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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Sixstring on 30 June 2010, 09:36:22

Title: Why such a high price?
Post by: Sixstring on 30 June 2010, 09:36:22
My miggy isn't too bad condition, with very little of the dreaded "tin worm", but have a couple of scabby bits in the usual places on the rear doors. Went over to the new bodyshop near me on the way home yesterday, to ask how much to "tart her up" and do those little bits neede to make it look like a rust free example. Although I have my own spraygun/compressor, etc, don't feel confident enough to match up the paint colour properly, and afraid of having a "20 shades of green" car.

Nearly fell off my feet when told £400............!!!(cough)

Apparently, to spray the rear door bottom edge, and where the window trim is (the only scabby bits I've got) needs the entire door stripping down, new window rubber at the bottom of the window where it meets the door, cos the scabby bit is on it, and the rubber will be scrap- he will also need to "blend in" the front door and rear wheelarch, the bottom sill, and will take three/four days to do.

Is he having a giraffe, or am I just being unrealistic???

Don't mind paying, just don't know anything really about spraying (only spray basic stuff like m'cycle tanks and panels, etc.) and don't want to be ripped off.

cheers People!!
Title: Re: Why such a high price?
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 30 June 2010, 10:28:54
Does sound rather expensive that mate... was it just the bottom of the doors you were having done or bits across the top edge too?
Title: Re: Why such a high price?
Post by: Sixstring on 30 June 2010, 10:31:39
Unfortunately Daz, got a scab on the top, right on the window seal, and on the bottom corner of the rear door :'(,
Title: Re: Why such a high price?
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 30 June 2010, 10:37:42
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Unfortunately Daz, got a scab on the top, right on the window seal, and on the bottom corner of the rear door :'(,


Would it be better to source a couple of doors from a breaker? may well be cheaper :y
Title: Re: Why such a high price?
Post by: Sixstring on 30 June 2010, 10:42:03
Yeah, thought of that, still have to spray them though, cos mine's an unusual colour green!

Take the point, suppose it would be loads cheaper.
Any difference between models, Daz?

Do I need CDX or Elite, or base model all the same?

Cheers Buddy, good as always!
Title: Re: Why such a high price?
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 30 June 2010, 10:50:24
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Yeah, thought of that, still have to spray them though, cos mine's an unusual colour green!

Take the point, suppose it would be loads cheaper.
Any difference between models, Daz?

Do I need CDX or Elite, or base model all the same?

Cheers Buddy, good as always!

The door shapes should be the same on both Mini Facelift & Facelift models same as the wings too. The only difference iirc is the rubbing strip down the doors :y
Title: Re: Why such a high price?
Post by: Mysteryman on 30 June 2010, 11:07:31
It's a diabolical liberty when the price of a tart up is probably the same as the car is worth.
Title: Re: Why such a high price?
Post by: Sixstring on 30 June 2010, 11:11:38
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It's a diabolical liberty when the price of a tart up is probably the same as the car is worth.


Jeez! know what you mean, thats about a third of the value of my car...............silly money for a bit of car pride, I suppose. Fai rpoint, D.
Title: Re: Why such a high price?
Post by: Mysteryman on 30 June 2010, 11:15:27
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It's a diabolical liberty when the price of a tart up is probably the same as the car is worth.


Jeez! know what you mean, thats about a third of the value of my car...............silly money for a bit of car pride, I suppose. Fai rpoint, D.


I've just surprised myself there. Priced up your model/year on parkers and they reckon around £1400 for a good one. I do apologise.
Title: Re: Why such a high price?
Post by: Sixstring on 30 June 2010, 11:19:18
No apology needed......some of the models in the same year are not worth tuppence!!!! (and thats in OLD money!!)

However......have seen a couple that the owners want 2k for, same year/model as mine but with less miles on it.

Horses/courses???
Title: Re: Why such a high price?
Post by: Entwood on 30 June 2010, 11:22:15
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It's a diabolical liberty when the price of a tart up is probably the same as the car is worth.


The cars worth has nothing to do with the fact that the company doing the work have a lot of things to pay for ... 

Property rental
Business rates
Business taxes
Water rates
Heating
Income tax
Insurance
Electricity
Tools
Clothing
Equipment
Consumables : Paint, polish, dust cloths, rubbing materials/compounds
Advertising
Property Maintenance
Wages for staff
National Insurance
Pension payments

not least of all and make a profit as well.

It might be worth £50 or  £5000. .. still needs the same amount of work and material...

Of course ... they could do a job for 5 Bob .. then go out of business ... where would you go next time then ???  :)
Title: Re: Why such a high price?
Post by: Mysteryman on 30 June 2010, 11:25:44
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It's a diabolical liberty when the price of a tart up is probably the same as the car is worth.


The cars worth has nothing to do with the fact that the company doing the work have a lot of things to pay for ... 

Property rental
Business rates
Business taxes
Water rates
Heating
Income tax
Insurance
Electricity
Tools
Clothing
Equipment
Consumables : Paint, polish, dust cloths, rubbing materials/compounds
Advertising
Property Maintenance
Wages for staff
National Insurance
Pension payments

not least of all and make a profit as well.

It might be worth £50 or  £5000. .. still needs the same amount of work and material...

Of course ... they could do a job for 5 Bob .. then go out of business ... where would you go next time then ???  :)


I'm not doubting that is was a reasonable price for the job. It's just that one is loathe to pay that sort of money for work on an older car, especially when the rust is likely to appear again at some point.
Title: Re: Why such a high price?
Post by: Entwood on 30 June 2010, 11:27:54
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I'm not doubting that is was a reasonable price for the job. It's just that one is loathe to pay that sort of money for work on an older car, especially when the rust is likely to appear again at some point.

That makes it a choice based on economics ... not a "diabolical liberty"

 ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Why such a high price?
Post by: Mysteryman on 30 June 2010, 11:29:26
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I'm not doubting that is was a reasonable price for the job. It's just that one is loathe to pay that sort of money for work on an older car, especially when the rust is likely to appear again at some point.

That makes it a choice based on economics ... not a "diabolical liberty"

 ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)


Sorry Nige Teacher. ;D
Title: Re: Why such a high price?
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 30 June 2010, 12:51:22
We have a guy locally, all his work is by word of mouth, he has a huge purpose built garage/unit at the rear of his garden which in effect bothers no one on the street and he has a simple pricing system, if the panels are average with with no dents, tin rot not totally overgrown he charges £70 a panel.

never heard a bad word about his quality or workmanship.
Title: Re: Why such a high price?
Post by: Sixstring on 30 June 2010, 12:54:22
Now that sounds about reasonable.....wonder if there is somebody around MY AREA just like him??
Title: Re: Why such a high price?
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 30 June 2010, 13:09:28
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Now that sounds about reasonable.....wonder if there is somebody around MY AREA just like him??

Seems to be the norm arround here, obviously they dont have the higher overheads.

try looking round on some of the out of town older industial estates.  it's just a matter of time before someone mentions they have a mate who works at a garage, but has all the gear in his garage etc.  Who ever you go with just make sure you can see some of thier current work.  (and make sure you see it in natural daylight)
Title: Re: Why such a high price?
Post by: Sixstring on 30 June 2010, 14:48:13
Good point about current work, Skruntie, me old mucker.
Cheers! :y :y
Title: Re: Why such a high price?
Post by: Elite Pete on 30 June 2010, 16:12:06
As Daz says, I would try for a second hand door with no rust. Trying to stop rust once its started is very difficult unles you cut it out.
Title: Re: Why such a high price?
Post by: omegod on 30 June 2010, 16:25:50
I agree with Pete, look hard enough and you will find a door then rustproof it inside and out liberally. I am looking for a set to put away for the future as I think decent miggy doors are going to become really hard to find in a couple of years. 
Title: Re: Why such a high price?
Post by: joshwyatt on 30 June 2010, 18:24:31
That does seem rather expensive. I paid £400 for a respray to both sides, mirror caps and touch ups on an Omega saloon, polish to the roof and boot lid, rear bumper etc. Went in looking terrible, came out excellent.
His quality of work is first rate, very nice guy. I would never use anyone else. If I need it done quickly, he'll do that for me. Sometimes he gives me quotes, and I can't believe how cheap it is. But it's all done properly.
He's about 8 miles from me, and I'm 4 miles myself from Oxford city centre, if anyone needs work doing...feel free to send me a PM and I'll forward his number and details  :y
Title: Re: Why such a high price?
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 30 June 2010, 18:30:31
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That does seem rather expensive. I paid £400 for a respray to both sides, mirror caps and touch ups on an Omega saloon, polish to the roof and boot lid, rear bumper etc. Went in looking terrible, came out excellent.
His quality of work is first rate, very nice guy. I would never use anyone else. If I need it done quickly, he'll do that for me. Sometimes he gives me quotes, and I can't believe how cheap it is. But it's all done properly.
He's about 8 miles from me, and I'm 4 miles myself from Oxford city centre, if anyone needs work doing...feel free to send me a PM and I'll forward his number and details  :y

What you have to remember there though Josh is that you are trade and a regular customer.  privte customers might pop in for jobs every 3 or 4 years or just one off jobs.

it is in thier interest to look after you, as you will allways be a regular.  :y
Title: Re: Why such a high price?
Post by: Hannah Judes Dad on 30 June 2010, 21:33:55
£400 ! thats more than my whole car  :o