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Title: Gordon's Cash for Gold
Post by: Nickbat on 25 March 2010, 10:59:31
Gordon Brown has been ordered to release information before the general election about his controversial decision to sell Britain's gold reserves.

The decision to sell the gold taken by Mr Brown when he was Chancellor is regarded as one of the Treasury's worst financial mistakes and has cost taxpayers almost £7 billion.

The Treasury must publish the information demanded within 35 calendar days by the end of April.


http://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/explain-why-you-sold-britain-s-gold-gordon-brown-told-tele-2a118e333dd2.html?x=0

This could be interesting!  ;) ;D
Title: Re: Gordon's Cash for Gold
Post by: STMO999 on 25 March 2010, 11:12:33
We all know he made a cock-up. Other than making him look bad, I don't see what will be gained from this.
Title: Re: Gordon's Cash for Gold
Post by: Nickbat on 25 March 2010, 11:27:35
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We all know he made a cock-up. Other than making him look bad, I don't see what will be gained from this.

That's enough for me!  ;)
Title: Re: Gordon's Cash for Gold
Post by: Banjax on 25 March 2010, 11:52:27
cool  :y

while we're at it I have a few questions and I've been waiting years for an answer, why:

British Petroleum was privatised in stages in October 1979, September 1983 and November 1987; British Aerospace in January 1981 and 1985; the government share in British Sugar in July 1981; Cable and Wireless in November 1981; Amersham International and National Freight Corporation in February 1982; Britoil in November 1982 and August 1985; Associated British Ports in February 1983; Jaguar in July 1984; British Telecom in November 1984; the National Bus Company in October 1986; British Gas in December 1986; British Airways in February 1987; the Royal Ordnance in April 1987; Rolls-Royce in May 1987; the British Airports Authority in July 1987; the Rover Group in August 1988; British Steel in December 1988; the Regional Water Authorities in November 1989; Girobank in July 1990; and the National Grid in December 1990.


let me know asap  :y
Title: Re: Gordon's Cash for Gold
Post by: Sixstring on 25 March 2010, 11:53:46
Does'nt need much to make him look bad, does it???
Title: Re: Gordon's Cash for Gold
Post by: djac on 25 March 2010, 12:25:23
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cool  :y

while we're at it I have a few questions and I've been waiting years for an answer, why:

British Petroleum was privatised in stages in October 1979, September 1983 and November 1987; British Aerospace in January 1981 and 1985; the government share in British Sugar in July 1981; Cable and Wireless in November 1981; Amersham International and National Freight Corporation in February 1982; Britoil in November 1982 and August 1985; Associated British Ports in February 1983; Jaguar in July 1984; British Telecom in November 1984; the National Bus Company in October 1986; British Gas in December 1986; British Airways in February 1987; the Royal Ordnance in April 1987; Rolls-Royce in May 1987; the British Airports Authority in July 1987; the Rover Group in August 1988; British Steel in December 1988; the Regional Water Authorities in November 1989; Girobank in July 1990; and the National Grid in December 1990.


let me know asap  :y

Then Banjax can let us know why, after 13 years in power, Labour have not re-nationalised any of them... :y
Title: Re: Gordon's Cash for Gold
Post by: duggs on 25 March 2010, 13:38:48
We lose 7 billion for our company and we're out of a job, stuck in Jail.

Why isn't he ??
Title: Re: Gordon's Cash for Gold
Post by: doog on 25 March 2010, 15:17:31
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cool  :y

while we're at it I have a few questions and I've been waiting years for an answer, why:

British Petroleum was privatised in stages in October 1979, September 1983 and November 1987; British Aerospace in January 1981 and 1985; the government share in British Sugar in July 1981; Cable and Wireless in November 1981; Amersham International and National Freight Corporation in February 1982; Britoil in November 1982 and August 1985; Associated British Ports in February 1983; Jaguar in July 1984; British Telecom in November 1984; the National Bus Company in October 1986; British Gas in December 1986; British Airways in February 1987; the Royal Ordnance in April 1987; Rolls-Royce in May 1987; the British Airports Authority in July 1987; the Rover Group in August 1988; British Steel in December 1988; the Regional Water Authorities in November 1989; Girobank in July 1990; and the National Grid in December 1990.


let me know asap  :y

most of that was down to doolally Thatcher
Title: Re: Gordon's Cash for Gold
Post by: albitz on 25 March 2010, 18:44:04
All those companies have provided much more for the exchequer on taxation from their profits (as PLC,s) than they could ever possibly have provided as nationalised industries. So in financial terms its a complete no brainer.whereas what Gormless did cost the country billions. Utter financial ineptitude - no other explanation really.
I must admit though that I do occasionally yearn for those simpler days when you got your Gas/Electricity/phone line etc from THE supplier and prices werent so variable etc, but it isnt realistic to run an economy in that fashion in the 21st century unfortunately.
Title: Re: Gordon's Cash for Gold
Post by: Martin_1962 on 25 March 2010, 19:42:05
I know someone who lives not too far from me is voting labour.

That may effect how I vote, still need to work out the most likely to beat labour candidate.

I do not want useless tosser Foster back >:( >:(
Title: Re: Gordon's Cash for Gold
Post by: Kieran on 25 March 2010, 20:31:04
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cool  :y

while we're at it I have a few questions and I've been waiting years for an answer, why:

British Petroleum was privatised in stages in October 1979, September 1983 and November 1987; British Aerospace in January 1981 and 1985; the government share in British Sugar in July 1981; Cable and Wireless in November 1981; Amersham International and National Freight Corporation in February 1982; Britoil in November 1982 and August 1985; Associated British Ports in February 1983; Jaguar in July 1984; British Telecom in November 1984; the National Bus Company in October 1986; British Gas in December 1986; British Airways in February 1987; the Royal Ordnance in April 1987; Rolls-Royce in May 1987; the British Airports Authority in July 1987; the Rover Group in August 1988; British Steel in December 1988; the Regional Water Authorities in November 1989; Girobank in July 1990; and the National Grid in December 1990.


let me know asap  :y
And about 6 years ago Air traffic control was sold >:(
Title: Re: Gordon's Cash for Gold
Post by: albitz on 25 March 2010, 20:42:12
Good point. Banjaxx didnt mention any of the nationalised companies which have been privatised since Liebore got back in. ;)
Title: Re: Gordon's Cash for Gold
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 25 March 2010, 20:43:52
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cool  :y

while we're at it I have a few questions and I've been waiting years for an answer, why:

British Petroleum was privatised in stages in October 1979, September 1983 and November 1987; British Aerospace in January 1981 and 1985; the government share in British Sugar in July 1981; Cable and Wireless in November 1981; Amersham International and National Freight Corporation in February 1982; Britoil in November 1982 and August 1985; Associated British Ports in February 1983; Jaguar in July 1984; British Telecom in November 1984; the National Bus Company in October 1986; British Gas in December 1986; British Airways in February 1987; the Royal Ordnance in April 1987; Rolls-Royce in May 1987; the British Airports Authority in July 1987; the Rover Group in August 1988; British Steel in December 1988; the Regional Water Authorities in November 1989; Girobank in July 1990; and the National Grid in December 1990.


let me know asap  :y
And about 6 years ago Air traffic control was sold >:(


Yes it was because the New Labour Government had learnt the lesson from Maggies Conservative government that the main task of a government is to run the country, not businesses in their own right that need business managers to run them, using private money not huge amounts of public funds, as the old privatised industries did before 1979.

That is why I for one was so angry about the current government bailing out the banks, using public funds, when the free market should have dictated what banks would live and what would die. 

Yes I am a free market Conservative, believing in the mantra of limited direct state involvement in what we do as individuals and what this countries businesses do.

Controversial I know, and not without a complication or so!  But judging by so much of the rhetoric of this site alone, let alone the general public, the vast majority are very tired of the constant government involvement in the public's lives, nanny State tactics, along with bailing out the banks.

Vote Conservative at the General Election for a better future! 8-) 8-)
Title: Re: Gordon's Cash for Gold
Post by: Entwood on 25 March 2010, 21:53:46
Unfortunately all the arguments really do fall on deaf ears mostly.

The biggest employer, by far, in this country is "government" .... all the nationlised industries, all the civil servants, all the "local government", all council workers, all the tax collection offshoots, all the NHS, all of education - including those "being" educated, police, fire, military, all the unemployed, all the sick, and the list goes on ..  but all those whose income comes from taxation are effectively employed by HMG ... :(

Are they going to vote for the sack or a reduction in pay ???  Not a chance.

The one "clever" thing that the moron has done is to ensure that so many are dependent on "the government" that they will not vote for change.
Title: Re: Gordon's Cash for Gold
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 25 March 2010, 22:01:19
 :-/ :-/ :-/

those privatisation schemes unfortunately ends up in disaster.. :(    as history prooved...

one day you will wake up and you will see the biggest boss ruling the country (even same now for many countries behind the scenes)

good news.. you wont need to vote any more  ;D :D

Title: Re: Gordon's Cash for Gold
Post by: Banjax on 25 March 2010, 23:37:46
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:-/ :-/ :-/

those privatisation schemes unfortunately ends up in disaster.. :(    as history prooved...

one day you will wake up and you will see the biggest boss ruling the country (even same now for many countries behind the scenes)

good news.. you wont need to vote any more  ;D :D


and the reason is Private companies do not have any goal other than to maximize profits. A private company will serve the needs of those who are most willing (and able) to pay, as opposed to the needs of the majority, and are thus anti-democratic  :o :o
Title: Re: Gordon's Cash for Gold
Post by: Entwood on 25 March 2010, 23:45:05
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:-/ :-/ :-/

those privatisation schemes unfortunately ends up in disaster.. :(    as history prooved...

one day you will wake up and you will see the biggest boss ruling the country (even same now for many countries behind the scenes)

good news.. you wont need to vote any more  ;D :D


and the reason is Private companies do not have any goal other than to maximize profits. A private company will serve the needs of those who are most willing (and able) to pay, as opposed to the needs of the majority, and are thus anti-democratic  :o :o


I'm sorry but your definition of democracy must be totally different to the rest of the world

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy

Democracy is about government and voting .. it has absolutely  NOTHING to do with business or private companies.

Please don't misuse the English language to try and make petty points.
Title: Re: Gordon's Cash for Gold
Post by: Banjax on 26 March 2010, 00:16:07
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:-/ :-/ :-/

those privatisation schemes unfortunately ends up in disaster.. :(    as history prooved...

one day you will wake up and you will see the biggest boss ruling the country (even same now for many countries behind the scenes)

good news.. you wont need to vote any more  ;D :D


and the reason is Private companies do not have any goal other than to maximize profits. A private company will serve the needs of those who are most willing (and able) to pay, as opposed to the needs of the majority, and are thus anti-democratic  :o :o


I'm sorry but your definition of democracy must be totally different to the rest of the world

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy

Democracy is about government and voting .. it has absolutely  NOTHING to do with business or private companies.

Please don't misuse the English language to try and make petty points.

is this a new rule for OOF or just me?  ;D

in fairness - you're right, massive companies run by boards elected by a few don't have any influence whatsoever on the democratic process - somebody better tell Murdoch he's been wasting millions all these years  ::)