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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: ohmegod on 29 January 2007, 18:27:44
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Dont dispair chaps if your Omega has niggles.
I had two interesting journeys to and from work today.
Going the old MV6 manual-impresivley realed in a Lotus Elise with ease (on a straight of course).
And on my return journey home again impresivley realed in a Mazda RX-8.......(mazda was the quicker of the two).
Not bad for a 100k Omega for about a grand.
Any of you guys had similar experiances and indeed when youve been thrashed by something??
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Dont dispair chaps if your Omega has niggles.
I had two interesting journeys to and from work today.
Going the old MV6 manual-impresivley realed in a Lotus Elise with ease (on a straight of course).
And on my return journey home again impresivley realed in a Mazda RX-8.......(mazda was the quicker of the two).
Not bad for a 100k Omega for about a grand.
Any of you guys had similar experiances and indeed when youve been thrashed by something??
in the Omega, beat a beemer 330 who thought he was quick - just outdragged him up the A43 out of northampton. Also, in Omega, got trounced by a Jag - was wet and he got better drive of roundabout to keep level up the A420 leaving Botley, and mine went twitchy on the next bend so had to lift. Gutted, but he must have been 4x4 for that stability...
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Pulled in a couple of so called "fast" beemers and mercs
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Dont dispair chaps if your Omega has niggles.
I had two interesting journeys to and from work today.
Going the old MV6 manual-impresivley realed in a Lotus Elise with ease (on a straight of course).
And on my return journey home again impresivley realed in a Mazda RX-8.......(mazda was the quicker of the two).
Not bad for a 100k Omega for about a grand.
Any of you guys had similar experiances and indeed when youve been thrashed by something??
in the Omega, beat a beemer 330 who thought he was quick - just outdragged him up the A43 out of northampton. Also, in Omega, got trounced by a Jag - was wet and he got better drive of roundabout to keep level up the A420 leaving Botley, and mine went twitchy on the next bend so had to lift. Gutted, but he must have been 4x4 for that stability...
What jag was it? not the mondeo in disguise one?
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My favourite (sort of) sleeper that I have owned was my BMW 540i Touring. Was an estate, so didn't look sporty, but it didn't half shift. It was much, much quicker than the 3.0 Omega's I have owned and was great fun. It would happily reach its 155 mph speed limiter on ... certain test tracks and could reel in most cars with very liitle drama :)
I paid £4500 back in 2002 which for a seven year old £41,000 car was quite good :)
(http://www.steve.dwest.dsl.pipex.com/osf1.jpg)
(http://www.steve.dwest.dsl.pipex.com/lastday2.jpg)
I want it back now :(
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When I had the MV6 I beat a Renault Scenic off a roundabout - he was really upset.
I was dropping off my caravan for repair and service ;D ;D
I had a Diseasel people carrier on Telegraph Hill - only lost me eventually down hill because I won't go over 70 indicated when towing - this was the 2.0 :o
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am sick to death of having to crucify golf gti turbos and bimmer rep mobiles on the 30 mile trek to work... however on saturday nearly got owned by a st220 but he didnt have the testicles!!!!! :P ::) and i aint got my Mtek chip ......yet( supposidly in the post!!!)
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am sick to death of having to crucify golf gti turbos and bimmer rep mobiles on the 30 mile trek to work... however on saturday nearly got owned by a st220 but he didnt have the testicles!!!!! :P ::) and i aint got my Mtek chip ......yet( supposidly in the post!!!)
LOL..............Those mondeos ;D >:(
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My favourite (sort of) sleeper that I have owned was my BMW 540i Touring. Was an estate, so didn't look sporty, but it didn't half shift. It was much, much quicker than the 3.0 Omega's I have owned and was great fun. It would happily reach its 155 mph speed limiter on ... certain test tracks and could reel in most cars with very liitle drama :)
I paid £4500 back in 2002 which for a seven year old £41,000 car was quite good :)
(http://www.steve.dwest.dsl.pipex.com/osf1.jpg)
(http://www.steve.dwest.dsl.pipex.com/lastday2.jpg)
I want it back now :(
Nice beemer..........was it V8? or straight six?
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am sick to death of having to crucify golf gti turbos and bimmer rep mobiles on the 30 mile trek to work... however on saturday nearly got owned by a st220 but he didnt have the testicles!!!!! :P ::) and i aint got my Mtek chip ......yet( supposidly in the post!!!)
Its well worth the wait for the chip. I went out yesterday for the first time without the wife and the car feels so much faster :y
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My favourite (sort of) sleeper that I have owned was my BMW 540i Touring. Was an estate, so didn't look sporty, but it didn't half shift. It was much, much quicker than the 3.0 Omega's I have owned and was great fun. It would happily reach its 155 mph speed limiter on ... certain test tracks and could reel in most cars with very liitle drama :)
I paid £4500 back in 2002 which for a seven year old £41,000 car was quite good :)
(http://www.steve.dwest.dsl.pipex.com/osf1.jpg)
(http://www.steve.dwest.dsl.pipex.com/lastday2.jpg)
I want it back now :(
Nice beemer..........was it V8? or straight six?
4.0 V8.
Had 286 Bhp & 295 lb/ft. Made it quite entertaining :)
(http://www.steve.dwest.dsl.pipex.com/540t5.jpg)
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My favourite (sort of) sleeper that I have owned was my BMW 540i Touring. Was an estate, so didn't look sporty, but it didn't half shift. It was much, much quicker than the 3.0 Omega's I have owned and was great fun. It would happily reach its 155 mph speed limiter on ... certain test tracks and could reel in most cars with very liitle drama :)
I paid £4500 back in 2002 which for a seven year old £41,000 car was quite good :)
(http://www.steve.dwest.dsl.pipex.com/osf1.jpg)
(http://www.steve.dwest.dsl.pipex.com/lastday2.jpg)
I want it back now :(
Nice beemer..........was it V8? or straight six?
4.0 V8.
Had 286 Bhp & 295 lb/ft. Made it quite entertaining :)
I can easily beat that!! ;D ;D
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This was my other 540i that I had at the same time.
(http://www.steve.dwest.dsl.pipex.com/kosf1.jpg)
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in the Omega, beat a beemer 330 who thought he was quick - just outdragged him up the A43 out of northampton. Also, in Omega, got trounced by a Jag - was wet and he got better drive of roundabout to keep level up the A420 leaving Botley, and mine went twitchy on the next bend so had to lift. Gutted, but he must have been 4x4 for that stability...
Guy in the 330 must have been a crap driver, cos my dad's got one (330Ci coupe manual) and it will easily pull away from my MV6 and that's a manual. They're about 230 BHP and a few hundred Kg lighter. Electronically limited to 155MPH at the top end. It's quite a peaky engine though (similar to the Omega's) so you do need to drive it properly -- i.e. at least 6,000 RPM before shifting up -- to get the full acceleration out of it. Better geared than the Omega too which makes it easier to keep it on the boil.
I had a bit of a challenge off a roundabout coming onto a NSL dual carriageway against a Corrado. Didn't see the model but it must have been a VR6 cos I was struggling and that was damn near hitting the limiter with really quick shifts. Funny thing was though this road had a gentle S-bend where it went under a railway bridge and the guy obviously didn't have the bottle to maintain speed through the bends so I managed to pass him easily there :D I'm sure all his mates were impressed when he told them he pulled away from an Omega but I'm also sure he neglected to mention said Omega obliterated him through the bends!
Another interesting one was a Ferrari came zooming past on the M-way and I tried to keep up for fun, needless to say I didn't fare too well but I was reasonably impressed about the car's ability to accelerate well up the higher speeds as long as you keep it on the boil - shift up at 6500 RPM!
Incidentally... nice 540 :) I had a 540i Sport with the 6-speed manual box a few years ago, very nice car and yes it is a bit of a sleeper. Managed to creep past a 330i at full pelt in mine on a dual carriageway, there wasn't much in it but the 540 was definitely quicker. I don't think the guy was too happy, probably thought it was a kitted up 528i or something!
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This was my other 540i that I had at the same time.
(http://www.steve.dwest.dsl.pipex.com/kosf1.jpg)
Very smart,beemer engines look fantastic aswell dont they,my 325i looked awesome untill it broke.
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I think my best one's been a Supercharged Jag XKR that I kept up with on the M56, (I think!), driving back from Wrexham one time.
I regularly see the back of Nissan 200's and GTI's.
I'm quite surprised regularly by how spritely BMW diesels are though. Just as fast as the MV6.
I do love blasting past chavvy Corsas and the like tho'!!! ;D
And the best bit is that mine's an estate, so it's a great 'sleeper'!!!
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I was in my 24v Senator and a Lotus Carlton approach the lights I was stopped at. We both pulled gently away preparing for a rolling Grand Prix start at the next set of lights. I buried my foot in the carpet but H10 TUS was gone!! Just a dot in the distance! :-?
Lotus Carltons are a bit quick!! ;D
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I think my best one's been a Supercharged Jag XKR that I kept up with on the M56, (I think!), driving back from Wrexham one time.
I think that's another case of a driver not trying TBH, an XKR will absolutely destroy any Omega (bar maybe the Lotus Carlton engined one!). They're around 400 BHP I think, certainly not far off it! And to make it even worse, it's a grandaddy friendly beast with a sludge-o-matic so they don't even have to get the gear shifts right - just work out which pedal is stop and which one is go ;D It's actually pretty similar to the Aston DB7 Vantage, the Aston being more upmarket, more exclusive, comes with a 6-speed manual box and costs about £20k more! They're both Fords underneath ;)
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It's actually pretty similar to the Aston DB7 Vantage, the Aston being more upmarket, more exclusive, comes with a 6-speed manual box and costs about £20k more! They're both Fords underneath ;)
Different chassis - AM don't technology share with rest of PAG, neither do Volvo...
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Different chassis maybe, but i wouldn't go as far as to say they don't technology share. The Aston uses a special version of the Jag AJ-V8 engine (XKR uses the AJ34S), and there are likely quite a few other crossover points between them. Similarly the Focus ST engine is basically a Volvo unit.
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Different chassis maybe, but i wouldn't go as far as to say they don't technology share. The Aston uses a special version of the Jag AJ-V8 engine (XKR uses the AJ34S), and there are likely quite a few other crossover points between them. Similarly the Focus ST engine is basically a Volvo unit.
OK, I should say AM and Volvo do absolute minimal tech share within PAG, which is quite unusual...
But my point remains, the Jag and the AM are very different...
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I think my best one's been a Supercharged Jag XKR that I kept up with on the M56, (I think!), driving back from Wrexham one time.
I think that's another case of a driver not trying TBH, an XKR will absolutely destroy any Omega (bar maybe the Lotus Carlton engined one!). They're around 400 BHP I think, certainly not far off it! And to make it even worse, it's a grandaddy friendly beast with a sludge-o-matic so they don't even have to get the gear shifts right - just work out which pedal is stop and which one is go ;D It's actually pretty similar to the Aston DB7 Vantage, the Aston being more upmarket, more exclusive, comes with a 6-speed manual box and costs about £20k more! They're both Fords underneath ;)
I know, I was doubting he was trying too, but the rear bumper was on the ground when he was accelerating. I couldn't possibly have beat him, and he was pulling away from me, but only very very slowly!! I swear he wasn't messing about.
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Perhaps it was a badged up XK8 then? They do exist, although not that common I don't think. That's the only possible explanation I can see, the XKR is going on double the power of a 3.0/3.2 Omega and similar weight, there's no way they'd even be close in a proper boot-down test. The 0-60 is around 5 secs and 0-100 under 13 secs. I don't know the 0-100 for the Omega but it's got to be going on 17 or 18 secs and that equates to a huge gap at 100 MPH.
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OK, I'll take your word for it!!
Just burst my bubble why don't you?!?!?!? :-/
;D :y
(Edit to add) Hang on! I might've gotten my models mixed up. It was a four door model, you know the 'type' that's not the mondeo derivative. (X Type????) It definitely had an 'R' suffix and said supercharged somewhere. It was very new and that was about a year ago.
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The MV6 when running properly is quick and smooth and will keep up with most things.
However, the Carlsson was very funny. I would get all sorts trying it on, the 06 plate 330ci was the most comical though. Came up my back end down the A52 one night flashed me to move over, so I did, we drew level at :-Xmph ... then I put my foot down and he rapidly disappeared into the rear view.
Just for fun I let him catch up, looked across, smiled and did it again! ;D
That car really was quick and he was NOT happy!
Edit: This site in no way condones such childish behaviour on the public highway and the Admins really should be more grown up! ;)
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and the Admins really should be more grown up! ;)
In that case I resign now...
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The MV6 when running properly is quick and smooth and will keep up with most things.
They're not bad on the M-way, will keep up or pull away from most things if you drop a cog or two. Not so impressive off the line though, just too damn heavy for a 210 BHP car and the gearing means it's quite sluggish until the revs get towards 4,500 RPM (unless of course you beast the clutch lol).
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The MV6 when running properly is quick and smooth and will keep up with most things.
However, the Carlsson was very funny. I would get all sorts trying it on, the 06 plate 330ci was the most comical though. Came up my back end down the A52 one night flashed me to move over, so I did, we drew level at :-Xmph ... then I put my foot down and he rapidly disappeared into the rear view.
Just for fun I let him catch up, looked across, smiled and did it again! ;D
That car really was quick and he was NOT happy!
Edit: This site in no way condones such childish behaviour on the public highway and the Admins really should be more grown up! ;)
With the omega nobody would bother racing me on the road, they would leave ,me alone.
now i get every person with a fast hatchback trying to race me so far i had prellude typeR, Ford focus ST, VX220(i didn't bother raceing with), Golf GTI, Golf GTi D, Bmw z4.
It gives me great pleasure that i completely whooped all apart from the VX220 that i didn't race. Yet again i have spend 2 fuel tanks in 3 weeks and i have only done 550miles.
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people dont expect them to be fast...hah mistaken!
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am sick to death of having to crucify golf gti turbos and bimmer rep mobiles on the 30 mile trek to work... however on saturday nearly got owned by a st220 but he didnt have the testicles!!!!! :P ::) and i aint got my Mtek chip ......yet( supposidly in the post!!!)
Just to add, this wasnt ordered from us.
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Everybody thinks they have a giant killer until a nissan skyline appears. My freind has a 1998 R34 GTT 4 door saloon (not coupe) completely bog standard, mint condition. Looks like any other Nissan really but has stunning handling and performance, all for £4000. Theres nothing out there to touch a well driven one.
My beloved Omega could soon be ex-beloved if her-in-doors loosens the purse strings. ;)
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I cant challenge much in my 2.0 16v but i'm still waiting for my bro to get the same day off as me so I can race down the east lancs against his lexus hopefully without police presence, easier said than done!
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The office manager has bought an early Skyline. I have said if he ever goes to a run what you bring - I'll race him.
His is 2.0 turbo auto.
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The 2.0 turbo autos are nothing to write home about. Your omega would probably keep up with it, if you spanked it to within an inch of its life.
Its the 2.5 turbos that shift. :y
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The 2.0 turbo autos are nothing to write home about. Your omega would probably keep up with it, if you spanked it to within an inch of its life.
Its the 2.5 turbos that shift. :y
Nothing new there, until the Y32SE transplant I have planned for 30 months time.
Mine is as quick as a 3.0 auto up to 60
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on my bike my favourite trick is on a nice long straight road , pull up along side folks on the race rep painted 600/750's sat bolt upright with the missus on the back when there at full throttle leaning over there tank and sit there for a few miles then drop a few gears and leave them as a ever decreasing dot in my mirrors :)
im starting to feel old now but years ago my second car ever was a b reg 1.3l mk1 astra. in the end i wasnt sure what engine it had init,we think it came out of a gsi2000 with a twin choke webber bolted on.(the induction was louder than my exhaust) i went passed a very asstonished brand new golf gti vr6 thingie once,not sure how fast i was going the needle had gone all the way round to p in mph
but im much more sencible now honest oflicer
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even the 2.5's arent that good in standard form.
I was considering a Skyline, but tbh, i think i'll settle for a 3rd cossie :y
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I had'nt really considered a cossie, never driven one. How do the 2wd's handle? they look a bit twitchy at the back end. Ive never really seen one look happy with the tail out :'(.I would'nt want a 4wd of any kind. A well sorted 2wd for the road is my favorite.
I think the skyline chassis is better sorted, with active 4ws.
There was a time when all the boy racers had cossies and they were 2 a penny, a bit of a chav car but I guess now most of them have been written off and the tables have turned, with the skyline achieving chav status and the cossie more exclusive.
Enginewise they appear to be as tuneable as the skyline, but are the engines as strong?
I seem to remember someone saying turbolag was a problem with them too with one huge turbo.
Finding a bog standard one must be a nightmare and expensive if successfull.
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Mine is as quick as a 3.0 auto up to 60
Must have been a poor 3.0l auto you are comparing with...
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Mine is as quick as a 3.0 auto up to 60
Must have been a poor 3.0l auto you are comparing with...
Aren't they all? It's a poor unfortunate 3 litre engine that has to be lumbered with that gaybox ;D :P
Seriously though, I could believe a 2.6 manual will keep up with a 3.0 slushy off the line. The gearing on the slushy is way too high and combined with the power loss it's going to be close. At higher speeds there will probably be more of a difference though.
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Mine is as quick as a 3.0 auto up to 60
Must have been a poor 3.0l auto you are comparing with...
Aren't they all? It's a poor unfortunate 3 litre engine that has to be lumbered with that gaybox ;D :P
Seriously though, I could believe a 2.6 manual will keep up with a 3.0 slushy off the line. The gearing on the slushy is way too high and combined with the power loss it's going to be close. At higher speeds there will probably be more of a difference though.
My 2.6 is an auto, but the 2.6 is lower geared similar to 2.0 but revs higher, a 3.0 goes to over 50 a 2.6 to about 45. Up to 30 the 2.6 is quicker, then a the 3.0 starts to claw back.
On a test road 2.0 reaches 75 (P), 2.6 85 (G), 3.0 87 (kept conking so P)
On another test road 2.0 85 (P), 2.6 just over 100 (P), 3.0 105 (P) (Carlton 90, Sunbeam 100), so on acceleration a 2.6 auto is similar in performance to a 1978 1600 hatch!
At higher speeds the 3.0 is noticably quicker, but under 60 the 2.6 is livelier - so in 30 months time mine will NOT change its rear axle ratio!
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Mine is as quick as a 3.0 auto up to 60
Must have been a poor 3.0l auto you are comparing with...
Aren't they all? It's a poor unfortunate 3 litre engine that has to be lumbered with that gaybox ;D :P
Seriously though, I could believe a 2.6 manual will keep up with a 3.0 slushy off the line. The gearing on the slushy is way too high and combined with the power loss it's going to be close. At higher speeds there will probably be more of a difference though.
The gearing is too long, but at certain speeds it can mean faster, as at certain points the slushy will be lower geared at certain speeds. A manual will (usually) always be quicker though.
Also, remember, much less power loss with the newer firmware ;)
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Mine is as quick as a 3.0 auto up to 60
Must have been a poor 3.0l auto you are comparing with...
No it is all in the gearing, over 60 the 3.0 is quicker.
The 2.6 is not that less powerful than the 3.0 and mine was a hire car therefore is nice and loose.
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I had'nt really considered a cossie, never driven one. How do the 2wd's handle? they look a bit twitchy at the back end. Ive never really seen one look happy with the tail out :'(.I would'nt want a 4wd of any kind. A well sorted 2wd for the road is my favorite.
I think the skyline chassis is better sorted, with active 4ws.
There was a time when all the boy racers had cossies and they were 2 a penny, a bit of a chav car but I guess now most of them have been written off and the tables have turned, with the skyline achieving chav status and the cossie more exclusive.
Enginewise they appear to be as tuneable as the skyline, but are the engines as strong?
I seem to remember someone saying turbolag was a problem with them too with one huge turbo.
Finding a bog standard one must be a nightmare and expensive if successfull.
Back in the late 80s I had a Sierra Cosworth try to race me when I was on a Suzuki GSX600F, I remember looking behind and seeing it bounce all over the road, he could not keep up when I gave it full throttle
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I had'nt really considered a cossie, never driven one. How do the 2wd's handle? they look a bit twitchy at the back end. Ive never really seen one look happy with the tail out :'(.I would'nt want a 4wd of any kind. A well sorted 2wd for the road is my favorite.
I think the skyline chassis is better sorted, with active 4ws.
There was a time when all the boy racers had cossies and they were 2 a penny, a bit of a chav car but I guess now most of them have been written off and the tables have turned, with the skyline achieving chav status and the cossie more exclusive.
Enginewise they appear to be as tuneable as the skyline, but are the engines as strong?
I seem to remember someone saying turbolag was a problem with them too with one huge turbo.
Finding a bog standard one must be a nightmare and expensive if successfull.
Back in the late 80s I had a Sierra Cosworth try to race me when I was on a Suzuki GSX600F, I remember looking behind and seeing it bounce all over the road, he could not keep up when I gave it full throttle
Any reasonable bike (ie 4 cylinder 500cc or bigger) will beat any road car with ease.
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Mine is as quick as a 3.0 auto up to 60
Must have been a poor 3.0l auto you are comparing with...
No it is all in the gearing, over 60 the 3.0 is quicker.
The 2.6 is not that less powerful than the 3.0 and mine was a hire car therefore is nice and loose.
The 2.6 is around 180bhp, 3.0 is just shy of 210bhp. My simple maths make that 15% different...
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Mine is as quick as a 3.0 auto up to 60
Must have been a poor 3.0l auto you are comparing with...
No it is all in the gearing, over 60 the 3.0 is quicker.
The 2.6 is not that less powerful than the 3.0 and mine was a hire car therefore is nice and loose.
The 2.6 is around 180bhp, 3.0 is just shy of 210bhp. My simple maths make that 15% different...
15% is not that much, below 60 nothing in it over you notice. The 3.0 didn't get going untill 30mph
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Mine is as quick as a 3.0 auto up to 60
Must have been a poor 3.0l auto you are comparing with...
No it is all in the gearing, over 60 the 3.0 is quicker.
The 2.6 is not that less powerful than the 3.0 and mine was a hire car therefore is nice and loose.
The 2.6 is around 180bhp, 3.0 is just shy of 210bhp. My simple maths make that 15% different...
15% is not that much, below 60 nothing in it over you notice. The 3.0 didn't get going untill 30mph
We shall have to agree to disagree on that one then. Possibly all the 2.5/2.6 ones I've driven have been flat, or all the 3.0/3.2 ones I've driven have been good...
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I had'nt really considered a cossie, never driven one. How do the 2wd's handle? they look a bit twitchy at the back end. Ive never really seen one look happy with the tail out :'(.I would'nt want a 4wd of any kind. A well sorted 2wd for the road is my favorite.
I think the skyline chassis is better sorted, with active 4ws.
There was a time when all the boy racers had cossies and they were 2 a penny, a bit of a chav car but I guess now most of them have been written off and the tables have turned, with the skyline achieving chav status and the cossie more exclusive.
Enginewise they appear to be as tuneable as the skyline, but are the engines as strong?
I seem to remember someone saying turbolag was a problem with them too with one huge turbo.
Finding a bog standard one must be a nightmare and expensive if successfull.
I've had 2wd and 4wd.
2wd cann be twitchy, but mine at 310bhp was nice and drivable and would show a F355 a clean pair of heels.
Cossies are less chav now with them being old - no one wants them, which is good :D Engines can take ALOT of power if built correctly. ours is built to take 680+BHP.
Turbo threshold can be an issue on big turbos, but cam timing can help there. tbh, ours hits full boost not long after 4k and it revs to 8k.
Good ones do command strong money, but they're worth it. so much fun and 350bhp in one sees off a hell of alot.
Jamie, you'd be surprised - there are cossies out that would trounce alot of the bigger bikes now, but its all relative, as the power needed is huge lol.
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I had'nt really considered a cossie, never driven one. How do the 2wd's handle? they look a bit twitchy at the back end. Ive never really seen one look happy with the tail out :'(.I would'nt want a 4wd of any kind. A well sorted 2wd for the road is my favorite.
I think the skyline chassis is better sorted, with active 4ws.
There was a time when all the boy racers had cossies and they were 2 a penny, a bit of a chav car but I guess now most of them have been written off and the tables have turned, with the skyline achieving chav status and the cossie more exclusive.
Enginewise they appear to be as tuneable as the skyline, but are the engines as strong?
I seem to remember someone saying turbolag was a problem with them too with one huge turbo.
Finding a bog standard one must be a nightmare and expensive if successfull.
I've had 2wd and 4wd.
2wd cann be twitchy, but mine at 310bhp was nice and drivable and would show a F355 a clean pair of heels.
Cossies are less chav now with them being old - no one wants them, which is good :D Engines can take ALOT of power if built correctly. ours is built to take 680+BHP.
Turbo threshold can be an issue on big turbos, but cam timing can help there. tbh, ours hits full boost not long after 4k and it revs to 8k.
Good ones do command strong money, but they're worth it. so much fun and 350bhp in one sees off a hell of alot.
Jamie, you'd be surprised - there are cossies out that would trounce alot of the bigger bikes now, but its all relative, as the power needed is huge lol.
Gixxer thou is 1000 BHP/tonne straight from the crate (similar to most litre supersports). If that's not enough to see off your cossie there are turbo'd gixxer thous, R1s and Hayabusas etc out there :o
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Mine is as quick as a 3.0 auto up to 60
Must have been a poor 3.0l auto you are comparing with...
No it is all in the gearing, over 60 the 3.0 is quicker.
The 2.6 is not that less powerful than the 3.0 and mine was a hire car therefore is nice and loose.
The 2.6 is around 180bhp, 3.0 is just shy of 210bhp. My simple maths make that 15% different...
15% is not that much, below 60 nothing in it over you notice. The 3.0 didn't get going untill 30mph
We shall have to agree to disagree on that one then. Possibly all the 2.5/2.6 ones I've driven have been flat, or all the 3.0/3.2 ones I've driven have been good...
Definately little in it - it is when you go over 50 or so that you notice the extra power. At naughty speeds there is a quite large gap at non naughty speeds you wouldn't really notice
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Jamie, you'd be surprised - there are cossies out that would trounce alot of the bigger bikes now, but its all relative, as the power needed is huge lol.
I think even my 18yr old ZX10 should be 0 - 60 is around 3 (cannot test as 1st to 2nd at high revs won't work) and 0 to 100 in arounf 6. That would be one hell of a road car :o
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Jamie, you'd be surprised - there are cossies out that would trounce alot of the bigger bikes now, but its all relative, as the power needed is huge lol.
I think even my 18yr old ZX10 should be 0 - 60 is around 3 (cannot test as 1st to 2nd at high revs won't work) and 0 to 100 in arounf 6. That would be one hell of a road car :o
I know of a few that match that, and a few that would beat it, but as i said, its all relative, you need BIG power in a car to beat a bike off the mark, when rolling, stories can be different.
Paul,
If a turbo'd bike couldnt see off ANYTHING i'd be upset if i owned that bike.
I think you've taken what i said not in the way it was meant!
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Jamie, you'd be surprised - there are cossies out that would trounce alot of the bigger bikes now, but its all relative, as the power needed is huge lol.
I think even my 18yr old ZX10 should be 0 - 60 is around 3 (cannot test as 1st to 2nd at high revs won't work) and 0 to 100 in arounf 6. That would be one hell of a road car :o
I know of a few that match that, and a few that would beat it, but as i said, its all relative, you need BIG power in a car to beat a bike off the mark, when rolling, stories can be different.
Paul,
If a turbo'd bike couldnt see off ANYTHING i'd be upset if i owned that bike.
I think you've taken what i said not in the way it was meant!
Oh I agree, its possible to beat that, but as said, not many road cars will, nor will a 300bhp cossie ;)
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Jamie, you'd be surprised - there are cossies out that would trounce alot of the bigger bikes now, but its all relative, as the power needed is huge lol.
I think even my 18yr old ZX10 should be 0 - 60 is around 3 (cannot test as 1st to 2nd at high revs won't work) and 0 to 100 in arounf 6. That would be one hell of a road car :o
I know of a few that match that, and a few that would beat it, but as i said, its all relative, you need BIG power in a car to beat a bike off the mark, when rolling, stories can be different.
Paul,
If a turbo'd bike couldnt see off ANYTHING i'd be upset if i owned that bike.
I think you've taken what i said not in the way it was meant!
Oh I agree, its possible to beat that, but as said, not many road cars will, nor will a 300bhp cossie ;)
Who said anything about a 300bhp cossie? not even a two year old would suggest such a ridiculous thing ;)
im talking 550bhp+.
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Jamie, you'd be surprised - there are cossies out that would trounce alot of the bigger bikes now, but its all relative, as the power needed is huge lol.
I think even my 18yr old ZX10 should be 0 - 60 is around 3 (cannot test as 1st to 2nd at high revs won't work) and 0 to 100 in arounf 6. That would be one hell of a road car :o
I know of a few that match that, and a few that would beat it, but as i said, its all relative, you need BIG power in a car to beat a bike off the mark, when rolling, stories can be different.
Paul,
If a turbo'd bike couldnt see off ANYTHING i'd be upset if i owned that bike.
I think you've taken what i said not in the way it was meant!
Oh I agree, its possible to beat that, but as said, not many road cars will, nor will a 300bhp cossie ;)
Who said anything about a 300bhp cossie? not even a two year old would suggest such a ridiculous thing ;)
im talking 550bhp+.
LOL, that'll be more fun ;)
Still dunno if it would beat a bike though....
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Well if an 84bhp mid range bike can see off a Cossie without struggling, what about a superbike?
Anyway there are bigger engined bikes than Cossies - look up Triumph Rocket and V Twin Merlin
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Jamie, you'd be surprised - there are cossies out that would trounce alot of the bigger bikes now, but its all relative, as the power needed is huge lol.
I think even my 18yr old ZX10 should be 0 - 60 is around 3 (cannot test as 1st to 2nd at high revs won't work) and 0 to 100 in arounf 6. That would be one hell of a road car :o
I know of a few that match that, and a few that would beat it, but as i said, its all relative, you need BIG power in a car to beat a bike off the mark, when rolling, stories can be different.
Paul,
If a turbo'd bike couldnt see off ANYTHING i'd be upset if i owned that bike.
I think you've taken what i said not in the way it was meant!
Oh I agree, its possible to beat that, but as said, not many road cars will, nor will a 300bhp cossie ;)
Who said anything about a 300bhp cossie? not even a two year old would suggest such a ridiculous thing ;)
im talking 550bhp+.
LOL, that'll be more fun ;)
Still dunno if it would beat a bike though....
I'll let you know in the summer ;)