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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: cem_devecioglu on 13 October 2009, 20:12:58
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finally today I had the chance to use windows 7 on my test machine..
tested sql 2005 and visual studio 6 software on it..
although win 7 tells that it does not like them and will have problems :-? , worked very well together.. :)
no problems with old ado connections..
only important point was to execute the programs with admin privileges.. no problems with dlls also..
and I also like its new event viewer.. very detailed..
performance was much better.. and many extra's.. :y
and I must add also, it was not necessary to supply a driver for scsi card or any other thing for install..
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I too found performance much improved
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I too found performance much improved
yep..same codes working much better then xp..
and there was an other option on exe's, windows xp compatibility mode.. and I dont use it.. :-?
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and I must add also, it was not necessary to supply a driver for scsi card or any other thing for install..
Just because the OS provides a default driver, it doesn't automatically follow that it is the best one for the job.
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Have experienced a few issues with wireless drivers, but otherwise is excellent. Runs well on old hardware
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Have experienced a few issues with wireless drivers, but otherwise is excellent. Runs well on old hardware
definitely..
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I can't get Visual Studio 6 to work properly under it, even in XP compatibility mode. It seems to corrupt filenames of source files :'(
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I think I'll stick with my Windows XP now i've managed to get it installed on my new laptop... :)
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I can't get Visual Studio 6 to work properly under it, even in XP compatibility mode. It seems to corrupt filenames of source files :'(
Hmm. will have to bear that in mind. Not that I've got any projects that still use it, of course. ::)
.. and not that we've migrated beyond Win 2K yet. :-X
Kevin
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I can't get Visual Studio 6 to work properly under it, even in XP compatibility mode. It seems to corrupt filenames of source files :'(
why ?
are you using the original installation CD ?
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I can't get Visual Studio 6 to work properly under it, even in XP compatibility mode. It seems to corrupt filenames of source files :'(
I also had problems opening the project first .. but I found the reason to be IDE exe has to be given admin rights..
looking from the net I see they dont support some ocx components.. but those are rarely used I think..
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and I must add also, it was not necessary to supply a driver for scsi card or any other thing for install..
Just because the OS provides a default driver, it doesn't automatically follow that it is the best one for the job.
you may be right KillerWatt..But havent seen any component working slower , may be later I will catch..
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I can't get Visual Studio 6 to work properly under it, even in XP compatibility mode. It seems to corrupt filenames of source files :'(
Hmm. will have to bear that in mind. Not that I've got any projects that still use it, of course. ::)
.. and not that we've migrated beyond Win 2K yet. :-X
Kevin
Only got 2 reasonably sized projects still using VB6 - both do some 'naughty' things unsupported in VS.Net
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I can't get Visual Studio 6 to work properly under it, even in XP compatibility mode. It seems to corrupt filenames of source files :'(
I also had problems opening the project first .. but I found the reason to be IDE exe has to be given admin rights..
looking from the net I see they dont support some ocx components.. but those are rarely used I think..
Yeah, needs a few tweaks to get it to go, but can't get around this corruption of source filenames,
Tend to run XP in a VM now when I need to modify old code
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and I must add also, it was not necessary to supply a driver for scsi card or any other thing for install..
Just because the OS provides a default driver, it doesn't automatically follow that it is the best one for the job.
you may be right KillerWatt..But havent seen any component working slower , may be later I will catch..
My old SB Live didn't work any slower when it first encountered the XP driver, the only problem was that half the features didn't work properly until the SB driver was installed.
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I can't get Visual Studio 6 to work properly under it, even in XP compatibility mode. It seems to corrupt filenames of source files :'(
I also had problems opening the project first .. but I found the reason to be IDE exe has to be given admin rights..
looking from the net I see they dont support some ocx components.. but those are rarely used I think..
Yeah, needs a few tweaks to get it to go, but can't get around this corruption of source filenames,
Tend to run XP in a VM now when I need to modify old code
I hope at least your final exe will work .. microsoft teams promise for that..
tomorrow I will try direct port output codes like barcode writers..
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and I must add also, it was not necessary to supply a driver for scsi card or any other thing for install..
Just because the OS provides a default driver, it doesn't automatically follow that it is the best one for the job.
you may be right KillerWatt..But havent seen any component working slower , may be later I will catch..
My old SB Live didn't work any slower when it first encountered the XP driver, the only problem was that half the features didn't work properly until the SB driver was installed.
And in true creative style, features knobbled with subsequent driver 'enhancements' ;D
Yes, I agree though, put on the correct drivers. Most devices don't have Win7 drivers, though normally Vista ones work. The MS ones aren't bad as a starting point, as they are the HCL approved ones submitted about 18 months ago in most cases. Tends to be vga drivers that are updated very regularly
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I can't get Visual Studio 6 to work properly under it, even in XP compatibility mode. It seems to corrupt filenames of source files :'(
I also had problems opening the project first .. but I found the reason to be IDE exe has to be given admin rights..
looking from the net I see they dont support some ocx components.. but those are rarely used I think..
Yeah, needs a few tweaks to get it to go, but can't get around this corruption of source filenames,
Tend to run XP in a VM now when I need to modify old code
I hope at least your final exe will work .. microsoft teams promise for that..
tomorrow I will try direct port output codes like barcode writers..
The say the compiled app will probably work (depending on ocx and environment), not that you can compile the app.
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And in true creative style, features knobbled with subsequent driver 'enhancements' ;D
I don't try to fix things that ain't broke ;)
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I can't get Visual Studio 6 to work properly under it, even in XP compatibility mode. It seems to corrupt filenames of source files :'(
I also had problems opening the project first .. but I found the reason to be IDE exe has to be given admin rights..
looking from the net I see they dont support some ocx components.. but those are rarely used I think..
Yeah, needs a few tweaks to get it to go, but can't get around this corruption of source filenames,
Tend to run XP in a VM now when I need to modify old code
I hope at least your final exe will work .. microsoft teams promise for that..
tomorrow I will try direct port output codes like barcode writers..
The say the compiled app will probably work (depending on ocx and environment), not that you can compile the app.
Today, I could compile and I'm very happy for that..
And I think you can also.. but you need some free time..
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I can't get Visual Studio 6 to work properly under it, even in XP compatibility mode. It seems to corrupt filenames of source files :'(
I also had problems opening the project first .. but I found the reason to be IDE exe has to be given admin rights..
looking from the net I see they dont support some ocx components.. but those are rarely used I think..
Yeah, needs a few tweaks to get it to go, but can't get around this corruption of source filenames,
Tend to run XP in a VM now when I need to modify old code
I hope at least your final exe will work .. microsoft teams promise for that..
tomorrow I will try direct port output codes like barcode writers..
The say the compiled app will probably work (depending on ocx and environment), not that you can compile the app.
Today, I could compile and I'm very happy for that..
And I think you can also.. but you need some free time..
I can compile, my problem is if I save the source after I've modified it, it corrupts filenames.
Maybe I could find a solution, but time is something I don't have :'(
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I can't get Visual Studio 6 to work properly under it, even in XP compatibility mode. It seems to corrupt filenames of source files :'(
I also had problems opening the project first .. but I found the reason to be IDE exe has to be given admin rights..
looking from the net I see they dont support some ocx components.. but those are rarely used I think..
Yeah, needs a few tweaks to get it to go, but can't get around this corruption of source filenames,
Tend to run XP in a VM now when I need to modify old code
I hope at least your final exe will work .. microsoft teams promise for that..
tomorrow I will try direct port output codes like barcode writers..
The say the compiled app will probably work (depending on ocx and environment), not that you can compile the app.
Today, I could compile and I'm very happy for that..
And I think you can also.. but you need some free time..
I can compile, my problem is if I save the source after I've modified it, it corrupts filenames.
Maybe I could find a solution, but time is something I don't have :'(
is win7 working under vm ?
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I can't get Visual Studio 6 to work properly under it, even in XP compatibility mode. It seems to corrupt filenames of source files :'(
I also had problems opening the project first .. but I found the reason to be IDE exe has to be given admin rights..
looking from the net I see they dont support some ocx components.. but those are rarely used I think..
Yeah, needs a few tweaks to get it to go, but can't get around this corruption of source filenames,
Tend to run XP in a VM now when I need to modify old code
I hope at least your final exe will work .. microsoft teams promise for that..
tomorrow I will try direct port output codes like barcode writers..
The say the compiled app will probably work (depending on ocx and environment), not that you can compile the app.
Today, I could compile and I'm very happy for that..
And I think you can also.. but you need some free time..
I can compile, my problem is if I save the source after I've modified it, it corrupts filenames.
Maybe I could find a solution, but time is something I don't have :'(
is win7 working under vm ?
This is directly on my desktop, but I can replicate on one of my VMs as well.
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I can't get Visual Studio 6 to work properly under it, even in XP compatibility mode. It seems to corrupt filenames of source files :'(
I also had problems opening the project first .. but I found the reason to be IDE exe has to be given admin rights..
looking from the net I see they dont support some ocx components.. but those are rarely used I think..
Yeah, needs a few tweaks to get it to go, but can't get around this corruption of source filenames,
Tend to run XP in a VM now when I need to modify old code
I hope at least your final exe will work .. microsoft teams promise for that..
tomorrow I will try direct port output codes like barcode writers..
The say the compiled app will probably work (depending on ocx and environment), not that you can compile the app.
Today, I could compile and I'm very happy for that..
And I think you can also.. but you need some free time..
I can compile, my problem is if I save the source after I've modified it, it corrupts filenames.
Maybe I could find a solution, but time is something I don't have :'(
is win7 working under vm ?
This is directly on my desktop, but I can replicate on one of my VMs as well.
hmmm.. my solutions finished.. ;D
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Hmmm -- all greek to me -- but it's taken me yonks to sort out bl**dy Vista .... not sure yet if I can bring myself to put the 7 upgrade in the drive .... knowing my luck everything will go t*ts up !
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and I must add also, it was not necessary to supply a driver for scsi card or any other thing for install..
Just because the OS provides a default driver, it doesn't automatically follow that it is the best one for the job.
you may be right KillerWatt..But havent seen any component working slower , may be later I will catch..
My old SB Live didn't work any slower when it first encountered the XP driver, the only problem was that half the features didn't work properly until the SB driver was installed.
And in true creative style, features knobbled with subsequent driver 'enhancements' ;D
Yes, I agree though, put on the correct drivers. Most devices don't have Win7 drivers, though normally Vista ones work. The MS ones aren't bad as a starting point, as they are the HCL approved ones submitted about 18 months ago in most cases. Tends to be vga drivers that are updated very regularly
I was led to believe this is because Win 7 is actually win 6.x, a completely re-worked Vista :-/ :-/ Basically because of the problems they had with the release of Vista, they didn't want to go through it again
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Hmmm -- all greek to me -- but it's taken me yonks to sort out bl**dy Vista .... not sure yet if I can bring myself to put the 7 upgrade in the drive .... knowing my luck everything will go t*ts up !
dont be pessimistic.. even the earlier version dont ask for any driver and dont make any problem..simply install from cd and start work.. And I'm not talking about an ordinary pc.. it was a workstation from HP with Adaptec SCSI and a 15K RPM SCSI hard drive and a specific mobo.. I remember how much effort I spend when installing XP on it.. :y
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Hmmm -- all greek to me -- but it's taken me yonks to sort out bl**dy Vista .... not sure yet if I can bring myself to put the 7 upgrade in the drive .... knowing my luck everything will go t*ts up !
NEVER upgrade
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and I must add also, it was not necessary to supply a driver for scsi card or any other thing for install..
Just because the OS provides a default driver, it doesn't automatically follow that it is the best one for the job.
you may be right KillerWatt..But havent seen any component working slower , may be later I will catch..
My old SB Live didn't work any slower when it first encountered the XP driver, the only problem was that half the features didn't work properly until the SB driver was installed.
And in true creative style, features knobbled with subsequent driver 'enhancements' ;D
Yes, I agree though, put on the correct drivers. Most devices don't have Win7 drivers, though normally Vista ones work. The MS ones aren't bad as a starting point, as they are the HCL approved ones submitted about 18 months ago in most cases. Tends to be vga drivers that are updated very regularly
I was led to believe this is because Win 7 is actually win 6.x, a completely re-worked Vista :-/ :-/ Basically because of the problems they had with the release of Vista, they didn't want to go through it again
Win7 is, confusingly, Windows 6.1. So, yes, a (significantly) improved/tweaked Vista.
XP (Windows 5.1) was really a tweaked (and bodged in places) Windows 2000 (Windows 5.0), and was flawed in a number of ways, and suffered due to poor quality drivers.
Microsoft had to go through the pain of some significant changes with Vista, and at the same time implemented more thoroughly that previously a signed driver policy (driver has to be certified) in an effort to improve the crap splatted out by cheap chinese hardware manufacturers.
If software obeyed the long stated Windows programming rules, for the most part they worked fine under Vista (some architectural changes needed in drivers though). That software that didn't obey the rules often didn't run so well. Vista was in Beta for long enough for developers to fix issues, but many didn't bother. And the inevitable happened, and everyone said it was all Microsoft's fault.
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I dont pretend to understand all this stuff but, for the vast majority of home users like myself, who dont do anything more than forums and online banking and stuff, any old OS will do really ;D
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I dont pretend to understand all this stuff but, for the vast majority of home users like myself, who dont do anything more than forums and online banking and stuff, any old OS will do really ;D
yep..upto a point..
in time problems will arouse first in explorer.. as the web programmers like to try every new add on which works only with new versions.. :(
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I dont pretend to understand all this stuff but, for the vast majority of home users like myself, who dont do anything more than forums and online banking and stuff, any old OS will do really ;D
XP isn't the words most robust/secure OS. Its also about to end up only partially supported, so you probably will have to catch up at some point in next couple of years. That said, you'll probably need new PC then, which will come with the newer Windows anyway :y
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I dont pretend to understand all this stuff but, for the vast majority of home users like myself, who dont do anything more than forums and online banking and stuff, any old OS will do really ;D
yep..upto a point..
in time problems will arouse first in explorer.. as the web programmers like to try every new add on which works only with new versions.. :(
ie8 is available for XP
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I dont pretend to understand all this stuff but, for the vast majority of home users like myself, who dont do anything more than forums and online banking and stuff, any old OS will do really ;D
yep..upto a point..
in time problems will arouse first in explorer.. as the web programmers like to try every new add on which works only with new versions.. :(
ie8 is available for XP
yep.. I'm using it on xp.. but my estimate is Microsoft in the future will change explorer and its engine in a radical way ( and I think its necessary looking from the coding techniques we use) so as to eliminate other browsers and the ancient standards..
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and imho proof to that is XAML (although may look irrelevant at first sight) ..they are preparing for the shift.