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Title: Mobile Phone Hacked - Or is it
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 13 May 2010, 23:54:41
Few weeks ago, Neighber came round for a chat, Her mobile phone beeped as if the phone was about to go flat, she pointed out her hands were not in her pockets, showed me the phone and it was recording (or even transmitting what we were saying)

She reset it and locked it, 2 mins later another beep and yet again showed it to me whilst it was recording.

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Now get this one, different phone, she got me to ring her with holding my number, her phone rang, I left a message.  Then she showed me her sim card in her hand and explainded there was no sim card in the phone, and then stripped the phone and proved it.

How can this be.

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Also she still has issues with BT land line, BT not interested as they say line tests allright.

1471 says last phone call was on 7th may, but yet 1571 has 2 recorded messages on the 8th may, phone was never unplugged.

Also she has recorded muffled voices on her answering machine that she believes is the person sossibly hacking her phones/PC etc.

Any one know of any tests or cheap equipment that could possiblt help test or catch whats happeneing here

Would appreciate any advice - Please feel free to PM me.


TIA  :y
Title: Re: Mobile Phone Hacked - Or is it
Post by: tidla on 14 May 2010, 00:40:12
do what they did in that gene hackman/ will smith film and just stamp on it! ;)
Title: Re: Mobile Phone Hacked - Or is it
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 14 May 2010, 00:42:14
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do what they did in that gene hackman/ will smith film and just stamp on it! ;)

I would matey, but it's really starting to scare my neighber.
Title: Re: Mobile Phone Hacked - Or is it
Post by: tidla on 14 May 2010, 00:44:38
shame kw is not about, pretty sure he would know whats going on...
Title: Re: Mobile Phone Hacked - Or is it
Post by: Broomies Mate on 14 May 2010, 00:51:02
It is my understanding that it is impossible for a phone to receive a call without the SIM card.  Afterall, it's the SIM which receives the signal.

Some phones have the ability to hold 2 SIM cards.  Even the ancient Nokia 3210 could hold 2 SIMS with a different case.  Only one SIM can be in use at any one time though.  Sure she isn't winding you up?

The only other thing I can think of, is....... does she have some excellent technical knowledge and connecting to a receiver via WiFi or Bluetooth which contains the SIM card?
Title: Re: Mobile Phone Hacked - Or is it
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 14 May 2010, 01:03:01
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It is my understanding that it is impossible for a phone to receive a call without the SIM card.  Afterall, it's the SIM which receives the signal.

Some phones have the ability to hold 2 SIM cards.  Even the ancient Nokia 3210 could hold 2 SIMS with a different case.  Only one SIM can be in use at any one time though.  Sure she isn't winding you up?

The only other thing I can think of, is....... does she have some excellent technical knowledge and connecting to a receiver via WiFi or Bluetooth which contains the SIM card?

Seriously matey, this is no wind up, I rang the phone my self.  She had the Sim card in her hand at the time.

Neither was it a wind up regards her other phone turning on record mode x 2, I have challenged her on everything she has/had ever told me, these 2 mobile phone incidents happended in own home.
Title: Re: Mobile Phone Hacked - Or is it
Post by: jonnycool on 14 May 2010, 07:18:24
I may be wrong but I'm pretty sure that you can make an emergency call without a sim card, so the phone must be capable of making and receiving a call without one at least

Jon
Title: Re: Mobile Phone Hacked - Or is it
Post by: Plomien on 14 May 2010, 07:25:16
The house line is a crossed/purposely hacked line BT need to come out to sort it, as for the mobile yes the phone can connect to an emergency number but has no registration for incoming calls without the sim.
Title: Re: Mobile Phone Hacked - Or is it
Post by: cam2502 on 14 May 2010, 11:29:23
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shame kw is not about, pretty sure he would know whats going on...
notice hes been banned....what have i missed?
Title: Re: Mobile Phone Hacked - Or is it
Post by: Chris_H on 14 May 2010, 11:50:26
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Few weeks ago, Neighber came round for a chat, Her mobile phone beeped as if the phone was about to go flat, she pointed out her hands were not in her pockets, showed me the phone and it was recording (or even transmitting what we were saying)

She reset it and locked it, 2 mins later another beep and yet again showed it to me whilst it was recording.

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Now get this one, different phone, she got me to ring her with holding my number, her phone rang, I left a message.  Then she showed me her sim card in her hand and explainded there was no sim card in the phone, and then stripped the phone and proved it.

How can this be.

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Also she still has issues with BT land line, BT not interested as they say line tests allright.

1471 says last phone call was on 7th may, but yet 1571 has 2 recorded messages on the 8th may, phone was never unplugged.

Also she has recorded muffled voices on her answering machine that she believes is the person sossibly hacking her phones/PC etc.

Any one know of any tests or cheap equipment that could possiblt help test or catch whats happeneing here

Would appreciate any advice - Please feel free to PM me.


TIA  :y
I don't know the spec. on 1471 and 1571 but it is quite possible that 1471 only reports calls that didn't get intercepted by 1571.  A simple test would prove how it behaves normally.
Title: Re: Mobile Phone Hacked - Or is it
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 14 May 2010, 12:43:50
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I may be wrong but I'm pretty sure that you can make an emergency call without a sim card, so the phone must be capable of making and receiving a call without one at least

Jon

Yes you can, I accidently tested that theory trying to set up my new 360 H1, got 999 clear as a whistle, but still cant get rection to set the sim card up.

Apparently all mobiles have to be able too 999 calls with or with out a sim card or credit.
Title: Re: Mobile Phone Hacked - Or is it
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 14 May 2010, 12:58:18
Where did your neighbour acquire this from Skruntie?

Is it secondhand?

If so, could be that the previous owner had their phone "modified" by a third (government??) department. ;) ;)

It seems very odd, and dare I say "spooky", in the Smileys People way!! :D :D :D :)
Title: Re: Mobile Phone Hacked - Or is it
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 14 May 2010, 12:59:56
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Where did your neighbour acquire this from Skruntie?

Is it secondhand?

If so, could be that the previous owner had their phone "modified" by a third (government??) department. ;) ;)

It seems very odd, and dare I say "spooky", in the Smileys People way!! :D :D :D :)


....yep.....one for Scully and Mulder....the truth is out there Skruntie.... ::) ;)
Title: Re: Mobile Phone Hacked - Or is it
Post by: Xplicit 2.0 on 14 May 2010, 13:06:17
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It is my understanding that it is impossible for a phone to receive a call without the SIM card.  Afterall, it's the SIM which receives the signal.

Some phones have the ability to hold 2 SIM cards.  Even the ancient Nokia 3210 could hold 2 SIMS with a different case.  Only one SIM can be in use at any one time though.  Sure she isn't winding you up?

The only other thing I can think of, is....... does she have some excellent technical knowledge and connecting to a receiver via WiFi or Bluetooth which contains the SIM card?

i dont think thats true... sim cards are just like a Sky card... the ability to receive is there, but nothing saying its a genuine person that has legitimately bought/paid for said item. As far as im aware the Government hav ways of listening to your mobile phones even if it is turned off and without a sim card (only way to stop them is remove the power i.e battery)

Landlines have been known to "cross" connections sometimes resulting in hearing other people etc. As for mobiles, im not sure on it but probably something similar.

My only other suggestion is aliens trying to make contact....... bit far-fetched?  ::)
Title: Re: Mobile Phone Hacked - Or is it
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 14 May 2010, 13:14:05
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Where did your neighbour acquire this from Skruntie?

Is it secondhand?

If so, could be that the previous owner had their phone "modified" by a third (government??) department. ;) ;)

It seems very odd, and dare I say "spooky", in the Smileys People way!! :D :D :D :)

Brand new phone from tesco, seems all her phones are getting compromised, so she just buys a new phone and new sim, seems they have attached themselves to her family as they sre the only people she uses the mobile for, so as soon as she gets a new setup they seem to be finding out from the numbers she uses.

Sounds scary, but that seems to be what is happening, but what the hell do you do to find out what is happeninging and combat it.
Title: Re: Mobile Phone Hacked - Or is it
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 14 May 2010, 13:14:45
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It is my understanding that it is impossible for a phone to receive a call without the SIM card.  Afterall, it's the SIM which receives the signal.

Some phones have the ability to hold 2 SIM cards.  Even the ancient Nokia 3210 could hold 2 SIMS with a different case.  Only one SIM can be in use at any one time though.  Sure she isn't winding you up?

The only other thing I can think of, is....... does she have some excellent technical knowledge and connecting to a receiver via WiFi or Bluetooth which contains the SIM card?

i dont think thats true... sim cards are just like a Sky card... the ability to receive is there, but nothing saying its a genuine person that has legitimately bought/paid for said item. As far as im aware the Government hav ways of listening to your mobile phones even if it is turned off and without a sim card (only way to stop them is remove the power i.e battery)

Landlines have been known to "cross" connections sometimes resulting in hearing other people etc. As for mobiles, im not sure on it but probably something similar.

My only other suggestion is aliens trying to make contact....... bit far-fetched?  ::)


Especially in the days of 'party lines'! :D :D
Title: Re: Mobile Phone Hacked - Or is it
Post by: STMO999 on 14 May 2010, 13:18:13
You'll do anything to get into her knickers. No doubt you'll soon be telling her she'd be safer sleeping at your place. Leave the poor girl alone. ;D
Title: Re: Mobile Phone Hacked - Or is it
Post by: Proz on 14 May 2010, 13:20:52
Mmm as said above where did this phone come from ....  i know a while ago there was some kind of "super bluetooth " hack that allegedly allowed someone to control your phone and make calls from it etc using the bluetooth connectivity ... only thing is bluetooth doesnt have that far of a range for the hacker .... i remember reading about it at the time but dont know what truth there was to it  :-/
Title: Re: Mobile Phone Hacked - Or is it
Post by: Proz on 14 May 2010, 13:21:49
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You'll do anything to get into her knickers. No doubt you'll soon be telling her she'd be safer sleeping at your place. Leave the poor girl alone. ;D

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Mobile Phone Hacked - Or is it
Post by: STMO999 on 14 May 2010, 13:23:56
People who go to the trouble of 'hacking' into phones/computers etc., usually have a good reason to do so. Find the reason why anyone should want to and you'll probably find out who it is.
Title: Re: Mobile Phone Hacked - Or is it
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 14 May 2010, 13:26:14
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People who go to the trouble of 'hacking' into phones/computers etc., usually have a good reason to do so. Find the reason why anyone should want to and you'll probably find out who it is.



...............and who your neighbour really is!! :o :o :o

Watch out Skruntie, she could be some form of "scarry Mary"!! :o :o

 ;D ;D ;D ;)
Title: Re: Mobile Phone Hacked - Or is it
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 14 May 2010, 13:26:28
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Mmm as said above where did this phone come from ....  i know a while ago there was some kind of "super bluetooth " hack that allegedly allowed someone to control your phone and make calls from it etc using the bluetooth connectivity ... only thing is bluetooth doesnt have that far of a range for the hacker .... i remember reading about it at the time but dont know what truth there was to it  :-/

As above, its mew and from Tesco's, the hacker in question could be living accross the road. Maybe 80 to 100 feet away. 

We have thought of wifi and blue tooth hacking, this phone is not wifi. On the one that did the voice recording and this one the blue tooth was checked straight away and was turned off.
Title: Re: Mobile Phone Hacked - Or is it
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 14 May 2010, 13:30:03
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People who go to the trouble of 'hacking' into phones/computers etc., usually have a good reason to do so. Find the reason why anyone should want to and you'll probably find out who it is.

I have cross questioned her about all the people she talks to and even questioned her about her work contacts and close friends.

The thing is, this sort of person is going to be aware that they are going to get into trouble if/when caught so will be very carefull in avoiding showing what they are really up to.
Title: Re: Mobile Phone Hacked - Or is it
Post by: Proz on 14 May 2010, 13:30:28
Ahh i missed the post stating it was new ..... seems very odd though .... could there be any reason for her to be "monitored" ?
Makes you wander how easy it is  :-/
Title: Re: Mobile Phone Hacked - Or is it
Post by: Proz on 14 May 2010, 13:32:09
Oh im so slow at typing .... the time i ask a question its already been answered  ;D
Title: Re: Mobile Phone Hacked - Or is it
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 14 May 2010, 13:33:14
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Ahh i missed the post stating it was new ..... seems very odd though .... could there be any reason for her to be "monitored" ?
Makes you wander how easy it is  :-/

Not that she is aware off.  We have questioned all sorts of motiffs and come up blank on all of them so far.
Title: Re: Mobile Phone Hacked - Or is it
Post by: Proz on 14 May 2010, 13:35:03
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Ahh i missed the post stating it was new ..... seems very odd though .... could there be any reason for her to be "monitored" ?
Makes you wander how easy it is  :-/

Not that she is aware off.  We have questioned all sorts of motiffs and come up blank on all of them so far.

Mmm the plot thickens .... how bizzare and a little scarey  :o.
Big bro is watching  ::)
Title: Re: Mobile Phone Hacked - Or is it
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 14 May 2010, 13:35:42
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Ahh i missed the post stating it was new ..... seems very odd though .... could there be any reason for her to be "monitored" ?
Makes you wander how easy it is  :-/

Not that she is aware off.  We have questioned all sorts of motiffs and come up blank on all of them so far.


.......or telling you Skruntie? ::) ::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: Mobile Phone Hacked - Or is it
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 14 May 2010, 13:40:09
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Ahh i missed the post stating it was new ..... seems very odd though .... could there be any reason for her to be "monitored" ?
Makes you wander how easy it is  :-/

Not that she is aware off.  We have questioned all sorts of motiffs and come up blank on all of them so far.


.......or telling you Skruntie? ::) ::) ::) ::)


There is that case Lizzie, but I think we know each other well enough to be fairly open on this subject, if she was hiding something them the problem will only take longer to sort, so in fairness it's not in her interests to hide anything.
Title: Re: Mobile Phone Hacked - Or is it
Post by: jonnycool on 14 May 2010, 13:42:59
I'd be very surprised if this really was the work of someone devious, there are much easier ways of keeping tabs on someone if you wanted to, i.e. electronic listening devices or hidden cameras, it's probably a faulty phone. Get a dirt-cheap one from somewhere and try it for a bit

Jon
Title: Re: Mobile Phone Hacked - Or is it
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 14 May 2010, 13:45:45
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I'd be very surprised if this really was the work of someone devious, there are much easier ways of keeping tabs on someone if you wanted to, i.e. electronic listening devices or hidden cameras, it's probably a faulty phone. Get a dirt-cheap one from somewhere and try it for a bit

Jon


This is the 4th or 5th mobile phone that she is having issues with, same ammount of sim cards.
Title: Re: Mobile Phone Hacked - Or is it
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 14 May 2010, 14:35:09
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People who go to the trouble of 'hacking' into phones/computers etc., usually have a good reason to do so. Find the reason why anyone should want to and you'll probably find out who it is.



...............and who your neighbour really is!! :o :o :o

Watch out Skruntie, she could be some form of "scarry Mary"!! :o :o

 ;D ;D ;D ;)

Yep....a bunny boiler perhaps....be very careful Skrunts.... ::) ::) :D :D ;)
Title: Re: Mobile Phone Hacked - Or is it
Post by: STMO999 on 14 May 2010, 15:10:13
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Ahh i missed the post stating it was new ..... seems very odd though .... could there be any reason for her to be "monitored" ?
Makes you wander how easy it is  :-/

Not that she is aware off.  We have questioned all sorts of motiffs and come up blank on all of them so far.


.......or telling you Skruntie? ::) ::) ::) ::)


There is that case Lizzie, but I think we know each other well enough to be fairly open on this subject, if she was hiding something them the problem will only take longer to sort, so in fairness it's not in her interests to hide anything.


Did you read about that woman last week? She married and killed four husbands. I doubt that would happen to you.....but I live in hope.
Title: Re: Mobile Phone Hacked - Or is it
Post by: Chris_H on 14 May 2010, 15:13:17
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Ahh i missed the post stating it was new ..... seems very odd though .... could there be any reason for her to be "monitored" ?
Makes you wander how easy it is  :-/

Not that she is aware off.  We have questioned all sorts of motiffs and come up blank on all of them so far.


.......or telling you Skruntie? ::) ::) ::) ::)


There is that case Lizzie, but I think we know each other well enough to be fairly open on this subject, if she was hiding something them the problem will only take longer to sort, so in fairness it's not in her interests to hide anything.


Did you read about that woman last week? She married and killed four husbands. I doubt that would happen to you.....but I live in hope.
Sound like mercy killings to me. ;D