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Title: Rodents......(Help please)
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 20 October 2010, 17:02:38
Went to fire the Omega up.......Engine caught then cut out.....and the spanner symbol starts flashing at me.

Opened the bonnet to find rat shit all over the engine...... and the little f***ers have chewed through these rubber pipes....along with all the sound insulation.

Any idea what it is and how much it will cost to replace?

Thanks.....Here's a picture of the damage. >:( >:( >:(
(http://i970.photobucket.com/albums/ae183/janbowles/ratomega.jpg)
Title: Re: Rodents......(Help please)
Post by: aaronjb on 20 October 2010, 17:04:24
That's part of the engine breather pipework .. I'd have expected it to still fire, though, but to run rough as hell - which makes me wonder if they've chewed through anything else while they were at it :(

Any codes stored that hint to sensor problems?
Title: Re: Rodents......(Help please)
Post by: Richie London on 20 October 2010, 17:11:29
apparently rats are a big problem at the moment, my mums rd has a severe problem, so has an estate in hayes which i'm told is real bad. still got them at my mums, ate through the plastic waste and came in the kitchen under the sink.
Title: Re: Rodents......(Help please)
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 20 October 2010, 17:20:10
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That's part of the engine breather pipework .. I'd have expected it to still fire, though, but to run rough as hell - which makes me wonder if they've chewed through anything else while they were at it :(

Any codes stored that hint to sensor problems?


Thanks .....I've got it going but it sounds a little rough.....any idea how far back these rubber tubes go......are they easy to replace?.....There does not seem a lot of room for my hand back there.. :-/
Title: Re: Rodents......(Help please)
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 20 October 2010, 17:24:18
Flashing engine symbol is an Immobiliser fault, have you opened the key recently or any sign of chewing to the wiring?
Title: Re: Rodents......(Help please)
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 20 October 2010, 17:30:00
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Flashing engine symbol is an Immobiliser fault, have you opened the key recently or any sign of chewing to the wiring?


No....and not that I can see Mark.....It seems to be starting a little better now......but runs a bit rough....It looks like they have chewed through just the one breather pipe..... :-/....Varmints.... :( :( :( :(
Title: Re: Rodents......(Help please)
Post by: Plomien on 20 October 2010, 18:23:57
time to bait some traps (or sit with an air rifle to keep an eye out  ;D ), they probably climbed into the engine to keep warm.
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Post by: david036 on 20 October 2010, 19:28:16
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Flashing engine symbol is an Immobiliser fault, have you opened the key recently or any sign of chewing to the wiring?

Wasn't this light also to say there's an ecu problem?
Title: Re: Rodents......(Help please)
Post by: albitz on 20 October 2010, 20:03:20
They are known to have habit of taking up residence up behind the dash, and having the wiring for breakfast dinner and tea. ::)
Title: Re: Rodents......(Help please)
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 20 October 2010, 20:23:20
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Flashing engine symbol is an Immobiliser fault, have you opened the key recently or any sign of chewing to the wiring?

Wasn't this light also to say there's an ecu problem?

Yes but, if it flashes its an immobiliser issue
Title: Re: Rodents......(Help please)
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 20 October 2010, 20:23:57
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Flashing engine symbol is an Immobiliser fault, have you opened the key recently or any sign of chewing to the wiring?

No....and not that I can see Mark.....It seems to be starting a little better now......but runs a bit rough....It looks like they have chewed through just the one breather pipe..... :-/....Varmints.... :( :( :( :(


Well the result will be an air leak and hence the rough running

Title: Re: Rodents......(Help please)
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 20 October 2010, 21:06:12
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Flashing engine symbol is an Immobiliser fault, have you opened the key recently or any sign of chewing to the wiring?

No....and not that I can see Mark.....It seems to be starting a little better now......but runs a bit rough....It looks like they have chewed through just the one breather pipe..... :-/....Varmints.... :( :( :( :(


Well the result will be an air leak and hence the rough running


Any idea how much it costs to replace these breather pipes?.......are they an easy fix?... :y
Title: Re: Rodents......(Help please)
Post by: feeutfo on 20 October 2010, 21:17:31
Easy to replace IMO, but no offence, those breather pipes haven't been off for a while have they?

So, with that and your questioning,  guessing car diy is not high on your list of hobbies. So will be a bit more fiddly than you would like, there is not much room at the back of the engine. The metal clip levers off with a screw driver, and both ends of the pipe are a push fit if iirc, although if that pipe goes to the breather box on the crank case then there may be a clip on that end also. Access will be fiddly. May as well follow the breather cleaning guide while your at it???
Title: Re: Rodents......(Help please)
Post by: feeutfo on 20 October 2010, 21:19:09
Also, I'm sure a wanted ad on here will source a pipe for little wedge.
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Post by: MaxV6 on 20 October 2010, 21:20:40
but mind you don;t snap the spigot the pipe pushes on to.....   

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Post by: cem_devecioglu on 20 October 2010, 21:22:31
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Flashing engine symbol is an Immobiliser fault, have you opened the key recently or any sign of chewing to the wiring?

No....and not that I can see Mark.....It seems to be starting a little better now......but runs a bit rough....It looks like they have chewed through just the one breather pipe..... :-/....Varmints.... :( :( :( :(


Well the result will be an air leak and hence the rough running


Any idea how much it costs to replace these breather pipes?.......are they an easy fix?... :y

nope.. working in the backside area of the engine is trouble imo..  :-/

for rodents you have two choices.. either put there some food so they wont eat your car or bring some cats.. but I'm afraid if they build a home somewhere in the car cats cant reach.. :(
Title: Re: Rodents......(Help please)
Post by: Radiomarko on 20 October 2010, 21:23:54
That's nasty optimist60, anywhere you can put a rat trap? I logged in to post about car eating bunnies then read your post..... :o
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Post by: feeutfo on 20 October 2010, 21:24:07
Where's the Major and his shot gun when you need him...."vermin Fawlty, vermin"  ;D  ;)
Title: Re: Rodents......(Help please)
Post by: skyblue on 20 October 2010, 22:17:03
A quick and easy way to repair this is to rap a bit of gaffa tap around em ..... jobs a good un ::)
Title: Re: Rodents......(Help please)
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 20 October 2010, 22:19:53
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Easy to replace IMO, but no offence, those breather pipes haven't been off for a while have they?

So, with that and your questioning,  guessing car diy is not high on your list of hobbies. So will be a bit more fiddly than you would like, there is not much room at the back of the engine. The metal clip levers off with a screw driver, and both ends of the pipe are a push fit if iirc, although if that pipe goes to the breather box on the crank case then there may be a clip on that end also. Access will be fiddly. May as well follow the breather cleaning guide while your at it???

Yep ..thanks for that...... I've sorted that part..... how far does the four into one breather pipe go down the back of the engine?......I can't feel the other push fit end to the rubber pipes....
Title: Re: Rodents......(Help please)
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 20 October 2010, 22:22:12
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A quick and easy way to repair this is to rap a bit of gaffa tap around em ..... jobs a good un ::)


Tempting.....very tempting.......and then off to the pub.... ::) ::) ;)
Title: Re: Rodents......(Help please)
Post by: skyblue on 20 October 2010, 22:24:48
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Easy to replace IMO, but no offence, those breather pipes haven't been off for a while have they?

So, with that and your questioning,  guessing car diy is not high on your list of hobbies. So will be a bit more fiddly than you would like, there is not much room at the back of the engine. The metal clip levers off with a screw driver, and both ends of the pipe are a push fit if iirc, although if that pipe goes to the breather box on the crank case then there may be a clip on that end also. Access will be fiddly. May as well follow the breather cleaning guide while your at it???

Yep ..thanks for that...... I've sorted that part..... how far does the four into one breather pipe go down the back of the engine?......I can't feel the other push fit end to the rubber pipes....
I found it easier to get a a platform to raise you a little higher from the ground to lower yourself onto that side of the engine as irs a fair way down and for some of ua with sort arms its a a little too far to reach without this platform
Title: Re: Rodents......(Help please)
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 20 October 2010, 22:25:46
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Flashing engine symbol is an Immobiliser fault, have you opened the key recently or any sign of chewing to the wiring?

No....and not that I can see Mark.....It seems to be starting a little better now......but runs a bit rough....It looks like they have chewed through just the one breather pipe..... :-/....Varmints.... :( :( :( :(


Well the result will be an air leak and hence the rough running


Any idea how much it costs to replace these breather pipes?.......are they an easy fix?... :y

nope.. working in the backside area of the engine is trouble imo..  :-/

for rodents you have two choices.. either put there some food so they wont eat your car or bring some cats.. but I'm afraid if they build a home somewhere in the car cats cant reach.. :(



I'll leave the cat under the bonnet tonight Cem.....just in case the vermin returns.... ::) ::) ::) ;)
Title: Re: Rodents......(Help please)
Post by: feeutfo on 20 October 2010, 22:26:56
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Easy to replace IMO, but no offence, those breather pipes haven't been off for a while have they?

So, with that and your questioning,  guessing car diy is not high on your list of hobbies. So will be a bit more fiddly than you would like, there is not much room at the back of the engine. The metal clip levers off with a screw driver, and both ends of the pipe are a push fit if iirc, although if that pipe goes to the breather box on the crank case then there may be a clip on that end also. Access will be fiddly. May as well follow the breather cleaning guide while your at it???

Yep ..thanks for that...... I've sorted that part..... how far does the four into one breather pipe go down the back of the engine?......I can't feel the other push fit end to the rubber pipes....
Two larger outside ones are two into one, and goes to breather box behind cylinder 5, twominner ones are single pipes, one also goes to breather box on a smaller spigot, other one goes to carbon canister via plastic pipe to drivers wing, so they all go down about 3inches then turn left round to the back of cylinder 5 nearest drivers seat.

Breather cleaning guide may help, does it?
Title: Re: Rodents......(Help please)
Post by: skyblue on 20 October 2010, 22:28:29
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A quick and easy way to repair this is to rap a bit of gaffa tap around em ..... jobs a good un ::)


Tempting.....very tempting.......and then off to the pub.... ::) ::) ;)

 Aslong as we can take your car to teast drive it... to make sure the fix has been completed to the highest standards of course ;)
Title: Re: Rodents......(Help please)
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 20 October 2010, 22:43:43
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Easy to replace IMO, but no offence, those breather pipes haven't been off for a while have they?

So, with that and your questioning,  guessing car diy is not high on your list of hobbies. So will be a bit more fiddly than you would like, there is not much room at the back of the engine. The metal clip levers off with a screw driver, and both ends of the pipe are a push fit if iirc, although if that pipe goes to the breather box on the crank case then there may be a clip on that end also. Access will be fiddly. May as well follow the breather cleaning guide while your at it???

Yep ..thanks for that...... I've sorted that part..... how far does the four into one breather pipe go down the back of the engine?......I can't feel the other push fit end to the rubber pipes....
Two larger outside ones are two into one, and goes to breather box behind cylinder 5, twominner ones are single pipes, one also goes to breather box on a smaller spigot, other one goes to carbon canister via plastic pipe to drivers wing, so they all go down about 3inches then turn left round to the back of cylinder 5 nearest drivers seat.

Breather cleaning guide may help, does it?


Ah yes thanks Chris.......I can see that now. Using a torch..... it looks like a four into one system. I only need to replace the two outside (2 into 1 breather pipes)...Any idea how much this should cost me?