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Title: Welder needed for locomotive restoration
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 10 March 2010, 08:06:45
A little picture of a certain loco whch many wanted to save from last September.

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b394/Marks_DTM_Calib/IMG_0689.jpg)

So, if you know of any good welders....
Title: Re: Welder needed for locomotive restoration
Post by: tunnie on 10 March 2010, 08:12:31
i do need something to get started on  ;D
Title: Re: Welder needed for locomotive restoration
Post by: Debs. on 10 March 2010, 08:30:41
Oh my goodness! :'(

I hope you managed to salvage all the components you needed for yours, Mark? :-/
Title: Re: Welder needed for locomotive restoration
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 10 March 2010, 08:34:05
Yes, that shot does not have the cabs in it (they are aluminium so get squirreled away very quickly!) or the donk which we were removing cams and pumps from.

Quite a well known loco that one:

http://www.wnxxforum.com/interactive/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=5387&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&hilit=47145

And a picture such as that in a scrap yard is a rare one to...
Title: Re: Welder needed for locomotive restoration
Post by: Elite Pete on 10 March 2010, 08:52:01
Give it Jaime to weld, he must be quite good at it by now ::)
Title: Re: Welder needed for locomotive restoration
Post by: alunonhisown on 10 March 2010, 10:34:19
Way to many Class 37's gone this way.
Oh I love the Class 37, like my men, big and butch, like the Deltic I suppose, but for some reason the Deltic don't do it for me.

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/gb/diesel/37/37_7/Railfreight+TR/37702.jpg
Seen that loco a few times BEFORE it was exported to Spain.
It was one of two that went the same day, and the other one crashed  after a few days.
Hope 37702 is still going strong.
Memories.
Title: Re: Welder needed for locomotive restoration
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 10 March 2010, 11:56:10
Lol....37's are big, but strong there not....a little under powered in reality.

The 'Neds' (e.g. Mr Imber  ;)) like them because of the sound....which is because the exhaust silencer consists of 2 turbos and some pipe!

I do a little work on 37009 which we are restoring.
Title: Re: Welder needed for locomotive restoration
Post by: alunonhisown on 10 March 2010, 12:03:32
I wanna be part of that.
I am in love with the 37, better than any bloke.
Cwmbargoed DP is open again now, but no 37's going there, all silly 66's I think, for all I know, they are probably more powerful than the 37.
Alll the one's to Cwmbargoed DP are liveried in EWS. UNstriking red and yellow stripes.

http://www.freefoto.com/images/23/65/23_65_13---EWS-Class-66_web.jpg
Title: Re: Welder needed for locomotive restoration
Post by: Seth on 10 March 2010, 12:10:46
This area was awash with 37s on the coal traffic.

And until a few years back, we had a few stabled at Rhymney hauling 4-coach rakes on peak-hour workings. I even had two top'n'tailed 37s on the Treherbert line once, due to a Pacer/Sprinter shortage - pain in the neck though on intensive Valleys services.

Bit of a '47' bloke meself though :y
Title: Re: Welder needed for locomotive restoration
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 10 March 2010, 12:24:37
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This area was awash with 37s on the coal traffic.

And until a few years back, we had a few stabled at Rhymney hauling 4-coach rakes on peak-hour workings. I even had two top'n'tailed 37s on the Treherbert line once, due to a Pacer/Sprinter shortage - pain in the neck though on intensive Valleys services.

Bit of a '47' bloke meself though :y

Me to.....

Yes, the valleys had plenty of 37's!
Title: Re: Welder needed for locomotive restoration
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 10 March 2010, 12:35:54
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I wanna be part of that.
I am in love with the 37, better than any bloke.
Cwmbargoed DP is open again now, but no 37's going there, all silly 66's I think, for all I know, they are probably more powerful than the 37.Alll the one's to Cwmbargoed DP are liveried in EWS. UNstriking red and yellow stripes.

http://www.freefoto.com/images/23/65/23_65_13---EWS-Class-66_web.jpg

Hell yes!

Much more....3000+bhp....

As a power guide...

D2000-D2999 Shunters Under 300 hp
D3000-D4999 Shunters 300 to 799 hp (e.g. 08 shunter)
D8000-D8999 Type 1 800 to 1000 hp (e.g class 15)
D5000-D6499 Type 2 1001 to 1499 hp (e.g class 20 and 25)
D6500-D7999 Type 3 1500 to 1999 hp (e.g. class 37 and 31)
D1-D1999 Type 4 2000 to 2999 hp (e.g. class 47 or 43 otherwise known as a HST 125)
D9000-D9999 Type 5 Over 3000 hp (e.g.52 aka Western or 55 aka deltic...note that both of these requried 2 engines to get that level of bhp....)

Be a little careful with the above groupings as there are some exception e.g. a class 50 only has the power of a type 4.....

A class 37 is around 1750bhp......a 66 is 3300bhp....and more efficient at getting this to the rail.....but they sound naff as they have good silencers and weird compressors (directly engine driven)....zing, zing, zing....

So deltics and westerns being type 5's were super powerful (although lacked reliability at times!)
Title: Re: Welder needed for locomotive restoration
Post by: Seth on 10 March 2010, 14:49:05
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I wanna be part of that.
I am in love with the 37, better than any bloke.
Cwmbargoed DP is open again now, but no 37's going there, all silly 66's I think, for all I know, they are probably more powerful than the 37.Alll the one's to Cwmbargoed DP are liveried in EWS. UNstriking red and yellow stripes.

http://www.freefoto.com/images/23/65/23_65_13---EWS-Class-66_web.jpg

Hell yes!

Much more....3000+bhp....

As a power guide...

D2000-D2999 Shunters Under 300 hp
D3000-D4999 Shunters 300 to 799 hp (e.g. 08 shunter)
D8000-D8999 Type 1 800 to 1000 hp (e.g class 15)
D5000-D6499 Type 2 1001 to 1499 hp (e.g class 20 and 25)
D6500-D7999 Type 3 1500 to 1999 hp (e.g. class 37 and 31)
D1-D1999 Type 4 2000 to 2999 hp (e.g. class 47 or 43 otherwise known as a HST 125)
D9000-D9999 Type 5 Over 3000 hp (e.g.52 aka Western or 55 aka deltic...note that both of these requried 2 engines to get that level of bhp....)

Be a little careful with the above groupings as there are some exception e.g. a class 50 only has the power of a type 4.....

A class 37 is around 1750bhp......a 66 is 3300bhp....and more efficient at getting this to the rail.....but they sound naff as they have good silencers and weird compressors (directly engine driven)....zing, zing, zing....

So deltics and westerns being type 5's were super powerful (although lacked reliability at times!)
Often wondered what that noise was Mark :y
Title: Re: Welder needed for locomotive restoration
Post by: Seth on 10 March 2010, 14:54:17
There's also some FGW loco haulage on certain Taunton-Cardiff diagrams at the mo.
Have recently seen Class 60s rostered on them. :y
Title: Re: Welder needed for locomotive restoration
Post by: Martin_1962 on 10 March 2010, 17:03:04
Western - Class 52 are 2700bhp therefore a type 4

Class 50 - 2700 bhp but are rated to full power at higher speeds compared to any other type 4,  a couple were rerated to type 5 for a while 3150bhp or 3200bhp AFAIR

Deltics - excellent machines and the best type 5 in the country

Class 60 - these are British and can out pull the GM Class 66s

My favourites are 50 and Deltic, 37s are underpowered and I prefer a V16 to a V12, but 37s do clag well and they are very reliable.

47s are OK but are popular for people from the west midlands.

Best type 4s were the 3 prototypes DP2, Falcon and possibly Lion.

DP2 was in revenue service working with Deltics and I think if it wasn't for its accident would have been purchased.

It was the prototype for the 50s

Falcon, D1200, the only 53 was 31 style bogies with twin Maybach engines, uprated from the Western and electric transmission. Ended up owned by BR.

Lion was scrapped quite early and was basically the BRCW version on a 47 in stying and power unit.

Weirdest type 4 was a class 30 when rated at 2000bhp
Title: Re: Welder needed for locomotive restoration
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 10 March 2010, 17:39:19
As you know I am a steam girl, but I will always be upset that these two prototype locos could not be saved:

(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/lizziefreeman/a.jpg)

No's 10000 & 10202 at Derby works 1963. 10000 was built for the LMS in 1947/48. 10202 built for the Souther Region of BR in 1950/51.  Withdrawn 1963, scrapped 1968 :'( :'(
Title: Re: Welder needed for locomotive restoration
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 10 March 2010, 17:43:50
...............but back to needing a welder Mark...........how about one  for these steam engine parts at Cashmores, Newport, in 1968?

(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/lizziefreeman/CashmoresScrap.jpg)

 :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Welder needed for locomotive restoration
Post by: Martin_1962 on 10 March 2010, 17:54:40
Oh for a lot of money

Recent releases from the model makers

Falcon
City of Truro
A decent Castle - need 5080 7029
Class 17
Class 15
Class 14 need 3

9 locos aghhhhh!!!!!!

No money aghhhhhhh!!!!!

And I have seen COT and 5080 double heading :y :y
Title: Re: Welder needed for locomotive restoration
Post by: alunonhisown on 10 March 2010, 18:15:30
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...............but back to needing a welder Mark...........how about one  for these steam engine parts at Cashmores, Newport, in 1968?

(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/lizziefreeman/CashmoresScrap.jpg)

 :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

When I was a very small girl, aged about 5-6 my grandparents ran a workingmens club in Barry, and I used to walk past the scrapyard everyday in the holidays and see all the trains waiting for the cutters torch. :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Welder needed for locomotive restoration
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 10 March 2010, 18:24:45
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...............but back to needing a welder Mark...........how about one  for these steam engine parts at Cashmores, Newport, in 1968?

(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/lizziefreeman/CashmoresScrap.jpg)

 :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

When I was a very small girl, aged about 5-6 my grandparents ran a workingmens club in Barry, and I used to walk past the scrapyard everyday in the holidays and see all the trains waiting for the cutters torch. :'( :'( :'( :'(


My ex and I visited as well on a number of occasions.  We often viewed certain loco's that our societies / Mid-Hants Railway, who we were members of, planned to purchase.  Very interesting days 8-) 8-) 8-)

The pleasing end to that story is that over 213 loco's in Dia Wooham's were saved and the preservation societies and railways have put over 60% (last I heard) back into operation :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Welder needed for locomotive restoration
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 10 March 2010, 18:54:43
For Diane:

This is Deltics in action!  I dare you to turn your volume controls to max and listen to that pulsating, sexy, masculine power:

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYATxiDscZ4[/media]

Enjoy :-* :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Welder needed for locomotive restoration
Post by: alunonhisown on 10 March 2010, 19:13:07
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For Diane:

This is Deltics in action!  I dare you to turn your volume controls to max and listen to that pulsating, sexy, masculine power:

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYATxiDscZ4[/media]

Enjoy :-* :-* :-* :-*

I am Overcome, How can anyone not like that?
Enough to give me an or&&&m.
Just love it, I am off to the York Museum website for more pleasures. ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Welder needed for locomotive restoration
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 10 March 2010, 19:26:38
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For Diane:

This is Deltics in action!  I dare you to turn your volume controls to max and listen to that pulsating, sexy, masculine power:

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYATxiDscZ4[/media]

Enjoy :-* :-* :-* :-*

I am Overcome, How can anyone not like that?
Enough to give me an or&&&m.
Just love it, I am off to the York Museum website for more pleasures. ;) ;) ;)

Yep Diane, and that is what Deltic 55015 Tulyar did (twice!!)to me on a wet November day in 1981, standing on Eastleigh Station platform in the pouring rain as first it powered a train load of enthusiasts on a "farewell to the Deltic Special" through on the fast down track at 85-90 mph with horn blaring!! :-* :-*

It was the first occasion a Deltic had been on BR Southern Region metals, and it returned later in the day to stop in the station and reverse into Eastleigh MPD.  What a day that was!  Wet, cold, but thrilled at that sound!  :-* :-* :-*


EDIT  ---- LIKE THIS: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzgmuI4tGhs[/media]

 :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Welder needed for locomotive restoration
Post by: mudflap on 10 March 2010, 19:45:53
You two girls should start a Locomotive thread, though i like the old steamers myself  wheeeeeeeee!  8-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gV1MuY_kS7I&feature=related

and get a load of this pulsating masculine power  ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ConIWiz2gE&feature=related

Title: Re: Welder needed for locomotive restoration
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 10 March 2010, 19:50:27
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You two girls should start a Locomotive thread, though i like the old steamers myself  wheeeeeeeee!  8-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gV1MuY_kS7I&feature=related



 :y :y :y :-* :-*

I think the car die hards on this car forum may have something to say on that!! :o :o

 They just about tolerate us now ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

What I do though is just slip in the mention of 'pistons; and 'cylinders', along with wheels and they do not always notice I'm on about steam railway engines!! ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Welder needed for locomotive restoration
Post by: mudflap on 10 March 2010, 19:59:44
My favourite Line, ridden on this many times  :)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttlGvzlHkA0&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLLrEIgg1zE&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDhaR6XDU9w&feature=fvw
Title: Re: Welder needed for locomotive restoration
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 10 March 2010, 20:08:14
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My favourite Line, ridden on this many times  :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLLrEIgg1zE&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDhaR6XDU9w&feature=fvw
[/highlight]

A great line there Mudflap!! :-* :-* :y :y

I was lucky enough to first travel on that section of line in 1960, travelling on the Torbay Express from Paddington, pulled by a Castle class locomotive.  Next time it was a Grange class that pulled us into Kingswear.

The last time I went on the Torbay Express from Kingswear to Paddington in 1962 it was by then pulled by Warship class deisel locomotive Strongbow  8-) 8-) 8-)

In between the Expresses I travelled locally, with mum, behind 0-6-0 pannier tanks and rail cars on that line.

Happy memories!!  :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Welder needed for locomotive restoration
Post by: Martin_1962 on 10 March 2010, 21:22:32
For mudflap
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84u8gFzuqM8

For Mark DTM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-mX_XwDAV4

For Diane & Lizzy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdVtyEQKDrI

For Brush fans
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Gs6WHzG0nA

For GWR fans
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1C26awdkHD0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaIBW6dMJVk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xHMG_yyD_4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ctm-Dzv46Cc

For aircraft fans

Shackleton
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1v8HmJ5CII

Sea Fury
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QP19fIbcSws

A stationary jet fighter in the air
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aCSceQEDS4
Title: Re: Welder needed for locomotive restoration
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 10 March 2010, 21:30:01
That 37 has a governor fault!

Diane, get yourself to a diesel gala at say the East Lancs.....deltics, 37's 50's 47's etc etc etc.....
Title: Re: Welder needed for locomotive restoration
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 10 March 2010, 21:38:16
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For mudflap
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84u8gFzuqM8

For Mark DTM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-mX_XwDAV4

For Diane & Lizzy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdVtyEQKDrI


For Brush fans
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Gs6WHzG0nA

For GWR fans
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1C26awdkHD0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaIBW6dMJVk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xHMG_yyD_4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ctm-Dzv46Cc

For aircraft fans

Shackleton
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1v8HmJ5CII

Sea Fury
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QP19fIbcSws

A stationary jet fighter in the air
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aCSceQEDS4

Thanks Entwood!! :-* :-* :y
Title: Re: Welder needed for locomotive restoration
Post by: alunonhisown on 10 March 2010, 21:41:05
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For mudflap
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84u8gFzuqM8

For Mark DTM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-mX_XwDAV4

For Diane & Lizzy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdVtyEQKDrI


For Brush fans
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Gs6WHzG0nA

For GWR fans
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1C26awdkHD0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaIBW6dMJVk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xHMG_yyD_4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ctm-Dzv46Cc

For aircraft fans

Shackleton
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1v8HmJ5CII

Sea Fury
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QP19fIbcSws

A stationary jet fighter in the air
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aCSceQEDS4

Thanks Entwood!! :-* :-* :y

Loved it, coming around that corner was truly breathtaking!! :y :y :y
Title: Re: Welder needed for locomotive restoration
Post by: Entwood on 10 March 2010, 21:44:54
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For mudflap
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84u8gFzuqM8

For Mark DTM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-mX_XwDAV4

For Diane & Lizzy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdVtyEQKDrI


For Brush fans
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Gs6WHzG0nA

For GWR fans
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1C26awdkHD0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaIBW6dMJVk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xHMG_yyD_4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ctm-Dzv46Cc

For aircraft fans

Shackleton
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1v8HmJ5CII

Sea Fury
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QP19fIbcSws

A stationary jet fighter in the air
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aCSceQEDS4

Thanks Entwood!! :-* :-* :y


What did I do now ????   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Welder needed for locomotive restoration
Post by: alunonhisown on 10 March 2010, 21:47:18
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That 37 has a governor fault!

Diane, get yourself to a diesel gala at say the East Lancs.....deltics, 37's 50's 47's etc etc etc.....

What 37?
Taff Merthyr, how could you know? It is or was in Spain last I heard.
Title: Re: Welder needed for locomotive restoration
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 10 March 2010, 21:50:09
Nowt fer me then Martin.... ::) ::)
Title: Re: Welder needed for locomotive restoration
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 10 March 2010, 21:55:36
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That 37 has a governor fault!

Diane, get yourself to a diesel gala at say the East Lancs.....deltics, 37's 50's 47's etc etc etc.....

What 37?
Taff Merthyr, how could you know? It is or was in Spain last I heard.

Thye have a few different 37's at east lancs....a good range of locos.

•Class 37 no. 37109
•Class 37 no. 37418

Full list of locos here:

http://www.burydiesel.freeserve.co.uk/fleet.htm
Title: Re: Welder needed for locomotive restoration
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 10 March 2010, 22:07:37
Anyone know how I can restore this engine and fit it into the miggy?

(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/lizziefreeman/PowerUnitCFBoothRotherham010308IF.jpg)

This is for sale: "CF Booth, Rotherham: Class 37 & Class 56 Power Units and / or Engine Spares

CF Booth, Rotherham have several Class 37 and several Class 56 power units available for purchase whole or broken apart for internal components.

Contact: James Hawley on 0777 580 5124"

 :D :D :D :D ;) ;)
Title: Re: Welder needed for locomotive restoration
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 10 March 2010, 22:11:50
I know where there are a few EE engines.....known good ones and not nearly in the state that thing is!

Plus a few big Sulzers and a small one to.
Title: Re: Welder needed for locomotive restoration
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 10 March 2010, 22:12:26
I am gonna be really sad now to.....thats a later alternator based engine
Title: Re: Welder needed for locomotive restoration
Post by: alunonhisown on 10 March 2010, 22:13:49
What has happened to all the slam door carriages?
Gone to the great railway in the sky no doubt.
Title: Re: Welder needed for locomotive restoration
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 10 March 2010, 22:14:32
A few on preserved railways.....I am welding one up at the moment.
Title: Re: Welder needed for locomotive restoration
Post by: Seth on 10 March 2010, 22:21:14
We've still got a Class 121 'bubble car' which operates on the Cardiff Queen Street to Cardiff Bay shuttles. (When it's actually 'in service' that is).

A right pain to work, with a useless heating system too.

Saying that, I do enjoy the sound of that Leyland 0.680 with SCG gearbox!
 :y
Title: Re: Welder needed for locomotive restoration
Post by: alunonhisown on 10 March 2010, 22:25:14
http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.penmorfa.com/Archive/mu975023-chester-140693.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.penmorfa.com/Archive/fifteen.HTM&usg=__rYFKiMfgqIQNk4KkUNPnGCDTMDc=&h=348&w=550&sz=51&hl=en&start=8&itbs=1&tbnid=yBkicCnDKfXrXM:&tbnh=84&tbnw=133&prev=/images%3Fq%3DClass%2B121%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DG%26gbv%3D2%26tbs%3Disch:1
Must be one of these?
Title: Re: Welder needed for locomotive restoration
Post by: Seth on 10 March 2010, 22:42:05
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http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.penmorfa.com/Archive/mu975023-chester-140693.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.penmorfa.com/Archive/fifteen.HTM&usg=__rYFKiMfgqIQNk4KkUNPnGCDTMDc=&h=348&w=550&sz=51&hl=en&start=8&itbs=1&tbnid=yBkicCnDKfXrXM:&tbnh=84&tbnw=133&prev=/images%3Fq%3DClass%2B121%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DG%26gbv%3D2%26tbs%3Disch:1
Must be one of these?

That's correct! :y
Title: Re: Welder needed for locomotive restoration
Post by: Martin_1962 on 10 March 2010, 22:58:00
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That 37 has a governor fault!

Diane, get yourself to a diesel gala at say the East Lancs.....deltics, 37's 50's 47's etc etc etc.....

What 37?
Taff Merthyr, how could you know? It is or was in Spain last I heard.

Thye have a few different 37's at east lancs....a good range of locos.

•Class 37 no. 37109
•Class 37 no. 37418

Full list of locos here:

http://www.burydiesel.freeserve.co.uk/fleet.htm


My video was on SVR
Title: Re: Welder needed for locomotive restoration
Post by: hoofing it on 11 March 2010, 09:34:35
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This area was awash with 37s on the coal traffic.

And until a few years back, we had a few stabled at Rhymney hauling 4-coach rakes on peak-hour workings. I even had two top'n'tailed 37s on the Treherbert line once, due to a Pacer/Sprinter shortage - pain in the neck though on intensive Valleys services.

Bit of a '47' bloke meself though :y

Me to.....

Yes, the valleys had plenty of 37's!
you should go to Inverness there's somtimes a double header 47's sleeper thats leaves at 20:30 every night and its some thrash up the hill notch X required  ;) :y
some real sulzer thrash none of that english electric all noise no action crap ;D ;D
Title: Re: Welder needed for locomotive restoration
Post by: mudflap on 11 March 2010, 09:35:46
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For mudflap
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84u8gFzuqM8

For Mark DTM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-mX_XwDAV4

For Diane & Lizzy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdVtyEQKDrI

For Brush fans
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Gs6WHzG0nA

For GWR fans
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1C26awdkHD0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaIBW6dMJVk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xHMG_yyD_4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ctm-Dzv46Cc

For aircraft fans

Shackleton
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1v8HmJ5CII

Sea Fury
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QP19fIbcSws

A stationary jet fighter in the air
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aCSceQEDS4

amazing stuff  8-)  maybe an Aeroplane thread too?  :)

Some years ago i saw a Spitfire fly over my College in Harrow, they were flying a demonstration from Stanmore HQ, quite an experience hearing and seeing one!  8-)


Title: Re: Welder needed for locomotive restoration
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 11 March 2010, 09:36:10
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This area was awash with 37s on the coal traffic.

And until a few years back, we had a few stabled at Rhymney hauling 4-coach rakes on peak-hour workings. I even had two top'n'tailed 37s on the Treherbert line once, due to a Pacer/Sprinter shortage - pain in the neck though on intensive Valleys services.

Bit of a '47' bloke meself though :y

Me to.....

Yes, the valleys had plenty of 37's!
you should go to Inverness there's somtimes a double header 47's sleeper thats leaves at 20:30 every night and its some thrash up the hill notch X required  ;) :y
some real sulzer thrash none of that english electric all noise no action crap ;D ;D

Thats what we like to hear.....2600bhp of Sulzer 12 cylinder 12LDA28-C....
Title: Re: Welder needed for locomotive restoration
Post by: hoofing it on 11 March 2010, 09:39:40
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This area was awash with 37s on the coal traffic.

And until a few years back, we had a few stabled at Rhymney hauling 4-coach rakes on peak-hour workings. I even had two top'n'tailed 37s on the Treherbert line once, due to a Pacer/Sprinter shortage - pain in the neck though on intensive Valleys services.

Bit of a '47' bloke meself though :y

Me to.....

Yes, the valleys had plenty of 37's!
you should go to Inverness there's somtimes a double header 47's sleeper thats leaves at 20:30 every night and its some thrash up the hill notch X required  ;) :y
some real sulzer thrash none of that english electric all noise no action crap ;D ;D

Thats what we like to hear.....2600bhp of Sulzer 12 cylinder 12LDA28-C....
god am gettin excited at the thought of it  ;D ;D ;D
sad or what ;D ;D ;D
I see youve managed to bring all us train buffs out of the closet ;D ;D :y
Title: Re: Welder needed for locomotive restoration
Post by: alunonhisown on 11 March 2010, 09:47:03
I am just sorry I cannot get the same feeling for steam as I can get from a Class 37. Before my time, I suppose.
I did once see a Stanier Black 5 in Merthyr Station about 8 years ago, I was well impressed with that, and there were about 1000 people there to see it, just amazing.
Title: Re: Welder needed for locomotive restoration
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 11 March 2010, 10:21:49
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This area was awash with 37s on the coal traffic.

And until a few years back, we had a few stabled at Rhymney hauling 4-coach rakes on peak-hour workings. I even had two top'n'tailed 37s on the Treherbert line once, due to a Pacer/Sprinter shortage - pain in the neck though on intensive Valleys services.

Bit of a '47' bloke meself though :y

Me to.....

Yes, the valleys had plenty of 37's!
you should go to Inverness there's somtimes a double header 47's sleeper thats leaves at 20:30 every night and its some thrash up the hill notch X required  ;) :y
some real sulzer thrash none of that english electric all noise no action crap ;D ;D

Thats what we like to hear.....2600bhp of Sulzer 12 cylinder 12LDA28-C....
god am gettin excited at the thought of it  ;D ;D ;D
sad or what ;D ;D ;D
I see youve managed to bring all us train buffs out of the closet ;D ;D :y

A unit I get very close to regularly.....and will have to de-winterise it at easter I suppose as well as fix the annual coolant leaks
Title: Re: Welder needed for locomotive restoration
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 11 March 2010, 10:25:00
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I am just sorry I cannot get the same feeling for steam as I can get from a Class 37. Before my time, I suppose.
I did once see a Stanier Black 5 in Merthyr Station about 8 years ago, I was well impressed with that, and there were about 1000 people there to see it, just amazing.


I just love engineering, although, to me, diesel are much more technicaly interesting.

Beware though.....preserved diesels do not have an infinite life, they wil only last so long and unlike steam you cant easily make the bits to fix them.

So make the most of them whilst you can.
Title: Re: Welder needed for locomotive restoration
Post by: Andy B on 11 March 2010, 10:36:59
Staying on a steam theme ....... The Flying Scotsman should be making another appearance up here.
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/s/1197639_full_steam_ahead_for_flying_scotsman_on_elr
We can (just about) see the ELR line from out house
Title: Re: Welder needed for locomotive restoration
Post by: alunonhisown on 11 March 2010, 10:41:08
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Staying on a steam theme ....... The Flying Scotsman should be making another appearance up here.
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/s/1197639_full_steam_ahead_for_flying_scotsman_on_elr
We can (just about) see the ELR line from out house
Now, that is something I must go see.
In fact, is the Railway Museum at York still open? Or re-opened? as last time I looked it was closed for some refurb or summat
May take a sat trip there.
Title: Re: Welder needed for locomotive restoration
Post by: Seth on 11 March 2010, 10:54:30
Wanna see some diesels in action?

As part of the 'GWR 175' celebrations, the West Somerset Railway is staging it's 'Diesels in the West' event on Friday to Sunday 11-13 June.

Might take the caravan down to Blue Anchor for this .... :y
Title: Re: Welder needed for locomotive restoration
Post by: cmeonthemove on 11 March 2010, 11:10:41
Those that are interested in steamers, I got this last night on a Rail Gen email:

This is happening on Saturday 13/3.

Steam Machine 70013 and a few coaches

1Z43 08:23

Liverpool St

Stratford 08:40

Tottenham Hale 09:15

Broxbourne 09:23

B/Stortford 09:58

Audrey End 10:17

Cambridge 10:38

Ely Nth Jun

Whittlesea 11:50

P/Borough 12:05

Grantham 12:39 - 12:55

Newark N Gate 13:10

Boultham J 13:32

Lincoln 13:36

Barnetby 14:26

Grimsby T 14:57

Cleethorpes 15:15

1Z44 16:10

Cleethorpes with 47 hauling

Ulceby 16:34 Kettle hauling

Barnetby 16:44

Brigg 16:51

Gainsborough T 17:31

Worksop 18:00 - Loco change 18:21 47 Hauled

Claypole loop 18:53

Grantham 19:02 - 19:14

P/Borough 20:02

Whittlesea 20:17

MR 20:27

Ely 20:48 - 20:58

Cambs 21:18

Audrey Bend 21:23

B/Stortford 21:46 - 21:48

Broxbourne 22:10

Tottenham H 22:21

SF 22:37

B/Green 22:45

Liv St 22:48


Personally I'm a 37 fan myself, nothing beats a Growler for thrashability, and their cold-starts are something else. Also have a soft spot for the Tug 60s.
Title: Re: Welder needed for locomotive restoration
Post by: alunonhisown on 11 March 2010, 11:30:38
I am off to Swansea to see a certain Steam train bought from Woodhams, see if it still there. Will let you know more later
Title: Re: Welder needed for locomotive restoration
Post by: Sixstring on 11 March 2010, 11:46:36
Blimey!! takes me back to my Train Spotter childhood.......
Wessies, Brush 4s, 37s, 60s, didn't think anybody else would be interested!
Title: Re: Welder needed for locomotive restoration
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 11 March 2010, 13:14:45
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What has happened to all the slam door carriages?
Gone to the great railway in the sky no doubt.

Up until November of last year at least Bombardier of Chart Leacon, down here in Ashford, had a full unit set of slam door carriages sitting in their yard 8-) 8-).  May still be there for all I know! ;) ;)
Title: Re: Welder needed for locomotive restoration
Post by: Seth on 11 March 2010, 15:20:20
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I am off to Swansea to see a certain Steam train bought from Woodhams, see if it still there. Will let you know more later
If it's on the erstwhile Swansea Vale Railway, I could have saved you the trip.

That line has closed down due to imminent redevelopment of the area.
I'm told that (at least) some of the rolling stock has gone west to the fledgling Gwendraeth Valley line near Llanelli.
Title: Re: Welder needed for locomotive restoration
Post by: hoofing it on 11 March 2010, 17:11:59
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We've still got a Class 121 'bubble car' which operates on the Cardiff Queen Street to Cardiff Bay shuttles. (When it's actually 'in service' that is).

A right pain to work, with a useless heating system too.

Saying that, I do enjoy the sound of that Leyland 0.680 with SCG gearbox!
 :y
I miss the sound of a good ear spliting rasping 101 bone shaker :y
Title: Re: Welder needed for locomotive restoration
Post by: Martin_1962 on 11 March 2010, 20:34:51
DMUs

Hmm

1 Triang 101 3 car as B811 i
1 Lima 117 3 car as B430 ii
1 DC Kits 101 3 car as B82n (Still making it) iii
1 DC Kits 128 iv
1 Dapol railbus v
1 Hornby 110 3 car vi

i) Detailed
ii) DMS conversion also choc cream
iii) DMCL TBSL DMCL
iv) Needs a motor bogie
v) one axle motored
vi) as purchased
Title: Re: Welder needed for locomotive restoration
Post by: cmeonthemove on 11 March 2010, 20:50:39
I guess now must be the time to show my super-detailed Deltic...

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2751/4316410921_341fb53f32.jpg)
Title: Re: Welder needed for locomotive restoration
Post by: Lazydocker on 11 March 2010, 20:52:35
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I guess now must be the time to show my super-detailed Deltic...

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2751/4316410921_341fb53f32.jpg)

That looks like a fantastically detailed train set.... Can I come and play? ;D ;D
Title: Re: Welder needed for locomotive restoration
Post by: Seth on 11 March 2010, 20:52:50
That's just superb mate :y
Title: Re: Welder needed for locomotive restoration
Post by: Martin_1962 on 11 March 2010, 20:54:47
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I guess now must be the time to show my super-detailed Deltic...

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2751/4316410921_341fb53f32.jpg)


Nice model railway :y :y
Title: Re: Welder needed for locomotive restoration
Post by: Martin_1962 on 11 March 2010, 20:56:29
My maddest conversion

Stretching the bogies on a Lima 50 to the correct length.

Used some brass plate, some gears from a spares box and some white metal EE bogie frames.

Still runs like crap

Tempted to see what aftermarket chassis there are.
Title: Re: Welder needed for locomotive restoration
Post by: cmeonthemove on 11 March 2010, 21:04:38
It's not a railway layout, but a diorama I made over the winter for truck model shows, in particular the model show  that takes places each year at the Gaydon Heritage Motor Museum to coincide with the Classic & Vintage Commercial Show.

This is the full diorama.

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4039/4355900370_202c5b1ab2_o.jpg)

I would love to have a railway layout but our house just simply isn't big enough. Definitely something for the future though.

These are some other locos I did. All of these were later sold on.

37425 Pride of the Valleys - as run by EWS
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4031/4425758710_29af44801a.jpg)

57011 in DRS colours. Formerly a Lima 47 with Class 57 detailing
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2789/4424993327_dea656e668.jpg)

A Lima Tug with some weathering applied - a big mistake selling this looking back  :(
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4030/4424993197_129c145b89.jpg)

31130 Calder Hall as currently run in preservation on the East Lancs Railway IIRC
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2791/4425758304_99390bcc0c.jpg)
Title: Re: Welder needed for locomotive restoration
Post by: Martin_1962 on 11 March 2010, 21:06:37
Try the loft, or the garden
Title: Re: Welder needed for locomotive restoration
Post by: alunonhisown on 11 March 2010, 21:09:21
I wanna play with that, PLEASE
You show me yours and I'll show you mine ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Welder needed for locomotive restoration
Post by: cmeonthemove on 11 March 2010, 21:14:45
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Try the loft, or the garden

Can't use the loft as it's full of water tank and pipework - might be able to get a small n-gauge layout up there but deffo not an 00-gauge! Might consider the garden though - it needs a revamp anyway. Good thinking. :y
Title: Re: Welder needed for locomotive restoration
Post by: cmeonthemove on 11 March 2010, 21:15:22
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I wanna play with that, PLEASE
You show me yours and I'll show you mine ;D ;D ;D ;D

You've seen mine - now lets see yours  ;D ;D ;)
Title: Re: Welder needed for locomotive restoration
Post by: Seth on 11 March 2010, 21:23:34
I'd love to build an N-gauge layout in the attic.

Used to enjoy looking through Graham Farish and Lima catalogues. So, might just be a project for retirement .............
 ;)
Title: Re: Welder needed for locomotive restoration
Post by: Martin_1962 on 11 March 2010, 22:04:25
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I'd love to build an N-gauge layout in the attic.

Used to enjoy looking through Graham Farish and Lima catalogues. So, might just be a project for retirement .............
 ;)


Bachmann now own GF, Lima no more, but Dapol are doing well in N and Peco are bringing out the odd loco as well as their wagons
Title: Re: Welder needed for locomotive restoration
Post by: alunonhisown on 11 March 2010, 22:19:30
Right Folks.

Here is a link to a Steam Shunter my late brother David Proudley and about 9 close friends bought from Dai Woodhams in the 70's. It was shipped from Woodhams to Penderyn Quarry in Hirwaun and restoration started but sadly, interest dwindled and they eventually donated it unfinished to a museum in Swansea. I went there today looking for it but was not there. So made a few phone calls and was told it is on the Gwili Railway, so I called them and they said no we do not have it but they THINK it is on the Teifi Railway, but I thought that cannot be right as the Teifi is Narrow Gauge, so I did some internet searching and after a few hours I found the picture below, the Shunter is all finished. It is after all on the Gwili Railway, well it was according to this picture in 1995. So I will call them tomorrow or Saturday as I am off to the NRM in York for the day tomorrow.Here is the link..........


http://philtpics.fotopic.net/p56608192.html
Swansea Vale No 1
I tried to print the picture but it seems locked. Any ideas how I can print this picture will be greatly received
D.
Title: Re: Welder needed for locomotive restoration
Post by: Seth on 11 March 2010, 22:24:25
Blimey missus!
The photo was taken by a bloke who was (and still is) on the buses when I was there. Small world eh ...

Any room on this foray to York tomorrow! :y
Title: Re: Welder needed for locomotive restoration
Post by: CaptainZok on 11 March 2010, 22:26:50
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Right Folks.

Here is a link to a Steam Shunter my late brother David Proudley and about 9 close friends bought from Dai Woodhams in the 70's. It was shipped from Woodhams to Penderyn Quarry in Hirwaun and restoration started but sadly, interest dwindled and they eventually donated it unfinished to a museum in Swansea. I went there today looking for it but was not there. So made a few phone calls and was told it is on the Gwili Railway, so I called them and they said no we do not have it but they THINK it is on the Teifi Railway, but I thought that cannot be right as the Teifi is Narrow Gauge, so I did some internet searching and after a few hours I found the picture below, the Shunter is all finished. It is after all on the Gwili Railway, well it was according to this picture in 1995. So I will call them tomorrow or Saturday as I am off to the NRM in York for the day tomorrow.Here is the link..........


http://philtpics.fotopic.net/p56608192.html
Swansea Vale No 1
I tried to print the picture but it seems locked. Any ideas how I can print this picture will be greatly received
D.
Drag the picture onto your desktop and go from there. :y
Title: Re: Welder needed for locomotive restoration
Post by: alunonhisown on 11 March 2010, 22:35:19
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Right Folks.

Here is a link to a Steam Shunter my late brother David Proudley and about 9 close friends bought from Dai Woodhams in the 70's. It was shipped from Woodhams to Penderyn Quarry in Hirwaun and restoration started but sadly, interest dwindled and they eventually donated it unfinished to a museum in Swansea. I went there today looking for it but was not there. So made a few phone calls and was told it is on the Gwili Railway, so I called them and they said no we do not have it but they THINK it is on the Teifi Railway, but I thought that cannot be right as the Teifi is Narrow Gauge, so I did some internet searching and after a few hours I found the picture below, the Shunter is all finished. It is after all on the Gwili Railway, well it was according to this picture in 1995. So I will call them tomorrow or Saturday as I am off to the NRM in York for the day tomorrow.Here is the link..........


http://philtpics.fotopic.net/p56608192.html
Swansea Vale No 1
I tried to print the picture but it seems locked. Any ideas how I can print this picture will be greatly received
D.
Drag the picture onto your desktop and go from there. :y
Cheers!!! Worked Perfect, well sort of, It printed but the bloody printer ran out of colour ink half way through. I must be unluckiest person I ever met.
Oh Well, off to Tesco for some Lexmark 24, I think. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Welder needed for locomotive restoration
Post by: bertiecbx550 on 11 March 2010, 23:30:30
Its funny that you guys and gals are talking about loco`s and stuff i`ve been trying recently to find old pics of bushbury sheds just to see if i could find my dad or my uncle tom in any of em...It would really make my year to discover sumat like that.....I lost all the pics when mum and dad passed way last year,but at least i made sure i got the trains he collected over the last few years.... :)
Title: Re: Welder needed for locomotive restoration
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 12 March 2010, 08:26:09
We will be having our spring diesel gala on May 15th and 16th to include:

"Rail Ale" and an intensive timetable, showcasing our superb collection of classic Diesels, along with some special visiting locomotives too.

We have one of the best collections of Heritage Diesels in the East Midlands, with most of the locomotives types that were once common throughout the area. If you remember summer trips to "Skeggy", the Cornish Riviera or forays to London, locomotives in our fleet will bring back the memories. Or maybe you remember the vast numbers of coal trains moving locally mined coal from pit to Power Station - we have representative locos from those trains too.

Our Diesel events have proved to be some of the most popular on our calendar. We always have an enviable range of Real-Ales on-train, which can be enjoyed with snacks and light meals.

In 2010 we will debut new arrival "Peak" 46010, and anticipate special visiting locomotives too. Topped-off with an excellent selection of real ales from our on-train catering services, and a diesel-only theme on our small-scale railways, this event will be a "not to be missed" gala.

Reserve the dates in your diary for what promises to be a cracking weekend!

This event runs with a special, intensive timetable.

Resident operational diesels are:

Class 56, 56097
Class 47, 47765
Class 47, 47292
Class 25, D7629 (25279)
Class 20, D8007
Class 20, D8154
Class 73, 73110
Class 46, 46010
08220
08114


And I will be working on both days on 47292 plus other lesser tasks......and will most probably be driving at some point to!

And Di, enjoy the NRM, its a great day out (free entry but the parking is charged)
Title: Re: Welder needed for locomotive restoration
Post by: Seth on 12 March 2010, 08:46:14
Is this event at Ruddington Mark?
Title: Re: Welder needed for locomotive restoration
Post by: The Red Baron on 12 March 2010, 08:54:14
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Is this event at Ruddington Mark?
was wondering that myself :P
Title: Re: Welder needed for locomotive restoration
Post by: Seth on 12 March 2010, 09:00:50
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Is this event at Ruddington Mark?
was wondering that myself :P

Just checked - it is indeed GCRN Ruddington :y
Title: Re: Welder needed for locomotive restoration
Post by: hoofing it on 12 March 2010, 09:50:16
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We will be having our spring diesel gala on May 15th and 16th to include:

"Rail Ale" and an intensive timetable, showcasing our superb collection of classic Diesels, along with some special visiting locomotives too.

We have one of the best collections of Heritage Diesels in the East Midlands, with most of the locomotives types that were once common throughout the area. If you remember summer trips to "Skeggy", the Cornish Riviera or forays to London, locomotives in our fleet will bring back the memories. Or maybe you remember the vast numbers of coal trains moving locally mined coal from pit to Power Station - we have representative locos from those trains too.

Our Diesel events have proved to be some of the most popular on our calendar. We always have an enviable range of Real-Ales on-train, which can be enjoyed with snacks and light meals.

In 2010 we will debut new arrival "Peak" 46010, and anticipate special visiting locomotives too. Topped-off with an excellent selection of real ales from our on-train catering services, and a diesel-only theme on our small-scale railways, this event will be a "not to be missed" gala.

Reserve the dates in your diary for what promises to be a cracking weekend!

This event runs with a special, intensive timetable.

Resident operational diesels are:

Class 56, 56097
Class 47, 47765
Class 47, 47292
Class 25, D7629 (25279)
Class 20, D8007
Class 20, D8154
Class 73, 73110
Class 46, 46010
08220
08114


And I will be working on both days on 47292 plus other lesser tasks......and will most probably be driving at some point to!

And Di, enjoy the NRM, its a great day out (free entry but the parking is charged)
 
ahh bliss not a tracktor in sight ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Welder needed for locomotive restoration
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 12 March 2010, 10:51:53
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Is this event at Ruddington Mark?

It certainly is....
Title: Re: Welder needed for locomotive restoration
Post by: Seth on 12 March 2010, 11:13:55
Here it is:

http://217.158.157.207/railways/GCRN/index.htm

 :y
Title: Re: Welder needed for locomotive restoration
Post by: Debs. on 12 March 2010, 12:27:49
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....And I will be working on both days on 47292 plus other lesser tasks......and will most probably be driving at some point to!.....

You lucky blighter! :y
Title: Re: Welder needed for locomotive restoration
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 12 March 2010, 12:30:00
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....And I will be working on both days on 47292 plus other lesser tasks......and will most probably be driving at some point to!.....

You lucky blighter! :y


Still training sadly....but have had a go on a class 20, 25, 47 (many times) and an 08.
Title: Re: Welder needed for locomotive restoration
Post by: cmeonthemove on 12 March 2010, 13:30:29
Mark are the videos on the Tube of 56097 yours?
Title: Re: Welder needed for locomotive restoration
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 12 March 2010, 14:53:35
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Mark are the videos on the Tube of 56097 yours?

No, they are Mark Whitcombes, the loco owners.

Quite a monster that thing is....
Title: Re: Welder needed for locomotive restoration
Post by: cmeonthemove on 12 March 2010, 18:45:03
Yes my folks live not far from the MNR where they were doing up Grid 40 Oystermouth before it was moved to the Battlefield line. Quite a beast it was.