Omega Owners Forum
Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: nixoro on 27 February 2007, 14:29:23
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Basically I have been watching an Item it has no reserve but in the listing has a buy it now price within the text but no buy it now button.
I contacted the seller during lunch only to be told if the bid doesn't reach the buy it now figure the item will not be released, surely he cannot do this as he has no reserve on it.
I asked the seller why he hadn't put a reserve on and I was told he didn't know how to.
Where do I stand, I would have put a bid on but what issues could come about.
If I one the bid it would be cash on collection.
Any responses would be much appreciated
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If you win and he doesn't ship he'll be breaking the 'ebay contract' for what thats worth, so probably just negative feedback.. best to see if you actually win and then contact him before going round there I reckon..
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Couple of things...
The seller is in breach of e-bay rules by operating this way. As he has no reserve, it costs the seller less to list. Saves perhaps 50 pence, but hey ho.... By listing that he will not sell unless it makes £XX be would thus be defaulting on the selling procedures. I would be tempted to report it...
If you bid and win at £1.57 or whatever, then its a contract to sell to you at that price. If you were to go and collect and pay cash, who knows what condition it would then be in (cuts, tears etc...) or how big/angry the seller is etc and how confrontational it would all be.
Bottom line? I would not touch it. Not worth the grief.
Its all well and good being on the correct moral high ground with all the legalese backing, but I could not be ar*ed with the potential grief and stress.
HtH
B
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If you win and he doesn't ship he'll be breaking the 'ebay contract' for what thats worth, so probably just negative feedback.. best to see if you actually win and then contact him before going round there I reckon..
Basically its a cash on collection purchase, as Item is to big to post.
I had a feeling the Ebay Contract would come into it. Shall do a little research as he will be breaking it
Just abit miffed how he can say he will not release the Item if the Buy it now figure is met.
No reserve item so imo it should go for the highest bid.
My thoughts at the moment are walk away
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Couple of things...
The seller is in breach of e-bay rules by operating this way. As he has no reserve, it costs the seller less to list. Saves perhaps 50 pence, but hey ho.... By listing that he will not sell unless it makes £XX be would thus be defaulting on the selling procedures. I would be tempted to report it...
If you bid and win at £1.57 or whatever, then its a contract to sell to you at that price. If you were to go and collect and pay cash, who knows what condition it would then be in (cuts, tears etc...) or how big/angry the seller is etc and how confrontational it would all be.
Bottom line? I would not touch it. Not worth the grief.
Its all well and good being on the correct moral high ground with all the legalese backing, but I could not be ar*ed with the potential grief and stress.
HtH
B
Cheers for the advice Broocie
I was gonna place a bid but thought best to query the listing 1st.
I was keen on the item but now its not worth it.
The actual Item was local and was going to be a present for my dad so kind of gutted but I'm glad i didn't bid, others will come about eventually.
Cheers all who responded
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I would be tempted to report it...
Two other people have bid on it I'm wondering if they know.
Perhaps I should report it, bidding finishes today though :-/
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Stuff him/her. Report them. It's people like that that give e-bay a bad name. >:(
The seller will also be charged a sold fee at the end of the auction, regardsless of whether they hand it over or not. ;D
Good luck to them. >:(
Jeeeeez, I've just reread that, and it would seem that I have strong feelings about the subject. :-/
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I would be tempted to report it...
Two other people have bid on it I'm wondering if they know.
Perhaps I should report it, bidding finishes today though :-/
I would check the feedback histories of these bidders.
Shil bidding by the seller is also quite naughty..... ie the seller and the bidder is one and the same with different user names, just to bump the end price up.
B
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Stuff him/her. Report them. It's people like that that give e-bay a bad name. >:(
The seller will also be charged a sold fee at the end of the auction, regardsless of whether they hand it over or not. ;D
Good luck to them. >:(
Jeeeeez, I've just reread that, and it would seem that I have strong feelings about the subject. :-/
Well I have just contacted Ebay so shall see what happens.
It may get cancelled before the time up but having had similar before someone may end up having problems getting the goods they bid on.
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also sounds like fee evasion - reserves cost money and he has avoided paying this as well :(
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I would be tempted to report it...
Two other people have bid on it I'm wondering if they know.
Perhaps I should report it, bidding finishes today though :-/
I would check the feedback histories of these bidders.
Shil bidding by the seller is also quite naughty..... ie the seller and the bidder is one and the same with different user names, just to bump the end price up.
B
Just checked the other 2 bidders, 1 is from lancashire and the other from the Isle of Wight both have high feedback.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=012&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=220084744079&rd=1&rd=1
This was the item I was going to go for.
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hmmm and a 0 rated ebayer too :-/
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hmmm and a 0 rated ebayer too :-/
Yeah he said he was new to ebay.
Think i will report it. My details shouldn't be given or will they.
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don't go near it, Not even with someone else's barge-pole.
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Sorted now reported
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I would too have suggested straight away reporting the seller
if a seller lists an item without a reserve he MUST agree to sell for the winning bid amount. if he wants a certain amount he must state a reserve price in its appropriate place on the listing (minimum £50 by ebay rules)
he's basically only listed this way to avoid the fees he'd have had to pay for a reserve auction
the risk you run of being the high bidder at auction close is that he's extremely likely to leave you negative feedback if your bid isnt what he wants and you refuse to pay more than your winning bid, then you'd have to fart about complaining thru ebay to have the feedback removed!
Danny (ebayers anonymous)
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I would too have suggested straight away reporting the seller
if a seller lists an item without a reserve he MUST agree to sell for the winning bid amount. if he wants a certain amount he must state a reserve price in its appropriate place on the listing (minimum £50 by ebay rules)
he's basically only listed this way to avoid the fees he'd have had to pay for a reserve auction
the risk you run of being the high bidder at auction close is that he's extremely likely to leave you negative feedback if your bid isnt what he wants and you refuse to pay more than your winning bid, then you'd have to fart about complaining thru ebay to have the feedback removed!
Danny (ebayers anonymous)
Cheers Danny
I have reported it to ebay but I noticed someone else has bid aswell so good luck to them just hope ebay pulls the plug in time.
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Ebay contracts are not worth anyting. All you have to do is claim you have noticed damage on the item or lost it and you can end the listing. If it has already ended you just file with ebay to say the same and it all goes away in a very convenient manner.
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You were going to buy that for your Dad, with that interior? :P ;D
Don't you get on with him or something? ;D ;D
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You were going to buy that for your Dad, with that interior? :P ;D
Don't you get on with him or something? ;D ;D
I no what you mean but I currently have my old interior still which I was going to put in it ;D
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I see the item is 'no longer available' - strange that!!
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I see the item is 'no longer available' - strange that!!
Blimey I didn't think they were gonna cancel it straight away Result :y
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the problem with ebay is that it is virtually unregulated, and ebay take no responsibility for dodgy people selling stolen or broken items
trouble is, ebay are so big that if you are selling something, you need to use them
i am currently selling my lovely omega on ebay, so will report back on the experience!
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the problem with ebay is that it is virtually unregulated, and ebay take no responsibility for dodgy people selling stolen or broken items
trouble is, ebay are so big that if you are selling something, you need to use them
i am currently selling my lovely omega on ebay, so will report back on the experience!
Indeed it is, but remember what I told you about the cambelt!! ;)
Oh and good luck....