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Title: I was wrong about peak oil theory
Post by: Banjax on 03 August 2009, 10:45:15
Oil won't run out after 2030 as had been thought......
......more like 2020!

oh, and here's the kicker - after 2010 we're entering an "oil crunch" that will cripple our economy - looks like US may be invading Iran sooner than we thought  :y

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/warning-oil-supplies-are-running-out-fast-1766585.html
Title: Re: I was wrong about peak oil theory
Post by: Gaffers on 03 August 2009, 10:50:11
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Oil won't run out after 2030 as had been thought......
......more like 2020!

oh, and here's the kicker - after 2010 we're entering an "oil crunch" that will cripple our economy - looks like US may be invading Iran sooner than we thought  :y

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/warning-oil-supplies-are-running-out-fast-1766585.html


Iran doesn't have much oil, hence it's nuclear energy requirements
Title: Re: I was wrong about peak oil theory
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 03 August 2009, 10:56:05
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Oil won't run out after 2030 as had been thought......
......more like 2020!

oh, and here's the kicker - after 2010 we're entering an "oil crunch" that will cripple our economy - looks like US may be invading Iran sooner than we thought  :y

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/warning-oil-supplies-are-running-out-fast-1766585.html


That's OK the bj - you had me worried there for a moment ::) ::) :y
Title: Re: I was wrong about peak oil theory
Post by: Banjax on 03 August 2009, 10:59:48
Iran contains around 137 billion barrels, thats more than USA, Russia and China combined! only Saudi Arabia has more - I'd say they're a major player - and its the reason the US needs to take Iran.

maybe i'm being simplistic - but oil is the only concern - its why we're in Iraq, it's why we're in Afghanistan (for the pipeline) and it's why we need to be in Iran.
Title: Re: I was wrong about peak oil theory
Post by: Banjax on 03 August 2009, 11:01:29
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Oil won't run out after 2030 as had been thought......
......more like 2020!

oh, and here's the kicker - after 2010 we're entering an "oil crunch" that will cripple our economy - looks like US may be invading Iran sooner than we thought  :y

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/warning-oil-supplies-are-running-out-fast-1766585.html


That's OK the bj - you had me worried there for a moment ::) ::) :y

i worry myself sometimes  ::)
Title: Re: I was wrong about peak oil theory
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 03 August 2009, 11:05:50
There's always an alternative point of view.......



http://peakoildebunked.blogspot.com/



but this is also interesting....



[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaquBOueqNM&feature=player_embedded[/media]


Title: Re: I was wrong about peak oil theory
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 03 August 2009, 11:07:28
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Iran contains around 137 billion barrels, thats more than USA, Russia and China combined! only Saudi Arabia has more - I'd say they're a major player - and its the reason the US needs to take Iran.

maybe i'm being simplistic - but oil is the only concern - its why we're in Iraq, it's why we're in Afghanistan (for the pipeline) and it's why we need to be in Iran.


I hope that this isn't the warmonger coming out in you bj? ;D ;D
Title: Re: I was wrong about peak oil theory
Post by: Brick Tamland on 03 August 2009, 11:18:14
Load of 'dangle berries'. Here's an Irish independent article from 4 years ago about this problem. Saying that "peak oil" will be in 2011.

http://www.independent.ie/world-news/scientists-warn-that-oil-will-start-to-run-out-in-four-years-time-701870.html

Same as global warming rubbish, just more media hype.
Title: Re: I was wrong about peak oil theory
Post by: Banjax on 03 August 2009, 11:21:30
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Iran contains around 137 billion barrels, thats more than USA, Russia and China combined! only Saudi Arabia has more - I'd say they're a major player - and its the reason the US needs to take Iran.

maybe i'm being simplistic - but oil is the only concern - its why we're in Iraq, it's why we're in Afghanistan (for the pipeline) and it's why we need to be in Iran.


I hope that this isn't the warmonger coming out in you bj? ;D ;D


not at all - i just think that if you're goin to shed blood for oil - at least admit it   :y

besides, the US won't have a choice soon - they'll need Irans oil
Title: Re: I was wrong about peak oil theory
Post by: tunnie on 03 August 2009, 11:29:14
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Iran contains around 137 billion barrels, thats more than USA, Russia and China combined! only Saudi Arabia has more - I'd say they're a major player - and its the reason the US needs to take Iran.

maybe i'm being simplistic - but oil is the only concern - its why we're in Iraq, it's why we're in Afghanistan (for the pipeline) and it's why we need to be in Iran.


I hope that this isn't the warmonger coming out in you bj? ;D ;D


not at all - i just think that if you're goin to shed blood for oil - at least admit it   :y

besides, the US won't have a choice soon - they'll need Irans oil

There is no doubt for me the Iraq war was for oil, weapons of mass destruction (which were never found) was just an excuse to get in.

We also 'bought' our way in, i remember seeing an interesting doucmentry on the behind the scenes stuff that went on.

Considering Iraq had a fairly strong Air Force, we never heard of any dog fights or air-air combat, why? They paid off the Air Force General, with a fat load of cash to keep his planes on the ground.

Saldy, the Americans won't be able to buy their way into Iran, and who ever is Prime Minister when they decide to go in, should have the balls to say "No, we are not helping you"
Title: Re: I was wrong about peak oil theory
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 03 August 2009, 11:39:04
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Iran contains around 137 billion barrels, thats more than USA, Russia and China combined! only Saudi Arabia has more - I'd say they're a major player - and its the reason the US needs to take Iran.

maybe i'm being simplistic - but oil is the only concern - its why we're in Iraq, it's why we're in Afghanistan (for the pipeline) and it's why we need to be in Iran.


I hope that this isn't the warmonger coming out in you bj? ;D ;D


not at all - i just think that if you're goin to shed blood for oil - at least admit it   :y

besides, the US won't have a choice soon - they'll need Irans oil

There is no doubt for me the Iraq war was for oil, weapons of mass destruction (which were never found) was just an excuse to get in.

We also 'bought' our way in, i remember seeing an interesting doucmentry on the behind the scenes stuff that went on.

Considering Iraq had a fairly strong Air Force, we never heard of any dog fights or air-air combat, why? They paid off the Air Force General, with a fat load of cash to keep his planes on the ground.

Saldy, the Americans won't be able to buy their way into Iran, and who ever is Prime Minister when they decide to go in, should have the balls to say "No, we are not helping you"


Unilateral action by Israel may make this a moot point however - despite any entreaties by the US to the contrary :-/

Title: Re: I was wrong about peak oil theory
Post by: Banjax on 03 August 2009, 11:39:50
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Load of 'dangle berries'. Here's an Irish independent article from 4 years ago about this problem. Saying that "peak oil" will be in 2011.

http://www.independent.ie/world-news/scientists-warn-that-oil-will-start-to-run-out-in-four-years-time-701870.html

Same as global warming rubbish, just more media hype.


global warming may be debatable (at least the causes of it) but saying you don't think oil will run out?
it's a simple maths problem -
how much oil do we use?
how much oil do we produce?
how much oil is left?

now, lets say all the oil in the ground was available right now (roughly 1200 000 000 000 barrels)
we use, as a planet 85 000 000 barrels a day
- thats less than 40 yrs
add to that the fact that oil consumption is increasing year on year which i havent even factored in
also thats assuming all the oil left could be teleported straight to the surface!

Title: Re: I was wrong about peak oil theory
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 03 August 2009, 11:42:23
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Iran contains around 137 billion barrels, thats more than USA, Russia and China combined! only Saudi Arabia has more - I'd say they're a major player - and its the reason the US needs to take Iran.

maybe i'm being simplistic - but oil is the only concern - its why we're in Iraq, it's why we're in Afghanistan (for the pipeline) and it's why we need to be in Iran.


I hope that this isn't the warmonger coming out in you bj? ;D ;D


not at all - i just think that if you're goin to shed blood for oil - at least admit it   :y

besides, the US won't have a choice soon - they'll need Irans oil


Agreed bj - it's worth that at least - concerning your potential in all things bellicose, I was led to this by the sight of your new avatar ;D ;D :y
Title: Re: I was wrong about peak oil theory
Post by: Brick Tamland on 03 August 2009, 11:54:40
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Load of 'dangle berries'. Here's an Irish independent article from 4 years ago about this problem. Saying that "peak oil" will be in 2011.

http://www.independent.ie/world-news/scientists-warn-that-oil-will-start-to-run-out-in-four-years-time-701870.html

Same as global warming rubbish, just more media hype.


global warming may be debatable (at least the causes of it) but saying you don't think oil will run out?
it's a simple maths problem -
how much oil do we use?
how much oil do we produce?
how much oil is left?

now, lets say all the oil in the ground was available right now (roughly 1200 000 000 000 barrels)
we use, as a planet 85 000 000 barrels a day
- thats less than 40 yrs
add to that the fact that oil consumption is increasing year on year which i havent even factored in
also thats assuming all the oil left could be teleported straight to the surface!


Of corse oil will run out but I dont think it will be for along time yet.
Title: Re: I was wrong about peak oil theory
Post by: Banjax on 03 August 2009, 12:32:47
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Iran contains around 137 billion barrels, thats more than USA, Russia and China combined! only Saudi Arabia has more - I'd say they're a major player - and its the reason the US needs to take Iran.

maybe i'm being simplistic - but oil is the only concern - its why we're in Iraq, it's why we're in Afghanistan (for the pipeline) and it's why we need to be in Iran.


I hope that this isn't the warmonger coming out in you bj? ;D ;D


not at all - i just think that if you're goin to shed blood for oil - at least admit it   :y

besides, the US won't have a choice soon - they'll need Irans oil


Agreed bj - it's worth that at least - concerning your potential in all things bellicose, I was led to this by the sight of your new avatar ;D ;D :y

change is as good as a rest  :y
Title: Re: I was wrong about peak oil theory
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 03 August 2009, 17:18:51
Ever since my teens all I have heard is that oil is going to run out.......year in, year out, along with the claim that wars will be fought over drinking water!!

Yet, in the case of oil, we get new reports over the decades that a new oil field with "many billions of barrels" has been found!

What is a better way for the oil industry to maintain and justify high prices, especially at the garage fuel pumps, than claim "oil is running out"??   They are playing the supply and demand game to perfection to their advantage!

Am I just being cynical??  I don't think so as I have now "been here" in the 1960s, 1970s, 1980s, 1990s and now 2000s!!  Why should I think any different?? :P :P :P
Title: Re: I was wrong about peak oil theory
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 03 August 2009, 17:44:32
Where are the keys to my V8...  [smiley=evil.gif]
Title: Re: I was wrong about peak oil theory
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 03 August 2009, 17:51:24
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Where are the keys to my V8...  [smiley=evil.gif]


...what about that V6 James? ;D ;D :y
Title: Re: I was wrong about peak oil theory
Post by: waspy on 03 August 2009, 17:56:01
I'm off to buy a horse :P :P