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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: tunnie on 07 January 2010, 14:44:13
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most of the population don't have a feking clue when it comes to driving in snow?
Just went to the BP and back, dozy cow leaving my road put her brakes on, slid most of the way down the road, then engaged first, and sat there for a good 15 seconds spinning her wheels.
I am not the greatest in the snow, but at least i did the basics, never touch the brake pedal, and pull off in 2nd/3rd.
Loaded the boot with a big heavy box and about 10kg of grit, and 75L of fuel, that is helping quite a bit
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traction control is a help as well which i don't have :( :(
need to try and get that sorted
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all V6's came with TC? 4 pots don't have it, so far, 2nd gear and low revs and i have yet to get stuck
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same as being stuck behind numerous dozy gits driving at 25mph on a 60 mph road that has most of the snow defrosted !!!! >:( >:(
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all V6's came with TC? 4 pots don't have it, so far, 2nd gear and low revs and i have yet to get stuck
mine did have tc till the abs ecu went
i changed the ecu which later found out it came from an auto
so the tc wont work now until i can get it changed
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Because most people are not petrol heads but merely drones using a car to get from A to B. You might not fare any better in their world (kitchen, operating theatre, farmyard, steel works etc).
Sadly there isn't much desire for people to continue "learning to drive". Hence why there are problems in fog, snow, ice, rain.
Things will be better when all cars are controlled by tractor beams and the driver can read the paper, shave, have a sleep etc. Not too good for petrol heads though.
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Or the idiot creeping slowly down Humpries Drive earlier, when I was going up, and didn't have the foresight to give way to me (was her right of way - but I was trying to keep momentum up)
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I was always taught that you never stop a laden vehicle - ie. you giveway to someone driving up a hill if you are descending it. (It's far easier to pulll over / reverse than the uphill car having to stop then restart again).
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I was always taught that you never stop a laden vehicle - ie. you giveway to someone driving up a hill if you are descending it. (It's far easier to pulll over / reverse than the uphill car having to stop then restart again).
Thats my view. Obviously if it looked like she was struggling to slow/stop, I wouldn't have minded.
And she looks at me like I'm mad?
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Iirc it used to be in the highway code that you should give way to vehicles travelling uphill,but I think it was dropped at somw point. :-/
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Iirc it used to be in the highway code that you should give way to vehicles travelling uphill,but I think it was dropped at somw point. :-/
Believe it or not, I own a highway code - always keep one in the car to settle arguments.
I'd go and get it, but not sure I could open the doors....
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Dont think its in there now (although I havent looked at one for years :-[). I remember my dad telling me about it when I first started driving.You were probably in short trousers then. ;) ;D
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Dont think its in there now (although I havent looked at one for years :-[). I remember my dad telling me about it when I first started driving.You were probably in short trousers then. ;) ;D
I used to live in hot climates on a beach, and according to mum, was an exhibitionist. Therefore, I suspect I was in NO trousers ;D
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highway code is online as well now though
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The Nanny State strikes again....
.... thats the nanny (automotive) state, with an overavailability (and blind trust of the unlearned) in mainstream cars, of that technological panacea of ABS, TC, ESC, etc which automatically absolves the occupant of the controlling seat the ability to propel the vehicle to its intended destination in assorted road conditions......
Note absence of use of 'drivers' seat in the above..... ::)
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http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTransport/Highwaycode/DG_070309
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Single-track roads. These are only wide enough for one vehicle. They may have special passing places. If you see a vehicle coming towards you, or the driver behind wants to overtake, pull into a passing place on your left, or wait opposite a passing place on your right. Give way to vehicles coming uphill whenever you can. If necessary, reverse until you reach a passing place to let the other vehicle pass. Slow down when passing pedestrians, cyclists and horse riders.
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highway code is online as well now though
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTransport/Highwaycode/DG_070202
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Because most people are not petrol heads but merely drones using a car to get from A to B. You might not fare any better in their world (kitchen, operating theatre, farmyard, steel works etc).
Sadly there isn't much desire for people to continue "learning to drive". Hence why there are problems in fog, snow, ice, rain.
Things will be better when all cars are controlled by tractor beams and the driver can read the paper, shave, have a sleep etc. Not too good for petrol heads though.
yep.. agreed.. :y
this means whoever give them the license makes a big mistake.. remember there is no limitation for seasons on license ;D ;D
soo , mass transport pleeaase >:(
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Dont think its in there now (although I havent looked at one for years :-[). I remember my dad telling me about it when I first started driving.You were probably in short trousers then. ;) ;D
I used to live in hot climates on a beach, and according to mum, was an exhibitionist. Therefore, I suspect I was in NO trousers ;D
And I was just about to eat my dinner. ::) :o ;D ;D
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http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTransport/Highwaycode/DG_070309
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Single-track roads. These are only wide enough for one vehicle. They may have special passing places. If you see a vehicle coming towards you, or the driver behind wants to overtake, pull into a passing place on your left, or wait opposite a passing place on your right. Give way to vehicles coming uphill whenever you can. If necessary, reverse until you reach a passing place to let the other vehicle pass. Slow down when passing pedestrians, cyclists and horse riders.
Lookslike my old Dad was right then,and its still in there. :)
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most of the population don't have a feking clue when it comes to driving in snow?
Just went to the BP and back, dozy cow leaving my road put her brakes on, slid most of the way down the road, then engaged first, and sat there for a good 15 seconds spinning her wheels.
I am not the greatest in the snow, but at least i did the basics, never touch the brake pedal, and pull off in 2nd/3rd.
Loaded the boot with a big heavy box and about 10kg of grit, and 75L of fuel, that is helping quite a bit
Surely it's common sense that you don't put loads of power down, after all you wouldn't try to run as fast as you can on a slippery surface. I think most people assume that if they spin the wheels they will start to grip eventually. Hardly ever see it done properly
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Iirc it used to be in the highway code that you should give way to vehicles travelling uphill,but I think it was dropped at somw point. :-/
The highway code: Something you have to learn to pass your driving test. Then you can forget all about it and adopt the 'every man for himself' attitude.
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Iirc it used to be in the highway code that you should give way to vehicles travelling uphill,but I think it was dropped at somw point. :-/
The highway code: Something you have to learn to pass your driving test. Then you can forget all about it and adopt the 'every man for himself' attitude.
Absolutely right ;D
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most of the population don't have a feking clue when it comes to driving in snow?
Just went to the BP and back, dozy cow leaving my road put her brakes on, slid most of the way down the road, then engaged first, and sat there for a good 15 seconds spinning her wheels.
I am not the greatest in the snow, but at least i did the basics, never touch the brake pedal, and pull off in 2nd/3rd.
Loaded the boot with a big heavy box and about 10kg of grit, and 75L of fuel, that is helping quite a bit
Surely it's common sense that you don't put loads of power down, after all you wouldn't try to run as fast as you can on a slippery surface. I think most people assume that if they spin the wheels they will start to grip eventually. Hardly ever see it done properly
OK, what is the best way to get the car moving when you can't get any grip?
Just drove up my road without a problem. Then failed to back into my drive. Left me facing down the hill, but nowhere to park. Went down to next junction, turned round (using the sideways slide to my advantage) but then didn't have enough momentum to get up the hill again. Ended up backing down almost to the main road, and then just about made it up with the aid of the traction control - couldn't get enough speed up to manage without. Parked with difficulty next to neighbour's house, facing down for the morning.
Other neighbour shares the drive - his Seat Cupra had no problem going either way. :( :( :(
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most of the population don't have a feking clue when it comes to driving in snow?
Just went to the BP and back, dozy cow leaving my road put her brakes on, slid most of the way down the road, then engaged first, and sat there for a good 15 seconds spinning her wheels.
I am not the greatest in the snow, but at least i did the basics, never touch the brake pedal, and pull off in 2nd/3rd.
Loaded the boot with a big heavy box and about 10kg of grit, and 75L of fuel, that is helping quite a bit
Surely it's common sense that you don't put loads of power down, after all you wouldn't try to run as fast as you can on a slippery surface. I think most people assume that if they spin the wheels they will start to grip eventually. Hardly ever see it done properly
OK, what is the best way to get the car moving when you can't get any grip?
Just drove up my road without a problem. Then failed to back into my drive. Left me facing down the hill, but nowhere to park. Went down to next junction, turned round (using the sideways slide to my advantage) but then didn't have enough momentum to get up the hill again. Ended up backing down almost to the main road, and then just about made it up with the aid of the traction control - couldn't get enough speed up to manage without. Parked with difficulty next to neighbour's house, facing down for the morning.
Other neighbour shares the drive - his Seat Cupra had no problem going either way. :( :( :(
Sell the barge and buy a small FWD vehicle :y
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most of the population don't have a feking clue when it comes to driving in snow?
Just went to the BP and back, dozy cow leaving my road put her brakes on, slid most of the way down the road, then engaged first, and sat there for a good 15 seconds spinning her wheels.
I am not the greatest in the snow, but at least i did the basics, never touch the brake pedal, and pull off in 2nd/3rd.
Loaded the boot with a big heavy box and about 10kg of grit, and 75L of fuel, that is helping quite a bit
Surely it's common sense that you don't put loads of power down, after all you wouldn't try to run as fast as you can on a slippery surface. I think most people assume that if they spin the wheels they will start to grip eventually. Hardly ever see it done properly
OK, what is the best way to get the car moving when you can't get any grip?
Just drove up my road without a problem. Then failed to back into my drive. Left me facing down the hill, but nowhere to park. Went down to next junction, turned round (using the sideways slide to my advantage) but then didn't have enough momentum to get up the hill again. Ended up backing down almost to the main road, and then just about made it up with the aid of the traction control - couldn't get enough speed up to manage without. Parked with difficulty next to neighbour's house, facing down for the morning.
Other neighbour shares the drive - his Seat Cupra had no problem going either way. :( :( :(
I've only had problems in reverse. IMO the secret is good rubber, slightly lower pressures and some extra weight in the back. Then treat the loud pedal like it's got your tackle under it and use it very little, with the snowflake button pressed if required :y :y
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I witnessed a total eejut this morning our street is sheer ice kerb to curb the numpty was sat in a mini bus at the kerbside with full lock on trying to pull away revving the nuts off it and getting nowhere. ;D
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most of the population don't have a feking clue when it comes to driving in snow?
Just went to the BP and back, dozy cow leaving my road put her brakes on, slid most of the way down the road, then engaged first, and sat there for a good 15 seconds spinning her wheels.
I am not the greatest in the snow, but at least i did the basics, never touch the brake pedal, and pull off in 2nd/3rd.
Loaded the boot with a big heavy box and about 10kg of grit, and 75L of fuel, that is helping quite a bit
Surely it's common sense that you don't put loads of power down, after all you wouldn't try to run as fast as you can on a slippery surface. I think most people assume that if they spin the wheels they will start to grip eventually. Hardly ever see it done properly
OK, what is the best way to get the car moving when you can't get any grip?
Just drove up my road without a problem. Then failed to back into my drive. Left me facing down the hill, but nowhere to park. Went down to next junction, turned round (using the sideways slide to my advantage) but then didn't have enough momentum to get up the hill again. Ended up backing down almost to the main road, and then just about made it up with the aid of the traction control - couldn't get enough speed up to manage without. Parked with difficulty next to neighbour's house, facing down for the morning.
Other neighbour shares the drive - his Seat Cupra had no problem going either way. :( :( :(
I've only had problems in reverse. IMO the secret is good rubber, slightly lower pressures and some extra weight in the back. Then treat the loud pedal like it's got your tackle under it and use it very little, with the snowflake button pressed if required :y :y
Pirellis in good condition, with plenty of tread - maybe I'll lower the pressures. Got half a tank of petrol - maybe I'll fill up tomorrow. I'll put a bag of sand in the boot.
Wouldn't have got anywhere without the snowflake button - I've been using it for pulling away since the snow started. This is the first time I've had a problem getting it to go forward on the road, but it's snow on top of ice out there, and once you stop, you're done for!
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Everyone is getting stuck, it's extreme, dont feel paranoid.
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One down side of a luxobarge is traction when slippery. I used to own a Granada (wash my mouth out) which was far better at grip than the Miggy
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most of the population don't have a feking clue when it comes to driving in snow?
Just went to the BP and back, dozy cow leaving my road put her brakes on, slid most of the way down the road, then engaged first, and sat there for a good 15 seconds spinning her wheels.
I am not the greatest in the snow, but at least i did the basics, never touch the brake pedal, and pull off in 2nd/3rd.
Loaded the boot with a big heavy box and about 10kg of grit, and 75L of fuel, that is helping quite a bit
Surely it's common sense that you don't put loads of power down, after all you wouldn't try to run as fast as you can on a slippery surface. I think most people assume that if they spin the wheels they will start to grip eventually. Hardly ever see it done properly
OK, what is the best way to get the car moving when you can't get any grip?
Just drove up my road without a problem. Then failed to back into my drive. Left me facing down the hill, but nowhere to park. Went down to next junction, turned round (using the sideways slide to my advantage) but then didn't have enough momentum to get up the hill again. Ended up backing down almost to the main road, and then just about made it up with the aid of the traction control - couldn't get enough speed up to manage without. Parked with difficulty next to neighbour's house, facing down for the morning.
Other neighbour shares the drive - his Seat Cupra had no problem going either way. :( :( :(
I've only had problems in reverse. IMO the secret is good rubber, slightly lower pressures and some extra weight in the back. Then treat the loud pedal like it's got your tackle under it and use it very little, with the snowflake button pressed if required :y :y
Pirellis in good condition, with plenty of tread - maybe I'll lower the pressures. Got half a tank of petrol - maybe I'll fill up tomorrow. I'll put a bag of sand in the boot.
Wouldn't have got anywhere without the snowflake button - I've been using it for pulling away since the snow started. This is the first time I've had a problem getting it to go forward on the road, but it's snow on top of ice out there, and once you stop, you're done for!
Stick a couple of bags in ;) ;) ;) I've got a LPG tank in the boot, which I keep fairly full in weather like this, and a full petrol tank, plus the other stuff for the weather like screenwash, shovel, blankets, etc :y :y
I drop my pressures to around 31 PSI, but remember they're under inflated if you're going to be doing a lot of driving on cleared roads ;) ;)