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Title: working tax credit?
Post by: cam2502 on 05 December 2009, 14:40:02
Does anyone know much about this?

 Does it just last a year or is it ongoing?
 I know the amount you can claim differs on how much you earn, but how much of a difference is there?
 Is there a table/ scale to measure?
What about if you work inconsistent hours,say 30 one week and 43 the next?
Title: Re: working tax credit?
Post by: RobG on 05 December 2009, 14:50:01
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Does anyone know much about this?

 Does it just last a year or is it ongoing?
 I know the amount you can claim differs on how much you earn, but how much of a difference is there?
 Is there a table/ scale to measure?
What about if you work inconsistent hours,say 30 one week and 43 the next?
Claims are renewable annually.
Amounts are based on previous years gross earnigs irrespective of hours worked.
http://taxcredits.hmrc.gov.uk/HomeNew.aspx
Title: Re: working tax credit?
Post by: HolyCount on 05 December 2009, 14:50:29
Each claim lasts a year -- towards the end they send a renewal form so that you can start a claim for the next year.

AFAIK if your earnings differ week to week you need to average out what you expect to earn. The whole totals will be checked towards the end of the financial year to make sure they haven't over or under paid you.

Best bet is go to the HMRC website where they have all the gen.  The various online calculators all give different answers (and all say more than HMRC actually give you !! ).
Title: Re: working tax credit?
Post by: RobG on 05 December 2009, 14:59:27
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Each claim lasts a year -- towards the end they send a renewal form so that you can start a claim for the next year.

AFAIK if your earnings differ week to week you need to average out what you expect to earn. The whole totals will be checked towards the end of the financial year to make sure they haven't over or under paid you.

Best bet is go to the HMRC website where they have all the gen.  The various online calculators all give different answers (and all say more than HMRC actually give you !! ).
And if they have they WILL demand it back
Title: Re: working tax credit?
Post by: sexydaz on 05 December 2009, 15:54:15
if i remember rightly they ask if you work 30 hours or more and your last years figure earned also if you think you will earn more the next year or less,if you think your gonna earn more they give you less so that they dont overpay you plus if your married or live with someone you have to claim as a joint income.could be wrong but i think thats how it goes
Title: Re: working tax credit?
Post by: HolyCount on 05 December 2009, 16:24:31
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if i remember rightly they ask if you work 30 hours or more and your last years figure earned also if you think you will earn more the next year or less,if you think your gonna earn more they give you less so that they dont overpay you plus if your married or live with someone you have to claim as a joint income.could be wrong but i think thats how it goes

Basically, yes -- as far as I can make out they base what they pay on the last years earnings. But when the end of the claim year arrives they check your earnings to make sure they are close to those they used ( last years).  If you have earnt less they will top up the final payment -- it you have earnt more they will ask for some back!
Title: Re: working tax credit?
Post by: KillerWatt on 06 December 2009, 03:31:45
Just like any government benefit/relief, unless your income (that includes combined income if your old lady has to work) amounts to f**k all (or just over) then you qualify for nowt at all (nothing surprising there really).
Title: Re: working tax credit?
Post by: Martin_1962 on 06 December 2009, 10:44:53
TBH the main reason people need these tax credits is because we are all taxed too much anyway
Title: Re: working tax credit?
Post by: HolyCount on 06 December 2009, 10:49:05
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TBH the main reason people need these tax credits is because we are all taxed too much anyway

This is one basic premis that really confuses me ( easy I know) -- but ... why the hell do the benefits people say you need, say, £200 per week to live on, yet they tax you at £150 --- then pay another department to pay some back in benefits because you actually needed that amount in the first place!!!

Wouldn't it be far better ( and cheaper) to decide an across the board amount (obviously adjustable for individual circs) required as a minimum and not tax you below that figure, just to have to give it back !!!???

Does that lot make sense, or am I just jabbering again ??
Title: Re: working tax credit?
Post by: Martin_1962 on 06 December 2009, 10:50:08
Child tax credits are another messy one, but they can get rather large values.
Title: Re: working tax credit?
Post by: HolyCount on 06 December 2009, 11:17:00
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Child tax credits are another messy one, but they can get rather large values.

We get some credits towards child care only (apparently we earn too much for any others -- though I disagree!). Up to now they have been relatively straightforward. But next year Little Count gets some free care paid by the LA.

Works out as 15 hours per week --- but .... paid in three "terms"; two of 11 weeks and one of 15 weeks. In reality we get the 15 hours over only 37 weeks. So really around 10.6 hours per week over the whole year.

Fortunately HMRC have agreed to use the average figures, rather than keep changing the amounts payable as the monthly invoice from nursery will change!!

Have to wait and see whhat the figures turn out to be, but my guess is that the "free" hours will come out of the tax credits and I will still be stumping up the same as I ever was from my pocket!
Title: Re: working tax credit?
Post by: al brown on 06 December 2009, 14:35:57
It is also worth checking to see if your company is part of a childcare voucher scheme. I know HM forces do them as do a few other companys. Basically you can claim part of your wage as vouchers for registered childcare and you get them BEFORE tax an NI is taken off your wage, so saves you about 30% for basic rate. You can claim upto about £45 p/w IIRC, ask your HR or payroll clerk.
Al
Title: Re: working tax credit?
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 06 December 2009, 17:49:28
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Child tax credits are another messy one, but they can get rather large values.

There is a big advantage if you can claim both working tax credit and child tax credit....you get free nhs prescriptions. Just working tax credit doesnt get it.
Useful if your on permanent medication.
Title: Re: working tax credit?
Post by: HolyCount on 06 December 2009, 17:55:19
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Child tax credits are another messy one, but they can get rather large values.

There is a big advantage if you can claim both working tax credit and child tax credit....you get free nhs prescriptions. Just working tax credit doesnt get it.
Useful if your on permanent medication.

Wish I could have swung that -- but I am too rich ( so they say!).  That's ANOTHER thing I don't understand .... why do some permanent medication requiring illness's (diabetics, epileptics, and a few others ) get them free whilst others who need regular drugs for the rest of their lives ( cardio vascular disorders, chronic pain, etc) don't. ???
Title: Re: working tax credit?
Post by: Welung666 on 06 December 2009, 17:55:35
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Child tax credits are another messy one, but they can get rather large values.

There is a big advantage if you can claim both working tax credit and child tax credit....you get free nhs prescriptions. Just working tax credit doesnt get it.
Useful if your on permanent medication.

Certain medical conditions automatically get you free prescriptions anyway. SWMBO has a thyroid disorder and has been told she'll be exempt from prescription charges for life!
Title: Re: working tax credit?
Post by: albitz on 06 December 2009, 18:06:16
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TBH the main reason people need these tax credits is because we are all taxed too much anyway

This is one basic premis that really confuses me ( easy I know) -- but ... why the hell do the benefits people say you need, say, £200 per week to live on, yet they tax you at £150 --- then pay another department to pay some back in benefits because you actually needed that amount in the first place!!!

Wouldn't it be far better ( and cheaper) to decide an across the board amount (obviously adjustable for individual circs) required as a minimum and not tax you below that figure, just to have to give it back !!!???

Does that lot make sense, or am I just jabbering again ??
Seemples - Socialist government,therefore it is consistent with their beliefs that they take your money off you and then decide how they will redistribute it. ;)
Title: Re: working tax credit?
Post by: albitz on 06 December 2009, 18:11:45
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Child tax credits are another messy one, but they can get rather large values.

There is a big advantage if you can claim both working tax credit and child tax credit....you get free nhs prescriptions. Just working tax credit doesnt get it.
Useful if your on permanent medication.

Wish I could have swung that -- but I am too rich ( so they say!).  That's ANOTHER thing I don't understand .... why do some permanent medication requiring illness's (diabetics, epileptics, and a few others ) get them free whilst others who need regular drugs for the rest of their lives ( cardio vascular disorders, chronic pain, etc) don't. ???
I think that living in the UK but not in England is also on the list ,just after epilectics. :y :D >:(
Title: Re: working tax credit?
Post by: HolyCount on 06 December 2009, 18:54:57
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Child tax credits are another messy one, but they can get rather large values.

There is a big advantage if you can claim both working tax credit and child tax credit....you get free nhs prescriptions. Just working tax credit doesnt get it.
Useful if your on permanent medication.

Wish I could have swung that -- but I am too rich ( so they say!).  That's ANOTHER thing I don't understand .... why do some permanent medication requiring illness's (diabetics, epileptics, and a few others ) get them free whilst others who need regular drugs for the rest of their lives ( cardio vascular disorders, chronic pain, etc) don't. ???
I think that living in the UK but not in England is also on the list ,just after epilectics. :y :D >:(

Good Point !