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Title: Remember my old project GLS?
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 16 April 2007, 03:12:21
The one that wouldn't fire and start after engine transplant.. ECU probs...

Had everyone foxed... big time.. but nobody could find a solution!

Well today, Markie and I worked it out, in a matter of 5 minutes.

All I'm going to say, is that it was MY mistake, and I feel like a serious prat. If I'd have realised this at the time of trying to fix it, it would have been running before you could cound to 60.

Anyone care to guess what the Problem was - or what I did wrong?

Definately learned from it though  ;D
  
 ::)
Title: Re: Remember my old project GLS?
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 16 April 2007, 03:14:34
Ps.. a clue.. I picked up on this, after changing the barrel on the Elite, and the thing not starting after.

(I do/did know about transponders/recievers.. )
Title: Re: Remember my old project GLS?
Post by: Andy B on 16 April 2007, 09:47:30
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Ps.. a clue.. I picked up on this, after changing the barrel on the Elite, and the thing not starting after.

(I do/did know about transponders/recievers.. )

When I picked up my project Astra shed (1.7 TD) it came with two keys. I'd had repeated attempts at starting this car and before I found the two broken rockers had been looking along the electrical route. During one attempt at starting it using the other of the 2 keys I noticed the the EML was flashing rapidly  :-? A phone call to a man in the know suggested the immobiliser was cutting in. When I opened the key ....... there it was! A space where the chip should have been!  :(  
;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Remember my old project GLS?
Post by: MaxV6 on 16 April 2007, 09:51:02
perhaps you did as i did last week... I had to move the Sintra, and started head scratching when i wouldn;t start...

till I clicked the trip computer thru to range...

Range = 0 Miles, absolutely NO petrol in the thing... the last time I moved it must have used the last dregs....

filled forma can and bingo... fires up easy...  still sweeter and keener to rev than my elite....


Max
Title: Re: Remember my old project GLS?
Post by: ClarCE on 16 April 2007, 09:57:45
I was thinking that if you swapped the engine, you may have swapped the ECU.

Then the transponder in the ECU wouldn't match your original key, so you've had needed to put the immobiliser chip from the new engine in your old key to make them match up again...

Anyway, thats my guess :D
Title: Re: Remember my old project GLS?
Post by: Big Rod on 16 April 2007, 10:49:21
I bet you mixed up the TPS and the Camshaft sensor connectors!!!

Am I right or a meringue?
Title: Re: Remember my old project GLS?
Post by: Andy B on 16 April 2007, 11:05:42
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Am I right or a meringue?

I'm so tempted to say :- you're right it's a cake ........
but I won't!  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Remember my old project GLS?
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 16 April 2007, 11:58:32
No, mechanically, and electrically.. I put everything together perfectly.

But then, when it was intermittently running on 2 pots, we changed the loom, ECU, reciever, and transponder and DIS.

Which really should have fixed it.

HOWEVER... Muggins here (yeah, me) ... made a BIG whoopie.

If I had actually known which part of the key the chip was in a the time, it would have started! I was basically trying to start it without a chip in the keys all the time  :'( :'(

Oh well... live and learn eh.. a mistake I won't be making again!

He who never made a mistake never made anything  ;D
Title: Re: Remember my old project GLS?
Post by: Andy B on 16 April 2007, 12:00:03
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I was basically trying to start it without a chip in the keys all the time  :'( :'(
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So I was right then!!  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Remember my old project GLS?
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 16 April 2007, 12:17:37
So now you can sell the car and bag some cash.....
Title: Re: Remember my old project GLS?
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 16 April 2007, 12:24:50
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So now you can sell the car and bag some cash.....

I COULD... if I still owned it.

As you may remember... I let it go for £150 spares and repars, because I gave up with it

After all that work too, replacement engine, new HG, new cambelt / pump....

BLEH!!

That was a costly mistake....car was sooo immaculate!

I just remember, knowing what I know now, I wasn't changing transponders on it at all.. just key covers!
Title: Re: Remember my old project GLS?
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 16 April 2007, 12:31:10
Are you going to tell the new owner....
Title: Re: Remember my old project GLS?
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 16 April 2007, 12:36:01
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Are you going to tell the new owner....

I could send him an email I guess.. I've got nothing to loose by telling him - it was an ebay job

However, I think he may have just wanted the engine for his calibra..

Title: Re: Remember my old project GLS?
Post by: The Barge Captain on 16 April 2007, 14:37:02
Arse.  That's all I can say mate.  Arse. :(