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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: r1 on 13 October 2010, 09:47:55
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just opened the door on one of the units and its fallen off.had a look and the little grub screws have pulled out,so tried to screw them back in and the holes are now to big and the screws just pull out.
the unit is one of b@qs and about 3 years old
so any ideas anyone?is there some glue i can use or something as i havnt a clue about wood
cheers
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Use 2 part epoxy. Remove the door and lay it flat. Clean out the now oversize holes and 2/3's fill them with mixed epoxy. Fit the hinge and clamp it into the hole, then leave it the alloted time to set. Should be fine then :y
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I'm assuming you mean the screws that hold the hinges to the wood carcass of the cupboard (or the door) rather than the screws that hold one half of the hinge to the other.. if so then I think the only thing you can do now is move the hinges up/down the door and screw them on in a different location with some suitably sized screws (realistically, the same ones B&Q used, as they're quite 'fat' for bite but very short so they don't stick out the other side) - you'll need to drill appropriate holes for them.
Did they fall off the door side or the carcass side?
[edit] Or what Wellung said ;) I guess you could then drill & screw into the epoxy (I presume that's what you meant, Wellung? Rather than epoxy the hinges to the cupboard :D )
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yes its the hinge that goes inside the door.
cant move them as they not a normal hinge,they have a round bit thats about the size of a 10 pence that fits in the door.
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It's not a grub screw, it's a chip board screw. Use a bigger (fatter) one.
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It's not a grub screw, it's a chip board screw. Use a bigger (fatter) one.
or a longer one if it's into the side of the door, and try to get it to bite deeper. :y
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It's not a grub screw, it's a chip board screw. Use a bigger (fatter) one.
or a longer one if it's into the side of the door, and try to get it to bite deeper. :y
yes they are some sort of chipboard didnt know there where chipboard screws.will go ant see if i can get some fatter ones.
if i get longer ones im scared i might split the door :(
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if its just the screw holes then matchsticks with wood glue in them will sort it :y
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found this :y
http://www.wonderhowto.com/how-to-repair-stripped-screw-holes-wood-288585/
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I'm assuming you mean the screws that hold the hinges to the wood carcass of the cupboard (or the door) rather than the screws that hold one half of the hinge to the other.. if so then I think the only thing you can do now is move the hinges up/down the door and screw them on in a different location with some suitably sized screws (realistically, the same ones B&Q used, as they're quite 'fat' for bite but very short so they don't stick out the other side) - you'll need to drill appropriate holes for them.
Did they fall off the door side or the carcass side?
[edit] Or what Wellung said ;) I guess you could then drill & screw into the epoxy (I presume that's what you meant, Wellung? Rather than epoxy the hinges to the cupboard :D )
I meant epoxy the screws in to the door, not the whole hinge. Once the screws are in the eopxy and it sets there's no chance of getting them back out.
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I had this happen to me. All the various attempts at gluing etc didn't last. The only lasting fix was to replace the side panel, or if you don't mind the look, swap the 2 sides, which is what I did.
Take the unit out, carefully disasemble it, then, reasemble having swapped over the 2 sides, the hinge holes are now nice and new! you will have to re-drill the holes for the draw runners though.
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It's not a grub screw, it's a chip board screw. Use a bigger (fatter) one.
or a longer one if it's into the side of the door, and try to get it to bite deeper. :y
They are the correct length for the width of the side panel, any longer and they will protude about 1/16th inch, like your todger Skrunts. ;D
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Turn the door to open the opposite way ;)
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Turn the door to open the opposite way ;)
Unless it's a double unit, of course. Door would look a bit silly hanging from the divider. ;D
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heres the things i do depending on how bad the hole is.
drill it to take a rawlplug and glue the plug, then screw the hinge back on.
or i usually use these and come through from the other side of the cupboard.
http://www.screwfix.com/prods/65152/Fixings/Furniture-Fixings/Inter-Screw-M4-Pack-of-10
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well thanks for all the advice after much thought i decided to follow the match stick advice.now as i dont smoke i had a quick walk down the road to find some and 5 mins later job done :y
and best off all it was a FREE fix.
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Epoxy on its own is pretty brittle and has a tendency to crack and drop out. When repairing wood or chipboard, especially if planning to screw into the repair .... this is often the better way.
Find some old chipboard/soft timber and saw/file/coarse sand a small pile of coarse sawdust/chippings. Mix this with the epoxy to form a thick "paste". Force as much of that into the holes as you can. The idea being to get the paste into the surrounding wood as well as to fill the hole. Do NOT insert the screws. Leave to cure/dry for at least 24 hours. Sand /file any surface excess back to a flat surface. Drill the CORRECT size pilot hole. Fit unit and screws. Tighten firmly but do not overtighten.
The screws now have a wood/epoxy "mix" to bite on .. far more secure thabn pure epoxy.
HTH :)