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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Amigo on 24 December 2010, 17:14:07
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A mate used to have a black manual MV6, we had the only two in Ming Mong (Immingham). He had his 7 or 8 years & loved it. (Well why would'nt he?) It's still going strong in the Notts. area on an R plate, think the last two letters are VT. Anyway obviously being a man of taste he's replaced the MV6 with a new black VXR8...& why not? I was on the M180 heading into Grimsby following some nondescript car bored @ 80 ish when something flew up behind me & braked hard, i saw the HSV plate & pulled over to let him through then tucked in behind. Over the roundabout onto an urban 50mph limit dual carriageway with another roundabout at the end. I hit 115 & he was away, god knows how fast he was going before i caught him up @ the roundabout. The sound of the thing was jaw dropping. We've all seen them on telly etc but the presence they have up close is incredible.
Still be the Monaro for me in a few years time as they're 2 door. ALL cars look better with 2 doors!!! 8-)
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Yup, few years down line I am going to have to get a Monaro 8-)
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I don't want you to take this the wrong way Guy but is it sensible to drive at those speeds on public roads? - Just a comment, nothing judgemental.
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I don't want you to take this the wrong way Guy but is it sensible to drive at those speeds on public roads? - Just a comment, nothing judgemental.
No offence taken mate as you're quite right. It's not a pedestrian area ie no pavements more of a throughfare with no entrances or exits either side but i accept a car innocently changing lanes @ 50mph could've been messy & i was in the wrong.
Some of us don't feel the need to drive fast, some of us can't resist it at times....not very often but you make a fair point. Guy. :y
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I don't want you to take this the wrong way Guy but is it sensible to drive at those speeds on public roads? - Just a comment, nothing judgemental.
No offence taken mate as you're quite right. It's not a pedestrian area ie no pavements more of a throughfare with no entrances or exits either side but i accept a car innocently changing lanes @ 50mph could've been messy & i was in the wrong.
Some of us don't feel the need to drive fast, some of us can't resist it at times....not very often but you make a fair point. Guy. :y
Well said G. 8-) :-* :y
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I like the VXR8's 4 door; it makes a good daily commute - so I bought one :-)
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I like the VXR8's 4 door; it makes a good daily commute - so I bought one :-)
& good on you for doing so old chap. VXR8's are gorgeuous as is my humble MV6 which is of course also a 4 door.
I simply think 2 door cars lok sexier than thier 4 door counterparts hence when the time comes it'll be Monaro all the way for me. Guy. :y
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I also like the 2 door sat up. The doors are generally longer as well which adds to the lines of a car.
My old pontiac was a 2 door, seated 6 no probs, and passngers could get in behind me with out me getting out of the drivers seat, I just had to lean forward slightly.
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the last person to drive a VXR8 at those speeds hit a polo at 140mph and killed the driver
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I also like the 2 door sat up. The doors are generally longer as well which adds to the lines of a car.
My old pontiac was a 2 door, seated 6 no probs, and passngers could get in behind me with out me getting out of the drivers seat, I just had to lean forward slightly.
Absolute pain in a car park though.
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I also like the 2 door sat up. The doors are generally longer as well which adds to the lines of a car.
My old pontiac was a 2 door, seated 6 no probs, and passngers could get in behind me with out me getting out of the drivers seat, I just had to lean forward slightly.
Very true but not as bad as I expexted.
Absolute pain in a car park though.
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A mate used to have a black manual MV6, we had the only two in Ming Mong (Immingham). He had his 7 or 8 years & loved it. (Well why would'nt he?) It's still going strong in the Notts. area on an R plate, think the last two letters are VT. Anyway obviously being a man of taste he's replaced the MV6 with a new black VXR8...& why not? I was on the M180 heading into Grimsby following some nondescript car bored @ 80 ish when something flew up behind me & braked hard, i saw the HSV plate & pulled over to let him through then tucked in behind. Over the roundabout onto an urban 50mph limit dual carriageway with another roundabout at the end. I hit 115 & he was away, god knows how fast he was going before i caught him up @ the roundabout. The sound of the thing was jaw dropping. We've all seen them on telly etc but the presence they have up close is incredible.
Still be the Monaro for me in a few years time as they're 2 door. ALL cars look better with 2 doors!!! 8-)
Absalutely cracking post guy, presence.... i cought a glimps of one localy, just disapeared round a corner, couldnt tell what it was, but it was big, chunky and mean looking....and black btw. I took a differant route and met it on the main road. Absalutely awsome car, really is.
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I like the VXR8's 4 door; it makes a good daily commute - so I bought one :-)
I wouldn't say no myself.
Although I'd prefer mine in Murph's Castrol colours :)
(http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn85/TVRMoneypit/164514_466276411764_347851081764_6132218_2515946_n.jpg)
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Although I would happily own a monaro, I would never consider a 2 door in a million years. In order to allow access to the rear the doors have to be considerably longer than on a 4 door. Meaning getting in and out of the front is a nightmare in any car park as the doors can't open fully. ESP in uk car parks where the spaces are so ludicrously small.
Passengers struggle to get in and out and the front seats have to be empty to allow them to do so. 2 doors are nightmare, I fail to see the advantage?not to mention dinging the edge of your own doors and battering everyone elses in range, I hate the bloody thing personally.
Although I mite well suffer all that in a Monaro. But if spending that sort of cash I'd go for the vxr8 aaaall daaaaaay loooooong :-*
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Although I would happily own a monaro, I would never consider a 2 door in a million years. In order to allow access to the rear the doors have to be considerably longer than on a 4 door. Meaning getting in and out of the front is a nightmare in any car park as the doors can't open fully. ESP in uk car parks where the spaces are so ludicrously small.
Passengers struggle to get in and out and the front seats have to be empty to allow them to do so. 2 doors are nightmare, I fail to see the advantage?not to mention dinging the edge of your own doors and battering everyone elses in range, I hate the bloody thing personally.
Although I mite well suffer all that in a Monaro. But if spending that sort of cash I'd go for the vxr8 aaaall daaaaaay loooooong :-*
Lay off the mince pies then :P ;D
I would have no such troubles :)
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Yum:
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Although I would happily own a monaro, I would never consider a 2 door in a million years. In order to allow access to the rear the doors have to be considerably longer than on a 4 door. Meaning getting in and out of the front is a nightmare in any car park as the doors can't open fully. ESP in uk car parks where the spaces are so ludicrously small.
Passengers struggle to get in and out and the front seats have to be empty to allow them to do so. 2 doors are nightmare, I fail to see the advantage?not to mention dinging the edge of your own doors and battering everyone elses in range, I hate the bloody thing personally.
Although I mite well suffer all that in a Monaro. But if spending that sort of cash I'd go for the vxr8 aaaall daaaaaay loooooong :-*
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I don't think much of your Geordie accent Chris! :D ;)
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Although I would happily own a monaro, I would never consider a 2 door in a million years. In order to allow access to the rear the doors have to be considerably longer than on a 4 door. Meaning getting in and out of the front is a nightmare in any car park as the doors can't open fully. ESP in uk car parks where the spaces are so ludicrously small.
Passengers struggle to get in and out and the front seats have to be empty to allow them to do so. 2 doors are nightmare, I fail to see the advantage?not to mention dinging the edge of your own doors and battering everyone elses in range, I hate the bloody thing personally.
Although I mite well suffer all that in a Monaro. But if spending that sort of cash I'd go for the vxr8 aaaall daaaaaay loooooong :-*
Lay off the mince pies then :P ;D
I would have no such troubles :)
Aye? Your taller than me, streaky wee! Hold an omega door in on its inboard first nick in the check strap then try and get in and out.
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Although I would happily own a monaro, I would never consider a 2 door in a million years. In order to allow access to the rear the doors have to be considerably longer than on a 4 door. Meaning getting in and out of the front is a nightmare in any car park as the doors can't open fully. ESP in uk car parks where the spaces are so ludicrously small.
Passengers struggle to get in and out and the front seats have to be empty to allow them to do so. 2 doors are nightmare, I fail to see the advantage?not to mention dinging the edge of your own doors and battering everyone elses in range, I hate the bloody thing personally.
Although I mite well suffer all that in a Monaro. But if spending that sort of cash I'd go for the vxr8 aaaall daaaaaay loooooong :-*
Lay off the mince pies then :P ;D
I would have no such troubles :)
Aye? Your taller than me, streaky wee! Hold an omega door in on its inboard first nick in the check strap then try and get in and out.
I've done it before it even hits first check strap, our garage was not designed for an Omega!
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Although I would happily own a monaro, I would never consider a 2 door in a million years. In order to allow access to the rear the doors have to be considerably longer than on a 4 door. Meaning getting in and out of the front is a nightmare in any car park as the doors can't open fully. ESP in uk car parks where the spaces are so ludicrously small.
Passengers struggle to get in and out and the front seats have to be empty to allow them to do so. 2 doors are nightmare, I fail to see the advantage?not to mention dinging the edge of your own doors and battering everyone elses in range, I hate the bloody thing personally.
Although I mite well suffer all that in a Monaro. But if spending that sort of cash I'd go for the vxr8 aaaall daaaaaay loooooong :-*
Lay off the mince pies then :P ;D
I would have no such troubles :)
Aye? Your taller than me, streaky wee! Hold an omega door in on its inboard first nick in the check strap then try and get in and out.
I've done it before it even hits first check strap, our garage was not designed for an Omega!
It's possible, but rather awkward. I have to get me heals in first, if you see what I mean....and when me backs playing up....ooh. :(
Colour screen in the link, is that oe?
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There used to be a supercharged one that flew past on the main road next to our housing estate every few days... Sounded fit as hell!
Always wondered if it was a VXR8, until the day I happended to hear it, then a couple of seconds see it comming towards me when I was in the Mig. ;D
It was the Supercharged Wortec VXR8 Carbon Edition. :-* :-* :-*
(http://www.ijdonline.co.uk/oof/VXR8.jpg)
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Mmmmnot sure about the orange... Oh who am I kiddin, GIME IT! ;D
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A mate used to have a black manual MV6, we had the only two in Ming Mong (Immingham). He had his 7 or 8 years & loved it. (Well why would'nt he?) It's still going strong in the Notts. area on an R plate, think the last two letters are VT. Anyway obviously being a man of taste he's replaced the MV6 with a new black VXR8...& why not? I was on the M180 heading into Grimsby following some nondescript car bored @ 80 ish when something flew up behind me & braked hard, i saw the HSV plate & pulled over to let him through then tucked in behind. Over the roundabout onto an urban 50mph limit dual carriageway with another roundabout at the end. I hit 115 & he was away, god knows how fast he was going before i caught him up @ the roundabout. The sound of the thing was jaw dropping. We've all seen them on telly etc but the presence they have up close is incredible.
Still be the Monaro for me in a few years time as they're 2 door. ALL cars look better with 2 doors!!! 8-)
But are a pain with young kids and aged elders to get into it! 8-) 8-) 8-) :y
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No longer being a family man with litt'luns, i can indulge my preference for 2 doors. I do have room in the workshop but the Cortina lives in there anyway. Regarding the car park issue i always parks as far away from the store as i can & walk. Migs are too big for the average space so it's asking for trouble. Does'nt do able bodied folk or kids any harm to walk a few yards.
Danny, again as Zulu you make a fair point but it was hardly needed as i'd already accepted my wrongdoing. Not sure how you knew it weas the "last" VXR8 that killed the polo driver & it could be an Omega or any other car. Of course i've no wish to kill or hurt anyone & understand the risks but more accidents happen at lower speeds due to folk playing with satnavs, music, telling kids off etc. Granted lower speeds equal lighter impacts but you can kill someone @ 30, 40, 50mph & ther's a higher overall chance of this happening. It's usually driver error not speed that kills. At these speeds you tend to pay much more attention as you're less complacent than dawdling along looking for speed cameras. Which BTW is what i spend 99% of my driving time in truck or car doing. Guy.
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Might get slightly less righteous replies in general car chat perhaps. I bet if others are honest and equally black and white, they may find they are habitual speeders also. Hmm :-?
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Speed does not kill.
I can get in a plane and be quite safe doing 500mph...
German autobahns prove high speed motorways can be safe, yet you can kill someone doing 35mph.
What does kill is inappropriate speed, just fact someone said they did 110mph, people should not jump on the 'speed' wagon.
110mph down a German Autobahn? I'd say that was quite safe. 110mph down road to AppleCross? Thats a different story!
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Might get slightly less righteous replies in general car chat perhaps. I bet if others are honest and equally black and white, they may find they are habitual speeders also. Hmm :-?
I thought I made a fair point Chris which Guy accepted - there is no way on this earth that driving at such a speed (115 mph) is safe on public roads.
Having a class 1 police driving certificate (as it was) I have driven at excess speed on many occasions in the course of duty, although I was never comfortable doing so - I knew my limitations but most other drivers were, for the most part, ignorant of their own.
When I worked in uniform I dealt with a fair few collisions (not all down to excess speed) involving death. It was part of my duty so it had to be done; the most difficult part however was either breaking the news to the victim’s relatives or witnessing their abject grief when they had to make a formal identification of their son, daughter and so on in the mortuary.
Since that time I've had a healthy respect for speed and the unpredictability of other drivers and although I don't have to drive in those circumstances any longer, the many sad cases I dealt with during those early years remain at the back of my mind on each and every occasion I drive any motor vehicle.
When speed increases the chances of avoiding danger begin to decrease dramatically. Danger can come from many directions - from the dozy git bumbling along doing everything but actually driving their car, a fault developing in the vehicle being driven or bad road surface and so on.
These are difficult to deal with at the best of times but to try and do so on public roads when at speed isn't sensible in my view.
The difficulty with owning or being in control of such powerful vehicles is that one is tempted to use the speed available either deliberately or being caught up in the moment as Guy was.
That's when things can go wrong - and when they do - the results are generally amplified as they occur on roads that are simply unsuitable for high speed use.
Speed as of itself doesn’t necessarily kill – the inappropriate use of it certainly does and, given the physical state of our roads, the generally poor standard of driving and the sheer volume of traffic we encounter on a daily basis, speeding on public roads is quite simply an accident waiting to happen.
In so far as my own inclinations are concerned, I don't exceed the posted limit as (for me) it's easier not to.
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Might get slightly less righteous replies in general car chat perhaps. I bet if others are honest and equally black and white, they may find they are habitual speeders also. Hmm :-?
I thought I made a fair point Chris which Guy accepted - there is no way on this earth that driving at such a speed (115 mph) is safe on public roads.
Having a class 1 police driving certificate (as it was) I have driven at excess speed on many occasions in the course of duty, although I was never comfortable doing so - I knew my limitations but most other drivers were, for the most part, ignorant of their own.
When I worked in uniform I dealt with a fair few collisions (not all down to excess speed) involving death. It was part of my duty so it had to be done; the most difficult part however was either breaking the news to the victim’s relatives or witnessing their abject grief when they had to make a formal identification of their son, daughter and so on in the mortuary.
Since that time I've had a healthy respect for speed and the unpredictability of other drivers and although I don't have to drive in those circumstances any longer, the many sad cases I dealt with during those early years remain at the back of my mind on each and every occasion I drive any motor vehicle.
When speed increases the chances of avoiding danger begin to decrease dramatically. Danger can come from many directions - from the dozy git bumbling along doing everything but actually driving their car, a fault developing in the vehicle being driven or bad road surface and so on.
These are difficult to deal with at the best of times but to try and do so on public roads when at speed isn't sensible in my view.
The difficulty with owning or being in control of such powerful vehicles is that one is tempted to use the speed available either deliberately or being caught up in the moment as Guy was.
That's when things can go wrong - and when they do - the results are generally amplified as they occur on roads that are simply unsuitable for high speed use.
Speed as of itself doesn’t necessarily kill – the inappropriate use of it certainly does and, given the physical state of our roads, the generally poor standard of driving and the sheer volume of traffic we encounter on a daily basis, speeding on public roads is quite simply an accident waiting to happen.
In so far as my own inclinations are concerned, I don't exceed the posted limit as (for me) it's easier not to.
I wish i could argue this but i can't as your'e quite right in everything you say. I've spent nearly 30 years driving for a living & seen some terrifying sights/injuries etc. I've hurt myself & had to be cut out but never hurt anyone else. I do however accept this has beem more down to luck than judgement & there have been one or two VERY near misses. Just being able to drive a vehicle safely at speed can never allow for others actions on the public highway & our reactions to such. In some ways i regret my initial post as if you really knew me you'd be happy for me to take your Mum/Granny shopping or to church etc.
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I wish i could argue this but i can't as your'e quite right in everything you say. I've spent nearly 30 years driving for a living & seen some terrifying sights/injuries etc. I've hurt myself & had to be cut out but never hurt anyone else. I do however accept this has beem more down to luck than judgement & there have been one or two VERY near misses. Just being able to drive a vehicle safely at speed can never allow for others actions on the public highway & our reactions to such. In some ways i regret my initial post as if you really knew me you'd be happy for me to take your Mum/Granny shopping or to church etc.
I thought that to be a well considered reply Guy 8-) :y
I wasn't having a dig at you specifically as I know how easy it is to get caught up on the spur of the moment.
As you rightly say irrespective of any driver’s personal skill it's always the other driver who you really have to look out for.
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Might get slightly less righteous replies in general car chat perhaps. I bet if others are honest and equally black and white, they may find they are habitual speeders also. Hmm :-?
I thought I made a fair point Chris which Guy accepted - there is no way on this earth that driving at such a speed (115 mph) is safe on public roads.
Having a class 1 police driving certificate (as it was) I have driven at excess speed on many occasions in the course of duty, although I was never comfortable doing so - I knew my limitations but most other drivers were, for the most part, ignorant of their own.
When I worked in uniform I dealt with a fair few collisions (not all down to excess speed) involving death. It was part of my duty so it had to be done; the most difficult part however was either breaking the news to the victim’s relatives or witnessing their abject grief when they had to make a formal identification of their son, daughter and so on in the mortuary.
Since that time I've had a healthy respect for speed and the unpredictability of other drivers and although I don't have to drive in those circumstances any longer, the many sad cases I dealt with during those early years remain at the back of my mind on each and every occasion I drive any motor vehicle.
When speed increases the chances of avoiding danger begin to decrease dramatically. Danger can come from many directions - from the dozy git bumbling along doing everything but actually driving their car, a fault developing in the vehicle being driven or bad road surface and so on.
These are difficult to deal with at the best of times but to try and do so on public roads when at speed isn't sensible in my view.
The difficulty with owning or being in control of such powerful vehicles is that one is tempted to use the speed available either deliberately or being caught up in the moment as Guy was.
That's when things can go wrong - and when they do - the results are generally amplified as they occur on roads that are simply unsuitable for high speed use.
Speed as of itself doesn’t necessarily kill – the inappropriate use of it certainly does and, given the physical state of our roads, the generally poor standard of driving and the sheer volume of traffic we encounter on a daily basis, speeding on public roads is quite simply an accident waiting to happen.
In so far as my own inclinations are concerned, I don't exceed the posted limit as (for me) it's easier not to.
I'll not go into that, my point is that its not necessary to take a superior stance in the first place. You'll have to accept I find the high hoarse attitude on here most distaistfull at times. Do you think we're not aware of every word you 've said?
You 've missed the point of guys post entirely and taken a passionate post about an awesome car in the opposite direction. Your entitled to your opinion of course, and yes we all know your right, now can we talk about the vxr8 please.
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110mph down a German Autobahn? I'd say that was quite safe. 110mph down road to AppleCross? Thats a different story!
Oh what a fantastic stretch of tarmac that is. :-*
Kevin
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not quite Applecross but here's my car up the road at Inverpolly (3rd form left)
(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i446/kevinm10/CopyofIMGP1120.jpg)
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WOW Kevin that looks amazing. Is that Inverpolly up in Scotland? I've just checked on streetmap.co.uk! It looks really good, is there loads of scenery like that?
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Does anyone know what mpg you could expect from any engined Monaro (unmodified, and i assume they're all manual?), and a VXR8 - again i assume these are all manual, and are these all supercharged? thanks
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WOW Kevin that looks amazing. Is that Inverpolly up in Scotland? I've just checked on streetmap.co.uk! It looks really good, is there loads of scenery like that?
Ohh, yes. It's just pi$$ing down most of the time. ;)
It has to be said, Scotland is the most lovely place to tour in a car when the weather is playing. It might take several trips to achieve that but it's worth it.
Just drive until you run out of road...
(http://images.omegaowners.com/images/kevin/IMGP5073.JPG)
Kevin
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Geoff - that's actually from Knockan Cliff on the road from Ullapool up to Kylesku. The view is west into the InverPollaidh ("Polly") nature reserve.
There's lots like that round there - look for "Bealach na Ba" for Tunnie's original reference.
And of course the sun always shines, it never rains, you can always see the tops of the hills, the midges don't bite ... ;)
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WOW Kevin that looks amazing. Is that Inverpolly up in Scotland? I've just checked on streetmap.co.uk! It looks really good, is there loads of scenery like that?
Ohh, yes. It's just pi$$ing down most of the time. ;)
It has to be said, Scotland is the most lovely place to tour in a car when the weather is playing. It might take several trips to achieve that but it's worth it.
Just drive until you run out of road...
Kevin
Eddrachilles Bay from Drumbeg?
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Eddrachilles Bay from Drumbeg?
Got it in one. :y
Kevin
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Does anyone know what mpg you could expect from any engined Monaro (unmodified, and i assume they're all manual?), and a VXR8 - again i assume these are all manual, and are these all supercharged? thanks
Ask on here and they should be able to tell you;
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/forum.asp?h=0&f=69&mid=68565
(some NA, some FI, some manual, some auto)
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110mph down a German Autobahn? I'd say that was quite safe. 110mph down road to AppleCross? Thats a different story!
Oh what a fantastic stretch of tarmac that is. :-*
Kevin
Looking forward to doing that in a few months on the beemer, just hope weather is kind!
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I'll not go into that, my point is that its not necessary to take a superior stance in the first place. You'll have to accept I find the high hoarse attitude on here most distaistfull at times. Do you think we're not aware of every word you 've said?
You 've missed the point of guys post entirely and taken a passionate post about an awesome car in the opposite direction. Your entitled to your opinion of course, and yes we all know your right, now can we talk about the vxr8 please.
I am genuinely sorry to have caused some disappointment for members - including you Chris - by voicing my concerns over this matter.
There’s no point in getting stuck into the rights or wrongs of this unless you specifically want to.
I'm a dyed in the wool copper - what else was I going to do and yes, sometimes it's a pain in the arse to hear someone like me bleating about the potential pitfalls of matters like this but that's the way it is, and as long as I'm not banned here that's the way it will be.
I have no agenda in being a member here and on matters such as the one under discussion some will listen many will not - but that's OK we're all over 21 so are in control of our own destiny
I'm too long in the tooth to occupy any lofty position upon any steed Chris as I learned very early in my career that a fall from such sanctimonious heights is painful so please don't mistake my style of writing for any thing other than what it is - a style of writing.
I’m an ordinary bod who has fiddled about in the shite of society for a sufficiently long enough period for any airs and graces to have long since dissipated.
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Thanks Chris for your post, you make a valid point. I used to attack those like Zulu who gave a more composed opinion but i'm calming....slowly, trying not to attack so quickly & it's working. The stretch of dual carriageway in question has a roundabout @ either end, no exits or pavements so is relatively safe to "play" on. That said a blowout or a car innocently pulling out to overtake underestimating our speed could well have resulted in disaster. This will in no way stop me doing it again, that's me but i'm learning to tolerate, even welcome the opinions of those who differ.
We all have our points to make. Guy. :y