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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Jim on 17 September 2006, 22:10:49
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Found this picture when surfing the net, thought it might be or interest:
(http://www.sutii.com/gallery/omega/7.jpg)
(http://www.sutii.com/gallery/omega/24v.jpg)
(http://www.sutii.com/gallery/omega/27.jpg)
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3.8 V6 turbo ..... hmmm, sounds suspiciously close to the spec of a lotus carlton engine to me!!
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look closer and it looks even more like Laidbacks 3.0 24v senator engine!
3.8 v6 my arse!!!
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look closer and it looks even more like Laidbacks 3.0 24v senator engine!
3.8 v6 my arse!!!
That's what I thought to!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Definately not a V6 and is of the Senator Carlton family
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;D ;D
Well the engine in the car is a completely standard 3.0 24v STRAIGHT 6 lump. ;)
The picture is of the rather modified top end you can get complete with a substantial supercharger!
However, I would not just drop that onto a standard C30se block... unless you fancy a full rebuild very soon afterwards! ;D
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anyone ever looked at putting a rover v8 into the meega?
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IMHO The middle picture is a photoshop, the scale is totally wrong on that C30SE..
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The supercharger conversion is absolutely real!
The supplier offers the full package for a full engine rebuild.
It seems a very good service, BUT it's very, very expensive. IIRC, the full tune up package including blower etc was somewhere just short of £4k, and only gave up to about 300 BHP.
The first and second pic's are of different cars. The straight six conversion has been done a lot, (particularly by Germans for some reason!!), and we even have a Lotus powered Omega 'B' GLS running around somewhere in Oxfordshire. (Still badged as a 2.0!! ;D )
I'd be interested to find out what's under the hood of the white one tho'!! :o
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Rover v8 - is it worth it as its about 265 bhp....( one in big latest mg zt`s from a mustang)
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I drove my uncles Pontiac Thunderbird in Canada which is a 3.8 (not turbo'd). It's part of GM & might go in an Omega?
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Rover v8 engine in an Omega? LOL. Only if I wanted it to break down very freqently!!!
The 'Rover' V8 was actually a Buick engine discontinued in 1955, at which point it was bought by Rover and has basically not changed much since.
I think I would rather stick with the damned good engines the Omegas have. Nothing wrong with them. Powerful enough, economical by comparrison to the rover lump and above all, very reliable with routine and properly done maintenance - ie NOT main dealer!!!!
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Rover v8 engine in an Omega? LOL. Only if I wanted it to break down very freqently!!!
The 'Rover' V8 was actually a Buick engine discontinued in 1955, at which point it was bought by Rover and has basically not changed much since.
GM stopped using it in 1963 after producing 750,000 units!!
The V8 engine used by , Rover, Land Rover, TVR, Morgan, Westfield, Marcos, MG etc etc is a damn good engine!
All alloy block makes it very very light and in the hands of TVR produce close on 300bhp from a 4 ltr block, bearing in mind the origional P6 (TC2000) only produce 140ish bhp, that an amazing acheivement.
I would def drop one in an Omega if i had the time and inclination, just need to decide what size ( 3.5, 3.9. 4.6 or 5ltr) as in sure itll be lot lighter than a GM sourced LS1 or LS2 engine!
Also helps that im quite good friends with someone who owns one of the only companies in the UK that can completely overhaul and repair the V8, so ive seen what one can do with a few minor tweaks :)
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Rover v8 engine in an Omega? LOL. Only if I wanted it to break down very freqently!!!
The 'Rover' V8 was actually a Buick engine discontinued in 1955, at which point it was bought by Rover and has basically not changed much since.
GM stopped using it in 1963 after producing 750,000 units!!
The V8 engine used by , Rover, Land Rover, TVR, Morgan, Westfield, Marcos, MG etc etc is a damn good engine!
All alloy block makes it very very light and in the hands of TVR produce close on 300bhp from a 4 ltr block, bearing in mind the origional P6 (TC2000) only produce 140ish bhp, that an amazing acheivement.
I would def drop one in an Omega if i had the time and inclination, just need to decide what size ( 3.5, 3.9. 4.6 or 5ltr) as in sure itll be lot lighter than a GM sourced LS1 or LS2 engine!
Also helps that im quite good friends with someone who owns one of the only companies in the UK that can completely overhaul and repair the V8, so ive seen what one can do with a few minor tweaks :)
I had a 240 BHP 3.9 in a TR7 convertible about 10 years ago. Me and a mate went to watch Le Mans and had one of the best holidays I have ever had. Then I met the misses and the two seater and the fun had to go :'(
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I had a 240 BHP 3.9 in a TR7 convertible about 10 years ago. Me and a mate went to watch Le Mans and had one of the best holidays I have ever had. Then I met the misses and the two seater and the fun had to go :'(
Without wanting to split hairs but thats actually a TR8 ;D ;D
It would have been a 3.5 from the factory, but thats the beauty of this engine in the same space you can have the 3.5, 3.9. 4.6 or a 5ltr!!
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I had a 240 BHP 3.9 in a TR7 convertible about 10 years ago. Me and a mate went to watch Le Mans and had one of the best holidays I have ever had. Then I met the misses and the two seater and the fun had to go :'(
Without wanting to split hairs but thats actually a TR8 ;D ;D
It would have been a 3.5 from the factory, but thats the beauty of this engine in the same space you can have the 3.5, 3.9. 4.6 or a 5ltr!!
The TR8 was the genuine artical as left the factory. Mine was a TR7 which left the factory as a 2.0 and was converted to the V8. You see them about as TR7 V8s, IMO they all should have had the V8 or the Dolly Sprint 16 valver which was produced as the TR7 Sprint but in limited numbers.
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Definatly a sennie engine
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All alloy block makes it very very light and in the hands of TVR produce close on 300bhp from a 4 ltr block, bearing in mind the origional P6 (TC2000) only produce 140ish bhp, that an amazing acheivement.
My P6 V8, (not the twin carburetted 2.0), pushed out 174 off the shelf. Not great from such a big engine, but it was the same output at some of the yank engines with twice the displacement of the era.
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Jeez some deep diving to find this one and drag it kicking and screaming to the surface!!! ;D
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Rover v8 engine in an Omega? LOL. Only if I wanted it to break down very freqently!!!
The 'Rover' V8 was actually a Buick engine discontinued in 1955, at which point it was bought by Rover and has basically not changed much since.
I think I would rather stick with the damned good engines the Omegas have. Nothing wrong with them. Powerful enough, economical by comparrison to the rover lump and above all, very reliable with routine and properly done maintenance - ie NOT main dealer!!!!
I hope it's okay to post in this thread because i can relate.
I think you are right buick is still a buick i would rather choose omega engines as well. also for the car parts, omega car parts are obviously better than - spammer crap deleted by admin - sorry i have a bad experience with buick cars.
Why have you dragged out a post from 2006? :o
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Jeez some deep diving to find this one and drag it kicking and screaming to the surface!!! ;D
Not really, Omega Turbo would seaily highlight this one. :y
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Rover v8 engine in an Omega? LOL. Only if I wanted it to break down very freqently!!!
The 'Rover' V8 was actually a Buick engine discontinued in 1955, at which point it was bought by Rover and has basically not changed much since.
I think I would rather stick with the damned good engines the Omegas have. Nothing wrong with them. Powerful enough, economical by comparrison to the rover lump and above all, very reliable with routine and properly done maintenance - ie NOT main dealer!!!!
I hope it's okay to post in this thread because i can relate.
I think you are right buick is still a buick i would rather choose omega engines as well. also for the car parts, omega car parts are obviously better than - spammer crap deleted by admin - sorry i have a bad experience with buick cars.
Why have you dragged out a post from 2006? :o
That was good tunnie, now they have deleted thier post. :-/
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:y
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I would like to have seen the original pics.
Have seen the ones of the "2.0 GLS" would be interesting to see other turbo and superchaged mig's tho.
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3.8 V6 turbo ..... hmmm, sounds suspiciously close to the spec of a lotus carlton engine to me!!
lotus Carlton is 3.6 straight 6
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anyone ever looked at putting a rover v8 into the meega?
Why bother?
Anything north of 275bhp is going to start costing silly money.
Surely it would be better to throw in one of the supercharged 3.8 V6 Holden / Chevy lumps out of the Holden Commodore VT / VX and Buick Regal. Especially as the Commodore VT and Omega 'B' are pretty much the same car underneath IIRC?
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I would like to have seen the original pics.
Have seen the ones of the "2.0 GLS" would be interesting to see other turbo and superchaged mig's tho.
Google L67 Supercharged. Specificly Commodores.
And here's a website catering for transplanting these 3.8 supercharged V6's. In fact, I cant see any reason why these shouldn't be a pretty straight forward bolt-in job on the Omegas?
http://www.motorswap.org/
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Rover v8 engine in an Omega? LOL. Only if I wanted it to break down very freqently!!!
The 'Rover' V8 was actually a Buick engine discontinued in 1955, at which point it was bought by Rover and has basically not changed much since.
All alloy block makes it very very light and in the hands of TVR produce close on 300bhp from a 4 ltr block.
I hate to burst your bubble here Phill, but TVR quoted a rather optermistic 240bhp for the 4.0 HC's. In truth they were little over 200bhp.
The 420SEAC's, and 4.3BV Griffs had closer to 250-260bhp, but these engines had quite a few trick bits inside them, and if memory serves me correctly, were made by Andy Rouse.
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Rover v8 engine in an Omega? LOL. Only if I wanted it to break down very freqently!!!
The 'Rover' V8 was actually a Buick engine discontinued in 1955, at which point it was bought by Rover and has basically not changed much since.
All alloy block makes it very very light and in the hands of TVR produce close on 300bhp from a 4 ltr block.
I hate to burst your bubble here Phill, but TVR quoted a rather optermistic 240bhp for the 4.0 HC's. In truth they were little over 200bhp.
The 420SEAC's, and 4.3BV Griffs had closer to 250-260bhp, but these engines had quite a few trick bits inside them, and if memory serves me correctly, were made by Andy Rouse.
Plus from what I remember where not the most realibale car in the world (some models at least)
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I would like to have seen the original pics.
Have seen the ones of the "2.0 GLS" would be interesting to see other turbo and superchaged mig's tho.
anyone still got the pics of this? believe it or not they were on my old computer which i left in uk and my son threw it out!!!
they were on showoff your car but thats one down so i havent any of them left!!! doh!!!!
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Found this picture when surfing the net, thought it might be or interest:
(http://www.sutii.com/gallery/omega/7.jpg)
(http://www.sutii.com/gallery/omega/24v.jpg)
(http://www.sutii.com/gallery/omega/27.jpg)
I don't see any pictures, but when quoting see the img image codes :-? :-?
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Rover v8 engine in an Omega? LOL. Only if I wanted it to break down very freqently!!!
The 'Rover' V8 was actually a Buick engine discontinued in 1955, at which point it was bought by Rover and has basically not changed much since.
All alloy block makes it very very light and in the hands of TVR produce close on 300bhp from a 4 ltr block.
I hate to burst your bubble here Phill, but TVR quoted a rather optermistic 240bhp for the 4.0 HC's. In truth they were little over 200bhp.
The 420SEAC's, and 4.3BV Griffs had closer to 250-260bhp, but these engines had quite a few trick bits inside them, and if memory serves me correctly, were made by Andy Rouse.
Plus from what I remember where not the most realibale car in the world (some models at least)
That's a very sore subject, and one best to not get me started on :(
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this topic is kinda confusing already specially when i read the spammers message it makes me laugh.LOL