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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: albitz on 29 December 2010, 11:02:27
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...and David on their purchase of a new puppy at Christmas. ::)
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I'm minded to agree with you son. :y
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Yes. I found that depressing.
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I hope for the "puppy"'s sake that he has a thick skin. He's going to need it for the life he's got to look forward to.
Just because you can, it doesn't mean you should.
Kevin
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Agreed, its grotesque in so many different ways. Dread to think what it will be like to be that kid in 20 years time. :(
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Have you seen the name they have chosen too? Thats not going to do him any favours to start!
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can't see anything wrong with it - they've got the money, they paid the mum who obviously agreed to the deal - funny how the most strident capitilists are up in arms.......or is it that the parents happen to be gay? interesting.....what year is it again? ;D ;D
i for one wish the happy couple and their new addition all the best :y
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Have you seen the name they have chosen too? Thats not going to do him any favours to start!
he's multi-millionaire Elton Johns son......living in Beverley Hills and luxury villas throughout the world, whens hes older, he'll be able to afford to do what he likes, when he likes, where he likes......I suspect he'll do just fine Tunnie, I'll pass your concerns on tho :y
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can't see anything wrong with it - they've got the money, they paid the mum who obviously agreed to the deal - funny how the most strident capitilists are up in arms.......or is it that the parents happen to be gay? interesting.....what year is it again? ;D ;D
i for one wish the happy couple and their new addition all the best :y
I don't like that word, it doesn't convey the meaning. They are homosexuals.
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can't see anything wrong with it - they've got the money, they paid the mum who obviously agreed to the deal - funny how the most strident capitilists are up in arms.......or is it that the parents happen to be gay? interesting.....what year is it again? ;D ;D
i for one wish the happy couple and their new addition all the best :y
I think it's peculiar to say the least.
Just my opinion, but if you want a baby you should go about it the natural way, then if that fails, let medicine lend a helping hand. Undecided about surrogacy. I certainly don't think two men should have custody of a baby in this way.
I have nothing against gay people. People are what they are, but exposing infants to certain lifetstyles isn't right IMO. Should they not have a balanced upbringing until they reach a certain age? When I say balanced I mean a parent of both sexes.
As said, just because they can doesn't necessarily mean they should. So what if they have plenty of money. Money doesn't make a person.
It seems like a selfish and vain act, with the interests of the baby second.
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Have you seen the name they have chosen too? Thats not going to do him any favours to start!
he's multi-millionaire Elton Johns son......living in Beverley Hills and luxury villas throughout the world, whens hes older, he'll be able to afford to do what he likes, when he likes, where he likes......I suspect he'll do just fine Tunnie, I'll pass your concerns on tho :y
A socialist inferring that the only thing that matters is money - how peculiar. :-/
In 20 years time Elton will either be dead or very old indeed and the child will always be the surrogate kid who Elton paid a woman to have so he could be a "dad".
He will be persued by the media every day of his life, and the only escape will be to live in a similar bubble - unconnected to the real world - that Elton lives in. And we have seen what kind of effect that has had. ;)
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can't see anything wrong with it - they've got the money, they paid the mum who obviously agreed to the deal - funny how the most strident capitilists are up in arms.......or is it that the parents happen to be gay? interesting.....what year is it again? ;D ;D
i for one wish the happy couple and their new addition all the best :y
I think it's peculiar to say the least.
Just my opinion, but if you want a baby you should go about it the natural way, then if that fails, let medicine lend a helping hand. Undecided about surrogacy. I certainly don't think two men should have custody of a baby in this way.
I have nothing against gay people. People are what they are, but exposing infants to certain lifetstyles isn't right IMO. Should they not have a balanced upbringing until they reach a certain age? When I say balanced I mean a parent of both sexes.
As said, just because they can doesn't necessarily mean they should. So what if they have plenty of money. Money doesn't make a person.
It seems like a selfish and vain act, with the interests of the baby second.
so is a couple in a stable, long-lasting relationship and comfortably well off worse than some kid on benefits bringing up a baby with little or no idea who the father is, and absolutely no intention of contributing to society or indeed have her sprog contribute?
homophobic nonsense :o
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Two different kinds of wrong, seemples.
I hate the word "homophobic", it implies that there are only two possibilities - fear of homosexuality or fully on board with it. It doesnt allow for any other possibilities, like the fact that some people believe it to be unnatural, immoral, sinful etc.
Personally I dont give a monkeys what consenting adults to with/to each other, but I detest the pink militant tendency (Peter Tatchell and the like) who force everyone to either agree with what their version of right is, or be pressurised and persecuted in any way they see fit.
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can't see anything wrong with it - they've got the money, they paid the mum who obviously agreed to the deal - funny how the most strident capitilists are up in arms.......or is it that the parents happen to be gay? interesting.....what year is it again? ;D ;D
i for one wish the happy couple and their new addition all the best :y
I think it's peculiar to say the least.
Just my opinion, but if you want a baby you should go about it the natural way, then if that fails, let medicine lend a helping hand. Undecided about surrogacy. I certainly don't think two men should have custody of a baby in this way.
I have nothing against gay people. People are what they are, but exposing infants to certain lifetstyles isn't right IMO. Should they not have a balanced upbringing until they reach a certain age? When I say balanced I mean a parent of both sexes.
As said, just because they can doesn't necessarily mean they should. So what if they have plenty of money. Money doesn't make a person.
It seems like a selfish and vain act, with the interests of the baby second.
so is a couple in a stable, long-lasting relationship and comfortably well off worse than some kid on benefits bringing up a baby with little or no idea who the father is, and absolutely no intention of contributing to society or indeed have her sprog contribute?
homophobic nonsense :o
It's not homophobic nonsense at all. I believe in live and let live. As Albs has said, it is not my business or concern what two consenting adults get upto behind closed doors, as long as it doesn't impact on me. I have nothing against gays.
I agree with what has been said about the word homophobic. It's like black and white, for or against and no inbetween. Which is wrong. I believe it is immoral and unnatural, and certainly shouldn't be celebrated, but as I said I have nothing against gays.
Whatever example you gave in your post is irrelevant, there's nothing to be gained in comparing to other people. (I don't really understand the point you're trying to make in your example anyway).
And I too was going to comment on your socialist views, but thought best not to. However for you to label it 'homophobic nonsense' in the typical way a socialist would abuse someone for disagreeing with them is wrong. This is the reason why the last shambles of a government was thrown out, because they're too damn bloody arrogant and can't accept other people's views without resorting to abuse.
Imagine having two middle aged men 'dads' as parents. I wouldn't like it.
There's too many sheep following this fashionable way of thinking, what's happened to traditional values, morals and ethics, politics aside?
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can't see anything wrong with it - they've got the money, they paid the mum who obviously agreed to the deal - funny how the most strident capitilists are up in arms.......or is it that the parents happen to be gay? interesting.....what year is it again? ;D ;D
i for one wish the happy couple and their new addition all the best :y
I think it's peculiar to say the least.
Just my opinion, but if you want a baby you should go about it the natural way, then if that fails, let medicine lend a helping hand. Undecided about surrogacy. I certainly don't think two men should have custody of a baby in this way.
I have nothing against gay people. People are what they are, but exposing infants to certain lifetstyles isn't right IMO. Should they not have a balanced upbringing until they reach a certain age? When I say balanced I mean a parent of both sexes.
As said, just because they can doesn't necessarily mean they should. So what if they have plenty of money. Money doesn't make a person.
It seems like a selfish and vain act, with the interests of the baby second.
so is a couple in a stable, long-lasting relationship and comfortably well off worse than some kid on benefits bringing up a baby with little or no idea who the father is, and absolutely no intention of contributing to society or indeed have her sprog contribute?
homophobic nonsense :o
It's not homophobic nonsense at all. I believe in live and let live. As Albs has said, it is not my business or concern what two consenting adults get upto behind closed doors, as long as it doesn't impact on me. I have nothing against gays.
I agree with what has been said about the word homophobic. It's like black and white, for or against and no inbetween. Which is wrong. I believe it is immoral and unnatural, and certainly shouldn't be celebrated, but as I said I have nothing against gays.
Whatever example you gave in your post is irrelevant, there's nothing to be gained in comparing to other people. (I don't really understand the point you're trying to make in your example anyway).
And I too was going to comment on your socialist views, but thought best not to. However for you to label it 'homophobic nonsense' in the typical way a socialist would abuse someone for disagreeing with them is wrong. This is the reason why the last shambles of a government was thrown out, because they're too damn bloody arrogant and can't accept other people's views without resorting to abuse.
Imagine having two middle aged men 'dads' as parents. I wouldn't like it.
There's too many sheep following this fashionable way of thinking, what's happened to traditional values, morals and ethics, politics aside?
those values saw people locked up for being gay - i think some of our less learned friends might like a return to that.
what i find immoral and unnatural is a prejudice against a person for being gay
"Imagine having two middle aged men 'dads' as parents. I wouldn't like it."
who asked you if you wanted to be brought up by 2 gay men? :o :o
i find it amusing that as someone who has no problem with it I'm told that calling someone homophobic is resorting to abuse.....these are the same people who deem words such as "grotesque" "immoral" and "unnatural" to be perfectly reasonable adjectives to describe a relationship between 2 consenting adults - very odd indeed ;D
it's rather like assuming someone who has tolerance and believes in fairness is a loony left socialist, be real nice if the world was that simple huh?:y
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I think you protesteth too much BJ :-* :-* ;)
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Well look on the positive side. The child won't want for anything financially.
I wish the TV reporting had been in more detail. For example who was the dad? Do they know? Was it a joint effort? How did the sperm get from the dad into the donor egg.? and so on. Spare no detail, the public have a right to know.
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It's just WRONG on so many levels! >:(
Just because they're a pair of "married" shirt lifters does not give them the right to be parents. That kid will grow up so confused having 2 fathers and no mother!
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I have always found the "tolerant left" to be the most intolerant people when someone disagrees with them. Hence Christians being sacked for not in all conscience being able to perform gay marriage ceremonies. Christian B&B owners being sued for not in all conscience being able to allow themselves to have gay men sleeping together under thier roof etc.etc.etc.
Where is the tolerance for those peoples deeply held morals and beliefs ??
My opinion is that the pendulum has swung too far. In the 70,s "queer bashing" wasnt uncommon, that was obviously wrong and society had to move away from that. Now,we have had the age of consent lowered from 21 to 18 then to 16, and now Tatchell says he doesnt actually believe in an age of consent - where will it end ?
Like many other so called "minority groups" Gays have got themselves into a position where they can do what they want and no-one dare say a word against it. If you do you are automatically branded as a purveyor of hate. You are either completely with them or completely against them.
That to me is the absolute height of intolerance.
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Well look on the positive side. The child won't want for anything financially.
I wish the TV reporting had been in more detail. For example who was the dad? Do they know? Was it a joint effort? How did the sperm get from the dad into the donor egg.? and so on. Spare no detail, the public have a right to know.
And did they throw away a load of female embryos before they came up with a good male one ?
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Well look on the positive side. The child won't want for anything financially.
I wish the TV reporting had been in more detail. For example who was the dad? Do they know? Was it a joint effort? How did the sperm get from the dad into the donor egg.? and so on. Spare no detail, the public have a right to know.
And did they throw away a load of female embryos before they came up with a good male one ?
Good question. I will add that to my list. The public have a right to know.
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:-X It`s none of my business.....
....I`d hate to think `they might have a say in my life`s (perfectly-legal) choices. ;)
Despite their shared-life`s "unconventionality"; I sincerely wish they and their child, every happiness. :y
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I think you protesteth too much BJ :-* :-* ;)
nah - you're on the wrong page.......... I'm not a socialist :o :o ;)
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I have always found the "tolerant left" to be the most intolerant people when someone disagrees with them. Hence Christians being sacked for not in all conscience being able to perform gay marriage ceremonies. Christian B&B owners being sued for not in all conscience being able to allow themselves to have gay men sleeping together under thier roof etc.etc.etc.
Where is the tolerance for those peoples deeply held morals and beliefs ??
My opinion is that the pendulum has swung too far. In the 70,s "queer bashing" wasnt uncommon, that was obviously wrong and society had to move away from that. Now,we have had the age of consent lowered from 21 to 18 then to 16, and now Tatchell says he doesnt actually believe in an age of consent - where will it end ?
Like many other so called "minority groups" Gays have got themselves into a position where they can do what they want and no-one dare say a word against it. If you do you are automatically branded as a purveyor of hate. You are either completely with them or completely against them.
That to me is the absolute height of intolerance.
Albs, where to start.....you accuse this mythical "tolerant left" of being intolerant of intolerance by being intolerant of "Christian" attitudes ;D ;D :y
brilliant.
up there with the Muslim holding the placard saying "Death to those who say Islam is violent"
priceless, you couldn't make it up ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
this attitude that you cant say or do anything for fear of offending "them" "the gays" as if every homosexual on the planet thinks exactly the same way as evry other homosexual on the planet - i'm willing to bet that there are gay communists, gay socialists, gay liberals, gay tories, gay people who like X-factor, gay people who don't like X-Factor, gay people who love football, gay people who hate football, gay people who hate gay people, gay bankers, gay doctors, gay soldiers, gay firemen, gay student protestors and gay policemen, so please Albs - this stunning insight into your black and white world - what are "the gays" thinking of now? :y
p.s. can you give me 6 numbers for tonights lottery - ta ;D
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I think you protesteth too much BJ :-* :-* ;)
nah - you're on the wrong page.......... I'm not a socialist :o :o ;)
;D ;D ;D Outstanding. ;D ;D :y
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Banjax - if you refer to my earlier post regarding"the pink militant tendency" within the gay community it should be obvious that I was reffering to them and not "every gay on the planet" ::) ;).
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Banjax - if you refer to my earlier post regarding"the pink militant tendency" within the gay community it should be obvious that I was reffering to them and not "every gay on the planet" ::) ;).
you were earlier I'll give you that, not laterally tho - but it's Xmas so I accept your intention wasn't the sweeping generalisation it looked like :y
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Elton John was a legend back in the days of Benny & the Jets, yellow brick road etc. Since then his feeble attempts at music are bland & forgetable & he has turned into a sad pathetic queen. I know nothing of David Furnish. This child will want for nothing but will be brought up in the most preposterous envioronment that has no chance of resulting in a balanced grounded adult. As for the homophobic issue in the literal meaning of the word of course i'm not scared of gay men but in the sense it's generally used then yes i am. In other words i strongly disapprove. I wish i could stand with the more tolerant among you & accept what goes on behind closed doors but sorry i just can't. I'm not saying i think they should be outlawed or persecuted in any way but such acts just don't sit right with me. Blokes simply should'nt do that sh*t to eachother it's deviant & goes against the grain.
I know there are some who don't share my views, i admire you for being more open & accepting than i am & hope we can remain friends despite our differing opinions. Guy.
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A gay once kissed me at a party many years ago. :y - it was really lovely. :-* :-*
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A gay once kissed me at a party many years ago. :y - it was really lovely. :-* :-*
You should write a song about it .. I mean, it worked pretty well for Katy Perry and 'I kissed a girl' - surely this would work just the same .. no? :D
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can't see anything wrong with it - they've got the money, they paid the mum who obviously agreed to the deal - funny how the most strident capitilists are up in arms.......or is it that the parents happen to be gay? interesting.....what year is it again? ;D ;D
i for one wish the happy couple and their new addition all the best :y
I think it's peculiar to say the least.
Just my opinion, but if you want a baby you should go about it the natural way, then if that fails, let medicine lend a helping hand. Undecided about surrogacy. I certainly don't think two men should have custody of a baby in this way.
I have nothing against gay people. People are what they are, but exposing infants to certain lifetstyles isn't right IMO. Should they not have a balanced upbringing until they reach a certain age? When I say balanced I mean a parent of both sexes.
As said, just because they can doesn't necessarily mean they should. So what if they have plenty of money. Money doesn't make a person.
It seems like a selfish and vain act, with the interests of the baby second.
so is a couple in a stable, long-lasting relationship and comfortably well off worse than some kid on benefits bringing up a baby with little or no idea who the father is, and absolutely no intention of contributing to society or indeed have her sprog contribute?
homophobic nonsense :o
It's not homophobic nonsense at all. I believe in live and let live. As Albs has said, it is not my business or concern what two consenting adults get upto behind closed doors, as long as it doesn't impact on me. I have nothing against gays.
I agree with what has been said about the word homophobic. It's like black and white, for or against and no inbetween. Which is wrong. I believe it is immoral and unnatural, and certainly shouldn't be celebrated, but as I said I have nothing against gays.
Whatever example you gave in your post is irrelevant, there's nothing to be gained in comparing to other people. (I don't really understand the point you're trying to make in your example anyway).
And I too was going to comment on your socialist views, but thought best not to. However for you to label it 'homophobic nonsense' in the typical way a socialist would abuse someone for disagreeing with them is wrong. This is the reason why the last shambles of a government was thrown out, because they're too damn bloody arrogant and can't accept other people's views without resorting to abuse.
Imagine having two middle aged men 'dads' as parents. I wouldn't like it.
There's too many sheep following this fashionable way of thinking, what's happened to traditional values, morals and ethics, politics aside?
those values saw people locked up for being gay - i think some of our less learned friends might like a return to that.
what i find immoral and unnatural is a prejudice against a person for being gay
"Imagine having two middle aged men 'dads' as parents. I wouldn't like it."
who asked you if you wanted to be brought up by 2 gay men? :o :o
i find it amusing that as someone who has no problem with it I'm told that calling someone homophobic is resorting to abuse.....these are the same people who deem words such as "grotesque" "immoral" and "unnatural" to be perfectly reasonable adjectives to describe a relationship between 2 consenting adults - very odd indeed ;D
it's rather like assuming someone who has tolerance and believes in fairness is a loony left socialist, be real nice if the world was that simple huh?:y
What values are you talking about that get people locked up? You've lost me. I think you are assuming too much and trying to judge someone by a few words on a computer screen.
If you know the definition of the word prejudice (I suggest you look it up), you will see I am not prejudiced. Anyway, prejudism is alot more natural than homosexuality. Many psychologists will tell you that.
You say "who asked you if you wanted to be brought up by 2 gay men?" This is what the whole thread is about, and as this is a public forum I will express my opinion thanks very much Banjax.
Unjustly and publicly saying that someone is prejudiced in anyway, like you did to me is worse than abuse. I think you should pick your words more carefully. What evidence do you have for this? I never used the word 'grotesque'.
As for being unnatural, well it is. I don't hide in the shadows to say what I think. The only reason behind sexual attraction and relationships is reproduction. Two people of the same sex cannot reproduce.
Who said that anyone who believes in tolerance and fairness is a 'looney left socialist'? It certainly wasn't me.
One thing that does strike me which has already been highlighted is that it is normally the very liberal among us who become the opposite when faced with someone who doesn't share their views. You are like this now.
If I believed in a god I would pray for this child.
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Thanks for the English lesson Geoff, you are prejudiced in that you, as I've noted in many of your posts, quite literally pre-judge a story based on a persons ethnicity/sexuality/colour.....the fact you seem completely oblivious to this is not your fault - it's mine for being so tolerant of ignorance :y
ps - it was, until relatively recently illegal to be gay - thats the kind of attitude that leads to a moral collapse in society, not whether couple "a" or "b" want to adopt a kid :y
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Thanks for the English lesson Geoff, you are prejudiced in that you, as I've noted in many of your posts, quite literally pre-judge a story based on a persons ethnicity/sexuality/colour.....the fact you seem completely oblivious to this is not your fault - it's mine for being so tolerant of ignorance :y
ps - it was, until relatively recently illegal to be gay - thats the kind of attitude that leads to a moral collapse in society, not whether couple "a" or "b" want to adopt a kid :y
You prove my point in that you pre judge and make broad assumptions based on a few words on a computer screen.
Laws are made by man. Morality is higher than law.
Again you become abusive and declare me ignorant because I disagree with you and you're not capable of accepting that people have different opinions.
When have I said that John and Furnish shouldn't adopt/have a kid owing to their sexuality? Again you're pre-judging and making assumptions.
You cant put as many daft smiley faces as you want after your posts, it still doesn't re-enforce your point.
I'd be interested to know which of my posts I have showed prejudism towards someone based on ethnicity or colour. Please enlighten me, but be very careful before you make accusations on a public forum.
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Would the honourable combattants please retire to their respective corners, catch their breath, and come out talking, please, rather than hammering views at each other?
From forum guidelines:- Keep posts relevant, short, and on topic....
Eai Thenk you.... ;D
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Ding ding ding ding ding ding.....
Would the honourable combattants please retire to their respective corners, catch their breath, and come out talking, please, rather than hammering views at each other?
From forum guidelines:- Keep posts relevant, short, and on topic....
Eai Thenk you.... ;D
You're no fun Broocie, no fun at all ;D
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Thanks for the English lesson Geoff, you are prejudiced in that you, as I've noted in many of your posts, quite literally pre-judge a story based on a persons ethnicity/sexuality/colour.....the fact you seem completely oblivious to this is not your fault - it's mine for being so tolerant of ignorance :y
ps - it was, until relatively recently illegal to be gay - thats the kind of attitude that leads to a moral collapse in society, not whether couple "a" or "b" want to adopt a kid :y
You prove my point in that you pre judge and make broad assumptions based on a few words on a computer screen.
Laws are made by man. Morality is higher than law.
Again you become abusive and declare me ignorant because I disagree with you and you're not capable of accepting that people have different opinions.
When have I said that John and Furnish shouldn't adopt/have a kid owing to their sexuality? Again you're pre-judging and making assumptions.
You cant put as many daft smiley faces as you want after your posts, it still doesn't re-enforce your point.
I'd be interested to know which of my posts I have showed prejudism towards someone based on ethnicity or colour. Please enlighten me, but be very careful before you make accusations on a public forum.
your morality or mine? or his or hers? law is a consensus of society not the whims of variable morality - its often wrong (law that is) but you wouldn't ask a creationist to impose their morality on us? or a communist or fascist? thats why its a democratic process and laws are brought in and passed by people we elect :y ;D ;D
i think as usual, you need to read your own stuff back, you cant handle a counter viewpoint without quickly becoming rude and patronising in my opinion :o
i'll withdraw any hint of prejudice on your part, however, as thats not fair of me to judge you - on that you've got a point :y (apologies for the :y at the end of that sentence but :y i :y love :y their cute :ylittle :yfaces :y :y)
i used to work with a Mackem - he was a royal pain 'en all - never backed down from his blinkered world view...........good guy and a brilliant laugh all the same and never shirked a round ;)
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can't see anything wrong with it - they've got the money, they paid the mum who obviously agreed to the deal - funny how the most strident capitilists are up in arms.......or is it that the parents happen to be gay? interesting.....what year is it again? ;D ;D
i for one wish the happy couple and their new addition all the best :y
I don't like that word, it doesn't convey the meaning. They are homosexuals.
I don't like that word, it doesn't convey the meaning. They are Poofs!
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My finger is hovering on the lock thread button folks...... ::)
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OK i give up ;D ;D
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A gay once kissed me at a party many years ago. :y - it was really lovely. :-* :-*
For the record I should say that the gay person concerned was called Trina who, at the time, had been in a long standing lesbian relationship with her lover.
I hope this clarifies the situation for the member who sent me an undraped photograph of their rather impressive form by way of PM earlier. :-* :y
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Thanks for the English lesson Geoff, you are prejudiced in that you, as I've noted in many of your posts, quite literally pre-judge a story based on a persons ethnicity/sexuality/colour.....the fact you seem completely oblivious to this is not your fault - it's mine for being so tolerant of ignorance :y
ps - it was, until relatively recently illegal to be gay - thats the kind of attitude that leads to a moral collapse in society, not whether couple "a" or "b" want to adopt a kid :y
You prove my point in that you pre judge and make broad assumptions based on a few words on a computer screen.
Laws are made by man. Morality is higher than law.
Again you become abusive and declare me ignorant because I disagree with you and you're not capable of accepting that people have different opinions.
When have I said that John and Furnish shouldn't adopt/have a kid owing to their sexuality? Again you're pre-judging and making assumptions.
You cant put as many daft smiley faces as you want after your posts, it still doesn't re-enforce your point.
I'd be interested to know which of my posts I have showed prejudism towards someone based on ethnicity or colour. Please enlighten me, but be very careful before you make accusations on a public forum.
your morality or mine? or his or hers? law is a consensus of society not the whims of variable morality - its often wrong (law that is) but you wouldn't ask a creationist to impose their morality on us? or a communist or fascist? thats why its a democratic process and laws are brought in and passed by people we elect :y ;D ;D
i think as usual, you need to read your own stuff back, you cant handle a counter viewpoint without quickly becoming rude and patronising in my opinion :o
i'll withdraw any hint of prejudice on your part, however, as thats not fair of me to judge you - on that you've got a point :y (apologies for the :y at the end of that sentence but :y i :y love :y their cute :ylittle :yfaces :y :y)
i used to work with a Mackem - he was a royal pain 'en all - never backed down from his blinkered world view...........good guy and a brilliant laugh all the same and never shirked a round ;)
I didn't know socialists knew what work was.
Now you're saying all mackems have a blinkered world view, is that not derogatory and stereotypical? How hypocritical of you! And who's a mackem? I'm not.
More assumptions and judgements from OOfs very own self styled bastion of tolerance and fairness.
All you're doing is copying the points I make about you now, so on that point I will victoriously move on
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A gay once kissed me at a party many years ago. :y - it was really lovely. :-* :-*
For the record I should say that the gay person concerned was called Trina who, at the time, had been in a long standing lesbian relationship with her lover.
I hope this clarifies the situation for the member who sent me an undraped photograph of their rather impressive form by way of PM earlier. :-* :y
It's the only fun STMO gets nowadays. ;D ;D
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Nah, that will be Dazzle. He,s a member who likes to show his
bookies biro member.
Anyway, all I said at the start of this was "congrats on the new puppy". Didnt want to start a fight. ::) Maybe we should let Catherine Tate have the last word......... ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifUQq5p5i2g
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A gay once kissed me at a party many years ago. :y - it was really lovely. :-* :-*
For the record I should say that the gay person concerned was called Trina who, at the time, had been in a long standing lesbian relationship with her lover.
I hope this clarifies the situation for the member who sent me an undraped photograph of their rather impressive form by way of PM earlier. :-* :y
;D ;D ;D ;D The only part of me that's 'impressive' is my belly, it leaves a concave dent in the mirror long before the rest of me is near enough to focus on it! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Thanks for the English lesson Geoff, you are prejudiced in that you, as I've noted in many of your posts, quite literally pre-judge a story based on a persons ethnicity/sexuality/colour.....the fact you seem completely oblivious to this is not your fault - it's mine for being so tolerant of ignorance :y
ps - it was, until relatively recently illegal to be gay - thats the kind of attitude that leads to a moral collapse in society, not whether couple "a" or "b" want to adopt a kid :y
You prove my point in that you pre judge and make broad assumptions based on a few words on a computer screen.
Laws are made by man. Morality is higher than law.
Again you become abusive and declare me ignorant because I disagree with you and you're not capable of accepting that people have different opinions.
When have I said that John and Furnish shouldn't adopt/have a kid owing to their sexuality? Again you're pre-judging and making assumptions.
You cant put as many daft smiley faces as you want after your posts, it still doesn't re-enforce your point.
I'd be interested to know which of my posts I have showed prejudism towards someone based on ethnicity or colour. Please enlighten me, but be very careful before you make accusations on a public forum.
your morality or mine? or his or hers? law is a consensus of society not the whims of variable morality - its often wrong (law that is) but you wouldn't ask a creationist to impose their morality on us? or a communist or fascist? thats why its a democratic process and laws are brought in and passed by people we elect :y ;D ;D
i think as usual, you need to read your own stuff back, you cant handle a counter viewpoint without quickly becoming rude and patronising in my opinion :o
i'll withdraw any hint of prejudice on your part, however, as thats not fair of me to judge you - on that you've got a point :y (apologies for the :y at the end of that sentence but :y i :y love :y their cute :ylittle :yfaces :y :y)
i used to work with a Mackem - he was a royal pain 'en all - never backed down from his blinkered world view...........good guy and a brilliant laugh all the same and never shirked a round ;)
I didn't know socialists knew what work was.
Now you're saying all mackems have a blinkered world view, is that not derogatory and stereotypical? How hypocritical of you! And who's a mackem? I'm not.
More assumptions and judgements from OOfs very own self styled bastion of tolerance and fairness.
All you're doing is copying the points I make about you now, so on that point I will victoriously move on
:) ;) :D ;D :o ::) :P ::) :y :y :y :y ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) :y :y :y :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :D ;) :D ;) :) ;D ;D ;D :o 8-) 8-) 8-) :-X ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ;D :D ;) :y :y :y 8-) :o 8-) ::) ;D :D ;) :y
why on earth would you live in Sunderland if you weren't from there then? :o
and i think i've made my point that all assumptions are spurious, dangerous and stupid........see what i did there? :y :y
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Nah, that will be Dazzle. He,s a member who likes to show his bookies biro member.
Anyway, all I said at the start of this was "congrats on the new puppy". Didnt want to start a fight. ::) Maybe we should let Catherine Tate have the last word......... ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifUQq5p5i2g
OOO being cheeky about an admin now (well almost).
He'll get his Dad on you. ;D ;D
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i want it noted that I'm a bastion by the way - thanks ;)
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yep, something like that. :y ;D
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More assumptions and veiled criticism. Who says I live in Sunderland?
But now that you have stooped that low, I'm bloody glad I live in England and not the arse end of no where. I can see why they built Hadrians wall
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;D ;D ;D indeed, Albs ;)
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i want it noted that I'm a bastion by the way - thanks ;)
I can think of another word
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More assumptions and veiled criticism. Who says I live in Sunderland?
But now that you have stooped that low, I'm bloody glad I live in England and not the arse end of no where. I can see why they built Hadrians wall
OK Geoff from not Sunderland - I dedicate this next song to you, to me and everyone on OOF :y
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvlTJrNJ5lA[/media]
and we'll call it quits ;)
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I haven't watched that video.
I'm just thinking, if you're a socialist, you're halfway on your way to being a Nazi. They liked to impose their views on other people
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I haven't watched that video.
I'm just thinking, if you're a socialist, you're halfway on your way to being a Nazi. They liked to impose their views on other people
jeezuz H Christ you're unbelievable ------ you seriously expect me to believe that you think ?
I give up on this one - call it peeps ;D
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Time for a few deep breaths methinks. Its only a forum. ;)
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I haven't watched that video.
I'm just thinking, if you're a socialist, you're halfway on your way to being a Nazi. They liked to impose their views on other people
jeezuz H Christ you're unbelievable ------ you seriously expect me to believe that you think ?
I give up on this one - call it peeps ;D
Now you're blaspheming! Do you believe in a god? Probably not as socialists think they're all demi-gods anyway ::)
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and time as this 'debate' has degenerated into what I deem to be personal to the two main contributors...... :-X