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Title: Why me
Post by: Elite Pete on 12 July 2010, 11:58:34
Sods law. I received my chip to make my diesel quicker but with having a busy weekend i've not had chance to whip the ECU apart and fit it. Wifey is in work today and its persisting down so I cant remove the gearbox and cats from the breaker so I thought it would be an excellent time to have a go at the ECU. I have removed it, stripped it down and the bloody chip is the one which is soldered in and i'm as good at soldering as Geoff Capes is at ballet :'( :'(
Title: Re: Why me
Post by: Jimbob on 12 July 2010, 12:00:23
any tv repair shops nearby?
Title: Re: Why me
Post by: Andy B on 12 July 2010, 12:00:58
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.....  and the bloody chip is the one which is soldered in and i'm as good at soldering as Geoff Capes is at ballet :'( :'(

Yoou could borrow my soldering iron & solder 'sucker'  :y  :y
Title: Re: Why me
Post by: Sixstring on 12 July 2010, 12:01:31
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Sods law. I received my chip to make my diesel quicker but with having a busy weekend i've not had chance to whip the ECU apart and fit it. Wifey is in work today and its persisting down so I cant remove the gearbox and cats from the breaker so I thought it would be an excellent time to have a go at the ECU. I have removed it, stripped it down and the bloody chip is the one which is soldered in and i'm as good at soldering as Geoff Capes is at ballet :'( :'(


PMSL............(sorry Pete, coudln't help it!!)
Title: Re: Why me
Post by: Elite Pete on 12 July 2010, 12:01:32
Good idea. I'll have a look in the Yellow Pages :y
Title: Re: Why me
Post by: Andy B on 12 July 2010, 12:01:40
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any tv repair shops nearby?

they just buy new tellys in Cheshire!  ::)  ::)
Title: Re: Why me
Post by: charlie on 12 July 2010, 12:02:07
427's normally are pete, its sods law,but on the upside you should have a good payday with the cats. :y
Title: Re: Why me
Post by: Jimbob on 12 July 2010, 12:03:24
http://www.manchesterhasit.co.uk/business/13011/
Title: Re: Why me
Post by: Elite Pete on 12 July 2010, 12:04:00
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427's normally are pete, its sods law,but on the upside you should have a good payday with the cats. :y
Unfortunately not, they're the cheapo non genuine ones :(
Title: Re: Why me
Post by: charlie on 12 July 2010, 12:05:38
thats sods law  again :D
Title: Re: Why me
Post by: Jimbob on 12 July 2010, 12:06:54
or wait till Newent....should be some good solderers there if you can wait that long.
Title: Re: Why me
Post by: Elite Pete on 12 July 2010, 12:08:23
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or wait till Newent....should be some good solderers there if you can wait that long.
Yeah right, i'm like a kid on Christmas Eve ;D ;D
Title: Re: Why me
Post by: Jimbob on 12 July 2010, 12:09:17
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or wait till Newent....should be some good solderers there if you can wait that long.
Yeah right, i'm like a kid on Christmas Eve ;D ;D


this does not suprise me  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Why me
Post by: Elite Pete on 12 July 2010, 12:10:55
There's a local PC repair place, I will give them a try :y
Title: Re: Why me
Post by: TheBoy on 12 July 2010, 12:10:56
Needs a good iron, not a cheapie, to get lots of heat quickly to the joint, particularly on the 0v pin.
Title: Re: Why me
Post by: Jimbob on 12 July 2010, 12:12:18
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There's a local PC repair place, I will give them a try :y


Can't see computer repair knowing how to solder these days  ;D

did you see my link further up?
Title: Re: Why me
Post by: Elite Pete on 12 July 2010, 12:17:08
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There's a local PC repair place, I will give them a try :y


Can't see computer repair knowing how to solder these days  ;D

did you see my link further up?
Yes thanks JB but its someones house and Barnton is as bad as where I live so its probably a local fence ;D ;D
Title: Re: Why me
Post by: Jimbob on 12 July 2010, 12:18:27
say no more  :y
Title: Re: Why me
Post by: Sixstring on 12 July 2010, 12:29:40
just a thought, Pete........

Look through the local yellow pages for electronic engineers, theres quite a few self employed ones in my local "blue book", I'm sure someone would do it for you for the price of a pint.
Title: Re: Why me
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 12 July 2010, 13:15:48
Pop it round and I will do it for you.
Title: Re: Why me
Post by: I_want_an_Omega on 12 July 2010, 13:23:52
I would have done it for if you were a bit closer Pete - always the way isn't it?

A word of caution.

Its almost impossible to remove a chip of this size and have the board and chip survive. So, think about it, the board is most important so therefore sacrificing the chip is really the only option.

Firstly, using a pair of very fine/sharp cutters, the tops of the legs of the chip need to be cut off. That will leave 40 (or however many) standalone legs sticking out of the board.

Using the fine iron and sucker the solder is then sucked of each leg in turn. A very small quantity of solder stays with each leg but this is usually easily removed with the extra fine long nose pliers.

I used to do this regularly many many years ago and doubt the practice has changed at all.

You can put a socket in to hold the new chip - but the old one will be beyond redemption.

I'd ask whoever is going to do the job how they would do it. If they say they can extract the old chip then I'd walk away - but thats just IMHO.

If this goes wrong then your ECU is toast!

Good luck Pete  ::)
Title: Re: Why me
Post by: TheBoy on 12 July 2010, 14:01:36
Its fairly easy to remove this chip complete without damage. Only ever damaged one, and that was attempting it in a field, with a £2.99 iron that wasn't man enough.
Title: Re: Why me
Post by: TheBoy on 12 July 2010, 14:03:36
and my soldering skills aren't all that, as MDTM will testify when I get some CIDs over to him

(MDTM -  I have have to pop up to see Matchless, so will drop all the bits of CID I have to you. Can leave you with a NCDC if you need that to help you play)