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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: JK on 05 August 2009, 20:19:19
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Hi everyone , just a word to let you know what happens when you work from 16 to 50 and have paid your national insurance for your full working life.
7 months ago i had an accident at work ,and ruptured the ligaments in my shoulder, i have been for a MRI scan and the specialist said the damage will have to be operated on and will fit me in for the operation asap.I have no problems with that but as i am a concreater ,i can't lift the shovel with one arm ,and so i have been on the sick .I have received the date of my operation [19/08/09]. this has been a long wait ,but it is not my fault that i have had to wait this long.Then the bombshell has been dropped.I have now had my sick pay stopped, as i have been on the sick for 7 months , even though i have my opp in 14 days time, i now have nothing to live on for myself ,zero,HOW CAN THIS BE,I HAVE PAID TAX ALL MY LIFE AND NATIONAL INSURANCE, i thought this is the reason you paid it ,for such unplanned emergencies .I can't claim any other benefits as i am still employed,when i contacted the job centre plus,they said that as i have worked all my life, and had no drug or alcohol problems ,i can't claim anything, but must look for a job for the 14 days that are leading up to my opp, even though i am still employed, so who wants to hire a 50 year old man with one good arm for two weeks, i have shown ghost driver the letter that i received and he could not believe it either, sorry to bitch on a bit but it is quite upsetting, and as far as i can see well wrong, i have appealed but it is not looking good to be honest, >:( >:( >:(---JK
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So are they saying if you has a drink or drug problem they would pay you?
I thought honestly pays, so they tell me. it stinks matey.
Hope the operation goes well and you are fit soon. my brother has had the same problem in both shoulders and had ops on each, and he is self employed. Wasnt too long before he was back at work.
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Tell me about it. I was self employed until late last year, same as you I have worked since I was 16 and payed my National Insurance. I went to sign on in Feb and was told because my wife earns over a certain amount I am entitled to nothing and she will have to keep me >:(
Good luck with the Op :y
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Bad news indeed JK which I'm very sorry to hear about, the following gives an outline and may help...
http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/e_sickness_at_work.pdf
http://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/cabdir.ihtml
Hope your procedure goes well :y :y
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I have not read it but you may find something of use in here.
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/MoneyTaxAndBenefits/BenefitsTaxCreditsAndOtherSupport/Illorinjured/DG_10018786
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rather outrageous mate,the welfare state was set up for people just like you.A safety net for honest hard working people who need a bit of help.It seems to me that they are about the only group of people who cant get any help. >:( >:( >:(
I had similar just over a year ago,also working with concrete,health issues used as an excuse to sack me and then replace me with someone else :-X :-X
I had similar problems from the welfare state,never needed it before but when I did they were a waste of time,it was so frustrating and soul destroying I gave up in the end.Luckily found another job otherwise I think we would have starved. >:( >:(
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Yes that is what they are saying, if i was an alcoholic then i could claim for alcohol,and if i was a druggy they could provide me with a drug substitute to try and ween me off them , but as i have worked all my life and have no problems with either i can claim nothing, what type of country is England turning into >:( >:(
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What gets my back up is, my wife deals with benefits for the local council, the other day she had a foreign family in who had just arrived in this country from Europe. The council had to hire a translator at £400 to tell them that the council would pay their rent and benefits because the parents didn't have work. If they didn't have any jobs to go to why did they come over here >:(
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thanks for the gov document but alas i have done and asked about everything that i can, that is in the very document you have sent me, all to no avail, lucky my wife works or it would have been a lot worse---JK
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What can i say to that,£400.00 for a translater, that would pay my sick pay for 5 weeks , you don't know how mad i am at reading this---JK, forgot to add ,i can't get help with the rent either >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
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What gets my back up is, my wife deals with benefits for the local council, the other day she had a foreign family in who had just arrived in this country from Europe. The council had to hire a translator at £400 to tell them that the council would pay their rent and benefits because the parents didn't have work. If they didn't have any jobs to go to why did they come over here >:(
not sure we are allowed to ralk about things like that any more Pete. ::) ;)
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And not being allowed to talk about it is probably why we have to pay £400.00 for a translator---JK
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What gets my back up is, my wife deals with benefits for the local council, the other day she had a foreign family in who had just arrived in this country from Europe. The council had to hire a translator at £400 to tell them that the council would pay their rent and benefits because the parents didn't have work. If they didn't have any jobs to go to why did they come over here >:(
I thought the rules had changed and prople had to at least be able to speak basic english.
Also to add. A mate of a mate who is a CAB boss was saying in thier area that foreign families were given priorty housing, extra transport exspences and a food aloowance over basic benifitsm and not only that the local supermarket put a special isle into serve them and took on a translater/operative to speak thier lingo so the the DSS would pay out the extra food exspences as a voucher payable to thier store.
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It just gets better---JK
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Dude, if it was an accident at work you should be getting your arse kissed by your company! They are liable and should be giving you compensation. Call one of those accident lawyers and they will sort you out. It wont help in the short term but could be looking at a nice sum coming your way!
If there was anyway to help you out in the next few weeks I would :-[
(I can't wait to leave to country I loved :'( :'( :'( :'()
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It just gets better---JK
Crazy init.
national Insurance.
You pay to benifit yourself for the future and/but it get used to fill the country up.
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Sorry to hear about your plight. it makes me mad when I hear about some of the scumbags that live near me who 'Play the system' and live off disability living allowance like that old breakdancing git that was on britains got talent >:(
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Its already in hand ,but as you said its the short term that is the worst, that is why the omega is on hold at the moment.But thanks for the concern --JK
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This may also help you JK.....
http://www.communitylegaladvice.org.uk/
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I DON'T THINK I HAVE ANY RIGHTS, AS I HAVE WORKED ALL MY LIFE lol lol lol,but thanks anyhow
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Hi everyone , just a word to let you know what happens when you work from 16 to 50 and have paid your national insurance for your full working life.
7 months ago i had an accident at work ,and ruptured the ligaments in my shoulder, i have been for a MRI scan and the specialist said the damage will have to be operated on and will fit me in for the operation asap.I have no problems with that but as i am a concreater ,i can't lift the shovel with one arm ,and so i have been on the sick .I have received the date of my operation [19/08/09]. this has been a long wait ,but it is not my fault that i have had to wait this long.Then the bombshell has been dropped.I have now had my sick pay stopped, as i have been on the sick for 7 months , even though i have my opp in 14 days time, i now have nothing to live on for myself ,zero,HOW CAN THIS BE,I HAVE PAID TAX ALL MY LIFE AND NATIONAL INSURANCE, i thought this is the reason you paid it ,for such unplanned emergencies .I can't claim any other benefits as i am still employed,when i contacted the job centre plus,they said that as i have worked all my life, and had no drug or alcohol problems ,i can't claim anything, but must look for a job for the 14 days that are leading up to my opp, even though i am still employed, so who wants to hire a 50 year old man with one good arm for two weeks, i have shown ghost driver the letter that i received and he could not believe it either, sorry to bitch on a bit but it is quite upsetting, and as far as i can see well wrong, i have appealed but it is not looking good to be honest, >:( >:( >:(---JK
Sorry to hear of your plight. However, assuming that it is your work sick pay that has stopped, you should have a letter from them saying this and armed with your sick note from your doctor you should be able to get 'incapacity benefit' it has a new name now :-/
You should get this even if you have a Job to return to. I have been in this situation myself in the last few years a couple of times. Go to the Job Centre, they can't expect you to live on nothing. Also try CAB and or local Council 'welfare rights' good luck.. :y
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There was an interesting letter in the paper today regarding English citizenship and how easy it is to obtain nowadays, and a suggestion that good behaviour and hard work be rewarded with extra votes... if such a system were to be put in place ::) ::) you can bet people like yourself in the position that you are now in would be treated a bit differently!
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I have claimed benefits, I also have no issues with peopl ewho claim them.
PROVIDED
a) They have paid in
b) They will be paying in and not be scroungers
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There was an interesting letter in the paper today regarding English citizenship and how easy it is to obtain nowadays, and a suggestion that good behaviour and hard work be rewarded with extra votes... if such a system were to be put in place ::) ::) you can bet people like yourself in the position that you are now in would be treated a bit differently!
call me pedantic but,there,s no such thing as English citizenship.Its British citizenship. :y ::)
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There was an interesting letter in the paper today regarding English citizenship and how easy it is to obtain nowadays, and a suggestion that good behaviour and hard work be rewarded with extra votes... if such a system were to be put in place ::) ::) you can bet people like yourself in the position that you are now in would be treated a bit differently!
call me pedantic but,there,s no such thing as English citizenship.Its British citizenship. :y ::)
Your pedantic..... :P
.. and so am I. 8-) :y
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;D ;D ;D not even going to go there ;D ;D ;D :y
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;D ;D ;D not even going to go there ;D ;D ;D :y
Fair play.... ;)
To the original poster, apologies for the partial thread highjack.
Also been in the same position as yourself at a similar age quite recently, (including the hoop jumping, note taking, prove you have been looking for work thing that the DSS requires) for the simple continuation of your Nat Ins contributions - even although they will not pay out a brass razoo to yourself in cash.... :-X
Chin up. Perseverence won out for me and got something workwise without any assistance from 'The State'. :y
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There was an interesting letter in the paper today regarding English citizenship and how easy it is to obtain nowadays, and a suggestion that good behaviour and hard work be rewarded with extra votes... if such a system were to be put in place ::) ::) you can bet people like yourself in the position that you are now in would be treated a bit differently!
call me pedantic but,there,s no such thing as English citizenship.Its British citizenship. :y ::)
Your pedantic..... :P
.. and so am I. 8-) :y
;D ;D :y
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;D ;D ;D not even going to go there ;D ;D ;D :y
go on zulu,you know you want to . :D ;D ;D
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;D ;D ;D not even going to go there ;D ;D ;D :y
go on zulu,you know you want to . :D ;D ;D
;D ;D ;D don't want to get into trouble with Daz's Dad ::) ::) ;D
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If he can cope with that boy of his I dont think you and I are going to cause him any loss of sleep. :D ;D ;D
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First let me answer some of the questions,it is not sick pay from my employer,that stopped a few weeks ago ,it is called employment and support allowance,and i am already employed ,to which ,if i look for a job , my current employer will terminate my employment ,as i will then be deemed fit for work ,hence looking for another job , its the worst case of catch 22 i have ever heard of , but all is not lost as i have an appointment today with the citizens advice centre, they think that they can get my sick pay reinstated ,as i am not the only one that this has happened to ,i don't know what scares me the most ,no sick pay or, it is a common occurrence, will up date when have some news --JK
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As usual, this government washes it's hands of it's own people while giving foreign immigrants (legal or otherwise) all the handouts going. >:( >:( >:(
As already said, you should look to your company for compensation as your accident was work related. If they won't do anything get a decent claims company on the case and your company will be sh1tting themselves.
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:y :y :y :-X :-X :-X :-X ::)
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Good luck there today JK. :y
As I had my accident I was on the sick for 3 months and now I'm still out of work getting jsa. my wife does not get a penny from anywhere. she was told today at the jobcentre if she got a job so14 hours a week that she would be able to keep £10 and the rest what she earned would be taken from my jsa.
so in other words she would be going to work for less than nothing and we would be worse off.
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As usual, this government washes it's hands of it's own people while giving foreign immigrants (legal or otherwise) all the handouts going. >:( >:( >:(
Hang on a sec ......
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The missus, a Yank, pays full NI and Income tax, has had to pay for a spouse visa twice because some twit in the UKBA decided not to stamp her first visa when she first entered the UK (£600 a pop) in the next 2 years we will have to fork out £1000 for indefinite leave to remain.
All the while she does not have any recourse to public funds, so pays full whack to a state that wont support her if she loses her job, wont give her family benefit if we have a kid, and has to pay full US health insurance to cover her while she is flying back and fourth to the States.
You call that fair?
Not all foreigners are on the benefit gravy train many work their balls off in jobs you and I would not like to do. I hate scroungers of all types less those in legitimate need of help whether they be Polish, Iraqi or British.
Lets not forget what job I do and how worthless this government makes myself and other colleagues and I wonder why I give up so much of my liberties for my spouse to treated like sh!t. >:(
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I need more coffee....... :(
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If you have run out of sick pay then you should be entitled to Incapacity benefit. Its not a great deal but something is better than nothing! :y
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If you have run out of sick pay then you should be entitled to Incapacity benefit. Its not a great deal but something is better than nothing! :y
Thats what I thought mate. But as JK said I have seen the letter that they sent him and as he is still employed by them is not entitled to any other benefits, the letter came from the job centre.
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As usual, this government washes it's hands of it's own people while giving foreign immigrants (legal or otherwise) all the handouts going. >:( >:( >:(
Hang on a sec ......
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The missus, a Yank, pays full NI and Income tax, has had to pay for a spouse visa twice because some twit in the UKBA decided not to stamp her first visa when she first entered the UK (£600 a pop) in the next 2 years we will have to fork out £1000 for indefinite leave to remain.
All the while she does not have any recourse to public funds, so pays full whack to a state that wont support her if she loses her job, wont give her family benefit if we have a kid, and has to pay full US health insurance to cover her while she is flying back and fourth to the States.
You call that fair?
Not all foreigners are on the benefit gravy train many work their balls off in jobs you and I would not like to do. I hate scroungers of all types less those in legitimate need of help whether they be Polish, Iraqi or British.
Lets not forget what job I do and how worthless this government makes myself and other colleagues and I wonder why I give up so much of my liberties for my spouse to treated like sh!t. >:(
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I need more coffee....... :(
Don't get me wrong, but I am in the same boat. Need to pay for everything (and will not get anything back from the goverment) and then pay over the odds to private landlord. Now, I am not complaning as I knew this was the case right from the start - it hurts when everyone is classified as Immigrant and assumed to benefit from the system
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As usual, this government washes it's hands of it's own people while giving foreign immigrants (legal or otherwise) all the handouts going. >:( >:( >:(
Hang on a sec ......
......the start - it hurts when everyone is classified as Immigrant and assumed to benefit from the system
absolutely, broad-brushing is dangerous :y
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To be fair there are a lot of people out there that do work and do pay into the national insurance , i have no quibbles with these people at all ,nothing ,absolutely no problem , i hope that i have made myself very clear on this , i however have paid my national insurance for over 30 years , that's 30 years , and i am entitled to nothing , that is what i am complaining about , as for the gentleman whose wife is working and is not entitled to anything i do feel sorry for her and as i said i have not got a problem with her , and i think if you pay in you should be entitled to full benefits,because if they are willing to take your money then they should be made by law to help you if your plight is a genuine case , hope that this cleared some of the fog away from the reason that i posted in the first place , it was not to pick on anyone who pays into the system, but those who have never worked and have a new car every 3 years and have paid nothing into the system, especially the £400.00 for an interpreter ,free rent,and full benefits,for someone who has never even set foot in this country let alone worked a single day,it boils my pi**---JK >:( >:( >:(
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Just had some disturbing news , if i put a claim in against my company, then out of the moneys that i win [if i do win] ,get this ,the government then take back all the sick pay they have given you while you were on the sick, in other words if you win your claim you loose all the money the government has paid you , they have then paid you nothing at all , what a system , its a joke,i need more than a coffee, just can't afford it lol
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As usual, this government washes it's hands of it's own people while giving foreign immigrants (legal or otherwise) all the handouts going. >:( >:( >:(
Hang on a sec ......
......the start - it hurts when everyone is classified as Immigrant and assumed to benefit from the system
absolutely, broad-brushing is dangerous :y
Sorry guys, didn't mean to broad-brush. :-[ I was trying to make a point that I see so many (mainly) Eastern Europeans being let in and given all sorts of benefits that our own people have to fight for and usually not get. As an example, when you read in the papers that hoards of Romanian gypsy's are queuing up to get into UK in order to get our benefits and free NHS etc. it just makes my blood boil.
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gypsys----gypsys--- right no more lucky heather or pegs for me,the way things are going i think it won't belong before the government bring back the window tax, as it was introduced in the late 1600s -1696 i think , about the same time as the poll tax, and they stung us with that one as well, it would be another way of generating money for nothing, or we could bail out norther rock again as they have only made a little loss of our moneys again,but whatever happens they must not help the common working man, i think im going to vomit , this post has shown me just how strong people feel about the situation the country is in and yet no one seems to be looking at the bigger picture they seem to be biting the hand that feeds them, strange but true---JK
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What can i say to that,£400.00 for a translater, that would pay my sick pay for 5 weeks , you don't know how mad i am at reading this---JK, forgot to add ,i can't get help with the rent either >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
It wont help but might give some light relief and restore your faith a little - in the recent Euro elections an English Democrat was elected in Doncaster ( IIRC ).I think he might be the new mayor or something, any way, part of his manifesto is to stop paying for translation services and printing council documents in 12 different languages. He has been immediately branded a racist of course. When you listen to his explanation it makes very good sense, " there are people in this town who have lived here for over 30 years and cannot or will not speak English, they are putting themselves at an enormous disadvantage in both the employment market and in everyday life. This council spends in excess of 1.6 million pounds a year on translation, money which could be better used elsewhere, in future if English is not a persons first language then they will have to bring someone along who can translate for them, perhaps a family member or friend".
This is not racism, its common sense, lets hope he gets his way.
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here here ,well done to that man ,if only there was more like him :y :y
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What can i say to that,£400.00 for a translater, that would pay my sick pay for 5 weeks , you don't know how mad i am at reading this---JK, forgot to add ,i can't get help with the rent either >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
It wont help but might give some light relief and restore your faith a little - in the recent Euro elections an English Democrat was elected in Doncaster ( IIRC ).I think he might be the new mayor or something, any way, part of his manifesto is to stop paying for translation services and printing council documents in 12 different languages. He has been immediately branded a racist of course. When you listen to his explanation it makes very good sense, " there are people in this town who have lived here for over 30 years and cannot or will not speak English, they are putting themselves at an enormous disadvantage in both the employment market and in everyday life. This council spends in excess of 1.6 million pounds a year on translation, money which could be better used elsewhere, in future if English is not a persons first language then they will have to bring someone along who can translate for them, perhaps a family member or friend".
This is not racism, its common sense, lets hope he gets his way.
Its already like that in other european countrys, I know from fist hand that it is like that in Germany.
If you move to live and work in another country then it is only fair that you make an effort to speak the lingo.
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JK the following is from the Directgov website http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/DisabledPeople/FinancialSupport/DG_10016082 You may have already seen it but I thought it worth posting just in case.
You may be able to claim Incapacity Benefit if you were under State Pension age when you became sick and any of the following apply to you:
* your Statutory Sick Pay has ended, or you cannot get it
From experience Incapacity Benefit (or Employment and Support Allowance as it is now known) is not dealt with by the Job Centre and you have to apply for it separately. My partner got it while she was still "employed" so there is no reason why you should not be able to get it.
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Went down to the cit advice yesterday and they have filled out an appeal form for me but they told me not to get my hopes up as 99% of people who have had a medical are told what i was told and it usually takes two to three appeals to have your allowances back , they apparently do this so people will just forget about it and look for work ,however with my opp very near he said they might have overlooked this , also with me still employed that should go for me as well ,but thanks for your input,and i do appreciate all the comments and reactions that have been show in the response to my posts, it gives me a bit light at the end of the tunnel ,but i have to wait and see what the reply is from the appeal ,many thanks ---JK :y
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7 months ago i had an accident at work ....
As someone else pointed out, this is the key. Have you spoken to a solicitor? Are you in a Union? Your employer owes you if they were negligent.
Good luck.
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Hi everyone , just a word to let you know what happens when you work from 16 to 50 and have paid your national insurance for your full working life.
7 months ago i had an accident at work ,and ruptured the ligaments in my shoulder, i have been for a MRI scan and the specialist said the damage will have to be operated on and will fit me in for the operation asap.I have no problems with that but as i am a concreater ,i can't lift the shovel with one arm ,and so i have been on the sick .I have received the date of my operation [19/08/09]. this has been a long wait ,but it is not my fault that i have had to wait this long.Then the bombshell has been dropped.I have now had my sick pay stopped, as i have been on the sick for 7 months , even though i have my opp in 14 days time, i now have nothing to live on for myself ,zero,HOW CAN THIS BE,I HAVE PAID TAX ALL MY LIFE AND NATIONAL INSURANCE, i thought this is the reason you paid it ,for such unplanned emergencies .I can't claim any other benefits as i am still employed,when i contacted the job centre plus,they said that as i have worked all my life, and had no drug or alcohol problems ,i can't claim anything, but must look for a job for the 14 days that are leading up to my opp, even though i am still employed, so who wants to hire a 50 year old man with one good arm for two weeks, i have shown ghost driver the letter that i received and he could not believe it either, sorry to bitch on a bit but it is quite upsetting, and as far as i can see well wrong, i have appealed but it is not looking good to be honest, >:( >:( >:(---JK
Just highlights the crappy country we live in.
Don't get me wrong, it's not the physical place, but the way it's run.
Hope you get sorted soon, matey. ;)
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" there are people in this town who have lived here for over 30 years and cannot or will not speak English, they are putting themselves at an enormous disadvantage in both the employment market and in everyday life. This council spends in excess of 1.6 million pounds a year on translation, money which could be better used elsewhere, in future if English is not a persons first language then they will have to bring someone along who can translate for them, perhaps a family member or friend".
This is not racism, its common sense, lets hope he gets his way.
Magnificent -I'd vote for that guy!
After all, in Engalnd, we speak English.
If I go to a foreign country, I'd expect eveything to be printed in their language..............
........gotta say that I only ever go to the USA to be honest! ;D
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At least we have 1 member of the judiciary who understands the problem.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1204847/RICHARD-LITTLEJOHN-A-judge-telling-truth-immigration-Take-cells.html
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JK the following is from the Directgov website http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/DisabledPeople/FinancialSupport/DG_10016082 You may have already seen it but I thought it worth posting just in case.
You may be able to claim Incapacity Benefit if you were under State Pension age when you became sick and any of the following apply to you:
* your Statutory Sick Pay has ended, or you cannot get it
From experience Incapacity Benefit (or Employment and Support Allowance as it is now known) is not dealt with by the Job Centre and you have to apply for it separately. My partner got it while she was still "employed" so there is no reason why you should not be able to get it.
Agreed, I have been in this situation. Last time was only 2 years ago. I objected to goingto the Job Centre as had a Job, pleased I did though because got a Grant to help me back to work, even though I had a job to go back to.
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Have received a letter today stating that they are reviewing my case and will notify me as soon as they reach a decision,will let you know what happens as soon as i do ,many thanks to everyone ==JK
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I agree, it is shocking the way hard working people are treated in this country.
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" there are people in this town who have lived here for over 30 years and cannot or will not speak English, they are putting themselves at an enormous disadvantage in both the employment market and in everyday life. This council spends in excess of 1.6 million pounds a year on translation, money which could be better used elsewhere, in future if English is not a persons first language then they will have to bring someone along who can translate for them, perhaps a family member or friend".
This is not racism, its common sense, lets hope he gets his way.
Magnificent -I'd vote for that guy!
After all, in Engalnd, we speak English.
If I go to a foreign country, I'd expect eveything to be printed in their language..............
........gotta say that I only ever go to the USA to be honest! ;D
Are you sure? It could be Engalndish.
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Like it, LOL :y ;D ;D
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And not being allowed to talk about it is probably why we have to pay £400.00 for a translator---JK
That says it all JK. Soon have your op done. Best of luck.
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Tell me about it. I was self employed until late last year, same as you I have worked since I was 16 and payed my National Insurance. I went to sign on in Feb and was told because my wife earns over a certain amount I am entitled to nothing and she will have to keep me >:(
Good luck with the Op :y
I know exactly how you feel 60 years old can't claim bugger all as the wife is working can't even get pension credits. I'm retraining and that's a laugh what chance of a job at my age. :( :( :( :( :( :( :-/ :-/ :-/ :'( :'(
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I have thought long and hard to think of something to say to the last persons post , but all i can come up with to say how sorry i am for you , i am 50 and as you will know yourself, 10 years pass so quickly the older you get, its a fact of life, just for a dafty, what do they say you have to train for. :( :(
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Sorry to raise this older post again but for those people who are interested i have had my opp and just before i got my stitches out i have received the results of my appeal, they have decided that they were right and i have to go back to con creating,they have declared me fit for work and have stopped my sick pay,even though i still have the stitches in my arm, like i say I'm not bitching ,just letting the people know the results of my appeal,as there was quite a few people responded to this post ,i would just like to say thanks for all the support that i have received from this site ,it shows me that there is some decent people out there
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Thanks for the update JK, hope the procedure went well and you're back to full mobility. :y :y
I would tend to seek advice about the result of your appeal as it sounds that the physical effort involved in you employment may undo any work that has been done in the surgical repair.
Have you sought any more advice on a compensation claim for your injury at work?
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yes there is a solicitor on the case as we speak,opp went well should be fit for work in a few weeks ,thanks --Karl