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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 21 September 2010, 12:58:43
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some nice photos there mate :y (must get round to sorting out a visit to one of these shows myself as little un would enjoy it too)
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some nice cars the one I would realy like to have is the rover p5 v8 :D :D
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That Capri brings back some memories, my mate had a GTXLR, it eventually died the same way as most Capris did by falling off the road failing to take a gentle bend in the wet ;D
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Well done Opti 8-) - very enjoyable indeed. :y :y
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Not a single Morris Minor, I'm very disappointed! :'( :'(
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Lovely pictures Optimist!! :y :y :y
Personally I love the Vauxhall Victor and the Austin Seven the most, but they are all gorgeous! :-* :-* :-* 8-) 8-)
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The alfa for me. Very pretty AND ultra reliable. :y
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I love the TR's
I have always had a soft spot for the Mk2 Cav Convertibles
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The alfa for me. Very pretty AND ultra reliable. :y
Lol, what parralel universe are you currently frequenting
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The 1800ES Volvo and the boat tail Alfa both do it for me. 8-) :y :y
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Lovely pictures Optimist!! :y :y :y
Personally I love the Vauxhall Victor and the Austin Seven the most, but they are all gorgeous! :-* :-* :-* 8-) 8-)
Is it true that the mk3 cavalier was called that and not called the vectra A as it was in Europe, to avoid association with the Victor?
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The alfa for me. Very pretty AND ultra reliable. :y
Lol, what parralel universe are you currently frequenting
Planet STMO is a very strange place. ;D
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Lovely pictures Optimist!! :y :y :y
Personally I love the Vauxhall Victor and the Austin Seven the most, but they are all gorgeous! :-* :-* :-* 8-) 8-)
Is it true that the mk3 cavalier was called that and not called the vectra A as it was in Europe, to avoid association with the Victor?
I really do not know Lisa, but no doubt someone on here will know! :D :D
All I can say is that there was a good 30+ years between the Victor and the Mk3 Cavalier ;) ;)
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That Capri brings back some memories, my mate had a GTXLR, it eventually died the same way as most Capris did by falling off the road failing to take a gentle bend in the wet ;D
:) I had one the same colour as that one ( well that and rust!) wish i had made more of an effort to keep it-would have been worth a lot of money by now :(
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Anyone care to guess what the pale blue car is .....seventh photo down?...these cars are as rare as rocking horse shit. They used to put the old Ford 3 litre V6 essex lump in them.
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It could be a Bristol? :-/
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It could be a Bristol? :-/
Nope....I'll give you a clue Mr Steve.....It's Welsh!!!
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gilbern invader mk3
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Love the Wolseley. It's either a 6/99 or 6/110 - used to have one - brilliant - 3 litre BMC lorry engine, 3 speed gearbox with manually operated overdrive on every gear, including reverse.
Used to take about half-an-hour to reach 50mph, but then it took off like the proverbial bat out of hell.
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Love the Wolseley. It's either a 6/99 or 6/110 - used to have one - brilliant - 3 litre BMC lorry engine, 3 speed gearbox with manually operated overdrive on every gear, including reverse.
Used to take about half-an-hour to reach 50mph, but then it took off like the proverbial bat out of hell.
In 1968 one of my teachers, Mr. Ashton ex-professional cricketer for Yorkshire, had one of those and it was lovely.
My father had a 3 year old Morris Oxford at the same time, which of course was of the same body shell as the Wolseley and the Austin Cambridge. Great family cars every one of them 8-) 8-) 8-)
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gilbern invader mk3
Spot On Lisa.....I did not expect a mere woman to know that.... ;) :-*
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gilbern invader mk3
Can't really be anything other than a gilbern if it's Welsh. Well done on the model.
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Love the Wolseley. It's either a 6/99 or 6/110 - used to have one - brilliant - 3 litre BMC lorry engine, 3 speed gearbox with manually operated overdrive on every gear, including reverse.
Used to take about half-an-hour to reach 50mph, but then it took off like the proverbial bat out of hell.
In 1968 one of my teachers, Mr. Ashton ex-professional cricketer for Yorkshire, had one of those and it was lovely.
My father had a 3 year old Morris Oxford at the same time, which of course was of the same body shell as the Wolseley and the Austin Cambridge. Great family cars every one of them 8-) 8-) 8-)
Not quite - BMC offered two sizes of the Pininfarina design, which was very similar to the Peugeot 404 from the same designer. The Morris Oxford and Austin Cambridge were the smaller model, with 4-cylinder engines. The Austin Westminster and the Wolseley 6/99 were the bigger size with six-cylinder engines and a much higher level of trim. I think the Westminster may have been replaced later by a Vanden Plas Princess model, although they may have been available at the same time. The Vanden Plas was later de-finned and provided with a 4-litre Rolls-Royce engine - a fabulous car from a bulk manufacturer. There was also a smaller Wolseley 16/60 with the 4-cylinder engine and a higher trim, and, I think, there were similar Riley (Pathfinder?) and MG Magnette versions.
The big Wolseleys were frequently used as police cars, in the days before they abandoned the bell and painted everything white and orange. I can't imagine a white and orange Wolseley. :) :) :)
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Love the Wolseley. It's either a 6/99 or 6/110 - used to have one - brilliant - 3 litre BMC lorry engine, 3 speed gearbox with manually operated overdrive on every gear, including reverse.
Used to take about half-an-hour to reach 50mph, but then it took off like the proverbial bat out of hell.
In 1968 one of my teachers, Mr. Ashton ex-professional cricketer for Yorkshire, had one of those and it was lovely.
My father had a 3 year old Morris Oxford at the same time, which of course was of the same body shell as the Wolseley and the Austin Cambridge. Great family cars every one of them 8-) 8-) 8-)
Not quite - BMC offered two sizes of the Pininfarina design, which was very similar to the Peugeot 404 from the same designer. The Morris Oxford and Austin Cambridge were the smaller model, with 4-cylinder engines. The Austin Westminster and the Wolseley 6/99 were the bigger size with six-cylinder engines and a much higher level of trim. I think the Westminster may have been replaced later by a Vanden Plas Princess model, although they may have been available at the same time. The Vanden Plas was later de-finned and provided with a 4-litre Rolls-Royce engine - a fabulous car from a bulk manufacturer. There was also a smaller Wolseley 16/60 with the 4-cylinder engine and a higher trim, and, I think, there were similar Riley (Pathfinder?) and MG Magnette versions.
The big Wolseleys were frequently used as police cars, in the days before they abandoned the bell and painted everything white and orange. I can't imagine a white and orange Wolseley. :) :) :)
Well that dispels 40+ years of error! ::) ::) ::) :D :D :D :D
I could have sworn the basic floor pans and body framing was all the same across the three, and the wings, bonnets and engines were the different ingredients. Just like the Carlton and the Senator set ups.
I know the Austin Westminster was the big daddy and a far larger model, but I did not realise the Wolsley shown in the picture was of that range.
You certainly live and learn on here! :D :D Thanks JB! :y :y :y
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Love the Wolseley. It's either a 6/99 or 6/110 - used to have one - brilliant - 3 litre BMC lorry engine, 3 speed gearbox with manually operated overdrive on every gear, including reverse.
Used to take about half-an-hour to reach 50mph, but then it took off like the proverbial bat out of hell.
In 1968 one of my teachers, Mr. Ashton ex-professional cricketer for Yorkshire, had one of those and it was lovely.
My father had a 3 year old Morris Oxford at the same time, which of course was of the same body shell as the Wolseley and the Austin Cambridge. Great family cars every one of them 8-) 8-) 8-)
Not quite - BMC offered two sizes of the Pininfarina design, which was very similar to the Peugeot 404 from the same designer. The Morris Oxford and Austin Cambridge were the smaller model, with 4-cylinder engines. The Austin Westminster and the Wolseley 6/99 were the bigger size with six-cylinder engines and a much higher level of trim. I think the Westminster may have been replaced later by a Vanden Plas Princess model, although they may have been available at the same time. The Vanden Plas was later de-finned and provided with a 4-litre Rolls-Royce engine - a fabulous car from a bulk manufacturer. There was also a smaller Wolseley 16/60 with the 4-cylinder engine and a higher trim, and, I think, there were similar Riley (Pathfinder?) and MG Magnette versions.
The big Wolseleys were frequently used as police cars, in the days before they abandoned the bell and painted everything white and orange. I can't imagine a white and orange Wolseley. :) :) :)
Well that dispels 40+ years of error! ::) ::) ::) :D :D :D :D
I could have sworn the basic floor pans and body framing was all the same across the three, and the wings, bonnets and engines were the different ingredients. Just like the Carlton and the Senator set ups.
I know the Austin Westminster was the big daddy and a far larger model, but I did not realise the Wolsley shown in the picture was of that range.
You certainly live and learn on here! :D :D Thanks JB! :y :y :y
The Wolsely in the picture is actually a 16/60 which did share the same shell and running gear with the Morris Oxford / Austin Cambridge.
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Love the Wolseley. It's either a 6/99 or 6/110 - used to have one - brilliant - 3 litre BMC lorry engine, 3 speed gearbox with manually operated overdrive on every gear, including reverse.
Used to take about half-an-hour to reach 50mph, but then it took off like the proverbial bat out of hell.
In 1968 one of my teachers, Mr. Ashton ex-professional cricketer for Yorkshire, had one of those and it was lovely.
My father had a 3 year old Morris Oxford at the same time, which of course was of the same body shell as the Wolseley and the Austin Cambridge. Great family cars every one of them 8-) 8-) 8-)
Not quite - BMC offered two sizes of the Pininfarina design, which was very similar to the Peugeot 404 from the same designer. The Morris Oxford and Austin Cambridge were the smaller model, with 4-cylinder engines. The Austin Westminster and the Wolseley 6/99 were the bigger size with six-cylinder engines and a much higher level of trim. I think the Westminster may have been replaced later by a Vanden Plas Princess model, although they may have been available at the same time. The Vanden Plas was later de-finned and provided with a 4-litre Rolls-Royce engine - a fabulous car from a bulk manufacturer. There was also a smaller Wolseley 16/60 with the 4-cylinder engine and a higher trim, and, I think, there were similar Riley (Pathfinder?) and MG Magnette versions.
The big Wolseleys were frequently used as police cars, in the days before they abandoned the bell and painted everything white and orange. I can't imagine a white and orange Wolseley. :) :) :)
Well that dispels 40+ years of error! ::) ::) ::) :D :D :D :D
I could have sworn the basic floor pans and body framing was all the same across the three, and the wings, bonnets and engines were the different ingredients. Just like the Carlton and the Senator set ups.
I know the Austin Westminster was the big daddy and a far larger model, but I did not realise the Wolsley shown in the picture was of that range.
You certainly live and learn on here! :D :D Thanks JB! :y :y :y
The Wolsely in the picture is actually a 16/60 which did share the same shell and running gear with the Morris Oxford / Austin Cambridge.
Ah, thanks BV! :y :y
I thought it was the smaller version 8-) 8-) 8-)
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...............and yes my memory was not playing tricks.
The same shell was used for the Morris, Austin, MG, Riley, and Wolsley; five in all using the basic BMC shell, but attaching on their bonnets, wings, badges, engines, and internal fittings like the seats and dash boards.
This owners site for the Wolsley 15/60, as in the OP's picture, is interesting:
http://www.co-oc.org/1560.html
PS Jereboam I can understand how you confused the smaller 15/60 model with it's larger brothers, as they looked similar at a distance. My father in law had a Austin Westminster version of those and it was gorgeous 8-) 8-)
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...............and yes my memory was not playing tricks.
The same shell was used for the Morris, Austin, MG, Riley, and Wolsley; five in all using the basic BMC shell, but attaching on their bonnets, wings, badges, engines, and internal fittings like the seats and dash boards.
This owners site for the Wolsley 15/60, as in the OP's picture, is interesting:
http://www.co-oc.org/1560.html
PS Jereboam I can understand how you confused the smaller 15/60 model with it's larger brothers, as they looked similar at a distance. My father in law had a Austin Westminster version of those and it was gorgeous 8-) 8-)
Its a 16 /60 not a 15/60. look at the rear wings :y
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...............and yes my memory was not playing tricks.
The same shell was used for the Morris, Austin, MG, Riley, and Wolsley; five in all using the basic BMC shell, but attaching on their bonnets, wings, badges, engines, and internal fittings like the seats and dash boards.
This owners site for the Wolsley 15/60, as in the OP's picture, is interesting:
http://www.co-oc.org/1560.html
PS Jereboam I can understand how you confused the smaller 15/60 model with it's larger brothers, as they looked similar at a distance. My father in law had a Austin Westminster version of those and it was gorgeous 8-) 8-)
Its a 16 /60 not a 15/60. look at the rear wings :y
Thanks BV, here is the picture reproduced:
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/lizziefreeman/Trains%20Planes%20Buses%20%20Cars/Wolsley1560.jpg)
Now compare the one off the 15/60 owners site:
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/lizziefreeman/Trains%20Planes%20Buses%20%20Cars/1560Profile.jpg)
I am trying to see the difference :-/ :-/ :D :D :D
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I love the TR's
I have always had a soft spot for the Mk2 Cav Convertibles
Thats a nice TR5 in the third pic down - only TR I've never owned (apart from TR7/8 which imo are not true TRs)
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...............and yes my memory was not playing tricks.
The same shell was used for the Morris, Austin, MG, Riley, and Wolsley; five in all using the basic BMC shell, but attaching on their bonnets, wings, badges, engines, and internal fittings like the seats and dash boards.
This owners site for the Wolsley 15/60, as in the OP's picture, is interesting:
http://www.co-oc.org/1560.html
PS Jereboam I can understand how you confused the smaller 15/60 model with it's larger brothers, as they looked similar at a distance. My father in law had a Austin Westminster version of those and it was gorgeous 8-) 8-)
Its a 16 /60 not a 15/60. look at the rear wings :y
Thanks BV, here is the picture reproduced:
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/lizziefreeman/Trains%20Planes%20Buses%20%20Cars/Wolsley1560.jpg)
Now compare the one off the 15/60 owners site:
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/lizziefreeman/Trains%20Planes%20Buses%20%20Cars/1560Profile.jpg)
I am trying to see the difference :-/ :-/ :D :D :D
The rear wings on the 15/60 point skywards whereas the 16/60 wings are more toned down. also the rear quarter bumper is longer on the 15/60 :y
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gilbern invader mk3
Spot On Lisa.....I did not expect a mere woman to know that.... ;) :-*
:y ;D
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.............this is a 16/60:
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/lizziefreeman/Trains%20Planes%20Buses%20%20Cars/1660T.jpg)
Is there much of a difference, apart from the engine and transmission? :-/ :-/
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...............and yes my memory was not playing tricks.
The same shell was used for the Morris, Austin, MG, Riley, and Wolsley; five in all using the basic BMC shell, but attaching on their bonnets, wings, badges, engines, and internal fittings like the seats and dash boards.
This owners site for the Wolsley 15/60, as in the OP's picture, is interesting:
http://www.co-oc.org/1560.html
PS Jereboam I can understand how you confused the smaller 15/60 model with it's larger brothers, as they looked similar at a distance. My father in law had a Austin Westminster version of those and it was gorgeous 8-) 8-)
Its a 16 /60 not a 15/60. look at the rear wings :y
Thanks BV, here is the picture reproduced:
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/lizziefreeman/Trains%20Planes%20Buses%20%20Cars/Wolsley1560.jpg)
Now compare the one off the 15/60 owners site:
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/lizziefreeman/Trains%20Planes%20Buses%20%20Cars/1560Profile.jpg)
I am trying to see the difference :-/ :-/ :D :D :D
The rear wings on the 15/60 point skywards whereas the 16/60 wings are more toned down. also the rear quarter bumper is longer on the 15/60 :y
Right, thanks BV! :y :y :y :y
We are into real car buff stuff here :D :D 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)
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...............and yes my memory was not playing tricks.
The same shell was used for the Morris, Austin, MG, Riley, and Wolsley; five in all using the basic BMC shell, but attaching on their bonnets, wings, badges, engines, and internal fittings like the seats and dash boards.
This owners site for the Wolsley 15/60, as in the OP's picture, is interesting:
http://www.co-oc.org/1560.html
PS Jereboam I can understand how you confused the smaller 15/60 model with it's larger brothers, as they looked similar at a distance. My father in law had a Austin Westminster version of those and it was gorgeous 8-) 8-)
Its a 16 /60 not a 15/60. look at the rear wings :y
Thanks BV, here is the picture reproduced:
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/lizziefreeman/Trains%20Planes%20Buses%20%20Cars/Wolsley1560.jpg)
Now compare the one off the 15/60 owners site:
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/lizziefreeman/Trains%20Planes%20Buses%20%20Cars/1560Profile.jpg)
I am trying to see the difference :-/ :-/ :D :D :D
The rear wings on the 15/60 point skywards whereas the 16/60 wings are more toned down. also the rear quarter bumper is longer on the 15/60 :y
Right, thanks BV! :y :y :y :y
We are into real car buff stuff here :D :D 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)
No problem ;) all the 1500 engined Farinas had tailfin style rear wings, when the 1622 engined models were introduced they were toned down a bit across the range.
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...............and yes my memory was not playing tricks.
The same shell was used for the Morris, Austin, MG, Riley, and Wolsley; five in all using the basic BMC shell, but attaching on their bonnets, wings, badges, engines, and internal fittings like the seats and dash boards.
This owners site for the Wolsley 15/60, as in the OP's picture, is interesting:
http://www.co-oc.org/1560.html
PS Jereboam I can understand how you confused the smaller 15/60 model with it's larger brothers, as they looked similar at a distance. My father in law had a Austin Westminster version of those and it was gorgeous 8-) 8-)
Its a 16 /60 not a 15/60. look at the rear wings :y
Thanks BV, here is the picture reproduced:
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/lizziefreeman/Trains%20Planes%20Buses%20%20Cars/Wolsley1560.jpg)
Now compare the one off the 15/60 owners site:
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/lizziefreeman/Trains%20Planes%20Buses%20%20Cars/1560Profile.jpg)
I am trying to see the difference :-/ :-/ :D :D :D
The rear wings on the 15/60 point skywards whereas the 16/60 wings are more toned down. also the rear quarter bumper is longer on the 15/60 :y
Right, thanks BV! :y :y :y :y
We are into real car buff stuff here :D :D 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)
No problem ;) all the 1500 engined Farinas had tailfin style rear wings, when the 1622 engined models were introduced they were toned down a bit across the range.
Yes, thinking about it that particular Farina styling was evident, albeit on a smaller scale, on my 1960 Farina bodied A40. It had these cute rear wings 8-) 8-) 8-)
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The 15/60 and 16/60 differences are similar to the A55/A60 Cambridge/Oxford styling changes. The earlier models had the slightly raised /higher tailfins as said whilst the 'later' models were more parallel, if you follow....
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Not a single Morris Minor, I'm very disappointed! :'( :'(
7th photo down Lee.
It's hiding to the left, dressed in police colours ::)
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The 15/60 and 16/60 differences are similar to the A55/A60 Cambridge/Oxford styling changes. The earlier models had the slightly raised /higher tailfins as said whilst the 'later' models were more parallel, if you follow....
Yes I now understand H, thanks :y :y :y
It is quite amazing thinking back how BMC so often used the basic floor pans and body shells for so many variants, with sometimes minute differences between models of each marque. The Mini range, 1100 range, the Maxi range, the range of this discussion, and the large Wolsley / Austin / Riley /MG cars, just off the top of my head, all were of the same basic mould but was replicated (expensive mistake?) across the marques. So poor basic, old fashioned designs, were repeated and kept going way beyond their sell by dates by BMC.
Then British Leyland produced the Allegro, Marina; I will not go on as it distresses me too much!! :'( :'( :'( I, and thousands / millions of others were driven over to buying Ford's as a result!! ::) ::) ::)
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Lovely pictures Optimist!! :y :y :y
Personally I love the Vauxhall Victor and the Austin Seven the most, but they are all gorgeous! :-* :-* :-* 8-) 8-)
Is it true that the mk3 cavalier was called that and not called the vectra A as it was in Europe, to avoid association with the Victor?
I really do not know Lisa, but no doubt someone on here will know! :D :D
All I can say is that there was a good 30+ years between the Victor and the Mk3 Cavalier ;) ;)
Yep last Cavalier was known as the Vectra A in other countries.
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Yup Mk3 Cavalier was the Vectra A
Mk2 Cav - Ascona C
Mk1 Cav - Ascona B
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Yup Mk3 Cavalier was the Vectra A
Mk2 Cav - Ascona C
Mk1 Cav - Ascona B
I had a pale blue 1600 Ascona B. Brilliant car, so much better looking than the Cavalier.
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Yup Mk3 Cavalier was the Vectra A
Mk2 Cav - Ascona C
Mk1 Cav - Ascona B
Thanks :y I heared that it was called Cavalier in the uk, to avoid being compared to the victor. Do you know if thats true? :)
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Yup Mk3 Cavalier was the Vectra A
Mk2 Cav - Ascona C
Mk1 Cav - Ascona B
I had a pale blue 1600 Ascona B. Brilliant car, so much better looking than the Cavalier.
You wanted the US spec one......fuel injected!
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Yup Mk3 Cavalier was the Vectra A
Mk2 Cav - Ascona C
Mk1 Cav - Ascona B
I had a pale blue 1600 Ascona B. Brilliant car, so much better looking than the Cavalier.
You wanted the US spec one......fuel injected!
Were they any better though, with all the emission control stuff fitted ? :-/
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Yup Mk3 Cavalier was the Vectra A
Mk2 Cav - Ascona C
Mk1 Cav - Ascona B
Thanks :y I heared that it was called Cavalier in the uk, to avoid being compared to the victor. Do you know if thats true? :)
I suspect its much more likely to be due to GM trying to gain UK market share and to do that they needed to try to convince the public that it was not a german designed car.......hence a different name and in the early cars, a few different engine types plus some front end variantions just about achieved this.
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Yup Mk3 Cavalier was the Vectra A
Mk2 Cav - Ascona C
Mk1 Cav - Ascona B
I had a pale blue 1600 Ascona B. Brilliant car, so much better looking than the Cavalier.
You wanted the US spec one......fuel injected!
Were they any better though, with all the emission control stuff fitted ? :-/
Supposidly so
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Taken from Wikipedia
The last Cavalier was introduced in October 1988 for the 1989 model year, being Vauxhall's version of the Opel Vectra "A", again available as a saloon and hatchback. There was no estate version in the Opel line-up, and as the Vectra was not going to be sold in Australia, there was no prospect of Vauxhall turning to Holden for a replacement. The Vectra name was not adopted at this model change as Vauxhall feared reviving memories of the much-maligned Vauxhall Victor. Early Victors had been viewed in some quarters as excessively corrosion prone,
I thought I'd heared it somewhere
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Excellent! Some lovely pics there, looks like a cracking show. As always the cars are a credit to thier owners & the love money time, heartache, empty wallet & full swearbox & coffee cups launched in frustration, not that many worlds away from running a Mig but every run out or meet & the admiring glances & comments make it all more than worthwhile plus the nostalgia & the fact they are a joy to drive I'll shut up now as i'm going sepia tinted...& i'm with Lizzie on my fave, the early F series Victor, pure car porn.
Thanks for the post, Guy. 8-)
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Taken from Wikipedia
The last Cavalier was introduced in October 1988 for the 1989 model year, being Vauxhall's version of the Opel Vectra "A", again available as a saloon and hatchback. There was no estate version in the Opel line-up, and as the Vectra was not going to be sold in Australia, there was no prospect of Vauxhall turning to Holden for a replacement. The Vectra name was not adopted at this model change as Vauxhall feared reviving memories of the much-maligned Vauxhall Victor. Early Victors had been viewed in some quarters as excessively corrosion prone,
I thought I'd heared it somewhere
Lol, never beleave everything you read on Wikipedia.
Could be true but I would of thought they would never have adopted the Vectra name if that was the case
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An interesting piece here on the Victor, including the rust issue:
(http://icnewcastle.icnetwork.co.uk/motors/classiccars/tm_headline=vauxhall-victor%26method=full%26objectid=18599388%26siteid=50081-name_page.html)
;) ;)
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Taken from Wikipedia
The last Cavalier was introduced in October 1988 for the 1989 model year, being Vauxhall's version of the Opel Vectra "A", again available as a saloon and hatchback. There was no estate version in the Opel line-up, and as the Vectra was not going to be sold in Australia, there was no prospect of Vauxhall turning to Holden for a replacement. The Vectra name was not adopted at this model change as Vauxhall feared reviving memories of the much-maligned Vauxhall Victor. Early Victors had been viewed in some quarters as excessively corrosion prone,
I thought I'd heared it somewhere
The early Victors were a far superior car for their day despite being rust prone, compared to the late FE victors which were crap to put it bluntly.
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Taken from Wikipedia
The last Cavalier was introduced in October 1988 for the 1989 model year, being Vauxhall's version of the Opel Vectra "A", again available as a saloon and hatchback. There was no estate version in the Opel line-up, and as the Vectra was not going to be sold in Australia, there was no prospect of Vauxhall turning to Holden for a replacement. The Vectra name was not adopted at this model change as Vauxhall feared reviving memories of the much-maligned Vauxhall Victor. Early Victors had been viewed in some quarters as excessively corrosion prone,
I thought I'd heared it somewhere
The early Victors were a far superior car for their day despite being rust prone, compared to the late FE victors which were crap to put it bluntly.
Whether it's right or wrong please let's not associate the godawfull Vectra with that lovely old Victor. Even if it's true i'd really rather not know!!! :(
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nice cars
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...............and yes my memory was not playing tricks.
The same shell was used for the Morris, Austin, MG, Riley, and Wolsley; five in all using the basic BMC shell, but attaching on their bonnets, wings, badges, engines, and internal fittings like the seats and dash boards.
This owners site for the Wolsley 15/60, as in the OP's picture, is interesting:
http://www.co-oc.org/1560.html
PS Jereboam I can understand how you confused the smaller 15/60 model with it's larger brothers, as they looked similar at a distance. My father in law had a Austin Westminster version of those and it was gorgeous 8-) 8-)
Its a 16 /60 not a 15/60. look at the rear wings :y
Thanks BV, here is the picture reproduced:
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/lizziefreeman/Trains%20Planes%20Buses%20%20Cars/Wolsley1560.jpg)
Now compare the one off the 15/60 owners site:
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/lizziefreeman/Trains%20Planes%20Buses%20%20Cars/1560Profile.jpg)
I am trying to see the difference :-/ :-/ :D :D :D
The rear wings on the 15/60 point skywards whereas the 16/60 wings are more toned down. also the rear quarter bumper is longer on the 15/60 :y
Right, thanks BV! :y :y :y :y
We are into real car buff stuff here :D :D 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)
No problem ;) all the 1500 engined Farinas had tailfin style rear wings, when the 1622 engined models were introduced they were toned down a bit across the range.
Yes, thinking about it that particular Farina styling was evident, albeit on a smaller scale, on my 1960 Farina bodied A40. It had these cute rear wings 8-) 8-) 8-)
As soon as I made the first post, I got that sinking feeling! :( :( :(
To be honest, I couldn't remember the name of the smaller Wolseley - I thought it must be 4/60 - following on from the classic 4/44. So I convinced myself that it was the bigger version, because i could remember the name of that one. But the more I looked at it, the more doubtful I became. I don't remember the 6/99 having the kink in the front bumper, but I've had a look at Google Images and it definitely does.
Sorry for doubting you, but at least it led to an interesting discussion. :)
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I love the TR's
I have always had a soft spot for the Mk2 Cav Convertibles
Yup me too, with the exception of the abomination they called the TR7 - what were they thinking of?! :-?
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I love the TR's
I have always had a soft spot for the Mk2 Cav Convertibles
Yup me too, with the exception of the abomination they called the TR7 - what were they thinking of?! :-?
Yep...Agreed.....As a ten year old I always lusted after a TR6.......... complete with a nineteen year old dolly bird in the passenger seat..... :)