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Title: Dog attack
Post by: mantahatch on 19 November 2009, 14:07:54
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Title: Re: Dog attack
Post by: cruisetopoland on 19 November 2009, 14:14:27
Horrendous.  Many people are now using dogs as weapons-even though this may not have been the case in this instance, it does show what can happen.

What if it was a baby, not another dog?
Title: Re: Dog attack
Post by: Debs. on 19 November 2009, 14:54:03
Appalling!........ >:(

.........I`m speechless!!!!! :-X
Title: Re: Dog attack
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 19 November 2009, 17:22:47
ok.. I love animals..

but those who attack human and other small animals , that are specially trained as assault dogs
those must be definitely destructed including the  owner.. how you have the courage of going through streets with a violent dog like that you cant control >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

some time ago a children died here..maniacs.. >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Dog attack
Post by: waspy on 19 November 2009, 18:38:02
Firstly, the dog should've been attached to owner at all times whilst he's on the streets (we all make mistakes).
Secondly, the owner had no idea how to get his dog off the other dog. Once they lock on, they take some getting off.
I would not hesitate in using what ever i needed to use if my Hanna took hold of another dog. Though i always have her the lead when another dog's around or there's a chance of one, i find it's the other dogs that are the problem & if she bit one then that's the other owner's fault (she's defending herself).
I hope that dog in the footage was put down, it's done it once, it'll do it again.
Title: Re: Dog attack
Post by: Stevie-blunder on 19 November 2009, 19:44:24
Disgusting, hope that dog gets traced, put down (to protect other happenings) and the owner prosecuted. >:( >:(
Title: Re: Dog attack
Post by: Amigo on 19 November 2009, 19:49:08
 Appalling. :(
Title: Re: Dog attack
Post by: Tony H on 19 November 2009, 23:48:12
Generally speaking there is no such thing as a bad dog just a bad owner. If trained and controlled properly dogs should not pose a problem.
To assess what a dog is like just have a look what is on the other end of the lead.
Title: Re: Dog attack
Post by: Vamps on 19 November 2009, 23:57:08
That is appalling...........
Title: Re: Dog attack
Post by: Amigo on 19 November 2009, 23:58:05
It is down to the owners. A mate down south had a Staffie bitch called Bella. You could walk her off the lead, playfight with her, children could jump on her but she was always good natured & never a problem to anyone.
    Other breeds of dog can be savage too.
Title: Re: Dog attack
Post by: Selseybill on 20 November 2009, 02:03:43
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Generally speaking there is no such thing as a bad dog just a bad owner. If trained and controlled properly dogs should not pose a problem.
To assess what a dog is like just have a look what is on the other end of the lead.

My wife used to breed Rotties for a living and totality agree,most people buy these dogs and haven't a clue how to train them and that's where it all goes wrong.
Our 3 kids grew up with rotties and never once were they bitten/attacked.The 2 we still have would prefer to lick you to death than bite you.The other problem is some breeders  just do it for the money and don't vet the buyers.There was quite a few times my wife wouldn't sell a pup.
Title: Re: Dog attack
Post by: unlucky mark mv6 on 20 November 2009, 13:34:42
Any dog can turn anytime,no matter what the tempermant.
Title: Re: Dog attack
Post by: cruisetopoland on 20 November 2009, 13:39:11
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Any dog can turn anytime,no matter what the tempermant.

Isn't it often the way when someone gets hurt that the owner says "he's NEVER done anything like that before"
Title: Re: Dog attack
Post by: Pitchfork on 20 November 2009, 15:22:00
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Any dog can turn anytime,no matter what the tempermant.
An arguement in support of the notion that the only dogs that should be allowed are working animals (i.e. Sheep dogs, police dogs & guide dogs etc. that have been properly trained) & not pets.
Title: Re: Dog attack
Post by: unlucky mark mv6 on 20 November 2009, 19:54:10
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Any dog can turn anytime,no matter what the tempermant.

Isn't it often the way when someone gets hurt that the owner says "he's NEVER done anything like that before"
Someone i know has a dog de bordeux,and was down his house the other day with dog shut in the garden behind a child safety gate.Was a bit weary about stroking him,as most of you know these dogs are massive,and look very intimidating,but the chap said go on and stroke him, he is as soft as a bottle of pop,and thought yeah till hes riled up the wrong way,still on my guard though.
Title: Re: Dog attack
Post by: gsdtrainer on 20 November 2009, 20:49:43
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Generally speaking there is no such thing as a bad dog just a bad owner. If trained and controlled properly dogs should not pose a problem.
To assess what a dog is like just have a look what is on the other end of the lead.
I have trained dogs for years and we always say a lead is a piece of leather with a dumb animal on one end and a dog on the other
Title: Re: Dog attack
Post by: Debs. on 20 November 2009, 21:02:17
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Generally speaking there is no such thing as a bad dog just a bad owner. If trained and controlled properly dogs should not pose a problem.
To assess what a dog is like just have a look what is on the other end of the lead.
I have trained dogs for years and we always say a lead is a piece of leather with a dumb animal on one end and a dog on the other

How true! ;)
Title: Re: Dog attack
Post by: Big Fra on 20 November 2009, 21:11:42
As some of you may or may not be aware, I have two GSD's.
If you were to walk past younger one, the male, who is an all black longhair and weighs 40 kg, you would be apprehensive, and yes, I can say that the dog does not have a bad bone in is body, (he gets burped after his dinner, he loves to sook in and cuddle you, he's scared of our gerbils) plus I know the (award winning) kennels they came from,

They are still dogs and have to be treated with care and respect.
All dogs can be dangerous, regardless of the breed.
It is down to the owner as to how the dog is raised.
One of my neighbours has a gsd, but he lets it loose to roam the street, it is disobedient and barks and snaps at anyone who walks past the garden.
I never take my eyes off of mine, and am always cautious when introducing mine to strangers.
You cannot always trust who buys a dog and for what means the intend to use it.

Rant over.

That guy should hand himself in to the authorities, he gets fined, and (hopefully) learns a lesson. The dog should not be allowed to see the light of day again.
Title: Re: Dog attack
Post by: STMO999 on 20 November 2009, 21:16:07
My son's friends parents have two american bulldogs and a great dane. The friend comes here to play. Ben does not go over there.
The parents keep asking why. I would tell them but it would probably end the friendship.
Title: Re: Dog attack
Post by: Martin_1962 on 20 November 2009, 22:40:02
The cafe manager at our favourite beach has a Collie, it is a lovely natured dog who loves to play and is also very obediant. :y

It loves to catch stones and sand - a little potty ;D ;D
Title: Re: Dog attack
Post by: gsdtrainer on 21 November 2009, 18:08:47
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As some of you may or may not be aware, I have two GSD's.
If you were to walk past younger one, the male, who is an all black longhair and weighs 40 kg, you would be apprehensive, and yes, I can say that the dog does not have a bad bone in is body, (he gets burped after his dinner, he loves to sook in and cuddle you, he's scared of our gerbils) plus I know the (award winning) kennels they came from,

They are still dogs and have to be treated with care and respect.
All dogs can be dangerous, regardless of the breed.
It is down to the owner as to how the dog is raised.
One of my neighbours has a gsd, but he lets it loose to roam the street, it is disobedient and barks and snaps at anyone who walks past the garden.
I never take my eyes off of mine, and am always cautious when introducing mine to strangers.
You cannot always trust who buys a dog and for what means the intend to use it.

Rant over.

That guy should hand himself in to the authorities, he gets fined, and (hopefully) learns a lesson. The dog should not be allowed to see the light of day again.
Totally agree with what you say,BF.I,too,have two gsd's plus a border collie,and all are 100% sound.They have been trained to ignore other dog's that might decide to bark at them,but both gsd's will defend to the end if attacked .The problem is that if they turned on a dog that had attacked,they would always be treated as dangerous and get blamed,so I tend to keep away from so called pet owners who let their so called nice dogs run free.