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Title: what do i do, decisions decisions
Post by: Jay w on 20 March 2007, 12:22:49
I have verbally agreed to sell my miggy to a friend, it has 120000 miles on it and is totally reliable, in order to get it through its MOT it needs £200 spending on it.
I have found a replacement, identical in every repect to my current car but half the mileage, it does need 2 tyres a cam belt change and the cat is rattling, it also has a few trolly dings.

do I......

A- keep my car that I know well, fit gas and run it until it drops
B- buy the new one, gas it and run it for a few years

my car has been totally reliable and I need that being self employed, my worry is that the new car whilst lower mileage may have more issues.

my current miggy runs up 2000 miles a month and with business the way it is will contine to do so for at least the next year or so

any suggestions
Title: Re: what do i do, decisions decisions
Post by: STMO123 on 20 March 2007, 12:31:24
If you car has been regularly and properly serviced Jay, then 120000 miles is not a lot. They will go a lot longer. Personally, I would keep the one I had.
Title: Re: what do i do, decisions decisions
Post by: STMO123 on 20 March 2007, 12:34:05
Also, I think that a car that's done 120000 is a bit long in the tooth to be LPGing. You have probably left it too late to gain the money back before the end of its serviceable life.
Title: Re: what do i do, decisions decisions
Post by: DaveL on 20 March 2007, 12:34:21
Keep the one you know, tell friend about the other Omega. :y

Better the devil you know and all that. The forum may then get another member. ;)
 8-)
DaveL
Title: Re: what do i do, decisions decisions
Post by: tunnie on 20 March 2007, 12:34:30
Agreed. Problems stated above would cost more than to repair your current car.

I'd run it till 200k then sell, seen many V6's with that mileage.

Unless economy is your issue, if it is, then sell and get a oil burner  :y
Title: Re: what do i do, decisions decisions
Post by: Jay w on 20 March 2007, 12:52:14
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Also, I think that a car that's done 120000 is a bit long in the tooth to be LPGing. You have probably left it too late to gain the money back before the end of its serviceable life.

Hmmm that may change things....

the gas conversion costs £1250 I figured by the end of the first year it would have paid for itself, I have spent £3250 over the last year in fuel.
the engine is serviced every 3000 miles, would the engine still be good for LPG or are there issues with engines with mileage on the.

cheers for the comments BTW it has swung it for me
Title: Re: what do i do, decisions decisions
Post by: STMO123 on 20 March 2007, 12:58:59
OK. Heres the scenario. You convert your existing car to LPG, it runs great for 3 years and you save a lot of dosh. Great.

Or...it conks after 6 months and you lose a lot of dosh.

I suppose the saving grace of the second option is that you could always reclaim the LPG system and fit it to another car.

As you said mate, decisions,decisions :-/

PS. That is one hell of a fuel bill :o
Title: Re: what do i do, decisions decisions
Post by: Martin_1962 on 20 March 2007, 13:57:24
Longer between oil changes than petrol as gas burns cleaner.

1250 DIY or fitted?

payback is usually around 2 years or less
Title: Re: what do i do, decisions decisions
Post by: tunnie on 20 March 2007, 15:31:54
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Longer between oil changes than petrol as gas burns cleaner.

1250 DIY or fitted?

payback is usually around 2 years or less

If he is spending £3.2k in fuel per year, take him around 6 months to get it back!

Even a top wack install at 2k will take just 9 months to pay back.

Seams like its worth it even if you just keep it another year, but would make sense to LPG a newer lower millage megga to get the most use
Title: Re: what do i do, decisions decisions
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 20 March 2007, 15:40:05
Dont do much in the way of maths on your course do you Tunnie!
Title: Re: what do i do, decisions decisions
Post by: tunnie on 20 March 2007, 16:49:38
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Dont do much in the way of maths on your course do you Tunnie!

 :-[ :-[

Well if he spends 3.2k a year on fuel thats £266 ish a month in fuel.

2 grands worth of LPG kit will take 8 months ish to pay back?

Who needs maths! useless skill  ;D

Title: Re: what do i do, decisions decisions
Post by: ClarCE on 20 March 2007, 16:59:27
3.2K in petrol, is gas 50% cheaper?

So, 1.6K on gas per year

2k for a max install

2k would take 1600 / 12 months = 133 saving per month, 2k / 133 = 15 months repayment

Or am I way off here?
Title: Re: what do i do, decisions decisions
Post by: Jay w on 20 March 2007, 17:19:33
the conversion is a multipoint system with a 90 litre tank, can't remember the name it sounded italian.

price was full inclusive of fitting and VAT, I was shocked and so booked it in smartish before he changed his mind
Title: Re: what do i do, decisions decisions
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 20 March 2007, 17:30:29
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3.2K in petrol, is gas 50% cheaper?

So, 1.6K on gas per year

2k for a max install

2k would take 1600 / 12 months = 133 saving per month, 2k / 133 = 15 months repayment

Or am I way off here?

Much closer....Tunnie was assuming that LPG was free.....
Title: Re: what do i do, decisions decisions
Post by: Auto Addict on 20 March 2007, 17:52:52
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3.2K in petrol, is gas 50% cheaper?

So, 1.6K on gas per year

2k for a max install

2k would take 1600 / 12 months = 133 saving per month, 2k / 133 = 15 months repayment

Or am I way off here?

Much closer....Tunnie was assuming that LPG was free.....

He's thinking of a fart in a teacup...... ;)
Title: Re: what do i do, decisions decisions
Post by: Martin_1962 on 20 March 2007, 18:57:13
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the conversion is a multipoint system with a 90 litre tank, can't remember the name it sounded italian.

price was full inclusive of fitting and VAT, I was shocked and so booked it in smartish before he changed his mind


OMVL Prinz, Romano?
Title: Re: what do i do, decisions decisions
Post by: STMO123 on 20 March 2007, 19:00:53
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the conversion is a multipoint system with a 90 litre tank, can't remember the name it sounded italian.

price was full inclusive of fitting and VAT, I was shocked and so booked it in smartish before he changed his mind


OMVL Prinz, Romano?

Are we back to three little words? :o
Title: Re: what do i do, decisions decisions
Post by: Jay w on 20 March 2007, 21:46:49
the system is a Landirenzo it is gauranteed for 2 years after installation, the company is a new one in my area and i have a feeling this is an intro offer to get business up and running, the owner did ask if i objected to my car being used on his website, i have no issues so long as the no plate is blanked

That said i have just done my fuel cost calculations for the last quarter £1196 + vat  :'( at this rate the cost for this year will be close to £4500 :o

i have a feeling gas is on its way shortly, but the sub and amp have got to come out  :-/




Title: Re: what do i do, decisions decisions
Post by: Martin_1962 on 21 March 2007, 10:32:10
New company - that explains it!

Does he know where to get hot water from on the Omega V6?

He can ask here with no problems.

Move amp and sub rather than remove
Title: Re: what do i do, decisions decisions
Post by: Jay w on 21 March 2007, 12:37:19
I spoke to him in depth, he seemed to know his stuff regarding vauxhalls, he was quick to point out dispack issues and difficulties in getting to the HBV.
the sub enclosure is about the size of the LPG tank, I have 2 x 12 inch subs in there, I will have to look for a single enclosure unit I think, something a bit less in your face!!!
Title: Re: what do i do, decisions decisions
Post by: Admin on 21 March 2007, 18:33:09
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I spoke to him in depth, he seemed to know his stuff regarding vauxhalls, he was quick to point out dispack issues and difficulties in getting to the HBV.
the sub enclosure is about the size of the LPG tank, I have 2 x 12 inch subs in there, I will have to look for a single enclosure unit I think, something a bit less in your face!!!

Yes the volume required for 2x 12" subs will not be small, even with a sealed (sorry for swearing Mark! ;)) box!

Maybe go down to a single 12" unit?