery, I can't rest tonight as I am now concerned of the meeting my bills for this month... :-[
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I have little sympathy for people who park on yellow lines and even less for those who park in disabled bays without a blue badge >:( Something I see regularly in supermarkets and other private car parks. >:(
Agreed I made a error of judgement and I made a mistake but I lost my mind with blood coming out of my little ones feet, still my mistake but I feel robbed having to pay 320..
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I have little sympathy for people who park on yellow lines and even less for those who park in disabled bays without a blue badge >:( Something I see regularly in supermarkets and other private car parks. >:(
Agreed I made a error of judgement and I made a mistake but I lost my mind with blood coming out of my little ones feet, still my mistake but I feel robbed having to pay 320..
I have to agree that that sounds an extortionate amount............And i would put my child first, regardless...... :)
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Nick,
Thanks for your prompt response. Yes, I read the link and hence I reckon there is some scope but not sure - I am not a solictor either.
Yes, I have a receipt and the guy was showing his badge all the time and I did call the number listed on the board and it was answered by a person.
The amount is definately outrageous. Had guests and my family in the car - not that it was parked dangeriously either...I was just round the corner and the usual line for payment ensured I had to pay this outrageous amount of money.. :-[ >:( :-[
Was it a public road, or land owned by the shopping centre?
Will be looking for baord tomorrow, as of now I am not sure. There are counsil houses at the back of this road and is just off the high street - not sure if still owned by the counsil or belongs to the development company.
Day light robbery, I can't rest tonight as I am now concerned of the meeting my bills for this month... :-[
Chill, mate. :y
There is no way that £320 is a fair price for a 5-minute parking contravention. You have not committed a major crime, FFS!
>:( >:( >:(
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I have little sympathy for people who park on yellow lines and even less for those who park in disabled bays without a blue badge >:( Something I see regularly in supermarkets and other private car parks. >:(
Agreed I made a error of judgement and I made a mistake but I lost my mind with blood coming out of my little ones feet, still my mistake but I feel robbed having to pay 320..
I'm with you even more on on this. My childrens' well-being always comes first.
Let's get the b*stards that scammed you! :y
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I havent read the link that has been posted, but.......
Was there a displayed sign advertising the clamping fee's are thier proposed proceedure.
Also, are they allowed to clamp a vechicle that has people in in, I know the law says a vechicle cannot be towed away or lifted with people inside.
Also i would challenge the fact that they seemed to be waiting to "Pounce" Did they ask any of the occupants any questions before clamping.
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I have little sympathy for people who park on yellow lines and even less for those who park in disabled bays without a blue badge >:( Something I see regularly in supermarkets and other private car parks. >:(
I am with you Mike, but there are times that I think people need to react using thier head or thier heart, rather than pounce for thier commision and reward at the end of the month, or the tittle of No1 bastard Clamper for a reward. I recken this could be one of those cases, especially for the sake of 3 mins. (But I will also add, I dont know how or where the car was parked, A £25 charge I would accept and absorb and put down to experiance, putting my childs welfare 1st, I would even suffer the £75, BUT £320. Nah, fight it all the way, they are taking the wee wee)
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Was it a public road, or land owned by the shopping centre?[/quote]
Just verified is a private road
(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt128/suhasmadhekar/PenaltyNotice001.jpg)
I was fined at 13:50 and the payment and everything was done by 14:11
Now, I would have parked there around 13:45.
As it is private road and the notice properly displayed I have a bad feeling I will have to live with it but I am not able to cope with this personally - cant get it out of mind or stopping thinking about it.
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(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt128/suhasmadhekar/PenaltyNotice009.jpg)
My notice
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Was there a displayed sign advertising the clamping fee's are thier proposed proceedure.
YES
Also, are they allowed to clamp a vechicle that has people in in, I know the law says a vechicle cannot be towed away or lifted with people inside.
This I am not sure, the notice say unattended vechicles - while this was nto unattended and it clearly had a child in the car
Also i would challenge the fact that they seemed to be waiting to "Pounce" Did they ask any of the occupants any questions before clamping.
Yes, they asked my wife to move the car and when she did not appear confident - she was asked if she is authorised to drive, she decided to call me and in the mean time it was clamped.. definately another means to make money for the rich landlords and make the life of a ordinary - most of the times law abiding resident misreable and difficult..
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Seems Regional Clamping Services (current company registered 29 April 2009) is a bit of a dodgy outfit.
http://www.harrowtimes.co.uk/news/4443201.Rogue_clampers_carry_on_regardless/
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A bit dodgy this.
The company whos name is on the notice was put into compulsary liquidation on 25/02/2009 according to companies house.
http://wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk/ddc240106c5f82301c08992e3d30b91e/compdetails
The winding up order was then published in the London Gazette on the 5th March
http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/58998/notices/755140/all=05933790
So, I think you have a case and its clear why the state cash only on the receipt as they wont have any useful banking facilities!
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Get one of these for the boot
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A bit dodgy this.
The company whos name is on the notice was put into compulsary liquidation on 25/02/2009 according to companies house.
http://wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk/ddc240106c5f82301c08992e3d30b91e/compdetails
The winding up order was then published in the London Gazette on the 5th March
http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/58998/notices/755140/all=05933790
So, I think you have a case and its clear why the state cash only on the receipt as they wont have any useful banking facilities!
I think a visit to the local police station may be in order. :y
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A bit dodgy this.
The company whose name is on the notice was put into compulsary liquidation on 25/02/2009 according to companies house.
http://wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk/ddc240106c5f82301c08992e3d30b91e/compdetails
The winding up order was then published in the London Gazette on the 5th March
http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/58998/notices/755140/all=05933790
So, I think you have a case and its clear why the state cash only on the receipt as they wont have any useful banking facilities!
I think a visit to the local police station may be in order. :y
Nick/ Mark,
Thanks for the information. I have now read the harrow times article a few times and also noticed the reciept I have and the notice board are in the name of Regional Clamping Services (UK) Limited
(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt128/suhasmadhekar/PenaltyNotice008.jpg)
Company No. 06891065
Status: Active
Date of Incorporation: 29/04/2009
They are clearly a dodgy company who does not pay the taxman anything but reckons it is their right to rob my Post tax money out of my pocket.. I commited a mistake and I am ready to pay a reasonable fine and put it down to learning experience.... still can't excuse myself..
I think a visit to the local police station may be in order. :y
How should I approach the police now? Sorry, no practical experience of dealing with them ever...
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One thing that immediately looks out of order, even if you accept the extortionate fees, is that they have charged you the TOWING fee of £170 on top of the CLAMPING fee of £150 --- you weren't towed !!!!
So, if all else fails they have not complied with the notices and have stolen £170 !!!
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One thing that immediately looks out of order, even if you accept the extortionate fees, is that they have charged you the TOWING fee of £170 on top of the CLAMPING fee of £150 --- you weren't towed !!!!
So, if all else fails they have not complied with the notices and have stolen £170 !!!
HC, thanks. I was thinking about it this morning and the clever wording on the text of the notice prevented me pursuing it further. Do you reckon I stand a chance after reading the words below?
(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt128/suhasmadhekar/CleverWording.jpg)
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How should I approach the police now? Sorry, no practical experience of dealing with them ever...
Take all the relevant details/papers (including print-out of Harrow Times page) down to the local station and tell them that you believe this company has illegally charged you. They may well have received other complaints about the company, so your information could be very useful to them.
However, if you don't get any joy from them, you should next contact your local trading standards office.
Keep us informed! :y
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Police & small claims court
Followed by baseball bat around the clampers head!
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...and thinking about it, the fact that they charged you for towing when you weren't towed, does amount to fraud.
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One thing that immediately looks out of order, even if you accept the extortionate fees, is that they have charged you the TOWING fee of £170 on top of the CLAMPING fee of £150 --- you weren't towed !!!!
So, if all else fails they have not complied with the notices and have stolen £170 !!!
HC, thanks. I was thinking about it this morning and the clever wording on the text of the notice prevented me pursuing it further. Do you reckon I stand a chance after reading the words below?
(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt128/suhasmadhekar/CleverWording.jpg)
According too that long winded wording only unattended vehicles will be towed --- you car was not unattended, therefore towing was not an option. Even if it was they didn't have time to even call the tow truck, let alone have it arrive on site.
As Nickbat says -- they appear to have acted illegally in my (untrained) view.
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How should I approach the police now? Sorry, no practical experience of dealing with them ever...
Take all the relevant details/papers (including print-out of Harrow Times page) down to the local station and tell them that you believe this company has illegally charged you. They may well have received other complaints about the company, so your information could be very useful to them.
However, if you don't get any joy from them, you should next contact your local trading standards office.
Keep us informed! :y
Thanks Nick. I will contact my local police authority and inform if there is any joy. Thanks for the next steps otherwise..
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One thing that immediately looks out of order, even if you accept the extortionate fees, is that they have charged you the TOWING fee of £170 on top of the CLAMPING fee of £150 --- you weren't towed !!!!
So, if all else fails they have not complied with the notices and have stolen £170 !!!
HC, thanks. I was thinking about it this morning and the clever wording on the text of the notice prevented me pursuing it further. Do you reckon I stand a chance after reading the words below?
(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt128/suhasmadhekar/CleverWording.jpg)
According too that long winded wording only unattended vehicles will be towed --- you car was not unattended, therefore towing was not an option. Even if it was they didn't have time to even call the tow truck, let alone have it arrive on site.
As Nickbat says -- they appear to have acted illegally in my (untrained) view.
I know, this is waht I mentioned this morning also they have checked 'Parked Dangarously', 'Causing Obstruction' - which clearly was not the case as the lanes were not blocked and there was no authorised vechicle in the loading bay...
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Police & small claims court
Followed by baseball bat around the clampers head!
would love too..haha
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Don't really know if this will help GC, but I have been reviewing the situation on the web. To start with, according to a legal expert in Scotland clamping on private property is illegal, but in England I'm afraid it is still perfect legal to do so! :'( :'(
The law is going to be changed to limit fines and clamping charges, but I have found no evidence that anything has been passed in Parliament yet. :'( :'(
What I have found GC amongst all the info is this company who offer (I think free initially) advise on private clamping issues:
http://www.roadsidelawyer.co.uk/questions/what-laws-are-there-regarding-a-private-parking-enforcement-company-clamping-a-car-on-private-property
This may not help you, but it is worth a try, as is going to the police as others have suggested on the issue of fraud over the charge for "towing" when that never took place, and the crucial point as far as I am concerned that the car was never left unattended, a condition specified in the legal notice of this company to start clamping proceedings. They have breached their own terms and conditions, and I suspect broken at least civil law, if not criminal.
Hope you get some joy here, as I have cried over getting an 'on the road' £60 parking bay ticket, although I pursuaded the council to cancel it for legal reasons! ;) ;) I can imagine how you feel about the (illegal?) £320 charge! :'( :'(
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Seems Regional Clamping Services (current company registered 29 April 2009) is a bit of a dodgy outfit.
http://
http://www.harrowtimes.co.uk/news/4443201.Rogue_clampers_carry_on_regardless/
http://www.harrowtimes.co.uk/search/2108486.Call_for_clamping_to_be_made_illegal_/
Another from the same company..
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I don't think you'll have much of a result from visiting the police, GC.
The criminal intent will always be difficult to prove in such cases and in the apparent absence of that, you'll probably find disinterest.
Have a look at the following service;
http://www.whichlegalservice.co.uk/services/parking-tickets.aspx
This is a well travelled road so your circumstances aren't unique.
Present all the evidence you hold up to the moment but include photographs of the road lay-out in general, but more importantly the location of the vehicle in question in relation to any signs concerning parking restrictions.
Also consider the local Trading Standards office and if you want to take a stand BBC Watchdog. :y
http://www.hounslow.gov.uk/trading_standards
http://www.bbc.co.uk/watchdog/gotastory/
http://www.consumerdirect.gov.uk/
Remember that your best friend in this matter is relevant evidence. Present all you can including statements from any person in or near the vehicle.
Good luck
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I don't think you'll have much of a result from visiting the police, GC.
The criminal intent will always be difficult to prove in such cases and in the apparent absence of that, you'll probably find disinterest.
Have a look at the following service;
http://www.whichlegalservice.co.uk/services/parking-tickets.aspx
This is a well travelled road so your circumstances aren't unique.
Present all the evidence you hold up to the moment but include photographs of the road lay-out in general, but more importantly the location of the vehicle in question in relation to any signs concerning parking restrictions.
Also consider the local Trading Standards office and if you want to take a stand BBC Watchdog. :y
http://www.hounslow.gov.uk/trading_standards
http://www.bbc.co.uk/watchdog/gotastory/
http://www.consumerdirect.gov.uk/
Remember that your best friend in this matter is relevant evidence. Present all you can including statements from any person in or near the vehicle.
Good luck
Maybe, maybe not, Zulu. I get info from the Met regarding crimes in my local area and there has been a huge growth in trading rip-offs, in which the police do seem to be taking an interest.
I think that, amongst all the other elements in this case, charging for a service not provided (i.e. towing) is tantamount to theft. For example if you went to fill up your car in a petrol station and they charged you for cleaning your car, which they didn't do, and then refused to let your car leave until you paid for the non-existent cleaning, you'd call the police...
...wouldn't you? :-/
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Don't really know if this will help GC, but I have been reviewing the situation on the web. To start with, according to a legal expert in Scotland clamping on private property is illegal, but in England I'm afraid it is still perfect legal to do so! :'( :'(
The law is going to be changed to limit fines and clamping charges, but I have found no evidence that anything has been passed in Parliament yet. :'( :'(
What I have found GC amongst all the info is this company who offer (I think free initially) advise on private clamping issues:
http://www.roadsidelawyer.co.uk/questions/what-laws-are-there-regarding-a-private-parking-enforcement-company-clamping-a-car-on-private-property
This may not help you, but it is worth a try, as is going to the police as others have suggested on the issue of fraud over the charge for "towing" when that never took place, and the crucial point as far as I am concerned that the car was never left unattended, a condition specified in the legal notice of this company to start clamping proceedings. They have breached their own terms and conditions, and I suspect broken at least civil law, if not criminal.
Hope you get some joy here, as I have cried over getting an 'on the road' £60 parking bay ticket, although I pursuaded the council to cancel it for legal reasons! ;) ;) I can imagine how you feel about the (illegal?) £320 charge! :'( :'(
Thanks, Lizze. I have now posted my question to them. Fingers crossed.
Unfortunately I still cannot get over the £320 charge..
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I don't think you'll have much of a result from visiting the police, GC.
The criminal intent will always be difficult to prove in such cases and in the apparent absence of that, you'll probably find disinterest.
Have a look at the following service;
http://www.whichlegalservice.co.uk/services/parking-tickets.aspx
This is a well travelled road so your circumstances aren't unique.
Present all the evidence you hold up to the moment but include photographs of the road lay-out in general, but more importantly the location of the vehicle in question in relation to any signs concerning parking restrictions.
Also consider the local Trading Standards office and if you want to take a stand BBC Watchdog. :y
http://www.hounslow.gov.uk/trading_standards
http://www.bbc.co.uk/watchdog/gotastory/
http://www.consumerdirect.gov.uk/
Remember that your best friend in this matter is relevant evidence. Present all you can including statements from any person in or near the vehicle.
Good luck
Maybe, maybe not, Zulu. I get info from the Met regarding crimes in my local area and there has been a huge growth in trading rip-offs, in which the police do seem to be taking an interest.
I think that, amongst all the other elements in this case, charging for a service not provided (i.e. towing) is tantamount to theft. For example if you went to fill up your car in a petrol station and they charged you for cleaning your car, which they didn't do, and then refused to let your car leave until you paid for the non-existent cleaning, you'd call the police...
...wouldn't you? :-/
tantamount
Such assertions Nick hold little weight in criminal matters - it's the Mens Rea that is always the difficult element to prove especially in the absence of an admission from the 'accused'.
The particular point made in the sign about towing would have to be tried, and the police will always be reluctant to become involved on the basis of the convoluted element in this type of wording
The way in which resources are allocated today relating to the investigation of crime, incidents in which the constituent element appears to be difficult to prove, will be elbowed. Wrong, but that's the reality.
For example if you went to fill up your car in a petrol station and they charged you for cleaning your car, which they didn't do, and then refused to let your car leave until you paid for the non-existent cleaning, you'd call the police...
What if there were a sign stating just such conditions as there was in this case - would the Police be interested in the absence of a potential breach of the peace?
I think it's a civil matter all the way, unless menaces or implied violence were used.
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Interesting how the ticket has an option for an "aggressive/abusive" charge of £50 on it.
Are the ticketing company also Judge and Jury? What do they consider abusive behaviour?
I think it's very dodgey and it it were me, I would fight this to the bitter end....
Have you already paid it? If not, I personally wouldn't - let them take me to court!
If I were in that position, and it was not yet in a truck, I think I woudl just give them my details and drive away, telling them to persue me via legal means if they believed I'd committed a parking offence and owed them money.
They can't use force to stop you driving away... and if you've given your details, you commit no offence by doing so...
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i presume that what we are debating here is the cost of release,because as far as i can see the "crime"was indeed committed
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I don't think you'll have much of a result from visiting the police, GC.
The criminal intent will always be difficult to prove in such cases and in the apparent absence of that, you'll probably find disinterest.
Have a look at the following service;
http://www.whichlegalservice.co.uk/services/parking-tickets.aspx
This is a well travelled road so your circumstances aren't unique.
Present all the evidence you hold up to the moment but include photographs of the road lay-out in general, but more importantly the location of the vehicle in question in relation to any signs concerning parking restrictions.
Also consider the local Trading Standards office and if you want to take a stand BBC Watchdog. :y
http://www.hounslow.gov.uk/trading_standards
http://www.bbc.co.uk/watchdog/gotastory/
http://www.consumerdirect.gov.uk/
Remember that your best friend in this matter is relevant evidence. Present all you can including statements from any person in or near the vehicle.
Good luck
Maybe, maybe not, Zulu. I get info from the Met regarding crimes in my local area and there has been a huge growth in trading rip-offs, in which the police do seem to be taking an interest.
I think that, amongst all the other elements in this case, charging for a service not provided (i.e. towing) is tantamount to theft. For example if you went to fill up your car in a petrol station and they charged you for cleaning your car, which they didn't do, and then refused to let your car leave until you paid for the non-existent cleaning, you'd call the police...
...wouldn't you? :-/
tantamount
Such assertions Nick hold little weight in criminal matters - it's the Mens Rea that is always the difficult element to prove especially in the absence of an admission from the 'accused'.
The particular point made in the sign about towing would have to be tried, and the police will always be reluctant to become involved on the basis of the convoluted element in this type of wording
The way in which resources are allocated today relating to the investigation of crime, incidents in which the constituent element appears to be difficult to prove, will be elbowed. Wrong, but that's the reality.
For example if you went to fill up your car in a petrol station and they charged you for cleaning your car, which they didn't do, and then refused to let your car leave until you paid for the non-existent cleaning, you'd call the police...
What if there were a sign stating just such conditions as there was in this case - would the Police be interested in the absence of a potential breach of the peace?
I think it's a civil matter all the way, unless menaces or implied violence were used.
I suppose you're right, now I think about it, Zulu.
Bit worried about the Mens Rear, though.
Where did I leave my reading glasses? ;) ;D
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I suppose you're right, now I think about it, Zulu.
Bit worried about the Mens Rear, though.
Where did I leave my reading glasses? ;) ;D
Any prosecution would surely result in a bum-rap! ;D
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I don't think you'll have much of a result from visiting the police, GC.
Thanks, Zulu as you anticipated, no help from the police - I was informed at the reception though - you are not the first one but nothing we can do to help. Try Watchdog, London Night and Trading standards.[media][/media]
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I suppose you're right, now I think about it, Zulu.
Bit worried about the Mens Rear, though.
Where did I leave my reading glasses? ;) ;D
Better the men's rear than the gonners .... as in "What did the STI germ say to his mates as the antibiotics kicked in? ....... "I'm a gonner 'ere!""
I know ... where's me coat ::)
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Just been reading all the thread & this really stinks mate. £320.00 :o :o :o :o :o For that price you could've bought some Record Bolt Cutters with high tensile jaws & got a free clamp thrown in ;)
I so hope all comes good for you matey :y :y :y :y :y
PS. Anyone else that thinks they may get clamped in the future, PM me & i'll send you my No. I already have the 36" bolt cutters & i wont charge a penny ;)
The satisfaction's enough 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)
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Just annother point i would add at this point.
the sign on the pic you have posted. it looks like a tempory one over a permanent one. if the clamping fee is lower on sign underneth then I would question the whole deal. have you checked with the shop where you were that this company operates legally or at least on thier behalf.
Also contact any programs like Watchdog, same as allready mentioned regards the councel, there may allready be legal proceedings pending.
Did you pay by cheque, if so would it be worth putting a hold on it with your bank.
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Just annother point i would add at this point.
the sign on the pic you have posted. it looks like a tempory one over a permanent one. if the clamping fee is lower on sign underneth then I would question the whole deal. have you checked with the shop where you were that this company operates legally or at least on thier behalf.
Also contact any programs like Watchdog, same as allready mentioned regards the councel, there may allready be legal proceedings pending.
Did you pay by cheque, if so would it be worth putting a hold on it with your bank.
They were wound up a few months ago so I doubt that they are operating legally -- but, from reports of the company's conduct, I doubt that matters to them !
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I am just amazed that you had £320 in cash :o :o How many people carry that much money or even have that much that can be made available Now. :(
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They were wound up a few months ago so I doubt that they are operating legally -- but, from reports of the company's conduct, I doubt that matters to them !
I would be tempted to go and park and just keep creeping forward a few inches at a time just to pee them off.
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I suppose you're right, now I think about it, Zulu.
Bit worried about the Mens Rear, though.
Where did I leave my reading glasses? ;) ;D
Any prosecution would surely result in a bum-rap! ;D
absolute class :y :y :y
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I don't think you'll have much of a result from visiting the police, GC.
The criminal intent will always be difficult to prove in such cases and in the apparent absence of that, you'll probably find disinterest.
Have a look at the following service;
http://www.whichlegalservice.co.uk/services/parking-tickets.aspx
This is a well travelled road so your circumstances aren't unique.
Present all the evidence you hold up to the moment but include photographs of the road lay-out in general, but more importantly the location of the vehicle in question in relation to any signs concerning parking restrictions.
Also consider the local Trading Standards office and if you want to take a stand BBC Watchdog. :y
http://www.hounslow.gov.uk/trading_standards
http://www.bbc.co.uk/watchdog/gotastory/
http://www.consumerdirect.gov.uk/
Remember that your best friend in this matter is relevant evidence. Present all you can including statements from any person in or near the vehicle.
Good luck
Maybe, maybe not, Zulu. I get info from the Met regarding crimes in my local area and there has been a huge growth in trading rip-offs, in which the police do seem to be taking an interest.
I think that, amongst all the other elements in this case, charging for a service not provided (i.e. towing) is tantamount to theft. For example if you went to fill up your car in a petrol station and they charged you for cleaning your car, which they didn't do, and then refused to let your car leave until you paid for the non-existent cleaning, you'd call the police...
...wouldn't you? :-/
tantamount
Such assertions Nick hold little weight in criminal matters - it's the Mens Rea that is always the difficult element to prove especially in the absence of an admission from the 'accused'.
The particular point made in the sign about towing would have to be tried, and the police will always be reluctant to become involved on the basis of the convoluted element in this type of wording
The way in which resources are allocated today relating to the investigation of crime, incidents in which the constituent element appears to be difficult to prove, will be elbowed. Wrong, but that's the reality.
For example if you went to fill up your car in a petrol station and they charged you for cleaning your car, which they didn't do, and then refused to let your car leave until you paid for the non-existent cleaning, you'd call the police...
What if there were a sign stating just such conditions as there was in this case - would the Police be interested in the absence of a potential breach of the peace?
I think it's a civil matter all the way, unless menaces or implied violence were used.
I suppose you're right, now I think about it, Zulu.
Bit worried about the Mens Rear, though.
Where did I leave my reading glasses? ;) ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D although I may be desperate, Nick I haven't reached that point just yet ;) ;)
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Ignoring the outrageous release fee of £150 for removing the clamp, was the tow truck actually called?
If not (and it probably wasn't), you've been stiffed for the £170.
Years ago I got clamped in Kingston by one of these scumbag operators after failing to notice the one & only sign that was a good 20 metres away.
I paid up, then sent them a bill for 3 times what they charged me for damage caused to the ABS wiring by their clamp..........think about it ;)
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I don't think you'll have much of a result from visiting the police, GC.
Thanks, Zulu as you anticipated, no help from the police - I was informed at the reception though - you are not the first one but nothing we can do to help. Try Watchdog, London Night and Trading standards.[media][/media]
Don't get too discouraged GC, collate all your evidence including the important photographic material and start the ball rolling at your local Trading Standards (or see below).
Keep a record of everything you do in the matter, letters sent, telephone calls made and any expenses incurred, you will need this information later in the process.
If you don't mind incurring some extra expense at the outset I would recommend the Which? legal service over the Trading Standards as the first port of call, they're very experienced in these matters and will be able to act more directly on your behalf.
You should be able to recoup any such expense if the matter goes to law.
It's not that daunting, just be methodical and keep the mindset that these cowboys will not get one over on you.
Good Luck
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All else fails - remember the baseball bat method - then take £320 off them.
At least it would be satisfying.
But I do like the Zulu77 bill them one :y
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OK Clamps
How to get out of it
I was clamped in the car park at the weekend where my then girlfriend (now wife) used to work, I used to park there when I picked her up.
1) Can you remove the wheel or the suspension, I have taken a wheel off before then the clampers relented and took off the clamp.
2) Cold chisel, before they arrived back I managed to break one side of the lock free, if they hadn't returned I would have had the lock off within another 5 minutes.
3) Drive off, if you can get the clamp to slide, just drive off, I was OK until I got to a gravel tarmac boundary and I could not get up, I was about 200m from a repair place - also a replacement GRP wing and paint was less than the release fee.
They did accuse me of writing off their clamp but I said I found it like that and they had no proof. (A few broken welds)
Anyway if it is attached it must be gifted to me!
A bit of welding would have repaired it!
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Ignoring the outrageous release fee of £150 for removing the clamp, was the tow truck actually called?
If not (and it probably wasn't), you've been stiffed for the £170.
Years ago I got clamped in Kingston by one of these scumbag operators after failing to notice the one & only sign that was a good 20 metres away.
I paid up, then sent them a bill for 3 times what they charged me for damage caused to the ABS wiring by their clamp..........think about it ;)
did that company pay the bill you had sent them or were they trying to string it out?
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did that company pay the bill you had sent them or were they trying to string it out?
Oh they strung it out alright, it even got to the stage where the missus was waiting at a set of lights one day when she was approached by a man and told it would be advisable if we dropped the legal action (something that many others had complained about apparently, but no action was ever taken as nobody was prepared to go to court).
Unfortunately for them, they bit off slightly more than they could chew on that one as the father in law is one of the founder members of an organisation that caters for motorcycle enthusiasts that have a certain mindset ;)
It took over 3 years to finally get to court, but they hadn't banked on me being the sort who simply doesn't let go until I have bled them dry....and then I'll take another pint of blood just for good measure.
By the time the legal process was finished, they ended up forking out over £18,000 in legal fees and more investigations in to their trading practices were instigated as a result.
All in all, quite an expensive day out for them considering the ticket was only £80 to start with.
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Just annother point i would add at this point.
the sign on the pic you have posted. it looks like a tempory one over a permanent one. if the clamping fee is lower on sign underneth then I would question the whole deal.
The temporary sign appears to be for the change in company name - not sure if the prices were jacked up as well - but can't be sure unless I break the law and tear up the temporary sign post.
Did you pay by cheque, if so would it be worth putting a hold on it with your bank.
Unfortunately, had to fork out cash
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Unfortunately, had to fork out cash
They refused any form of payment other than cash?
If so, the alarm bells would have already been ringing and I'd have called the old bill at that point.
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Ignoring the outrageous release fee of £150 for removing the clamp, was the tow truck actually called?
If not (and it probably wasn't), you've been stiffed for the £170.
Years ago I got clamped in Kingston by one of these scumbag operators after failing to notice the one & only sign that was a good 20 metres away.
I paid up, then sent them a bill for 3 times what they charged me for damage caused to the ABS wiring by their clamp..........think about it ;)
Tow truck was not in sight but when enquired I have been informed a call was made and I have to pay cancellation fee per the notice
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I am just amazed that you had £320 in cash :o :o How many people carry that much money or even have that much that can be made available Now. :(
Was not carrying cash - had to draw it from a ATM - just got paid a few days back and had been saving for my daughter's b'th day. Needless to say we are now revisiting all the expenses and her b'thday celebrations will have to be unfortunately scaled down... :-[ :-[. She would be 2 so I can get away with it this year.. :(
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why do you have to pay a cancellation fee for something you didnt order or book?, that is totally wrong but then again cowboys make their own rules up as they go along >:(
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I am just amazed that you had £320 in cash :o :o How many people carry that much money or even have that much that can be made available Now. :(
Was not carrying cash - had to draw it from a ATM - just got paid a few days back and had been saving for my daughter's b'th day. Needless to say we are now revisiting all the expenses and her b'thday celebrations will have to be unfortunately scaled down... :-[ :-[. She would be 2 so I can get away with it this year.. :(
Make the most of it, Miss Vamps is 9 on Thursday and we are looking at something for her and 3 friends, gone are the days of big party's. She wants to do 'something different' it may be pony trecking, whatever it is it is going to be expensive, on top of all the gifts etc. Kid's are not cheap are they.... :'( :'( :'(
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Thank you, everyone for your responses and your support.
I was fined by a new company setup in April and which probably belongs to the same dodgy outfit which was liqudated in Feb - solicitors reckon these sort of companies are usually liquidated as they have pending claims against them - so all of those can be avoided by liquidating the company, now talk of taking the micky out of the system and add some more..they are already there.. :-[
and still the law does not see the need to regularise them - admire the scots on this one... they got there early and ahead..
Right - here is the update
- No help from Police - redirected to watchdog, londonnite etc..
- Trading standards say there is nothing much they can do if it was a private land - the company is authorised to charge what they like
- Spoken to a solicitor and they reckon I should write a letter to the company demanding a refund or report the company for 'Phoniex trading' - might work but not quite sure.. worth a try, they say
Next Steps
1. Will verify if the road is actually private road or the board just says private and the company actually cashed in..
2. Solicitors reckon - double yellow lines cannot be put up on private roads- they need to have counsel permission and approval
Any solictors on this forum, please?
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Thank you, everyone for your responses and your support.
I was fined by a new company setup in April and which probably belongs to the same dodgy outfit which was liqudated in Feb - solicitors reckon these sort of companies are usually liquidated as they have pending claims against them - so all of those can be avoided by liquidating the company, now talk of taking the micky out of the system and add some more..they are already there.. :-[
and still the law does not see the need to regularise them - admire the scots on this one... they got there early and ahead..
Right - here is the update
- No help from Police - redirected to watchdog, londonnite etc..
- Trading standards say there is nothing much they can do if it was a private land - the company is authorised to charge what they like
- Spoken to a solicitor and they reckon I should write a letter to the company demanding a refund or report the company for 'Phoniex trading' - might work but not quite sure.. worth a try, they say
Next Steps
1. Will verify if the road is actually private road or the board just says private and the company actually cashed in..
2. Solicitors reckon - double yellow lines cannot be put up on private roads- they need to have counsel permission and approval
Any solictors on this forum, please?
There is some truth in that. My office is on a 'Private' industrial estate and I Had a problem with a parking ticket, which I Did get rescinded. Local Council Parking Enforcement have major problems with these places, particularly with clamping, seems the law is a minefield with many many loop holes >:(
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Had the same problem a couple of years ago, there is a thread on it somewhere in general chat, exactly same issue as yourself. Had written a letter to the clamping firm and actually hand delivered it, never got any response >:(..............Basically you are stuffed, and they can almost do and charge as they like on private roads.......................watchdog is probably the way to go, but that will only highlight the issue, doubt would make the government do anything about it though :-X.
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What you need is a lot of Omegas with large drivers to park up there.
Clampers are just thugs so are therefore legitimate targets
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What you need is a lot of Omegas with large drivers to park up there.
Clampers are just thugs so are therefore legitimate targets
Sounds like a mini-meet to me! ::) ::) :y :y
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Clampers are just thugs so are therefore legitimate targets
:y
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Thank you, everyone for your responses and your support.
I was fined by a new company setup in April and which probably belongs to the same dodgy outfit which was liqudated in Feb - solicitors reckon these sort of companies are usually liquidated as they have pending claims against them - so all of those can be avoided by liquidating the company, now talk of taking the micky out of the system and add some more..they are already there.. :-[
and still the law does not see the need to regularise them - admire the scots on this one... they got there early and ahead..
Right - here is the update
- No help from Police - redirected to watchdog, londonnite etc..
- Trading standards say there is nothing much they can do if it was a private land - the company is authorised to charge what they like
- Spoken to a solicitor and they reckon I should write a letter to the company demanding a refund or report the company for 'Phoniex trading' - might work but not quite sure.. worth a try, they say
Next Steps
1. Will verify if the road is actually private road or the board just says private and the company actually cashed in..
2. Solicitors reckon - double yellow lines cannot be put up on private roads- they need to have counsel permission and approval
Any solictors on this forum, please?
There is some truth in that. My office is on a 'Private' industrial estate and I Had a problem with a parking ticket, which I Did get rescinded. Local Council Parking Enforcement have major problems with these places, particularly with clamping, seems the law is a minefield with many many loop holes >:(
How did you get it rescinded? I would love to challenge the double yellow lines on a private road..that seems to the the only major point I have at the moment.
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Unfortunately, had to fork out cash
They refused any form of payment other than cash?
If so, the alarm bells would have already been ringing and I'd have called the old bill at that point.
I checked with them later on and they said they cannot help as it is written on the notice board the only accepted form of payment is Cash - the clamping company get away with a murder as long as it is mentioned on the notice... what a world...
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What you need is a lot of Omegas with large drivers to park up there.
Clampers are just thugs so are therefore legitimate targets
Sounds like a mini-meet to me! ::) ::) :y :y
Sounds like a plan - but I don't want any one of us to be clamped or punished as I can't get over it and am really angry a part of me wants to be on the other side of the law just to get my anger out... :-[
Doesn't bode well if the parking fine is meant to ensure you stay on the right side of the law..
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What you need is a lot of Omegas with large drivers to park up there.
Clampers are just thugs so are therefore legitimate targets
Sounds like a mini-meet to me! ::) ::) :y :y
Sounds like a plan - but I don't want any one of us to be clamped or punished as I can't get over it and am really angry a part of me wants to be on the other side of the law just to get my anger out... :-[
Doesn't bode well if the parking fine is meant to ensure you stay on the right side of the law..
Just make sure there is a disc cutter
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What you need is a lot of Omegas with large drivers to park up there.
Clampers are just thugs so are therefore legitimate targets
Sounds like a mini-meet to me! ::) ::) :y :y
Sounds like a plan - but I don't want any one of us to be clamped or punished as I can't get over it and am really angry a part of me wants to be on the other side of the law just to get my anger out... :-[
Doesn't bode well if the parking fine is meant to ensure you stay on the right side of the law..
Just make sure there is a disc cutter
I thought it was classed as criminal damage if you damaged the clamp ::) ::) ::)
It was the only good thing about Citroen's hydrolastic suspension... Drop it to it's lowest setting and they couldn't get the clamp on :y :y
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What you need is a lot of Omegas with large drivers to park up there.
Clampers are just thugs so are therefore legitimate targets
Sounds like a mini-meet to me! ::) ::) :y :y
Sounds like a plan - but I don't want any one of us to be clamped or punished as I can't get over it and am really angry a part of me wants to be on the other side of the law just to get my anger out... :-[
Doesn't bode well if the parking fine is meant to ensure you stay on the right side of the law..
Just make sure there is a disc cutter
I thought it was classed as criminal damage if you damaged the clamp ::) ::) ::)
It was the only good thing about Citroen's hydrolastic suspension... Drop it to it's lowest setting and they couldn't get the clamp on :y :y
It is and is illegal to remove one. But I would have thought that only to be true on councel setups and not what may well end up being an illegal opperation.
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What you need is a lot of Omegas with large drivers to park up there.
Clampers are just thugs so are therefore legitimate targets
Sounds like a mini-meet to me! ::) ::) :y :y
Sounds like a plan - but I don't want any one of us to be clamped or punished as I can't get over it and am really angry a part of me wants to be on the other side of the law just to get my anger out... :-[
Doesn't bode well if the parking fine is meant to ensure you stay on the right side of the law..
Just make sure there is a disc cutter
I thought it was classed as criminal damage if you damaged the clamp ::) ::) ::)
It was the only good thing about Citroen's hydrolastic suspension... Drop it to it's lowest setting and they couldn't get the clamp on :y :y
It is and is illegal to remove one. But I would have thought that only to be true on councel setups and not what may well end up being an illegal opperation.
I thought you were entitled to remove it providing there is no damage caused... If you can let the tyres down you can do it by removing the wheel ::) ::)
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Sorry to hear of your experience - do you have any insurance that would cover the cost of any legal fees e.g. with your motor or house policy or AA? If so, then it could be wrth having a chat with them.
I hope things work out!
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What you need is a lot of Omegas with large drivers to park up there.
Clampers are just thugs so are therefore legitimate targets
Sounds like a mini-meet to me! ::) ::) :y :y
Sounds like a plan - but I don't want any one of us to be clamped or punished as I can't get over it and am really angry a part of me wants to be on the other side of the law just to get my anger out... :-[
Doesn't bode well if the parking fine is meant to ensure you stay on the right side of the law..
Just make sure there is a disc cutter
I thought it was classed as criminal damage if you damaged the clamp ::) ::) ::)
It was the only good thing about Citroen's hydrolastic suspension... Drop it to it's lowest setting and they couldn't get the clamp on :y :y
They have to prove it, I wonder what the scrap value is?
Anyway if it is left attached to my car it is now my property to do with as I wish.
Cold chisling is fun! :y
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What you need is a lot of Omegas with large drivers to park up there.
Clampers are just thugs so are therefore legitimate targets
Sounds like a mini-meet to me! ::) ::) :y :y
Sounds like a plan - but I don't want any one of us to be clamped or punished as I can't get over it and am really angry a part of me wants to be on the other side of the law just to get my anger out... :-[
Doesn't bode well if the parking fine is meant to ensure you stay on the right side of the law..
Just make sure there is a disc cutter
I thought it was classed as criminal damage if you damaged the clamp ::) ::) ::)
It was the only good thing about Citroen's hydrolastic suspension... Drop it to it's lowest setting and they couldn't get the clamp on :y :y
It is and is illegal to remove one. But I would have thought that only to be true on councel setups and not what may well end up being an illegal opperation.
Just have to make sure they don't find out :-X
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The old trick was to jack the car up and let the tyre down.
You could then move the clamp enough to get at the wheel bolts.
Remove the wheel and slide the clamp off then fit the spare.
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What you need is a lot of Omegas with large drivers to park up there.
Clampers are just thugs so are therefore legitimate targets
Sounds like a mini-meet to me! ::) ::) :y :y
Sounds like a plan - but I don't want any one of us to be clamped or punished as I can't get over it and am really angry a part of me wants to be on the other side of the law just to get my anger out... :-[
Doesn't bode well if the parking fine is meant to ensure you stay on the right side of the law..
I'm in :y
18 stone rugby player 8-) and lets just say fighting is one part of my job (fixing you after is the other ;D ;D :y)
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This is one of those events that may be worth keeping a can of expanding foam in the car, next time you go shopping then sneak up behind thier van and fill thier exhaust pipe with it and casually walk away. ::)
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8141471.stm
Interesting read :y
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And http://uk.news.yahoo.com/21/20090709/tuk-wheelclamping-charges-are-illegal-6323e80.html
Dr Elliott said: "The Home Office is proposing a new licensing regime for private clampers, but it is arguable that, if the release fee is unreasonable, their actions are incompatible with the Human Rights Act 1998 which demands that punishment should only come after a proper legal process."
He went on: "The purpose of clamping is to prevent a vehicle being removed from land it should not be on. On the face of it, clamping is perverse since it causes the harm to the landowner to persist. It is in effect a 'self-inflicted wound.'"
"The tactic only makes sense either to punish or deter. Both have little foundation in English law, since they are based on a notion that one person may punish another. But punishment is a power reserved to the state."
Sue the clamping Person and Company for infringing your human rights. :y
Ken
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8141471.stm
Interesting read :y
Yes Gaffers it is, and hopefully the pressure is rising yet again to finally deal with this 'cowboy' infested criminal industry. 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)
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Great read. Good to note something is happening on this front.
I checked the human rights angle with my solictor the other day and they reckon as long as the amount is mentioned on the board you are expected to read it and decide for yourself. In the current circumstances it is very difficult to argue - would have been best if I would not have paid at all and asked them to tow the vechicle and mentioned I will fight it out in the court
From the BBC article http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8141471.stm
"The Home Office is proposing a new licensing regime for private clampers but it is arguable that, if the release fee is unreasonable, their actions are incompatible with the Human Rights Act 1998, which demands that punishment should only come after a proper legal process"
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Great read. Good to note something is happening on this front.
I checked the human rights angle with my solictor the other day and they reckon as long as the amount is mentioned on the board you are expected to read it and decide for yourself. In the current circumstances it is very difficult to argue - would have been best if I would not have paid at all and asked them to tow the vechicle and mentioned I will fight it out in the court
From the BBC article http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8141471.stm
"The Home Office is proposing a new licensing regime for private clampers but it is arguable that, if the release fee is unreasonable, their actions are incompatible with the Human Rights Act 1998, which demands that punishment should only come after a proper legal process"
But GC have you raised the issues, apart from the others, of
a) your car was not left unattended, the initial critera of the clamping firms rules & regulations
and
b) your car was not towed away, so why the charge for doing so?
;) ;)
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AS you have paid the monies out, the only way you'll get it back is via the courts.
I would be issuing a claim in the small claims court, citing their breaches of their rules .. the car was not unattended ... :)
It doesn't cost a lot and in my experience firms back down quite quickly once faced with a court case.
https://www.moneyclaim.gov.uk/csmco2/index.jsp
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Latest update on my specific case
Writing a letter to the company's appeals division i.e. regional clamping services, appeals division. Fingers crossed something will work out. :y
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Great read. Good to note something is happening on this front.
I checked the human rights angle with my solictor the other day and they reckon as long as the amount is mentioned on the board you are expected to read it and decide for yourself. In the current circumstances it is very difficult to argue - would have been best if I would not have paid at all and asked them to tow the vechicle and mentioned I will fight it out in the court
From the BBC article http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8141471.stm
"The Home Office is proposing a new licensing regime for private clampers but it is arguable that, if the release fee is unreasonable, their actions are incompatible with the Human Rights Act 1998, which demands that punishment should only come after a proper legal process"
But GC have you raised the issues, apart from the others, of
a) your car was not left unattended, the initial critera of the clamping firms rules & regulations
and
b) your car was not towed away, so why the charge for doing so?
;) ;)
answer to a) the company says unattended or unlawfully parked. I was unlawfully parked on the double yellow lines
(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt128/suhasmadhekar/Parkingcondition.jpg)
answer to b) towing charge applies straight away because they call the towing company even if people are there in the car. Sounds stupid but they insist a towing van was called, even I know it was called because they towed another car away. So why charge me?
(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt128/suhasmadhekar/Towingcharge.jpg)
I have been asked to write to the appeals manager citing the specific scenario including towing. Will keep you posted how it goes.
Please let me know if they are talking bullXXXX here or if I have a stronger point there.
Called consumer direct to check what they mean by 'Parking' - is it applicable only when there is no one in the car and if private companies should wait for a certain time before clamping - their reply, sorry there are no rules at the moment.. :-[ :-[
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This topic maybe be a little old. But I found it on google. 3 Hours ago I was clamped in Hounslow West by the exact same company. I was fined 320 pounds, okay heres the story...
I went to my local pizza shop in Hounslow West, parked opposite a pub on a car park that I have parked on for years. So obvoisly I didnt take notice of the sign and this was at 10:15 at night. I have never been fined or clamped there before. This sign has appeared out of nowhere!
I came back just after I ordered my food and had a look at my car just for the sake of it, it was fine. Went back to check on the pizza, there was no queue so it was pretty quick 10 minutes. I came back and my car was clamped.
So within 5 minutes I was clamped. The tow truck was down the road parked up behind a construction truck. I had to cash out money but only got 280 pounds as my card limit was reached. Went home by a cab and got money of my sister for the rest. Then I payed the man. He didnt even accept my 280 pounds.
There was a police car parked opposite the road, he said if you dont believe me ask them. I was so angry I didnt know what to do as the notice was there and I was in the wrong.
BUT 320 pounds is WAY TOO much. By the way the notice board was EXACTLY THE SAME. The handwriting on the fine looks exacly the same but the signature and name is different?!?!
I cant do nothing as there is no law to stop campers in London. They can charge whatever they wish, 1000 pounds if they want!
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The cab also said it was a hotspot. Everynight they clamp between 3-4 cars on the same car park. Once he said 10 cars were clamped in one night. The cabs office is right oppisite the mini carpark. For those of you who dont know its were somerfield used to be as it is closed down now.
Can I fight back against these people. I coundn't help but pay the man said if I dont pay within 15 minutes they would tow my car away and the truck was waiting for me! 5 minutes after I had been clamped!
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hm0 - is this your story or someone else's story from google?
Well - an update on my part (as this thread will be moved to the top), I am now waiting to hear on my appeal and am determined to take up to small claims court if needed.
The company only wants me to send an email via email and the signed for post has not been delivered yet (I posted and emailed on 14-July 2009)
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From the pics before I wondered if they had just been "added overnight". I think it may be worth checking with your local councel to see what you can find oit.
This company is obviously preuing on motorists and at 10:16pm is trally taking the pee.
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hm0 - is this your story or someone else's story from google?
Well - an update on my part (as this thread will be moved to the top), I am now waiting to hear on my appeal and am determined to take up to small claims court if needed.
The company only wants me to send an email via email and the signed for post has not been delivered yet (I posted and emailed on 14-July 2009)
They obviously dont want anything in writting. Keep a diary of your actions for when you go to coart and explain the email.
Also write to watchdog as I reckpn there will allready be a big case file on this company.
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Forgot to mention - story already on watchdog and thanks for reminding I need to add the bit about lack of postal delivery..
Local counsel says "then have nothing to do with this as it is a private road" and if you reckon the company is not acting fairly then we can't help either.
Makes me wonder, if there is someone (directly or indirectly) from the counsel on the board of this company. The double yellow lines where I parked are certaintly not required and the cousel roads which have those restrictions and cause actual issues no one is ever bothered...
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Makes me wonder, if there is someone (directly or indirectly) from the counsel on the board of this company. The double yellow lines where I parked are certaintly not required and the cousel roads which have those restrictions and cause actual issues no one is ever bothered...
Interesting point there regards the yellow lines.
If a private road then are yellow lines legal.
If private then what laws, rules and regualtions can be enforced.
Time to look into the law, also is it worth finding out if you can contact others and club together for solicitors advice (as they as so flipping exspensive)
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YES ITS ME WHO GOT CLAMPED. ITS NOT A STORY OFF THE INTERNET. I GOT CLAMPED LAST NIGHT BY THESE MUGS!
Can I join you as something in court. Im going to the police station now and gonna look if the clampers are still parking at the end of the road waiting for people.
ohhh sorry I just read it again... I meant I found the topic you made!
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Sorry for double post but I can post pictures of my "clamping receipt "
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Okay I just came back with video footage of the clampers in the same street at it again. They clamped another vehicle. The same people.
I called them up to verify the VI number, the man was roud (infact I should of recorded this for you guys). I said it must be on your database, he said im not your slave search google. So I got home and searched for veryfing VI numbers and I called him again and he said its my problem and hanged up!
I have a feeling this is a huge scam. Im going to the police station, maybe tomorrow and find out whether I can verify the VI number, The writing looks similar to the person who made this topics receipt.
I also noted there number plate down. They drove off when they saw me recording them. Im planning to catch them in the corner waiting for people to come. Also I live close so its easy for me.
I know this may not lead me anywere but its worth a try.
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Videoing them - send it to watchdog as well