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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Vamps on 25 February 2010, 22:24:31
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It is even cleaner than the add suggests, timing just a little wrong for me at the moment........... :(
I have had two before, so I know what they are like.... :)
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1992-ROVER-827-STIRLING-5-DOOR-NO-RESERVE_W0QQitemZ250586340440QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAutomobiles_UK?hash=item3a581c1c58
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It is even cleaner than the add suggests, timing just a little wrong for me at the moment........... :(
I have had two before, so I know what they are like.... :)
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1992-ROVER-827-STIRLING-5-DOOR-NO-RESERVE_W0QQitemZ250586340440QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAutomobiles_UK?hash=item3a581c1c58
You need a football field to turn them around. The most appaling turning circle I've ever come across. :y
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My alarm bells are ringing at the odometer reading......
Cracking cars in their day though. Managed to peddle one along quite nicely, thank you, back in the day..... :-X
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The cockpit doesn't look particularly inviting compared to a Mig, esp a facelift. I also think the Mig is considerably stronger, thicker metal, so if you hit anything you are more likely to come off still alive.
Ken
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The cockpit doesn't look particularly inviting compared to a Mig, esp a facelift. I also think the Mig is considerably stronger, thicker metal, so if you hit anything you are more likely to come off still alive.
Ken
The Rovers don't rust like Vauxhalls though...
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Cracking cars in their day though. Managed to peddle one along quite nicely, thank you, back in the day..... :-X
Ublievable understeer. It would only go straight ahead at a roundabout no matter where the steering was pointed.
I did only have it for a day or 2 :y
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Cracking cars in their day though. Managed to peddle one along quite nicely, thank you, back in the day..... :-X
Ublievable understeer. It would only go straight ahead at a roundabout no matter where the steering was pointed.
I did only have it for a day or 2 :y
They actually drove quite well if you drove to 'the system'....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roadcraft
Loads of other references, go have a rummage under Police Roadcraft....
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My alarm bells are ringing at the odometer reading......Cracking cars in their day though. Managed to peddle one along quite nicely, thank you, back in the day..... :-X
What makes you think than? the internal and external condition suggest a genuine car, though I felt that the rear archers may have been painted, if they have then a very good job, the colour may have helped in this.
I am not going to buy it, wrong time at the moment, though am tempted because you do not see many clean ones and it is on my door step, about 2 miles from work, found the place by looking at the photos :D :D :D
Had an 89 saloon that I used to part time Mini Cab when I lived in Hertford and up and down the motorway coming home, never let me down and a real flying machine, OK it is front wheel drive.... :)
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899xzx miles, just ready to trip back to an even number, thats whats a tas suss for me, I'm afraid.....
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899xzx miles, just ready to trip back to an even number, thats whats a tas suss for me, I'm afraid.....
Fair comment, If I were buying would be investigating the mechanicals anyway. Engines tend to be sound anyway, after the initial valve rattle.... :)
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Had 3 of them over the years a 86 saloon 92 hatch and a 97 stirling between them done over 200k miles. They were very reliable. They do feel very dated compared to a mig though.
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Had 3 of them over the years a 86 saloon 92 hatch and a 97 stirling between them done over 200k miles. They were very reliable. They do feel very dated compared to a mig though.
:-? :o :-? Modern, reliable, light to drive, faster, better on fuel, fewer and less complicated cam belt changes as spacious and similar price, are you sure.... :D :D :D
Anyway it was not to replace the Mig..... :)
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My father ran a couple of these, one a D plate and one an E plate. Engines were pretty good for the time but the dash was a slab of plastic and the front seats especially were awful for anything other than a short journey.
Then again a quick look on Autotrader shows you can pick up a P plate with reasonable miles for £500...
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..... fewer and less complicated cam belt changes .......
I believe a cam belt cost. in the region of £800 at a dealers, transverse engine & a balancer shaft belt.
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..... fewer and less complicated cam belt changes .......
I believe a cam belt cost. in the region of £800 at a dealers, transverse engine & a balancer shaft belt.
Noooo..... :D Even the Mitsubishi does not cost that much at my independent...... last one on a Rover at a Lada local garage was only about £200, OK about 10 years ago and 90K changes iirc.......... :y
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The cockpit doesn't look particularly inviting compared to a Mig, esp a facelift. I also think the Mig is considerably stronger, thicker metal, so if you hit anything you are more likely to come off still alive.
Ken
The Rovers don't rust like Vauxhalls though...
Those do.....worse in fact.....remember, the sterling is the US parts reject modlel.
Absolutely shite handling and ride though
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The cockpit doesn't look particularly inviting compared to a Mig, esp a facelift. I also think the Mig is considerably stronger, thicker metal, so if you hit anything you are more likely to come off still alive.
Ken
The Rovers don't rust like Vauxhalls though...
Those do.....worse in fact.....remember, the sterling is the US parts reject modlel.
Absolutely shite handling and ride though
Before BMW took over Rover in the early 90s, Rover had got to grips with rustproofing with the (then) new paint plants at each site. The 800 was made in Cowley, paint plant went live in 90/91 iirc. This was one of the technologies that BMW were interested in.
Before this technology though, agreed, they rusted every bit as bad as the Carltons/Senators or the day.
But look at a prefacelift Omega (or similar aged Vectra/Astra etc), and compare it to the same aged Rover, and easy to see Vauxhall were slow to improve in this area.
Always fancied a facelifted 800. That was going to be the car I got when I bought the MV6. It was only the shocking build quality of the 800 that put me off them (and Mrs TheBoy was quite keen on the dual heating of the Omega ;D)
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As for handling, its whats expected for a FWD, and was OK. Turbo was a bit lairy. Ride not too bad for a mid 80s FWD, but lags way behind the RWD competition.
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I have an open offer of a free 820 turbo coupe.....
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piles of shite ...... i had 2 800's as company cars..... i hated them so much, i left the company.
my sennies blew them away in EVERY department....
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piles of shite ...... i had 2 800's as company cars..... i hated them so much, i left the company.
my sennies blew them away in EVERY department....
Yeah, the RWD cars are generally far more comfy. And that Honda 827 engine wasn't that great (and we know all about the KV6 fitted to later ones ;D - better engine, but with K series problems). But compare them to the FWD cars of the same period - Scorpio, Mundano, Chavalier (and latterly Vectra) etc, they were a reasonable car (aside from some build issues). Suffered badly from BMW's lack of investment towards updates and new models (as did all Rovers).
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Had a 800 2l SI as a company car when they first came out, it went on the back of an AA truck 5 times in six months. Nice car just unreliable, went back to BMW's.
I went through half a dozen 3 series from 318i up to 325i, they got replaced every year. I was driving 50k a year without so much as a squeak, just regular servicing. :)
Funnily enough I changed companies, and went through 2 Cavalier CD Autos, and three Carltons 2L GL, a 2l CD,and a CDX all autos, without a problem also.
In fact ther only cars I ever had problems with were BL!
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I have an open offer of a free 820 turbo coupe.....
Take em up on it and give it me, I'd have it
:y
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We had a 1991 Mk1 Sterling, H779HHP if anyone knows it.....
Beautiful car, 2.7 V6, electric eveything inc reclining rear seats, in two tone (gold over grey)
My first "real" car, and so so comfortable and reliable.
I think they are greatly under-rated cars to be honest.
Very rare these days too, for obvious reasons.....
:y
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piles of shite ...... i had 2 800's as company cars..... i hated them so much, i left the company.
my sennies blew them away in EVERY department....
Yeah, the RWD cars are generally far more comfy. And that Honda 827 engine wasn't that great (and we know all about the KV6 fitted to later ones ;D - better engine, but with K series problems). But compare them to the FWD cars of the same period - Scorpio, Mundano, Chavalier (and latterly Vectra) etc, they were a reasonable car (aside from some build issues). Suffered badly from BMW's lack of investment towards updates and new models (as did all Rovers).
Scorpio's are/were RWD :y
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piles of shite ...... i had 2 800's as company cars..... i hated them so much, i left the company.
my sennies blew them away in EVERY department....
Yeah, the RWD cars are generally far more comfy. And that Honda 827 engine wasn't that great (and we know all about the KV6 fitted to later ones ;D - better engine, but with K series problems). But compare them to the FWD cars of the same period - Scorpio, Mundano, Chavalier (and latterly Vectra) etc, they were a reasonable car (aside from some build issues). Suffered badly from BMW's lack of investment towards updates and new models (as did all Rovers).
Scorpio's are/were RWD :y
We also used four wheel drive versions..... ;)
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piles of shite ...... i had 2 800's as company cars..... i hated them so much, i left the company.
my sennies blew them away in EVERY department....
Yeah, the RWD cars are generally far more comfy. And that Honda 827 engine wasn't that great (and we know all about the KV6 fitted to later ones ;D - better engine, but with K series problems). But compare them to the FWD cars of the same period - Scorpio, Mundano, Chavalier (and latterly Vectra) etc, they were a reasonable car (aside from some build issues). Suffered badly from BMW's lack of investment towards updates and new models (as did all Rovers).
Scorpio's are/were RWD :y
We also used four wheel drive versions..... ;)
Indeed, they handled lovely.
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Had four of these, two diesels(one saloon & one fastback), they run the VM 2.5 & they're cracking motors.
The other two where 2.0's & one being Vitesse Coupe.
The only one to have some rust was the Coupe & that was through neglect from previous owners :(
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Old age is when you begin to find Rovers attractive.
Mmmm, nice Rover. :'(
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My rover was nice........
(http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n156/stmo987/49_3.jpg)
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My rover was nice........
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there was only ever one nice Rover ........ (I know they rotted in more places than most cars have places ..... :-?)
(http://classiccarsales.ie/files/cars/images/big/Rover_P5B_COUPE_adbab962f20bde114872a6ae2b30962f.jpg)
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The Rover 75/MG ZT, was a fantastic looking car I thought :y
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My rover was nice........
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there was only ever one nice Rover ........ (I know they rotted in more places than most cars have places ..... :-?)
(http://classiccarsales.ie/files/cars/images/big/Rover_P5B_COUPE_adbab962f20bde114872a6ae2b30962f.jpg)
Is that why you like omegas?
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The Rover 75/MG ZT, was a fantastic looking car I thought :y
A man of taste Del :y
And less expensive to run/maintain than my omega. ::)
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Big shame they never made this too :(
(http://www.rovertorque.co.uk/images/r75coupef.jpg)
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My rover was nice........
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there was only ever one nice Rover ........ (I know they rotted in more places than most cars have places ..... :-?)
(http://classiccarsales.ie/files/cars/images/big/Rover_P5B_COUPE_adbab962f20bde114872a6ae2b30962f.jpg)
Is that why you like me?
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Big shame they never made this too :(
(http://www.autogaleria.pl/tapety/img/rover/rover_75_coupe_concept_2004_02_s.jpg)
What?
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My rover was nice........
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there was only ever one nice Rover ........ (I know they rotted in more places than most cars have places ..... :-?)
(http://classiccarsales.ie/files/cars/images/big/Rover_P5B_COUPE_adbab962f20bde114872a6ae2b30962f.jpg)
Is that why you like me?
Thinking inside the box again Pete? ::)
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Big shame they never made this too :(
(http://www.autogaleria.pl/tapety/img/rover/rover_75_coupe_concept_2004_02_s.jpg)
What?
Well it was another good looking car.
I have always fancied a ZT to be honest, a 4.6 mind you but it's got such a crap engine, and the 2.5 was faster around the top gear test track iirc :-/
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Big shame they never made this too :(
(http://www.autogaleria.pl/tapety/img/rover/rover_75_coupe_concept_2004_02_s.jpg)
What?
Well it was another good looking car.
I have always fancied a ZT to be honest, a 4.6 mind you but it's got such a crap engine, and the 2.5 was faster around the top gear test track iirc :-/
Can't see any car Del, just a box :(
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My rover was nice........
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there was only ever one nice Rover ........ (I know they rotted in more places than most cars have places ..... :-?)
(http://classiccarsales.ie/files/cars/images/big/Rover_P5B_COUPE_adbab962f20bde114872a6ae2b30962f.jpg)
Is that why you like me?
Thinking inside the box again Pete? ::)
I get let out sometimes :y
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Big shame they never made this too :(
(http://www.autogaleria.pl/tapety/img/rover/rover_75_coupe_concept_2004_02_s.jpg)
What?
Well it was another good looking car.
I have always fancied a ZT to be honest, a 4.6 mind you but it's got such a crap engine, and the 2.5 was faster around the top gear test track iirc :-/
Can't see any car Del, just a box :(
Look again :y
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Big shame they never made this too :(
(http://www.autogaleria.pl/tapety/img/rover/rover_75_coupe_concept_2004_02_s.jpg)
What?
Well it was another good looking car.
I have always fancied a ZT to be honest, a 4.6 mind you but it's got such a crap engine, and the 2.5 was faster around the top gear test track iirc :-/
Can't see any car Del, just a box :(
Look again :y
Yeah. I posted that very picture up a couple of years back and asked the same question. Lovely looking coupe.
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Big shame they never made this too :(
(http://www.autogaleria.pl/tapety/img/rover/rover_75_coupe_concept_2004_02_s.jpg)
What?
Well it was another good looking car.
I have always fancied a ZT to be honest, a 4.6 mind you but it's got such a crap engine, and the 2.5 was faster around the top gear test track iirc :-/
Can't see any car Del, just a box :(
That'll be the box i'm thinking in :y
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Big shame they never made this too :(
(http://www.autogaleria.pl/tapety/img/rover/rover_75_coupe_concept_2004_02_s.jpg)
What?
Well it was another good looking car.
I have always fancied a ZT to be honest, a 4.6 mind you but it's got such a crap engine, and the 2.5 was faster around the top gear test track iirc :-/
Can't see any car Del, just a box :(
That'll be the box i'm thinking in :y
Pete in a box. Now there's an idea. ::)
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Big shame they never made this too :(
(http://www.autogaleria.pl/tapety/img/rover/rover_75_coupe_concept_2004_02_s.jpg)
What?
Well it was another good looking car.
I have always fancied a ZT to be honest, a 4.6 mind you but it's got such a crap engine, and the 2.5 was faster around the top gear test track iirc :-/
Can't see any car Del, just a box :(
Look again :y
Yeah. I posted that very picture up a couple of years back and asked the same question. Lovely looking coupe.
I seriously do think thats one of the best looking cars I've seen in the past 10 years.
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My rover was nice........
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there was only ever one nice Rover ........ (I know they rotted in more places than most cars have places ..... :-?)
(http://classiccarsales.ie/files/cars/images/big/Rover_P5B_COUPE_adbab962f20bde114872a6ae2b30962f.jpg)
Agreed, Andy - very handsome car indeed 8-) 8-) :y
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My favourite would be the Rover P6, had a couple, very advanced for their time............ :y
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My uncle had a Rover 90, and we went all over the country, now that was a car. Chassis built from girders, and a starting handle to break your wrist on. A big leather bench seat at the front ( for your pleasure), Oh and a freewheel drive switch on the dash.
GREAT DAYS, before motorways, drink driving, and traffic wardens etc :)
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Well it Sold for £900.05 a lot for an old Rover but given its condition not a lot of money for this car.... :y