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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: jereboam on 02 June 2010, 20:58:54
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I've got no money, 'cos I've been unemployed for nearly 2 years. Bear that in mind when you attempt to solve my problem.
Years ago, I got interested in genealogy, and started researching my family. I bought some family tree software. Then I lost interest. A few months ago, some "new" relatives contacted me, so I started all over again. But I had some problems with my family tree software. It turned out that it wouldn't run on XP - I'd bought it when I used W2K.
The only working W2K system I have left is upstairs in my son's room - he uses it for games when he's here.
So what I want is to be able to remotely access the W2K computer from my XP computer in my office. We have a fairly reliable home network, so file transfer isn't a problem. If the upstairs computer was on XP, there's built in remote facilities, but they're not in W2K.
Is there any free software available which allows remote desktop over a (workgroup) LAN? I've tried LogMeIn.com, which works, but my broadband connection is rubbish, so this isn't a good solution.
Working upstairs isn't on, buying new family tree software isn't on, and free family tree software doesn't give me the facilities I require.
Any suggestions?
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There are a few you just need a remote desktop program. but why not just install it to a second partition on your current pc?
I found http://www.realvnc.com/ handy for monitoring my daughters pc to ensure she went to bed :y
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There are a few you just need a remote desktop program. but why not just install it to a second partition on your current pc?
I found http://www.realvnc.com/ handy for monitoring my daughters pc to ensure she went to bed :y
Second partition won't solve the problem - I'd be constantly re-booting to check my e-mail and get on with my job search. That's why I don't want to work upstairs.
VNC appears to work over the internet rather than across a LAN. My internet connection is truly awful - at the moment, following some line problems, BT have got it restricted to a download speed of 150kbps. It's supposed to correct itself after 3 days, but it's been stuck there for 9 days, and I haven't got the strength to argue with the Demon (won't)helpdesk. :( :( :(
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I used VNC over my LAN just stick the IP address of the local IP address on the other PC and it connected no problems at all :y
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VNC works over the LAN, not needing internet. Its not the fastest, but it is free :y
Will the Geneology s/w install on your XP PC under a compatibility mode? Or another option is as a virtual machine on your XP, using tools like MS Virtual PC or VMWare Server (VM option will need a bucketload of memory)
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VNC works over the LAN, not needing internet. Its not the fastest, but it is free :y
Will the Geneology s/w install on your XP PC under a compatibility mode? Or another option is as a virtual machine on your XP, using tools like MS Virtual PC or VMWare Server (VM option will need a bucketload of memory)
Right - I'll give it a go - the website isn't all that informative.
The s/w installs, it just doesn't work properly. I contacted the agents for the original manufacturer, but they wouldn't sell me the upgrade version of it which had been modified to work under XP - they withdrew it last year, and now want to sell me expensive modern stuff.
I'll research compatibility modes - can't remember anything about it. And I don't know anything about running local VM systems - I don't have a server, and the only VM test environments I've seen ran from a server (I think). Anyway, my system is overloaded and needs a rebuild, and I'm frightened of breaking it. But thanks for the suggestion - I'll research it. :) :) :)
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If you want go be able to view and control a pc remotly, try logmein.com. I use it to diagnose issues with grandpa tunnies pc :)
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If you want go be able to view and control a pc remotly, try logmein.com. I use it to diagnose issues with grandpa tunnies pc :)
Please read the original post.
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Thank you :) :) :)
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If you want go be able to view and control a pc remotly, try logmein.com. I use it to diagnose issues with grandpa tunnies pc :)
Please read the original post.
[size=16]I said - PLEASE READ THE ORIGINAL POST[/size]
Thank you :) :) :)
http://www.realvnc.com as mentioned in the first reply, will do what you want , but it has to be installed to both PCs (client/server) and when you connect use the local address (given by ipconfig from a DOS prompt)
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Another vote for VNC. I think that'll do what you want. :y
Kevin
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Thank you, gentlemen. RealVNC does the job very nicely, and the presentation, in its own viewer, is far superior to that of LogMeIn.com which runs in a browser and doesn't have brilliant resolution.
:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
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Thank you, gentlemen. RealVNC does the job very nicely, and the presentation, in its own viewer, is far superior to that of LogMeIn.com which runs in a browser and doesn't have brilliant resolution.
:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
try pressing full screen button, it looks fine then. As for speeds I control a home pc via my iPhone on logmein, with a 3G connection it's fine. I've even used it on GPRS (56k) and it's still useable
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Thank you, gentlemen. RealVNC does the job very nicely, and the presentation, in its own viewer, is far superior to that of LogMeIn.com which runs in a browser and doesn't have brilliant resolution.
:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
try pressing full screen button, it looks fine then. As for speeds I control a home pc via my iPhone on logmein, with a 3G connection it's fine. I've even used it on GPRS (56k) and it's still useable
Tried full screen - still fuzzy. Readable, but fuzzy. But response time is unacceptable because my so-called broadband is running at dial-up speed, and we're running 3 computers on this crap line.
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Out of curiosity J (cos I am a nosey old B.) what facilities are you after from your genealogy s/w that the free stuff won't give you? Although the problem has been solved --- I am more into the genealogy problems, having been researching my past reprobates for the last 30 years.
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No need to buy software when you can use Ancestry.co.uk to create a tree
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No need to buy software when you can use Ancestry.co.uk to create a tree
Tribal Pages is also a good place to store (and share if needed) a family tree.
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Thank you, gentlemen. RealVNC does the job very nicely, and the presentation, in its own viewer, is far superior to that of LogMeIn.com which runs in a browser and doesn't have brilliant resolution.
:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
try pressing full screen button, it looks fine then. As for speeds I control a home pc via my iPhone on logmein, with a 3G connection it's fine. I've even used it on GPRS (56k) and it's still useable
If you had read OP, he didn't need an Internet capable system, just one for local LAN. Thus logmein is unsuitable. VNC sounds like it did the job though :y
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No need to buy software when you can use Ancestry.co.uk to create a tree
Ancestry.co.uk limits you to 250 family members on the free part of the site. I've got 550 so far in my tree, and there are at least that many again still to go in. And that's just the one's I'm interested in. I'm part of a large London-based family and I recently discovered I've got a cousin living just down the road I'd never heard of. Which is strange, because I live in Suffolk. :)
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Thank you, gentlemen. RealVNC does the job very nicely, and the presentation, in its own viewer, is far superior to that of LogMeIn.com which runs in a browser and doesn't have brilliant resolution.
:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
try pressing full screen button, it looks fine then. As for speeds I control a home pc via my iPhone on logmein, with a 3G connection it's fine. I've even used it on GPRS (56k) and it's still useable
If you had read OP, he didn't need an Internet capable system, just one for local LAN. Thus logmein is unsuitable. VNC sounds like it did the job though :y
Regrettably, VNC has let me down BADLY! The visible reason my old software wouldn't run on XP was because it didn't seem to handle the input properly, resulting in the database getting corrupted. Dates got overwritten.
Using VNC I just updated the tree on the W2K system from the XP remote desktop. The XP error occurred on the W2K system, and I have been unable to fix it, so it's back to the backup - pain! LogMeIn.com didn't do that, but with my present internet connection, I can't use it.
I'll investigate compatibility mode options, but I suspect this means a VM solution is going to give the same problem. I am inclined to think that the problem may be connected with character sets - my old software claims it handles Unicode, but I think that may not be the case, and because we've got a few foreign names in the family, we may have some field overruns. Although I don't see why this should affect date handling, which is generally the first thing to go wrong. :( :( :(
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JB, what is the software that you are using for the tree on the W2K pc?
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No need to buy software when you can use Ancestry.co.uk to create a tree
Ancestry.co.uk limits you to 250 family members on the free part of the site. I've got 550 so far in my tree, and there are at least that many again still to go in. And that's just the one's I'm interested in. I'm part of a large London-based family and I recently discovered I've got a cousin living just down the road I'd never heard of. Which is strange, because I live in Suffolk. :)
I have 800+ on mine & have never paid them a penny!
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No need to buy software when you can use Ancestry.co.uk to create a tree
Ancestry.co.uk limits you to 250 family members on the free part of the site. I've got 550 so far in my tree, and there are at least that many again still to go in. And that's just the one's I'm interested in. I'm part of a large London-based family and I recently discovered I've got a cousin living just down the road I'd never heard of. Which is strange, because I live in Suffolk. :)
I have 800+ on mine & have never paid them a penny!
Sorry - it's Myheritage.com that limits you to 250 names. I've just had another look at ancestry.co.uk - it's not too bad, but I don't really want to put all this stuff on the internet - some of the family object.
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JB, what is the software that you are using for the tree on the W2K pc?
It's something called Generations, produced by a company called Sierra, and I bought it about 10 years ago. At the time, there wasn't anything about that was significantly better, and it was quite a few years before anything with better facilities appeared. I've got version 8, and apparently there was a version 8.5 that was actually XP compatible.
Sierra no longer support this program, and the company that looked after the support stopped distributing v8.5 a year ago, and they won't sell me a copy now.
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No need to buy software when you can use Ancestry.co.uk to create a tree
Ancestry.co.uk limits you to 250 family members on the free part of the site. I've got 550 so far in my tree, and there are at least that many again still to go in. And that's just the one's I'm interested in. I'm part of a large London-based family and I recently discovered I've got a cousin living just down the road I'd never heard of. Which is strange, because I live in Suffolk. :)
I have 800+ on mine & have never paid them a penny!
Sorry - it's Myheritage.com that limits you to 250 names. I've just had another look at ancestry.co.uk - it's not too bad, but I don't really want to put all this stuff on the internet - some of the family object.
But that's how other relatives that you don't know about help you extend your data. You can invite family member to either have editing or viewing rights & control whether others can see details of living people (go for the latter every time so that you keep control). Others get 'hints' on their own trees that there is a possible match to a name or can post requests on a noticeboard. If they want to see actual data they have to pay. It has never caused me a problem & I have been able to extend mine through being contacted.
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No need to buy software when you can use Ancestry.co.uk to create a tree
Ancestry.co.uk limits you to 250 family members on the free part of the site. I've got 550 so far in my tree, and there are at least that many again still to go in. And that's just the one's I'm interested in. I'm part of a large London-based family and I recently discovered I've got a cousin living just down the road I'd never heard of. Which is strange, because I live in Suffolk. :)
I have 800+ on mine & have never paid them a penny!
Sorry - it's Myheritage.com that limits you to 250 names. I've just had another look at ancestry.co.uk - it's not too bad, but I don't really want to put all this stuff on the internet - some of the family object.
But that's how other relatives that you don't know about help you extend your data. You can invite family member to either have editing or viewing rights & control whether others can see details of living people (go for the latter every time so that you keep control). Others get 'hints' on their own trees that there is a possible match to a name or can post requests on a noticeboard. If they want to see actual data they have to pay. It has never caused me a problem & I have been able to extend mine through being contacted.
Yes, I can see that, and I've been doing the same thing through Genesreunited.com, and found quite a few lost relatives that way. But I have some family members who have absolutely huge databases (10K names and upwards) and are documenting the history of the London Jewish families of Dutch origin, and they provide a far better resource than the public sites. I think that's because they've been researching it for 10 years longer than I have!
You're probably a relative, come to think of it... :)
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I discovered one of the lasses in my office is a cousin from several generations back, through some female offshoot. I only have 700 odd names in my tree due to concentrating on the male lines.