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Title: Goodbye to the village hall disco?
Post by: Nickbat on 10 March 2010, 17:58:00
"....So, churches, village halls, charity shops and sports clubs across the United Kingdom face a new £20 million levy. New regulations by Lord Mandelson's Whitehall empire are to abolish charities’ and voluntary groups’ long-standing exemption from paying music licensing fees – hitting them with unexpected new bills just for holding events with recorded music or for playing a radio....


...Lord Mandelson’s department admits that the new levies will cost voluntary groups up to £20 million a year. Some organisations will 'cease playing music' because they cannot afford a licence, and it will hit a quarter of a million organisations – 140,000 charities, 6,750 charity shops, 66,440 sports clubs, 4,000 community buildings, 5,000 rural halls and 45,000 religious buildings."


http://archbishop-cranmer.blogspot.com/2010/03/church-commisioner-mandelson.html

What is it about the British way of life that these people hate so much that they're hell-bent on destroying it? They came for your pub, they came for your local post office and, from 10th April, they will have their sights set on the hub of the village...the village hall. :(

I'm glad I don't live in a village, myself. I'd be getting a bit upset now. ;)

Lord Fondlebum, again, though. What do you expect?
Title: Re: Goodbye to the village hall disco?
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 10 March 2010, 18:38:08
[size=24]Have no fear,
The Conservatives will soon be here,
In power to turn your fears,
As you drink bears,
And bring you cheer, cheer, cheer! ;D ;D ;D
[/size]

Title: Re: Goodbye to the village hall disco?
Post by: doog on 10 March 2010, 18:38:53
A ppl licence is not thousands of pounds
 I need one as im a dj  but so does everyone from  dance class instructors  to night clubs and everything else inbetween

this is not a new thing

Doug
Title: Re: Goodbye to the village hall disco?
Post by: Nickbat on 10 March 2010, 18:51:48
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A ppl licence is not thousands of pounds
 I need one as im a dj  but so does everyone from  dance class instructors  to night clubs and everything else inbetween

this is not a new thing

Doug


It is new as charities’ and voluntary groups’ long-standing exemption from paying music licensing fees is to be abolished from 10th April 2010.

Whether or not it's a great financial burden would depend on the size of the event. As I see it, a  few kids gathering for a birthday party in a church hall would now have to pay the fee.

What really grates is the fact that this government spends money like it's going out of fashion and then has the bare-faced cheek to try and recoup cash from village halls and the like. Petty-minded bureaucracy at its worst.  >:(
Title: Re: Goodbye to the village hall disco?
Post by: Varche on 10 March 2010, 19:04:42
Live to work or work to live?

Title: Re: Goodbye to the village hall disco?
Post by: STMO999 on 10 March 2010, 19:08:56
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[size=24]Have no fear,
The Conservatives will soon be here,
In power to turn your fears,
As you drink bears,
And bring you cheer, cheer, cheer! ;D ;D ;D
[/size]



I wouldn't try to drink a bear, I believe they're quite ferocious. :o
Title: Re: Goodbye to the village hall disco?
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 10 March 2010, 19:13:38
..............well this is what the Performing Rights Society states about having a licence NOW..........forget about "after 1st April"

http://www.prsformusic.com/users/businessesandliveevents/musicforbusinesses/charityandcommunity/Pages/default.aspx#3

From what I remember of my retail days and organizing charity events in church halls, there was very few exceptions for not having a licence........unless you just risked it!! :D :D :D
Title: Re: Goodbye to the village hall disco?
Post by: Hannah Judes Dad on 10 March 2010, 19:15:03
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Quote
[size=24]Have no fear,
The Conservatives will soon be here,
In power to turn your fears,
As you drink bears,
And bring you cheer, cheer, cheer! ;D ;D ;D
[/size]



I wouldn't try to drink a bear, I believe they're quite ferocious. :o

Perhaps Elizabeth is an expert bear wrestler in her spare time  :D
Title: Re: Goodbye to the village hall disco?
Post by: TheBoy on 10 March 2010, 19:17:40
Mandleson is a corrupt little tosser, and takes too many backhanders. If you don't backhand him, he blocks you.


I sincerely hope he dies a slow painful death, useless prick.
Title: Re: Goodbye to the village hall disco?
Post by: STMO999 on 10 March 2010, 19:20:55
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Mandleson is a corrupt little tosser, and takes it up the arse.. If you don't bonk his jacksie, he blocks you.


I sincerely hope catches AIDS and dies a slow painful death, useless prick.

 :o :o

Title: Re: Goodbye to the village hall disco?
Post by: mudflap on 10 March 2010, 19:23:01
Will "members-only" private clubs be exempt from paying public performance licence fees?   


Title: Re: Goodbye to the village hall disco?
Post by: albitz on 10 March 2010, 19:49:28
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[size=24]Have no fear,
The Conservatives will soon be here,
In power to turn your fears,
As you drink bears,
And bring you cheer, cheer, cheer! ;D ;D ;D
[/size]

That is looking less likely by the day. Ive always said they backed the wrong horse with Cameron, and it looks like its going to be proved true. I take no pleasure in saying so, although I think they are useless I hate nu liebore with a passion and would vote for anything or anyone if it helped get rid of them.
Title: Re: Goodbye to the village hall disco?
Post by: albitz on 10 March 2010, 19:51:09
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Will "members-only" private clubs be exempt from paying public performance licence fees?   


They are not exempt currently. I am a commitee member of a members only club and we have to pay for a licence annually just to be able to play CD,s in the club.
Title: Re: Goodbye to the village hall disco?
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 10 March 2010, 19:56:39
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[size=24]Have no fear,
The Conservatives will soon be here,
In power to turn your fears,
As you drink bears,
And bring you cheer, cheer, cheer! ;D ;D ;D
[/size]

That is looking less likely by the day. Ive always said they backed the wrong horse with Cameron, and it looks like its going to be proved true. I take no pleasure in saying so, although I think they are useless I hate nu liebore with a passion and would vote for anything or anyone if it helped get rid of them.

I am getting increasingly afraid you could be right Albs! :o :o :'( :'(  Cameron has certainly got his work to do to reverse some damaging issues! ::) ::)

He was bloody brilliant on the Alan Titmarsh show this afternoon; but he needs a lot more of that! :( :(
Title: Re: Goodbye to the village hall disco?
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 10 March 2010, 19:59:12
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Mandleson is a corrupt little tosser, and takes too many backhanders. If you don't backhand him, he blocks you.


I sincerely hope he dies a slow painful death, useless prick.

You are being far too kind there TB!! :D :D :D

I'd love to keep him incarcerated and castrated until the bugger dies!! >:( >:(
Title: Re: Goodbye to the village hall disco?
Post by: albitz on 10 March 2010, 20:13:15
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Mandleson is a corrupt little tosser, and takes too many backhanders. If you don't backhand him, he blocks you.


I sincerely hope he dies a slow painful death, useless prick.

You are being far too kind there TB!! :D :D :D

I'd love to keep him incarcerated and castrated until the bugger dies!! >:( >:(
Agreed , a hateful (but clever) man.creature.
Imo Cameron comes across as a latter day Tony Blair - says what people want to hear, with a nice grin, polished presentation, but not much substance. I think people have had enough of that tbh.
Unbelievably, people now seem to be buying into the image of Brown the serious world leader and world authority on economics.. If it wasnt so serious it would be rather hilarious. :(
Title: Re: Goodbye to the village hall disco?
Post by: Banjax on 10 March 2010, 20:20:56
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"....So, churches, village halls, charity shops and sports clubs across the United Kingdom face a new £20 million levy. New regulations by Lord Mandelson's Whitehall empire are to abolish charities’ and voluntary groups’ long-standing exemption from paying music licensing fees – hitting them with unexpected new bills just for holding events with recorded music or for playing a radio....


...Lord Mandelson’s department admits that the new levies will cost voluntary groups up to £20 million a year. Some organisations will 'cease playing music' because they cannot afford a licence, and it will hit a quarter of a million organisations – 140,000 charities, 6,750 charity shops, 66,440 sports clubs, 4,000 community buildings, 5,000 rural halls and 45,000 religious buildings."


http://archbishop-cranmer.blogspot.com/2010/03/church-commisioner-mandelson.html

What is it about the British way of life that these people hate so much that they're hell-bent on destroying it? They came for your pub, they came for your local post office and, from 10th April, they will have their sights set on the hub of the village...the village hall. :(

I'm glad I don't live in a village, myself. I'd be getting a bit upset now. ;)

Lord Fondlebum, again, though. What do you expect?

I think he'd prefer you address him as The Right Honourable the Baron Mandelson of Foy in the County of Herefordshire and Hartlepool in the County of Durham, First Secretary of State and Lord President of the Privy Council and Secretary of State for Business and Secretary of State for Innovation and Skills, and Church Commissioner.
 :y :y
Title: Re: Goodbye to the village hall disco?
Post by: albitz on 10 March 2010, 20:25:55
Or  - Prime minister in all but name might be easier.   ;)........I have a theory that he may be the Prime Minister officially before too long if they get back in. I hope to christ Im wrong. >:( :'(
Im starting to think that democracy (or at least our perverted version of it) is an overrated concept.
Title: Re: Goodbye to the village hall disco?
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 10 March 2010, 20:28:25
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Mandleson is a corrupt little tosser, and takes too many backhanders. If you don't backhand him, he blocks you.


I sincerely hope he dies a slow painful death, useless prick.

You are being far too kind there TB!! :D :D :D

I'd love to keep him incarcerated and castrated until the bugger dies!! >:( >:(
Agreed , a hateful (but clever) man.creature.
Imo Cameron comes across as a latter day Tony Blair - says what people want to hear, with a nice grin, polished presentation, but not much substance. I think people have had enough of that tbh.
Unbelievably, people now seem to be buying into the image of Brown the serious world leader and world authority on economics.. If it wasnt so serious it would be rather hilarious. :(

Agreed again Albs!  Our future depends on 'the right' decision being made, but for me it seems to be going the wrong way!!  Gordon Brown.....grrrrrrrrrrrrrr:'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Goodbye to the village hall disco?
Post by: albitz on 10 March 2010, 20:32:28
If I lived in a marginal constitiuency I would reluctantly vote Nu Tory to try to ensure the end of Nu Liebore. I live in a true blue area so will have the luxury of voting UKIP, to try to help pull the Tories back to the right, where they belong. :)
Title: Re: Goodbye to the village hall disco?
Post by: Martin_1962 on 10 March 2010, 21:30:14
I'd like to see Darth Meddleson dead
Title: Re: Goodbye to the village hall disco?
Post by: Hannah Judes Dad on 10 March 2010, 21:35:47
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I'd like to see Darth Meddleson dead

and replaced with Darth Loo Knee ?  :D
Title: Re: Goodbye to the village hall disco?
Post by: Vamps on 10 March 2010, 21:47:44
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"....So, churches, village halls, charity shops and sports clubs across the United Kingdom face a new £20 million levy. New regulations by Lord Mandelson's Whitehall empire are to abolish charities’ and voluntary groups’ long-standing exemption from paying music licensing fees – hitting them with unexpected new bills just for holding events with recorded music or for playing a radio....


...Lord Mandelson’s department admits that the new levies will cost voluntary groups up to £20 million a year. Some organisations will 'cease playing music' because they cannot afford a licence, and it will hit a quarter of a million organisations – 140,000 charities, 6,750 charity shops, 66,440 sports clubs, 4,000 community buildings, 5,000 rural halls and 45,000 religious buildings."


http://archbishop-cranmer.blogspot.com/2010/03/church-commisioner-mandelson.html

What is it about the British way of life that these people hate so much that they're hell-bent on destroying it? They came for your pub, they came for your local post office and, from 10th April, they will have their sights set on the hub of the village...the village hall. :(

I'm glad I don't live in a village, myself. I'd be getting a bit upset now. ;)

Lord Fondlebum, again, though. What do you expect?

I think he'd prefer you address him as The Right Honourable the Baron Mandelson of Foy in the County of Herefordshire and Hartlepool in the County of Durham, First Secretary of State and Lord President of the Privy Council and Secretary of State for Business and Secretary of State for Innovation and Skills, and Church Commissioner.
 :y :y

May I point out that Hartlepool is not in the County of Durham.....................
Title: Re: Goodbye to the village hall disco?
Post by: albitz on 10 March 2010, 22:13:32
If Fondlebum says it is then it probably now is Vamps. He is no respecter of any British heritage/traditions/laws etc. ;)
He is the only one with enough brains and cunning to be holding the whole Nu Liebore experiment together, Brown would be ancient history by now if it werent for him, so it apparently gives him the right to do what he wants.If he wants the city of Liverpool to be in the county of Cornwall some civil servant will probably have to arrange it.
Remarkable really, considering that not that long ago he was a political pariah who had done so many dirty and illegal deeds that he dare not show his face in this country. I suppose it shows how bad things have become and how fickle and memory selective the British media and public can be. >:(
Title: Re: Goodbye to the village hall disco?
Post by: Vamps on 10 March 2010, 23:14:46
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If Fondlebum says it is then it probably now is Vamps. He is no respecter of any British heritage/traditions/laws etc. ;)
He is the only one with enough brains and cunning to be holding the whole Nu Liebore experiment together, Brown would be ancient history by now if it werent for him, so it apparently gives him the right to do what he wants.If he wants the city of Liverpool to be in the county of Cornwall some civil servant will probably have to arrange it.
Remarkable really, considering that not that long ago he was a political pariah who had done so many dirty and illegal deeds that he dare not show his face in this country. I suppose it shows how bad things have become and how fickle and memory selective the British media and public can be. >:(

Historically yes but not for many a year, we don't hang our Monkeys, we send them to Wales, to look after the sheep :D :D :D
Title: Re: Goodbye to the village hall disco?
Post by: Martin_1962 on 10 March 2010, 23:34:53
Actually how come Meddlesom still hasn't been assinated?

Would get a medal :y
Title: Re: Goodbye to the village hall disco?
Post by: Pitchfork on 11 March 2010, 09:33:42
There is of course a simple solution......
Keep Music Live as we say in the MU
Title: Re: Goodbye to the village hall disco?
Post by: Sixstring on 11 March 2010, 11:51:49
As a Guitarist/singer that had been entertaining for over 25 years, I constantly find venues are closing down due to cost of licencing, etc. Where 10 years ago they were able to offer solo acts or duos without an entertainment licence, they now have to have one to be able to have a bloke with an keyboard warble all night, or even to have a bit of "background music" whilst punters drink!!

ANOTHER revenue raiser from NU-labour!!
Title: Re: Goodbye to the village hall disco?
Post by: threppence on 11 March 2010, 12:11:10
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"....So, churches, village halls, charity shops and sports clubs across the United Kingdom face a new £20 million levy. New regulations by Lord Mandelson's Whitehall empire are to abolish charities[ch8217] and voluntary groups[ch8217] long-standing exemption from paying music licensing fees [ch8211] hitting them with unexpected new bills just for holding events with recorded music or for playing a radio....


...Lord Mandelson[ch8217]s department admits that the new levies will cost voluntary groups up to £20 million a year. Some organisations will 'cease playing music' because they cannot afford a licence, and it will hit a quarter of a million organisations [ch8211] 140,000 charities, 6,750 charity shops, 66,440 sports clubs, 4,000 community buildings, 5,000 rural halls and 45,000 religious buildings."


http://archbishop-cranmer.blogspot.com/2010/03/church-commisioner-mandelson.html

What is it about the British way of life that these people hate so much that they're hell-bent on destroying it? They came for your pub, they came for your local post office and, from 10th April, they will have their sights set on the hub of the village...the village hall. :(

I'm glad I don't live in a village, myself. I'd be getting a bit upset now. ;)

Lord Fondlebum, again, though. What do you expect?


First they came for the Pub
But i didn't speak out because i wasn't a drinker

Next they came for the Post office
But I didn't speak out because  I wasn't a letter writer

Next they came for the Village hall
But I didn't speak out because I live in a large conurbation

next they came for me
And there was no one left to speak out .

FFS !!! I'm surprised that village hall discos still exhist what with all the H&S,insurance coverage against some numpty tripping over the step or slipping on some spilt orange juice,fire,police and a more than 2 person gathering licence or however much bloody form filling is required.have you seen how much you have to fill in now for your kid to have a day out with the school.

I guess theres nowt more pressing for them to be worried about right now what with the country being in such marvellous condition.

Oooooh!!! and the Budget to look forward to.


Title: Re: Goodbye to the village hall disco?
Post by: PhilRich on 11 March 2010, 22:14:40
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Mandleson is a corrupt little tosser, and takes too many backhanders. If you don't backhand him, he blocks you.


I sincerely hope he dies a slow painful death, useless prick.



He takes quite a few things from the back doesn't he? :D ;)