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Title: Anyone fixed an xbox360?
Post by: feeutfo on 28 December 2010, 17:34:22
...via diy methods? I have 3 quadrants constantly lit/not flashing and it's out of warranty by about 18months

Microsoft want 80/90 sobs to fix their own cock up/bad design heat sink that melts.  >:(

Not entirely sure of the cause or what the lights mean exactly, looking into it now, but there's plenty of videos on varios subjects to fix it.

Just wondered if anyones been there before and has direct experience or links....?  :'(
Title: Re: Anyone fixed an xbox360?
Post by: tidla on 28 December 2010, 17:41:27
as they so frequently round here...

get the codes read and report back!

(kids forever turning the 360 into disco lights) :)
Title: Re: Anyone fixed an xbox360?
Post by: CaptainZok on 28 December 2010, 17:42:18
Out of warranty as in the one year standard warranty or the 3 years extended warranty they offered for the red ring of death Chris?
Title: Re: Anyone fixed an xbox360?
Post by: TheBoy on 28 December 2010, 17:46:13
Ring Microsoft - for specific faults, they did the honest thing and extended to 3yrs. Unlike Fony, and their crappy gayStation 3 faults.
Title: Re: Anyone fixed an xbox360?
Post by: RobG on 28 December 2010, 17:48:02
Are you getting an error code on screen Chris :question
Title: Re: Anyone fixed an xbox360?
Post by: tidla on 28 December 2010, 17:49:36
any screen display?
Title: Re: Anyone fixed an xbox360?
Post by: Jusme on 28 December 2010, 17:51:46
Hi Chris, heard some bad stories about DIY kits bought to fix 'red ring of death'.
But my son has had 2 fixed free of charge, both consoles out of warranty.

< ' On July 5, 2007, the Vice-President of Microsoft's Interactive Entertainment Business division published an open letter recognizing the console's problems, as well as announcing a three-year warranty extension for every Xbox 360 console that experiences the "general hardware failure" indicated by three flashing red LEDs on the console '>

Sorry can't remember which site I went on to arrange a pickup and repair, but did it all online, took about 10 days to get console back, but invariably it isn't the one you sent them, that's why you have to remove your hard drive.
Just found this link in 'my favourites', http://support.xbox.com/en-gb/pages/contact-us.aspx 

Hope this helps.......  ;)
Title: Re: Anyone fixed an xbox360?
Post by: feeutfo on 28 December 2010, 18:44:29
Yeah been onto xbox support, their records show it purchased in march 06 iirc. So that's beyond the 3 year warranty. Their system has no function to allow free repair even 1day beyond that period apparently. It's had very little use, possibly proved by it lasting this long?

There is no picture at all, completely black screen.

Some videos show it coming apart very easy.
Title: Re: Anyone fixed an xbox360?
Post by: feeutfo on 28 December 2010, 18:48:40
Should add power supply light is green.
Title: Re: Anyone fixed an xbox360?
Post by: feeutfo on 28 December 2010, 19:01:17
Error code
From an unofficial web site, description unconfirmed as it says, but the code is correct via pedal trick  ;D

E08: Unconfirmed: General I/O Malfunction, could be caused by an error with any of the I/O devies such as A/V port, USB, Hard drive, DVD drive, etc. over torquing of the AV or heatsync bolts can cause this error
Title: Re: Anyone fixed an xbox360?
Post by: Martin_1962 on 28 December 2010, 19:01:56
Reflow with a hot air gun?
Title: Re: Anyone fixed an xbox360?
Post by: feeutfo on 28 December 2010, 19:05:19
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Reflow with a hot air gun?
From what I gather that's ps3 I think  :-/

Xbox is some silver compound stuff, didn't see any heat needed.  :-?
Title: Re: Anyone fixed an xbox360?
Post by: Martin_1962 on 28 December 2010, 19:07:14
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Reflow with a hot air gun?
From what I gather that's ps3 I think  :-/

Xbox is some silver compound stuff, didn't see any heat needed.  :-?

And clamping - sounds like broken solder as well.

If so - got a plastic welder here and it has already revived a YLOD PS3, however it really needs reballing for a permanent fix.
Title: Re: Anyone fixed an xbox360?
Post by: feeutfo on 28 December 2010, 19:12:52
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Reflow with a hot air gun?
From what I gather that's ps3 I think  :-/

Xbox is some silver compound stuff, didn't see any heat needed.  :-?

And clamping - sounds like broken solder as well.

If so - got a plastic welder here and it has already revived a YLOD PS3, however it really needs reballing for a permanent fix.
Yeah so I gather, got a mate locally done 3 ps3's. He talked about similar... :y
Title: Re: Anyone fixed an xbox360?
Post by: TheBoy on 28 December 2010, 19:40:53
Any 'home' fix is a temporary bodge, ultimately likely to do more damage than good. gayStation or seXBOX.

But if its fubar, wrap in blanket and switch on for a few hours trick may temporarily give it extra life.

Out of interest, on back of seXBOX is power requirements, what are these - wanting to know what 'generation' yours is for my own benefit (mine is 1st generation, I'm extpecting failure at any time ;D)
Title: Re: Anyone fixed an xbox360?
Post by: hoofing it on 28 December 2010, 19:49:04
The Microsoft warranty is 3 years although the shops only give 2 year and the option of extended warranty.
I only found this out when my sons xbox shop warranty was out I went onto the microsoft website and microsoft offer a free 3 year warranty as long as the void seal isn't damaged.
I filled a form out which asked for the serial number and which red lights were showing they paid for the postage both ways and 14 days later the xbox was back all free of charge.
Title: Re: Anyone fixed an xbox360?
Post by: tunnie on 28 December 2010, 20:03:57
3 lights constantly on? Ok this is going to sound odd, but it worked for me :)

There are two fans on the back of the xbox, find something to jam both, small screwdrivers or chop sticks work well, make sure both are jammed and won't move.

Now turn it on, wait until it 'clicks' as your forcing it into an over-heat. You want to wait until both right hand 'corners' of the circle begin to flash. Once the entire right hand side is flashing wait a further 30 seconds-minute, unplug all power, remove jamming agents, and boot!
Title: Re: Anyone fixed an xbox360?
Post by: feeutfo on 28 December 2010, 20:05:18
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Any 'home' fix is a temporary bodge, ultimately likely to do more damage than good. gayStation or seXBOX.

But if its fubar, wrap in blanket and switch on for a few hours trick may temporarily give it extra life.

Out of interest, on back of seXBOX is power requirements, what are these - wanting to know what 'generation' yours is for my own benefit (mine is 1st generation, I'm extpecting failure at any time ;D)
Towel trick is strongly advised against on most sites, and only proper fix seems to be re heat sincking, weather at home or via MSoft. Given the price and it being out of warranty I reckon it's worth DIY if I can suss it.

Mine
MFR Date 2006-01-17

12v-16.5A;5v-1A. 
Title: Re: Anyone fixed an xbox360?
Post by: TheBoy on 29 December 2010, 10:09:05
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Any 'home' fix is a temporary bodge, ultimately likely to do more damage than good. gayStation or seXBOX.

But if its fubar, wrap in blanket and switch on for a few hours trick may temporarily give it extra life.

Out of interest, on back of seXBOX is power requirements, what are these - wanting to know what 'generation' yours is for my own benefit (mine is 1st generation, I'm extpecting failure at any time ;D)
Towel trick is strongly advised against on most sites, and only proper fix seems to be re heat sincking, weather at home or via MSoft. Given the price and it being out of warranty I reckon it's worth DIY if I can suss it.

Mine
MFR Date 2006-01-17

12v-16.5A;5v-1A. 
1st gen, like mine, most prone to overheat. Note, the one I bought from Tesco last year (and returned because of it) was 1st gen!!

DIY, you cannot reflow solder properly. Hence overheating tricks to try to partially melt solder thats there. Different heatsink/clamps are purely an attempt to better clamp the CPU/GPU chips to board.
Title: Re: Anyone fixed an xbox360?
Post by: Martin_1962 on 29 December 2010, 11:14:59
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Reflow with a hot air gun?
From what I gather that's ps3 I think  :-/

Xbox is some silver compound stuff, didn't see any heat needed.  :-?

And clamping - sounds like broken solder as well.

If so - got a plastic welder here and it has already revived a YLOD PS3, however it really needs reballing for a permanent fix.
Yeah so I gather, got a mate locally done 3 ps3's. He talked about similar... :y


Does he do reballing?

The PS3 I revived lasted 4 months when so called professionally reflowed.

Is this related to the cutting back of leaded solder?
Title: Re: Anyone fixed an xbox360?
Post by: TheBoy on 29 December 2010, 16:20:17
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Reflow with a hot air gun?
From what I gather that's ps3 I think  :-/

Xbox is some silver compound stuff, didn't see any heat needed.  :-?

And clamping - sounds like broken solder as well.

If so - got a plastic welder here and it has already revived a YLOD PS3, however it really needs reballing for a permanent fix.
Yeah so I gather, got a mate locally done 3 ps3's. He talked about similar... :y


Does he do reballing?

The PS3 I revived lasted 4 months when so called professionally reflowed.

Is this related to the cutting back of leaded solder?
Any manufacturing facility, whether contracted to Fony, MS, Dell, HP et al, should have got to grips with lead-free by now - its not like its something new any more.
Title: Re: Anyone fixed an xbox360?
Post by: Proz on 29 December 2010, 16:48:34
I did the X-clamp and re-paste on mine about 2-3 yrs ago and its never missed a beat since ... seems to be hit and miss but touch wood mine has been fine  ;D
Title: Re: Anyone fixed an xbox360?
Post by: feeutfo on 29 December 2010, 18:17:24
Tried Tunnies trick, made no odds. :-/

None of the xbox fixes I've seen involve any soldering, it's all to do with the x plates and paste etc...

However I am wondering if that's the issue with mine at all? The lights come on from the outset, the moment it's turned on, so it has no time to get warm, and are now constantly flashing. Add in that there is no picture, the screen is black, and that there where some visual disturbances previously with sequential dots and lines running vertically up the screen followed by a frozen picture.
Just wondering if it's more to do with the av out? 
Title: Re: Anyone fixed an xbox360?
Post by: shane1000 on 29 December 2010, 23:22:07
i had the ring of death on mine and all i did was strip it down, gave it a good clean with a soft brush, gentle wipe over the laser with lint cloth, put it back together and works fine.  did same with a friends and that worked as well ;D