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Title: Corrie Train Errors
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 30 August 2010, 20:26:39
I love it when a soap, like Corrie, has a railway scene, especially when it includes a steam engine.

However for us serious railway historians and steam train enthusiasts it is hard on us when silly errors are made by programme makers, like pre-war scenes including engines built in BR days post 1948!  We notice such things, as sad we are!! ;D ;D ;D ;D

Tonight Corrie has had a scene, featuring Black 5 44871, masquerading as Lancashire Fusiliers, with the evil character scary Mary managing to uncouple the last coach and the train departing, with that coach, until 'losing' it down the line  -----  impossible!!! ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

No way could the train have been tampered with in that way without someone noticing, then the train would not have been able to leave the station with a carriage coupling detached, as the first jolt would have broken the vacuum pipe and the brakes would be locked on.  Even if the coach could be pulled along for so long with its steam heating and vacuum pipes attached, when the vacuum pipe eventually broke the whole train would come to a halt! 

Finally the train was obviously meant to be on a steam preservation line where intermediate signal boxes would probably manned, and the signalman would have noted, when checking for the red tail light, that it was a 'broken train'.

Why can't tv and film directors get these things right? ::) ::) ::)

Who else notices such mistakes when their speciality is wrongly portrayed in tv and film productions? :D :D :D :D ;)

Title: Re: Corrie Train Errors
Post by: Jimbob on 30 August 2010, 20:31:09
Its a story!
Title: Re: Corrie Train Errors
Post by: Vamps on 30 August 2010, 20:33:15
Oh dear....... :D :D :D

I started to say such things to swmbo...... :-X :-X :-X
Title: Re: Corrie Train Errors
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 30 August 2010, 20:42:09
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Its a story!

Ah, maybe Jimbob, but any railway scenes must still be right or us female anoraks freak out!! :o :o :o ;D ;D ;D ;D ;) ;)
Title: Re: Corrie Train Errors
Post by: PhilRich on 30 August 2010, 20:43:53
It's a 'story' Lizzie, & as such the Producers couldn't give a stuff about it being Historically or Mechanically correct. the storylines on these soaps are a farce anyway, played for laughs (or groans) & meant to be taken with a pinch ton of salt. ;D ;D :y
Title: Re: Corrie Train Errors
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 30 August 2010, 20:53:59
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It's a 'story' Lizzie, & as such the Producers couldn't give a stuff about it being Historically or Mechanically correct. the storylines on these soaps are a farce anyway, played for laughs (or groans) & meant to be taken with a pinch ton of salt. ;D ;D :y


I know Phil, I know! ::) ::) :D :D ;

Trouble is my Grandmother and Mother never accepted anything in film or on tv that either seemed far fetched or implausible, and I am just like them!! ::) ::) :D :D :D :D ;)
Title: Re: Corrie Train Errors
Post by: Martin_1962 on 30 August 2010, 20:58:22
THe scripts are shite anyway.

Basically dreadful.
Title: Re: Corrie Train Errors
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 30 August 2010, 20:58:29
Maybe she put the vac bag on its land...... ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Corrie Train Errors
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 30 August 2010, 22:07:56
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THe scripts are shite anyway.

Basically dreadful.

I'm glad you qualified the first part of your post Martin ;D ;D ;D :y
Title: Re: Corrie Train Errors
Post by: Debs. on 30 August 2010, 22:14:00
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Its a story!

Au contraire! ::)

It`s a rubbish story. :P
Title: Re: Corrie Train Errors
Post by: Andy B on 30 August 2010, 22:24:14
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Tonight Corrie has had a scene, featuring Black 5 44871, masquerading as Lancashire Fusiliers,  ......
Finally the train was obviously meant to be on a steam preservation line  ......


It was at Ramsbottom on the East Lancs Railway line that runs from Bury to Rawtenstall. Same line that Sam Tyler & co in Life on Mars had the final shoot out.  :y  :y
Title: Re: Corrie Train Errors
Post by: Vamps on 30 August 2010, 22:37:51
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Tonight Corrie has had a scene, featuring Black 5 44871, masquerading as Lancashire Fusiliers,  ......
Finally the train was obviously meant to be on a steam preservation line  ......


It was at Ramsbottom on the East Lancs Railway line that runs from Bury to Rawtenstall. Same line that Sam Tyler & co in Life on Mars had the final shoot out.  :y  :y

I thought that was interesting, mentioned it to swmbo and just got that 'blank look' she gives me when she thinks I am 'sad'..... ::) ::)
Title: Re: Corrie Train Errors
Post by: Richie London on 30 August 2010, 22:41:03
anorak>door>goodnight  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Corrie Train Errors
Post by: Andy B on 30 August 2010, 22:50:08
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anorak>door>goodnight  ;D ;D

is that for me?  ::)
I know cos I live just a couple of miles away. Just across the road & river from the station is a park that my lad played football at many times & we now take the dog for walks. The bit of line where Sam was shot was just up from a the next station back from 'Rammy' which is 5 mins walk from where SWMBO lived as a kid.  :y
ELR is a very popular attraction around here. For the CAMRA supporters, Bury railway staion has a pub, The Trackside, where they have a wide range of real ale guest beers.  :y  :y  :y I do sample them from time to time.  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Corrie Train Errors
Post by: tidla on 30 August 2010, 22:58:16
im sure there will be light at the end of the tunnel ::)
(weekend jollies)

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqSw-egdYws[/media]
Title: Re: Corrie Train Errors
Post by: Martin_1962 on 30 August 2010, 23:05:44
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Tonight Corrie has had a scene, featuring Black 5 44871, masquerading as Lancashire Fusiliers,  ......
Finally the train was obviously meant to be on a steam preservation line  ......


It was at Ramsbottom on the East Lancs Railway line that runs from Bury to Rawtenstall. Same line that Sam Tyler & co in Life on Mars had the final shoot out.  :y  :y


Good example of well written
Title: Re: Corrie Train Errors
Post by: Sixstring on 31 August 2010, 09:31:22
OMG......spotted that too, Lizzie. When I mentioned it to SWMBO all I got was..."you are sooooo sad to know that....I wouldn't tell anybody if I was you......................."

Hmm. I didn't....................... :D :D :D
Title: Re: Corrie Train Errors
Post by: Kevin Wood on 31 August 2010, 09:39:35
Maybe I'm missing something but is anyone likely to be wasting their life watching Corrie going to notice a few incorrect details?  [smiley=evil.gif]

Kevin
Title: Re: Corrie Train Errors
Post by: Chris_H on 31 August 2010, 10:33:22
I believe their audience statistics came back with the result that no intelligent people watch this stuff so they dropped the standard. ;D

SWMBO and I watched Revolutionary Road on DVD last night (utter rubbish IMHO) but it's set in the 1950s.  Towards the end a house had two of those 'starburst' PAR security clusters on the back - oops.  They usually pay more attention than that on period dramas.
Title: Re: Corrie Train Errors
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 31 August 2010, 12:01:33
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I love it when a soap, like Corrie, has a railway scene, especially when it includes a steam engine.

However for us serious railway historians and steam train enthusiasts it is hard on us when silly errors are made by programme makers, like pre-war scenes including engines built in BR days post 1948!  We notice such things, as sad we are!! ;D ;D ;D ;D

Tonight Corrie has had a scene, featuring Black 5 44871, masquerading as Lancashire Fusiliers, with the evil character scary Mary managing to uncouple the last coach and the train departing, with that coach, until 'losing' it down the line  -----  impossible!!! ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

No way could the train have been tampered with in that way without someone noticing, then the train would not have been able to leave the station with a carriage coupling detached, as the first jolt would have broken the vacuum pipe and the brakes would be locked on.  Even if the coach could be pulled along for so long with its steam heating and vacuum pipes attached, when the vacuum pipe eventually broke the whole train would come to a halt! 

Finally the train was obviously meant to be on a steam preservation line where intermediate signal boxes would probably manned, and the signalman would have noted, when checking for the red tail light, that it was a 'broken train'.

Why can't tv and film directors get these things right? ::) ::) ::)

Who else notices such mistakes when their speciality is wrongly portrayed in tv and film productions? :D :D :D :D ;)



A 1995 Rover 620 in Ashes to Ashes......and a Morris Marina in the sixties crap they call Heartbeat. :y



.......and I should add......Corrie is total crap....which should have been binned years ago....in about 1960 ::) ::)
Title: Re: Corrie Train Errors
Post by: Seth on 31 August 2010, 13:40:35
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I love it when a soap, like Corrie, has a railway scene, especially when it includes a steam engine.

However for us serious railway historians and steam train enthusiasts it is hard on us when silly errors are made by programme makers, like pre-war scenes including engines built in BR days post 1948!  We notice such things, as sad we are!! ;D ;D ;D ;D

Tonight Corrie has had a scene, featuring Black 5 44871, masquerading as Lancashire Fusiliers, with the evil character scary Mary managing to uncouple the last coach and the train departing, with that coach, until 'losing' it down the line  -----  impossible!!! ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

No way could the train have been tampered with in that way without someone noticing, then the train would not have been able to leave the station with a carriage coupling detached, as the first jolt would have broken the vacuum pipe and the brakes would be locked on.  Even if the coach could be pulled along for so long with its steam heating and vacuum pipes attached, when the vacuum pipe eventually broke the whole train would come to a halt! 

Finally the train was obviously meant to be on a steam preservation line where intermediate signal boxes would probably manned, and the signalman would have noted, when checking for the red tail light, that it was a 'broken train'.

Why can't tv and film directors get these things right? ::) ::) ::)

Who else notices such mistakes when their speciality is wrongly portrayed in tv and film productions? :D :D :D :D ;)


'Train incomplete' in railway terminology ;)
Title: Re: Corrie Train Errors
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 31 August 2010, 13:43:31
And would also be spotted on modern setups thanks to the axle counters and the presence of another object on a distant track circuit
Title: Re: Corrie Train Errors
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 31 August 2010, 13:55:54
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I love it when a soap, like Corrie, has a railway scene, especially when it includes a steam engine.

However for us serious railway historians and steam train enthusiasts it is hard on us when silly errors are made by programme makers, like pre-war scenes including engines built in BR days post 1948!  We notice such things, as sad we are!! ;D ;D ;D ;D

Tonight Corrie has had a scene, featuring Black 5 44871, masquerading as Lancashire Fusiliers, with the evil character scary Mary managing to uncouple the last coach and the train departing, with that coach, until 'losing' it down the line  -----  impossible!!! ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

No way could the train have been tampered with in that way without someone noticing, then the train would not have been able to leave the station with a carriage coupling detached, as the first jolt would have broken the vacuum pipe and the brakes would be locked on.  Even if the coach could be pulled along for so long with its steam heating and vacuum pipes attached, when the vacuum pipe eventually broke the whole train would come to a halt! 

Finally the train was obviously meant to be on a steam preservation line where intermediate signal boxes would probably manned, and the signalman would have noted, when checking for the red tail light, that it was a 'broken train'.

Why can't tv and film directors get these things right? ::) ::) ::)

Who else notices such mistakes when their speciality is wrongly portrayed in tv and film productions? :D :D :D :D ;)


'Train incomplete' in railway terminology ;)


That's the one Byron! :y :y :D :D ;)
Title: Re: Corrie Train Errors
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 31 August 2010, 13:57:29
The only thing I would say is that a 'portable immersion heater' will not stop when the train brake is vented unless the driver spots the vac go and cuts the power.

Title: Re: Corrie Train Errors
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 31 August 2010, 13:58:40
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OMG......spotted that too, Lizzie. When I mentioned it to SWMBO all I got was..."you are sooooo sad to know that....I wouldn't tell anybody if I was you......................."

Hmm. I didn't....................... :D :D :D


It must be so difficult when you are with some one who isn't as interested in something as you are SS :( :(

I was lucky, my ex was sadder than me when it came to railway anoraking!! :D :D :D :D ;) ;)
Title: Re: Corrie Train Errors
Post by: Mysteryman on 31 August 2010, 14:20:12
At least a bit of 'anoraking' over corrie keeps the "I spotted the rear left hand brake light of an omega for a tenth of a second in an old episode of cracker at 3am this morning" brigade quiet. ::)
Title: Re: Corrie Train Errors
Post by: Danny on 31 August 2010, 16:29:00
can anyone shed any light on how many steam trains are still being used? for whatever reason at all?

i was delivering in lostock, bolton, on an estate that overlooks lostock station on saturday just gone, and at around 9am a steam train passed down the line, which unfortunately splits after lostock to hear to either wigan or preston

i couldnt see the actual train due to the houses but saw the steam :D
Title: Re: Corrie Train Errors
Post by: Andy B on 31 August 2010, 16:37:57
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can anyone shed any light on how many steam trains are still being used? for whatever reason at all?

i was delivering in lostock, bolton, on an estate that overlooks lostock station on saturday just gone, and at around 9am a steam train passed down the line, which unfortunately splits after lostock to hear to either wigan or preston

i couldnt see the actual train due to the houses but saw the steam :D

I saw steam from the A6/M61 this morning on my way to work (Wigan) but it was this ......  ;) http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-11135547
Title: Re: Corrie Train Errors
Post by: Martin_1962 on 31 August 2010, 16:45:05
I think there is roughly a thouaand preserved steam locos in the UK
Title: Re: Corrie Train Errors
Post by: Danny on 31 August 2010, 16:48:12
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can anyone shed any light on how many steam trains are still being used? for whatever reason at all?

i was delivering in lostock, bolton, on an estate that overlooks lostock station on saturday just gone, and at around 9am a steam train passed down the line, which unfortunately splits after lostock to hear to either wigan or preston

i couldnt see the actual train due to the houses but saw the steam :D

I saw steam from the A6/M61 this morning on my way to work (Wigan) but it was this ......  ;) http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-11135547

thats right next to our depot, its probably the 3rd time in 12 months that place has been on fire!