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Title: PC tv out
Post by: geoffr70 on 28 December 2010, 22:43:28
Hello, I've just got a new tv and it's got a socket where you can connect your pc.

My pc has a tv out socket and I've connected it all up. The tv knows it's connected but is receiving no signal. Does anyone know how I can get the signal activated to the tv? Thanks
Title: Re: PC tv out
Post by: redelitev6 on 28 December 2010, 22:49:01
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Hello, I've just got a new tv and it's got a socket where you can connect your pc.

My pc has a tv out socket and I've connected it all up. The tv knows it's connected but is receiving no signal. Does anyone know how I can get the signal activated to the tv? Thanks
Might have to flick through menu to find the right chanel,most tv's won't change inputs automatically
Title: Re: PC tv out
Post by: geoffr70 on 28 December 2010, 22:54:20
Thanks for replying but I've done that.

I've changed the input to pc and it knows it's connected but says no signal, so I'm thinking I have to do something on my laptop to activate the signal from the pc or something but don't know how!

Thanks!
Title: Re: PC tv out
Post by: Plomien on 28 December 2010, 22:59:30
in the graphics settings look for dual monitor, make of laptop and gfx may also help :y
Title: Re: PC tv out
Post by: Debs. on 28 December 2010, 23:04:21
The tv will become a 'second display'.....so, you`d need to configure it in the O/S display options.....doing so you can chose what is displayed, what size/aspect and even move things/objects from one display (desktop) to the other.
I tried it and the Tv wasn`t recognised automatically (under Vista) and lack of video-sound was an issue when viewing via the Tv monitor.
IIRC, switching back from watching via the Tv to watching via the lap-top monitor, caused some problems which I could only resolve with a reboot.:-/
Title: Re: PC tv out
Post by: geoffr70 on 29 December 2010, 00:07:32
Thanks everyone for your replies. Think I'll go back to my old fat tv. These new skinny ones are rubbish, the picture is weird and the sound is absolutely terrible. The tv out doesn't work and the tv is crap.

These companies just think of something else for us all to buy and tell us that we need it, when what we have is good enough if not better. Another waste of money
Title: Re: PC tv out
Post by: geoffr70 on 29 December 2010, 00:13:05
and the stupid thing doesn't even tell you what's on automatically like my digibox and fat tv does, and why when you get something brand new you still get one of those crappy remote controls that's about the size of a house brick and look about 50 million years old
Title: Re: PC tv out
Post by: tunnie on 29 December 2010, 08:14:52
Sounds like you've just bought a kak TV, or its not been setup right!
Title: Re: PC tv out
Post by: blackviper90210 on 29 December 2010, 08:30:17
What leads are you using to connect the pc?
If you are using HDMi, it will automatically detect the laptop/pc, providing you turn your digibox/skybox off, if its sharing the same HDMi port.
If your using DVi, again, that should auto detect, but in this case, you must tell your pc to use the "2nd monitor" in the graphics display menu on your pc.
Regarding audio, I found that using HDMi, I have to change the sound setting on my laptop, telling it to send the audio via the HDMi, otherwise it will only come through your laptop. This will be found in the "sound" settings in the control panel.

Hope this helps. Dave
Title: Re: PC tv out
Post by: geoffr70 on 29 December 2010, 09:13:10
Where's the graphics display menu? If it's in control panel I can't find it, although I am on xp anyway!

I've got a d-sub cable I think it's called. A blue plug with 15 pins that you have to screw in, like the really old printer cables. The tv knows it's there but says there is no signal. I assumed because I had a tv out socket it would work orbe activated but can't find the graphics display menu on pc.

As for the sound not being set up right, I don't think it's that. It's a samsung tv which I know is meant to be of reasonable quality but this is absolute cack. The speakers are at the back, and there is no bass response whatsoever resulting in an awful tinny sound that is unbearable, and due to the empty sound it is very hard to understand what people are saying. If you turn up the bass and/or the volume to only s third it results in clipping (commonly but incorrectly referred to as distortion). My old samsung fat tv is 10 times better than this. Im more of a sound than vision person, but this is absolutely atrocious and i just can't believe that a make, held in high regard such as samsung can sell this quality of stuff and think it's acceptable. What's worse is that people put up with it.

Well as it's a gift I'll have to try and get the receipt and take it back. Utter rubbish. Not only that i prefer the picture from my old tv.
Title: Re: PC tv out
Post by: Plomien on 29 December 2010, 09:39:17
normally a right click on the desktop will bring up a graphics option.
sometimes you have to do a certain button press to get the screen on the TV.
Depending on what input you have on the tv the picture quality may not look that good but if you go through hdmi (HD) then it will improve no end.
I also have a samsung and after a few tweaks have got the sound coming out nicely. again it depends on the model. If you are more concerned with sound quality then it may be worth looking at surround sound :y
Title: Re: PC tv out
Post by: geoffr70 on 29 December 2010, 09:54:45
Oh yeah thanks I right clicked on the desktop got the menu up and it's gone straight to my tv! The taskbar is missing off the bottom though.

It's still going back, the quality of this thing is terrible.
Title: Re: PC tv out
Post by: geoffr70 on 29 December 2010, 09:59:25
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normally a right click on the desktop will bring up a graphics option.
sometimes you have to do a certain button press to get the screen on the TV.
Depending on what input you have on the tv the picture quality may not look that good but if you go through hdmi (HD) then it will improve no end.
I also have a samsung and after a few tweaks have got the sound coming out nicely. again it depends on the model. If you are more concerned with sound quality then it may be worth looking at surround sound :y

I think surround sound is one of the worst things ever invented. I don't like it. It's far too loud and I feel sorry for all the people who live next to people with surround sound.

In any case, there is a surround 'feature' on this tv (it's a Samsung P2270HD), but the speakers are so tinny and rubbish, I'm so angry that they think it's acceptable to sell this kind of rubbish. No doubt it will be a battle to get a refund.

But having said that, if a product isn't upto standard, it is wrong to have to buy other things to make it acceptable
Title: Re: PC tv out
Post by: Chris_H on 29 December 2010, 11:17:47
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Where's the graphics display menu? If it's in control panel I can't find it, although I am on xp anyway!

I've got a d-sub cable I think it's called. A blue plug with 15 pins that you have to screw in, like the really old printer cables. The tv knows it's there but says there is no signal. I assumed because I had a tv out socket it would work orbe activated but can't find the graphics display menu on pc.

As for the sound not being set up right, I don't think it's that. It's a samsung tv which I know is meant to be of reasonable quality but this is absolute cack. The speakers are at the back, and there is no bass response whatsoever resulting in an awful tinny sound that is unbearable, and due to the empty sound it is very hard to understand what people are saying. If you turn up the bass and/or the volume to only s third it results in clipping (commonly but incorrectly referred to as distortion). My old samsung fat tv is 10 times better than this. Im more of a sound than vision person, but this is absolutely atrocious and i just can't believe that a make, held in high regard such as samsung can sell this quality of stuff and think it's acceptable. What's worse is that people put up with it.

Well as it's a gift I'll have to try and get the receipt and take it back. Utter rubbish. Not only that i prefer the picture from my old tv.
Clipping is correctly described as distortion.  In fact it is odd-harmonic distortion, primarily third harmonic.

I have a Samsung flat-panel tv and am not happy with it although I have decided to live with it for now.  It sometimes manages to get its Freeview decoder into a state where the sound is tinny and echoey.  A powerdown is needed to resolve this.

It is the second one I owned as I bounced the first one for vision problems but the replacement is the same.  CowboysTechnicians came and switched off Dynamic Contrast at the request of Samsung to minimise the vision fault.
Nuff said.
Title: Re: PC tv out
Post by: Martin_1962 on 29 December 2010, 11:18:06
Hmm we now have an LCD TV.

It replaced a rather good CRT TV.

However it cost a lot so I did expect it to have a better picture and it does.

Sound - apart from TV I route via a HC receiver and HiFi speakers.
Title: Re: PC tv out
Post by: geoffr70 on 29 December 2010, 12:48:10
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Where's the graphics display menu? If it's in control panel I can't find it, although I am on xp anyway!

I've got a d-sub cable I think it's called. A blue plug with 15 pins that you have to screw in, like the really old printer cables. The tv knows it's there but says there is no signal. I assumed because I had a tv out socket it would work orbe activated but can't find the graphics display menu on pc.

As for the sound not being set up right, I don't think it's that. It's a samsung tv which I know is meant to be of reasonable quality but this is absolute cack. The speakers are at the back, and there is no bass response whatsoever resulting in an awful tinny sound that is unbearable, and due to the empty sound it is very hard to understand what people are saying. If you turn up the bass and/or the volume to only s third it results in clipping (commonly but incorrectly referred to as distortion). My old samsung fat tv is 10 times better than this. Im more of a sound than vision person, but this is absolutely atrocious and i just can't believe that a make, held in high regard such as samsung can sell this quality of stuff and think it's acceptable. What's worse is that people put up with it.

Well as it's a gift I'll have to try and get the receipt and take it back. Utter rubbish. Not only that i prefer the picture from my old tv.
Clipping is correctly described as distortion.  In fact it is odd-harmonic distortion, primarily third harmonic.

I have a Samsung flat-panel tv and am not happy with it although I have decided to live with it for now.  It sometimes manages to get its Freeview decoder into a state where the sound is tinny and echoey.  A powerdown is needed to resolve this.

It is the second one I owned as I bounced the first one for vision problems but the replacement is the same.  CowboysTechnicians came and switched off Dynamic Contrast at the request of Samsung to minimise the vision fault.
Nuff said.

Clipping isn't correctly described as distortion. Distortion is a misnomer. Clipping is where the ampifier isn't capable of delivering the specified power to the speakers. This results in peak output not being delivered, and a broken sound, which many people think is too much power being delivered to the speakers causing poor sound, and then incorrectly call it distortion.
Title: Re: PC tv out
Post by: Chris_H on 29 December 2010, 13:23:33
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Where's the graphics display menu? If it's in control panel I can't find it, although I am on xp anyway!

I've got a d-sub cable I think it's called. A blue plug with 15 pins that you have to screw in, like the really old printer cables. The tv knows it's there but says there is no signal. I assumed because I had a tv out socket it would work orbe activated but can't find the graphics display menu on pc.

As for the sound not being set up right, I don't think it's that. It's a samsung tv which I know is meant to be of reasonable quality but this is absolute cack. The speakers are at the back, and there is no bass response whatsoever resulting in an awful tinny sound that is unbearable, and due to the empty sound it is very hard to understand what people are saying. If you turn up the bass and/or the volume to only s third it results in clipping (commonly but incorrectly referred to as distortion). My old samsung fat tv is 10 times better than this. Im more of a sound than vision person, but this is absolutely atrocious and i just can't believe that a make, held in high regard such as samsung can sell this quality of stuff and think it's acceptable. What's worse is that people put up with it.

Well as it's a gift I'll have to try and get the receipt and take it back. Utter rubbish. Not only that i prefer the picture from my old tv.
Clipping is correctly described as distortion.  In fact it is odd-harmonic distortion, primarily third harmonic.

I have a Samsung flat-panel tv and am not happy with it although I have decided to live with it for now.  It sometimes manages to get its Freeview decoder into a state where the sound is tinny and echoey.  A powerdown is needed to resolve this.

It is the second one I owned as I bounced the first one for vision problems but the replacement is the same.  CowboysTechnicians came and switched off Dynamic Contrast at the request of Samsung to minimise the vision fault.
Nuff said.

Clipping isn't correctly described as distortion. Distortion is a misnomer. Clipping is where the ampifier isn't capable of delivering the specified power to the speakers. This results in peak output not being delivered, and a broken sound, which many people think is too much power being delivered to the speakers causing poor sound, and then incorrectly call it distortion.
We're obviously going to have to agree to disagree on this one.

Clipping can happen long before it gets to the speakers and usually happens due to the signal being greater than the supply voltage to the stage (roughly speaking).  Distortion is ANY unwanted difference in signal between input and output.
Title: Re: PC tv out
Post by: Brikhead on 29 December 2010, 15:49:55
My understanding of clipping is when the input level to the amp is too high.
Distortion, I would say, is when the amp is delivering more power than the speakers can handle.

I happen to have a Samsung L.C.D. T.V. and agree that the sound quality is poor, obviously in the older C.R.T. tellies there's more room for bigger speakers, plus more room for the sound to resonate behind the speaker.
The sound quality is bearable but occasionally we switch on the amp, only an old JVC thing but it does the job.

I'm happy with the picture quality from the set, no issues from the in-built freeview even though the aerial signal is not the best, and it's connected to the computer (sorry P.C. ... I'm just catching up, this is my first computer since my Commodore 64!) via a 15 meter HDMI cable so I can view HD content such asMILF college girls 12the B.B.C. HD channel.

If your p.c. has a separate graphics card I'd try and update the software via the manufacturers website, any problems I've had when connecting to different displays have been down to the graphic cards software.