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Title: Time to bend over...
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 09 March 2010, 13:56:35
... and go to the Pug stealers  :'(

The EML is still on, on the HDi, it's misfiring under load, with intermittent severity. Sometimes hardly noticable, sometimes practically running on 3.

My ELM 327 will not connect to get the codes, despite the car being OBDII compliant. Probably a cheap nasty lead if anything - laptop won't even "connect to interface" Despite serial port settings being correct.

There is also a nice injector knock at lower revs under load.

Strangely - no black smoke which I would expect if an injector was failing.

I would imagine there is good boost pressure etc - it makes a nice subtle whistle when you put the boot down..

It's no good second guessing the fault without reading the codes and looking at live data...

Phone call with pug today:

Me: "Hi, can I arrange to bring my 406 HDi in please. I would like the codes in the Engine ECU read, and a live data check".

Them: "Certainly sir, but I don't know what you are asking for"

Me: "You should have equipment you can connect to the car for reading stored faults".

Them: "Ah you want a diagnostic printout. Those are £57 sir".

Me: "Erm, ok - can you confirm the technician will discuss the fault with me and look at the live data in realtime to get a reliable indication of what's going on?"

Them:" Let me go and check sir". "Yes, he says he can do a *diagnostic check*."

Me: "Sigh, Ok, when can I come in"

Them: "What model is your car, sir".

Me: "It's a 406 2.0 HDi"

Them: "Is that a petrol or a diesel"?
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Should I really trust the fault with these clowns?

All I need is to talk to the ECU... my local garage say they can do it, but their bosch wireless thingy wasn't working last night  :(


Title: Re: Time to bend over...
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 09 March 2010, 14:04:37
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... and go to the Pug stealers  :'(

The EML is still on, on the HDi, it's misfiring under load, with intermittent severity. Sometimes hardly noticable, sometimes practically running on 3.

My ELM 327 will not connect to get the codes, despite the car being OBDII compliant. Probably a cheap nasty lead if anything - laptop won't even "connect to interface" Despite serial port settings being correct.

There is also a nice injector knock at lower revs under load.

Strangely - no black smoke which I would expect if an injector was failing.

I would imagine there is good boost pressure etc - it makes a nice subtle whistle when you put the boot down..

It's no good second guessing the fault without reading the codes and looking at live data...

Phone call with pug today:

Me: "Hi, can I arrange to bring my 406 HDi in please. I would like the codes in the Engine ECU read, and a live data check".

Them: "Certainly sir, but I don't know what you are asking for"

Me: "You should have equipment you can connect to the car for reading stored faults".

Them: "Ah you want a diagnostic printout. Those are £57 sir".

Me: "Erm, ok - can you confirm the technician will discuss the fault with me and look at the live data in realtime to get a reliable indication of what's going on?"

Them:" Let me go and check sir". "Yes, he says he can do a *diagnostic check*."

Me: "Sigh, Ok, when can I come in"

Them: "What model is your car, sir".

Me: "It's a 406 2.0 HDi"

Them: "Is that a petrol or a diesel"?
___________________________________

Should I really trust the fault with these clowns?

All I need is to talk to the ECU... my local garage say they can do it, but their bosch wireless thingy wasn't working last night  :(



 :o :-? :(

hoping the techie is a bit better.. :-/

Title: Re: Time to bend over...
Post by: Jimbob on 09 March 2010, 14:05:47
That conversation doesnt fill you with confidence does it!

any other local pug dealers?
Title: Re: Time to bend over...
Post by: Welung666 on 09 March 2010, 14:06:53
James have you tried with a generic code reader? I'm sure my Sealey VS8700 would read and clear the codes. It has limited live data capabilities as well. Let me know if you wanna save £57 ;) ;D ;D
Title: Re: Time to bend over...
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 09 March 2010, 14:18:23
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James have you tried with a generic code reader? I'm sure my Sealey VS8700 would read and clear the codes. It has limited live data capabilities as well. Let me know if you wanna save £57 ;) ;D ;D

Where are you mate?  :y
Title: Re: Time to bend over...
Post by: Elite Pete on 09 March 2010, 14:20:33
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James have you tried with a generic code reader? I'm sure my Sealey VS8700 would read and clear the codes. It has limited live data capabilities as well. Let me know if you wanna save £57 ;) ;D ;D

Where are you mate?  :y
Sat infront of his computer  ;D
Title: Re: Time to bend over...
Post by: Welung666 on 09 March 2010, 14:22:10
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James have you tried with a generic code reader? I'm sure my Sealey VS8700 would read and clear the codes. It has limited live data capabilities as well. Let me know if you wanna save £57 ;) ;D ;D

Where are you mate?  :y
Sat infront of his computer  ;D

INCORRECT... I was in the garden havin' a fag ;D ;D

Dudley, about 15 mins off J4 M5 ;)
Title: Re: Time to bend over...
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 09 March 2010, 14:22:29
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James have you tried with a generic code reader? I'm sure my Sealey VS8700 would read and clear the codes. It has limited live data capabilities as well. Let me know if you wanna save £57 ;) ;D ;D

Where are you mate?  :y
Sat infront of his computer  ;D

Who pulled your chain  >:( ;D
Title: Re: Time to bend over...
Post by: Elite Pete on 09 March 2010, 14:24:45
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James have you tried with a generic code reader? I'm sure my Sealey VS8700 would read and clear the codes. It has limited live data capabilities as well. Let me know if you wanna save £57 ;) ;D ;D

Where are you mate?  :y
Sat infront of his computer  ;D

INCORRECT... I was in the garden havin' a fag ;D ;D

Dudley, about 15 mins off J4 M5 ;)
Is Daz at your then ;D ;D
Title: Re: Time to bend over...
Post by: Welung666 on 09 March 2010, 14:25:56
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James have you tried with a generic code reader? I'm sure my Sealey VS8700 would read and clear the codes. It has limited live data capabilities as well. Let me know if you wanna save £57 ;) ;D ;D

Where are you mate?  :y
Sat infront of his computer  ;D

INCORRECT... I was in the garden havin' a fag ;D ;D

Dudley, about 15 mins off J4 M5 ;)
Is Daz at your then ;D ;D

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Time to bend over...
Post by: Hannah Judes Dad on 09 March 2010, 14:29:54
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James have you tried with a generic code reader? I'm sure my Sealey VS8700 would read and clear the codes. It has limited live data capabilities as well. Let me know if you wanna save £57 ;) ;D ;D

Where are you mate?  :y
Sat infront of his computer  ;D

INCORRECT... I was in the garden havin' a fag ;D ;D

Dudley, about 15 mins off J4 M5 ;)
Is Daz at your then ;D ;D

 ;D ;D ;D

Are you suggesting that the Dark Lord 'gets around a bit'?  ;D
Title: Re: Time to bend over...
Post by: Welung666 on 09 March 2010, 14:39:28
I've PM'd my number over James just in case as I'm off to work now :y
Title: Re: Time to bend over...
Post by: Entwood on 09 March 2010, 14:43:10
James ... no idea what the maxscan reads on a diesel doing live data .. but you are in the swidnod area you are welcome to try it !!

:)
Title: Re: Time to bend over...
Post by: Welung666 on 10 March 2010, 13:57:56
It was very nice to meet you yesterday James, I just hope you're getting on OK now you can read the codes ;)
Title: Re: Time to bend over...
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 10 March 2010, 16:40:23
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It was very nice to meet you yesterday James, I just hope you're getting on OK now you can read the codes ;)

Likewise mate - it was a pleasure, and many many thanks for letting me borrow the kit  :y

I have come to the conclusion that my car is either

A) Not EOBD/ODBII compliant, or
B) The Diag port is shagged

Because the sealey won't work either - it doesn't even power up  :'( :'( :'(

I really am going to have to go get shafted by a dealer, aren't I?  :-[
Title: Re: Time to bend over...
Post by: neilr on 10 March 2010, 16:44:38
my reader wont do citroen or peugeot turns out theyve got there own software bl**dy french!
Title: Re: Time to bend over...
Post by: Welung666 on 10 March 2010, 17:27:50
Have a read of [size=14]THIS[/size] (http://www.peugeotdiesel.com/OBD2.html)[/url]....

It may explain a few things, can't remember if any of those protocols are on the Sealey.