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Title: Boat tail improves HGV fuel consumption
Post by: Nickbat on 06 November 2009, 14:24:17
I thought this may of interest to our truckers:

http://www.tudelft.nl/live/pagina.jsp?id=bdec8a2d-d269-40d5-ba27-194253d7941a&lang=en
Title: Re: Boat tail improves HGV fuel consumption
Post by: Nickbat on 06 November 2009, 14:30:10
Of course we already have the new tear-drop design on M&S lorries.

http://www.donbur.co.uk/gb/products/aerodynamic_teardrop_trailer.shtml

I think these innovations are great.  :y

For how many years have box trailers been just that: a box?

Title: Re: Boat tail improves HGV fuel consumption
Post by: cruisetopoland on 06 November 2009, 14:30:17
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I thought this may of interest to our truckers:

http://www.tudelft.nl/live/pagina.jsp?id=bdec8a2d-d269-40d5-ba27-194253d7941a&lang=en

They'd really struggle to get that round our town centre with the extra length on overhang, so I guess they would incorporate it in the original length??

Easy to make a trailer more aerodynamic-been a long time coming!
Title: Re: Boat tail improves HGV fuel consumption
Post by: Chris_H on 06 November 2009, 14:32:16
The overhang looks more than 2 metres to me.  I can see people driving into the back of them.
Title: Re: Boat tail improves HGV fuel consumption
Post by: waspy on 06 November 2009, 14:39:03
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Of course we already have the new tear-drop deign on M&S lorries.

http://www.donbur.co.uk/gb/products/aerodynamic_teardrop_trailer.shtml

I think these innovations are great.  :y

For how many years have box trailers been just that: a box?

 

That Tear Drop's a good design for another reason.

How many times have you followed a truck that's been parked up over night in winter & the ice that's formed on top flies off at you. Bloody dangerous :(
Title: Re: Boat tail improves HGV fuel consumption
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 06 November 2009, 14:45:44
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Of course we already have the new tear-drop deign on M&S lorries.

http://www.donbur.co.uk/gb/products/aerodynamic_teardrop_trailer.shtml

I think these innovations are great.  :y

For how many years have box trailers been just that: a box?

 
.................excellent..........and of course.......better efficiency.......means less fuel........so less Co2......which will help in the battle.......... against Gloabal warming..........You'll agree....... ::) ::) ::) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Boat tail improves HGV fuel consumption
Post by: Gaffers on 06 November 2009, 15:07:50
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Of course we already have the new tear-drop deign on M&S lorries.

http://www.donbur.co.uk/gb/products/aerodynamic_teardrop_trailer.shtml

I think these innovations are great.  :y

For how many years have box trailers been just that: a box?

 
.................excellent..........and of course.......better efficiency.......means less fuel........so less Co2......which will help in the battle.......... against Gloabal warming..........You'll agree....... ::) ::) ::) ;) ;)


Careful, that be fighting talk to our resident Nickbat ::) ::)
Title: Re: Boat tail improves HGV fuel consumption
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 06 November 2009, 15:14:11
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Of course we already have the new tear-drop deign on M&S lorries.

http://www.donbur.co.uk/gb/products/aerodynamic_teardrop_trailer.shtml

I think these innovations are great.  :y

For how many years have box trailers been just that: a box?

 
.................excellent..........and of course.......better efficiency.......means less fuel........so less Co2......which will help in the battle.......... against Gloabal warming..........You'll agree....... ::) ::) ::) ;) ;)

I would agree in principle Opti, however I would rather battle against the waste of global resources than global warming or whatever.
Title: Re: Boat tail improves HGV fuel consumption
Post by: webby23 on 06 November 2009, 17:02:53
Great idea but at the minute that example is totally impractical.....speaking as a Class 2 driver......

And as for global warming.....dont make me laugh......if it REALLY is such a problem why are people who should know better (politicians, members of state, etc etc) still swanning around in Jaguars, Range Rovers and Rolls Royces.....

When they change their habits, maybe the public will......!!!!

 >:( >:( >:(
 :y :y :y :y :y :y
Title: Re: Boat tail improves HGV fuel consumption
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 06 November 2009, 17:08:22
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I thought this may of interest to our truckers:

http://www.tudelft.nl/live/pagina.jsp?id=bdec8a2d-d269-40d5-ba27-194253d7941a&lang=en

logical.. principle of fluid dynamics..when they are traveling fast with that big size they create a vacuum behind them pulling them backwards..
Title: Re: Boat tail improves HGV fuel consumption
Post by: tunnie on 06 November 2009, 17:51:24
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Great idea but at the minute that example is totally impractical.....speaking as a Class 2 driver......

And as for global warming.....dont make me laugh......if it REALLY is such a problem why are people who should know better (politicians, members of state, etc etc) still swanning around in Jaguars, Range Rovers and Rolls Royces.....

When they change their habits, maybe the public will......!!!!

 >:( >:( >:(
 :y :y :y :y :y :y

Because there is no global warming. Cows produce more emissions than all cars on the planet, but everyone still wants a burger!
Title: Re: Boat tail improves HGV fuel consumption
Post by: mantahatch on 06 November 2009, 20:07:54
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I thought this may of interest to our truckers:

http://www.tudelft.nl/live/pagina.jsp?id=bdec8a2d-d269-40d5-ba27-194253d7941a&lang=en

logical.. principle of fluid dynamics..when they are traveling fast with that big size they create a vacuum behind them pulling them backwards..


The best tests we did in the wind tunnel utilised just the side extensions and they did reduce drag. Not sure there idea would actually create a vacuum though.
Title: Re: Boat tail improves HGV fuel consumption
Post by: hotel21 on 06 November 2009, 20:18:32
Something burbling about in the dark recesses of my mind that the max overall length for an artic is 15.5 metres, with something else about being increased to 16.6 metres if there is 2 meters of the trailer ahead of the kingpin and 12 metres to the rear??     :-[

bet its overlength.....

edit to add - max trailer length, excluding tractive unit, is/was 12.2 metres, added into the above.  That was why the bullnose Scanias couldn't haul a full length 3 axle trailer on UK roads.  legally..... :-X 
Title: Re: Boat tail improves HGV fuel consumption
Post by: feeutfo on 07 November 2009, 13:27:41
i want to see them open the doors and load/unload it!
Title: Re: Boat tail improves HGV fuel consumption
Post by: Brick Tamland on 07 November 2009, 14:22:32
Oh dear, THATS not a boat tail THIS is a boat tail :y

(http://www.madness-us-cars.com/vehicules-anciens/belles-americaines/buick-riviera-72.jpg)
Title: Re: Boat tail improves HGV fuel consumption
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 07 November 2009, 15:17:39
........as is this  8-) 8-)


(http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv345/Catdracula/3808192016_dea8351473_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Boat tail improves HGV fuel consumption
Post by: Pitchfork on 07 November 2009, 15:23:19
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Great idea but at the minute that example is totally impractical.....speaking as a Class 2 driver......

And as for global warming.....dont make me laugh......if it REALLY is such a problem why are people who should know better (politicians, members of state, etc etc) still swanning around in Jaguars, Range Rovers and Rolls Royces.....

When they change their habits, maybe the public will......!!!!

 >:( >:( >:(
 :y :y :y :y :y :y

Because there is no global warming. Cows produce more emissions than all cars on the planet, but everyone still wants a burger!
I don't!!