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Watched "When Bob met Harvey" a drama about the Bob Geldof and Harvey Goldstein putting the Live Aid concert together featuring the least convincing Paul McCartney since "The Frog Chorus". What was interesting (and later confirmed in the documentary that followed) was that until Geldof went on air and ranted for people to "give us yer f******* money!!" it wasn't taking many donations, that moment literally jump started the cash flooding in and Live Aid went on to raise £80m :o
its astonishing what it achieved and what that day felt like - it felt like we genuinely had the power to right wrongs - i doubt today it could be done, no one taking a penny from artists and management, marketing, tickets, staging (Bruce Springsteen left his stage up from the weeks previous Wembley gig) to catering - too many suits now wanting a cut. Thing is it wasn't wholly philanthropic: Queen famously trebled sales of their back catalogue and U2 went global overnight - very smart :y
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i have never watched live aid at all but the way i see it is anyone who plays at charity concerts do it mainly for there own personal gain and credibilty as record sales have proved in the past. i would never donate to a charity where the money goes out of this country anyay.
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i have never watched live aid at all but the way i see it is anyone who plays at charity concerts do it mainly for there own personal gain and credibilty as record sales have proved in the past. i would never donate to a charity where the money goes out of this country anyay.
we're not a third world country, anyone in a position to help has a moral obligation in my opinion and we built an empire by exploiting many of the countries now requiring aid - so if anyone should pay - its us in the UK :y
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went to the original live aid concert and -despite some obvious commercialization-there certainly was a vibe that the money would get to the right pople and that we could "change the world" a little bit. of course we were much younger then and less cynical and worldly but still to this day dont doubt Geldoff's intentions. Dont forget of course that this had sort of been done before by George Harrison's Concert for Bangladesh and, again, dont doubt his good intentions -nor those of the Taxman who claimed their cut either!
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i have never watched live aid at all but the way i see it is anyone who plays at charity concerts do it mainly for there own personal gain and credibilty as record sales have proved in the past. i would never donate to a charity where the money goes out of this country anyay.
we're not a third world country, anyone in a position to help has a moral obligation in my opinion and we built an empire by exploiting many of the countries now requiring aid - so if anyone should pay - its us in the UK :y
Agreed.
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Watched "When Bob met Harvey" a drama about the Bob Geldof and Harvey Goldstein putting the Live Aid concert together featuring the least convincing Paul McCartney since "The Frog Chorus". What was interesting (and later confirmed in the documentary that followed) was that until Geldof went on air and ranted for people to "give us yer f******* money!!" it wasn't taking many donations, that moment literally jump started the cash flooding in and Live Aid went on to raise £80m :o
its astonishing what it achieved and what that day felt like - it felt like we genuinely had the power to right wrongs - i doubt today it could be done, no one taking a penny from artists and management, marketing, tickets, staging (Bruce Springsteen left his stage up from the weeks previous Wembley gig) to catering - too many suits now wanting a cut. Thing is it wasn't wholly philanthropic: Queen famously trebled sales of their back catalogue and U2 went global overnight - very smart :y
He never said "give us your effing money thats an urban myth.
He also never said "f*** the post office as the docudrama claimed.
The presenter interrupted him to say it was time to give out the phone number and he said "f*** the number". ;)
He did however get taken to the palace of the Ethiopian leader (emporer ?) and looked him straight in the eyes and called him a c***. Which in the circumstances was fair enough imo. :)
I also think that this was a great event and was for a genuinely great cause. Geldof was shrewd enough to realise that if the money went to the usual charity route most of it would be wasted on admin and "charidee careerists" wages etc.
He also knew how corrupt the African govts. are so he set up a completely independent supply chain which bypassed all the normal routes and went straight to where help was most needed.
The frankly ludicrous leftist guilt trip nonsense about us being responsible for the past of our forefathers is just ridiculous. That was the way the world was run then, get over it. I feel no guilt for what my forefathers may or may not have done. I dont for example need the moronic Bishop of Liverpool apoligising on my behalf for this countries past role in the slave trade - he conveniently forgot to mention this countries even bigger role in its abolition. The empire was a long time ago and the countries involved have been given endless amounts of aid etc. from this country, but they have been mostly corrupt communist tinpot dictatorships which have wasted and stolen the money and not used it for the common good. The most recent example of this being Zimbabwe.The UK is by no means alone in having an imperial past, most major European nations had Empires, but ours was bigger and better run as well as in the main being more philanthropic than the others.
The one and only reason I gave on that day was the fact that I had seen on TV fellow human beings starving to death, and its only human to try to help. I dont understand how anyone wouldnt have been moved by the news footage of the biblical famine in Ethiopia. ;)
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Watched "When Bob met Harvey" a drama about the Bob Geldof and Harvey Goldstein putting the Live Aid concert together featuring the least convincing Paul McCartney since "The Frog Chorus". What was interesting (and later confirmed in the documentary that followed) was that until Geldof went on air and ranted for people to "give us yer f******* money!!" it wasn't taking many donations, that moment literally jump started the cash flooding in and Live Aid went on to raise £80m :o
its astonishing what it achieved and what that day felt like - it felt like we genuinely had the power to right wrongs - i doubt today it could be done, no one taking a penny from artists and management, marketing, tickets, staging (Bruce Springsteen left his stage up from the weeks previous Wembley gig) to catering - too many suits now wanting a cut. Thing is it wasn't wholly philanthropic: Queen famously trebled sales of their back catalogue and U2 went global overnight - very smart :y
He never said "give us your effing money thats an urban myth.
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I must say Albs that is not how I remember the interview going when I was watching it. I am sure he said "Give us your oppsing money!" when he became aggitated and extra committed, and it was not during the interview noted on the internet that you quote ;) ;)
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I saw the footage on TV last night, where they showed exactly what he said. They also inerviewed him, and he was laughing about the fact that it is the thing he is most famous for saying when he didnt actually say it.
The programme is probably on iplayer if anyone wants to watch it. It was very interesting imo. :y
Heres the footage of what he actually said.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezzmrxXh0oQ
It was actually "f*** the address, lets get the numbers"
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I saw the footage on TV last night, where they showed exactly what he said. They also inerviewed him, and he was laughing about the fact that it is the thing he is most famous for saying when he didnt actually say it.
The programme is probably on iplayer if anyone wants to watch it. It was cery interesting imo. :y
Ok Albs, my memory must be playing tricks! ;D ;D :y :y
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Oh, and the most effective use of the F word ever has to be Peter Capaldi playing Malcolm Tucker (based on Alistair Cambell) in "The thick of it" or its accompanying film "In the loop". ;)
NWS!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LugJd6uGJqI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXmcGdGe6ak&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhxMNRAmXGg&NR=1
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Of course, he does have some serious competition from his best friend - Jamie "the angriest man in Scotland" macdonald. ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzszTRCoj44&NR=1
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I saw the footage on TV last night, where they showed exactly what he said. They also inerviewed him, and he was laughing about the fact that it is the thing he is most famous for saying when he didnt actually say it.
The programme is probably on iplayer if anyone wants to watch it. It was cery interesting imo. :y
Ok Albs, my memory must be playing tricks! ;D ;D :y :y
Albs is right, its misquoted I would have sworn (no pun intended) that he said "Give us yer f****** money" , but it was mybe down to a headline in a paper, a misquote or an impersonator "doin" Geldof
(probably the dismal Bobby Davro or some such) :y
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I saw the footage on TV last night, where they showed exactly what he said. They also inerviewed him, and he was laughing about the fact that it is the thing he is most famous for saying when he didnt actually say it.
The programme is probably on iplayer if anyone wants to watch it. It was cery interesting imo. :y
Ok Albs, my memory must be playing tricks! ;D ;D :y :y
Albs is as always right, its misquoted I would have sworn (no pun intended) that he said "Give us yer f****** money" , but it was mybe down to a headline in a paper, a misquote or an impersonator "doin" Geldof
(probably the dismal Bobby Davro or some such) :y
Nice of you to say so Banjax. :y ;D
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I saw the footage on TV last night, where they showed exactly what he said. They also inerviewed him, and he was laughing about the fact that it is the thing he is most famous for saying when he didnt actually say it.
The programme is probably on iplayer if anyone wants to watch it. It was cery interesting imo. :y
Ok Albs, my memory must be playing tricks! ;D ;D :y :y
Albs is as always right-wing, its misquoted I would have sworn (no pun intended) that he said "Give us yer f****** money" , but it was mybe down to a headline in a paper, a misquote or an impersonator "doin" Geldof
(probably the dismal Bobby Davro or some such) :y
Nice of you to say so Banjax. :y ;D
you're welcome :y
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Right wing ? me ? dont know how you got that idea :-/
;D ;D :y
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I've deliberately not got incolved in this thread as my personal opinion of Geldof and his begging cap would probably get me banned. But I thought I'd post a link to the interview with the original presenter of the first 'Live Aid' in the Daily Mirror...
http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/news/2010/12/27/the-urban-myth-of-sir-bob-geldof-s-legendary-live-aid-outburst-115875-22809066/