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Title: Stopping smoking
Post by: skyblue on 29 December 2010, 22:05:53
Ok people, the time has come for me to pack up as I can no longer afford it. Plus the wife hasnt had a fag for just under two wks now and we always said we would need to pack it up together but this daft old sod is still puffing away ( outside  wont smoke inside the house now) and feels that he is letting her down by doing so.

So what tips can you give me ????????? as im not sure the patches/ gum will work for me
Title: Re: Stopping smoking
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 29 December 2010, 22:07:41
I wish you every success Sky. 8-) :y
Title: Re: Stopping smoking
Post by: jonnycool on 29 December 2010, 22:12:09
A bit unconventional, but SWMBO gave up after many, many attempts using a nasal spray which gives you a hit whenever you crave. Stings a bit at first but made it relatively easy for her. Trouble is, she's addicted to the spray now!

Better than smoking though, yuk
Title: Re: Stopping smoking
Post by: Welung666 on 29 December 2010, 22:12:27
Best advice I can give is get down to your local surgery and ask to speak to the 'Stop Smoking Advisor'. You can discuss your quit plan and go for the best treatment for stopping.

I gave up just under 2 years ago with SWMBO, although I since restarted she hasn't but I don't smoke anywhere near to what I used to and can go a day or two without one. I'm due to see the SSA next week to start a new treatment to quit again :y

Oh and if you feel the need to munch once you've stopped try grapes, carrot sticks, anything but crisps and chocolate as you'll pile the pounds on and walk the dog a lot ;) :y
Title: Re: Stopping smoking
Post by: albitz on 29 December 2010, 22:13:03
Gum worked for me, although it is to an extent addictive if you stay on it too long. I think the NRT products in general can help if you have already decided to give up, but they wont do the job for you. :y
You will be amazed though how much healthier and fitter you feel in the not too distant future. ;)
Title: Re: Stopping smoking
Post by: skyblue on 29 December 2010, 22:13:26
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I wish you every success Sky. 8-) :y


Thank you kind sir.... I know its gonna be tough  but just think of all the pennies we will save if we are both successful in kicking the weed ;)
Title: Re: Stopping smoking
Post by: skyblue on 29 December 2010, 22:19:09
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Gum worked for me, although it is to an extent addictive if you stay on it too long. I think the NRT products in general can help if you have already decided to give up, but they wont do the job for you. :y
You will be amazed though how much healthier and fitter you feel in the not too distant future. ;)

I have stopped before for 9 months ( when they put 25p on a packet ) and did it cold turkey with that bit between my teeth ... but old fools do return to old habbits if they alow themselfs to do it :( :( :(
Title: Re: Stopping smoking
Post by: Banjax on 29 December 2010, 22:21:49
good luck - i've tried and failed several times - keeping the weight off and not being cranky is the worst  :o

but i have little or no willpower - you'll be fine ;D
Title: Re: Stopping smoking
Post by: skyblue on 29 December 2010, 22:22:01
Sorry Albs... Well done for kicking the habbit ... stay strong my son and dont give the gov anymore money that you have too ;) :y
Title: Re: Stopping smoking
Post by: BigAl on 29 December 2010, 22:23:34
SWMBO got tablets form the quack, directions were to take the tablets once a day and continue to smoke as normal, until you actually want to stop, then just stop - she stopped smoking after 2 weeks on the tablets
Title: Re: Stopping smoking
Post by: skyblue on 29 December 2010, 22:24:11
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good luck - i've tried and failed several times - keeping the weight off and not being cranky is the worst  :o

but i have little or no willpower - you'll be fine ;D


[size=24]WHAT YOU TALKING ABOUT WILLIS[/size]  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Stopping smoking
Post by: Banjax on 29 December 2010, 22:26:21
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good luck - i've tried and failed several times - keeping the weight off and not being cranky is the worst  :o

but i have little or no willpower - you'll be fine ;D


[size=24]WHAT YOU TALKING ABOUT WILLIS[/size]  ;D ;D ;D ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D - yeah this is me in a good mood with plenty of fags - you wait til i try kicking them in the new year  ;D ;D


Title: Re: Stopping smoking
Post by: skyblue on 29 December 2010, 22:26:32
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SWMBO got tablets form the quack, directions were to take the tablets once a day and continue to smoke as normal, until you actually want to stop, then just stop - she stopped smoking after 2 weeks on the tablets


Thats intresting.. migt have to give the GP a call in the morning  :y :y :y :y
Title: Re: Stopping smoking
Post by: albitz on 29 December 2010, 22:26:41
I used to love a smoke, smoked approx. 40 rollups a day and couldnt imagine living without it. But in May 2000 I convinced myself that it was going to kill me sooner rather than later and when I had brainwashed myself sufficiently it suddenly became a lot easier than all my previous attempts.
I hate smoking now, I think its disgusting. ;D
Title: Re: Stopping smoking
Post by: Banjax on 29 December 2010, 22:28:20
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I used to love a smoke, smoked approx. 40 rollups a day and couldnt imagine living without it. But in May 2000 I convinced myself that it was going to kill me sooner rather than later and when I had brainwashed myself sufficiently it suddenly became a lot easier than all my previous attempts.
I hate smoking now, I think its disgusting. ;D

i would stop, but my mama didnt raise no quitters  ;D
Title: Re: Stopping smoking
Post by: albitz on 29 December 2010, 22:28:38
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good luck - i've tried and failed several times - keeping the weight off and not being cranky is the worst  :o

but i have little or no willpower - you'll be fine ;D

So, you really are Wee Jimmy Cranky. ::) ;D ;D
Title: Re: Stopping smoking
Post by: Banjax on 29 December 2010, 22:30:32
fan-dabi-dozi Albs  :P
Title: Re: Stopping smoking
Post by: skyblue on 29 December 2010, 22:31:17
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good luck - i've tried and failed several times - keeping the weight off and not being cranky is the worst  :o

but i have little or no willpower - you'll be fine ;D


[size=24]WHAT YOU TALKING ABOUT WILLIS[/size]  ;D ;D ;D ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D - yeah this is me in a good mood with plenty of fags - you wait til i try kicking them in the new year  ;D ;D
I will set you a challenge then that I can last longer without a fag than you...... If I win you have to wear an England shirt  for a wk around sweaty land... if I loose I will wear a skirt ( kilt) for a wk down here ::) :y
Title: Re: Stopping smoking
Post by: skyblue on 29 December 2010, 22:36:58
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Best advice I can give is get down to your local surgery and ask to speak to the 'Stop Smoking Advisor'. You can discuss your quit plan and go for the best treatment for stopping.

I gave up just under 2 years ago with SWMBO, although I since restarted she hasn't but I don't smoke anywhere near to what I used to and can go a day or two without one. I'm due to see the SSA next week to start a new treatment to quit again :y

Oh and if you feel the need to munch once you've stopped try grapes, carrot sticks, anything but crisps and chocolate as you'll pile the pounds on and walk the dog a lot ;) :y


 Cheers welung.. all advice taken in but if we ever meet and I have put on a few pounds you will know I was eating the choc bars instead of fruit  ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Stopping smoking
Post by: shane1000 on 29 December 2010, 23:10:14
i gave up last july with the aid of patches/inhilator after going to my doctor for help...and its all free if you go through the doctor   best thing i've ever done  good luck :)
Title: Re: Stopping smoking
Post by: feeutfo on 29 December 2010, 23:22:17
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I used to love a smoke, smoked approx. 40 rollups a day and couldnt imagine living without it. But in May 2000 I convinced myself that it was going to kill me sooner rather than later and when I had brainwashed myself sufficiently it suddenly became a lot easier than all my previous attempts.
I hate smoking now, I think its disgusting. ;D
As Albs says IMO. I had to hate it to give up, in fact I did hate it. I hated the smell on me, I hated the smell in the car, I hated the smell of ash tray that I couldn't smell but others could a mile off, I hated even more the fact that someone was profiting out of my inevitable Ill health by selling me a potently addictive drug. Legal drug dealing. Hate the fact others would voice their disgust at me unwittingly blowing smoke in their direction and wondering what the hell their problem was me smoking in the same room as them, i was completely oblivious to it all.

Find a way or an angle, like your wires health or even your own, get angry and just decide, and I don't mean "just decide" like it's easy, it isn't. I mean DECIDE! No rather more!


Very best of belligerent luck. :y 
Title: Re: Stopping smoking
Post by: skyblue on 29 December 2010, 23:44:45
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I used to love a smoke, smoked approx. 40 rollups a day and couldnt imagine living without it. But in May 2000 I convinced myself that it was going to kill me sooner rather than later and when I had brainwashed myself sufficiently it suddenly became a lot easier than all my previous attempts.
I hate smoking now, I think its disgusting. ;D
As Albs says IMO. I had to hate it to give up, in fact I did hate it. I hated the smell on me, I hated the smell in the car, I hated the smell of ash tray that I couldn't smell but others could a mile off, I hated even more the fact that someone was profiting out of my inevitable Ill health by selling me a potently addictive drug. Legal drug dealing. Hate the fact others would voice their disgust at me unwittingly blowing smoke in their direction and wondering what the hell their problem was me smoking in the same room as them, i was completely oblivious to it all.

Find a way or an angle, like your wires health or even your own, get angry and just decide, and I don't mean "just decide" like it's easy, it isn't. I mean DECIDE! No rather more!


Very best of belligerent luck. :y 
:y :y :y :y :y :y Im gonna be shouting from the rooftops I fookin hate em... very soon  ;) ;D

Some very good points tho Chris/Albs
I hate the car stinking of fags, the smell of a  ashtray  is worse than a blocked sewer but tjhe biggest one is .... why the fook am I giving the gov more money to waste on so loony scheme :( :( :( :(
Title: Re: Stopping smoking
Post by: Mysteryman on 30 December 2010, 10:18:21
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Gum worked for me, although it is to an extent addictive if you stay on it too long. I think the NRT products in general can help if you have already decided to give up, but they wont do the job for you. :y
You will be amazed though how much healthier and fitter you feel in the not too distant future. ;)


Been on the gum for 2 1/2 years now. I love it. ;D
Title: Re: Stopping smoking
Post by: Andy B on 30 December 2010, 10:32:05
Stopping smoking is easy .... I did it loads of times  ::) ::) ::)
Serioulsy, do as Welung suggests & seek help from a smoking cessation course. I used Zyban via the cessation group at work, but Mrs Andy B used its replacement of Champix. These drugs do help, but you still need to want to stop.
Good luck!  :y  :y  :y  :y

Coming up 9 years for me.  :-X
Title: Re: Stopping smoking
Post by: TheBoy on 30 December 2010, 10:34:03
2 very good friends of mine have managed to kick it, and stay kicked off for a few years, where previous attempts failed.

1 had to for health reasons - he just kicked it without help. His wife put aside all the money that was going on tobacco into a jar (not a non-substantial sum), and he'd use that to buy himself a little gift for himself.

The other guy went had had his head screwed with (hypnotism) - he has described what he remembers from the (single) session. It seems his mind afterwards swapped the need for nicotine for a need for water. He drank water like it was going out of fashion for a few weeks, but he always said that since the session, he never seriously craved another fag. But I know another guy who has used the same hypnotist, unsuccessfully.

My oldest brother used to smoke no end, but always just seemed to have the ability to stop when he desired, and then would start again years later, and give up again.


Everybody, I believe, is different in their needs to enable them to give up.
Title: Re: Stopping smoking
Post by: feeutfo on 30 December 2010, 10:53:43
Hypnosis is interesting, I can't understand it and don't believe in it, but would like experience it just to see.  :-?

There's a theory the individual needs to be susceptible or accepting of hypnosis  :-? Some just aren't built that way.

But who cares, what ever works.... :y
Title: Re: Stopping smoking
Post by: Hannah Judes Dad on 30 December 2010, 11:23:39
One of the easiest ways to give up smoking is to stop buying them in the first place !
I can say that with tongue in cheek because I have never had one so don't have the craving for them.
I am too old to start on them now.
The other reasons for not starting are that they killed my mum at the age of 53 and I don't want to smell like an ashtray either.
Good luck with stopping and if you don't want to give the government any more tax just get a £10 note roll it up and set fire to it,you have still burnt your money away but the government gets nothing from it.
Title: Re: Stopping smoking
Post by: feeutfo on 30 December 2010, 11:31:15
Just to add, retired lady over the road smoked all her life and gave up instantly after hypnosis. All other avenues failed.
Title: Re: Stopping smoking
Post by: Richie London on 30 December 2010, 11:39:15
good luck with quitting, ive done it for the last 4 years now. couldnt get on with the patches so started again. its us smokers and drinkers that keep the country going. ;)
Title: Re: Stopping smoking
Post by: Gaffers on 30 December 2010, 16:34:48
Like TB said, everyone one is different.  I managed to quit for several years cold turkey.  The second time I used lozenges which you put under your tongue, they give you a little hit rather than a steady stream like patches which I found useless and always falling off.  I got an endless supply through the NHS quitting service for next to nothing  :y
Title: Re: Stopping smoking
Post by: TheBoy on 30 December 2010, 17:27:03
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Hypnosis is interesting, I can't understand it and don't believe in it, but would like experience it just to see.  :-?

There's a theory the individual needs to be susceptible or accepting of hypnosis  :-? Some just aren't built that way.

But who cares, what ever works.... :y
Not sure I'd want somebody screwing with my subconscience - I'm quite sure there is enough dangerous stuff in there already.

I was cynical, he was equally cynical, but when he described what he remembered (about drinking water when he felt like a fag), and actually see him drink gallons of it, and never touch a ciggy again (even though his wife still smokes), there must be something there. For some, anyway.
Title: Re: Stopping smoking
Post by: Lazydocker on 30 December 2010, 22:52:41
There's a very good book by Allen Carr, http://www.amazon.co.uk/Allen-Carrs-Easy-Stop-Smoking/dp/014103940X/ref=tmm_pap_title_0/279-7541990-2016736, I expect the local library will have a few copies :y

I should add that, although I have read most of it, I wasn't ready to stop so didn't finish the book ::) ;)
Title: Re: Stopping smoking
Post by: jonnycool on 30 December 2010, 23:14:47
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good luck with quitting, ive done it for the last 4 years now. couldnt get on with the patches so started again. its us smokers and drinkers that keep the country going. ;)
You'll keep a few nurses and doctors busy anyway mate  ;)
Title: Re: Stopping smoking
Post by: Vamps on 30 December 2010, 23:21:31
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good luck with quitting, ive done it for the last 4 years now. couldnt get on with the patches so started again. its us smokers and drinkers that keep the country going. ;)
You'll keep a few nurses and doctors busy anyway mate  ;)

Been there done that, Lung Cancer when I was 44,(2002) was not even poorly when diagnosed, been knackered since treatment..... :( :( :(
Title: Re: Stopping smoking
Post by: Martin_1962 on 31 December 2010, 00:10:34
Lost 2 grandparents to smoking induced cancer - not likely to start!
Title: Re: Stopping smoking
Post by: Plomien on 31 December 2010, 08:07:35
Some people have recommend this http://www.grabitnow.com/ecamp/daily
Electronic HealthSafe Cigarette
The Easy and Painless Way to Give Up Smoking
£14.24
there is 16 hours left on this offer
Title: Re: Stopping smoking
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 31 December 2010, 09:05:08
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Some people have recommend this http://www.grabitnow.com/ecamp/daily
Electronic HealthSafe Cigarette
The Easy and Painless Way to Give Up Smoking
£14.24
there is 16 hours left on this offer


A possible alternative indeed P  :y -  some further backround for those interested........


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_cigarette
Title: Re: Stopping smoking
Post by: TheBoy on 31 December 2010, 09:53:30
I was 'lucky' - I tried smoking too early (err, about 6 or 7yrs old), and was so violently sick within seconds, I never took it up - despite 2 of my brothers smoking, dad a part time smoker, and mum working for Rothmans, so cheap fags available.

Occasionally, on a night out, I may enjoy a cigar - but I've never smoked enough to ever start a habit.
Title: Re: Stopping smoking
Post by: MikeDundee on 31 December 2010, 14:24:36
I am just about to buy another 200 cigs :y
Title: Re: Stopping smoking
Post by: SJKOO01 on 31 December 2010, 16:32:39
My other half has tried those electronic cig's.  To be honest, don't even bother with them, as they don't last very long, even the better quality ones.  And you'll end up spending more money replacing them, than actually buying the real things.

You could always try this
http://smokefree.nhs.uk/
Title: Re: Stopping smoking
Post by: skyblue on 31 December 2010, 16:40:40
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I am just about to buy another 200 cigs :y


WILL YOU FACK OFFFF or I will have to kill ya ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Stopping smoking
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 31 December 2010, 18:54:41
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WILL YOU FACK OFFFF or I will have to kill ya ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Is that the withdrawal symptoms kicking in already Sky?  ;D ;D ;D :y
Title: Re: Stopping smoking
Post by: skyblue on 31 December 2010, 20:14:24
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WILL YOU FACK OFFFF or I will have to kill ya ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Is that the withdrawal symptoms kicking in already Sky?  ;D ;D ;D :y


I could KILL for one right now but I wont give in to the bloody weed tho ;) :D
Title: Re: Stopping smoking
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 31 December 2010, 20:27:34
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WILL YOU FACK OFFFF or I will have to kill ya ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Is that the withdrawal symptoms kicking in already Sky?  ;D ;D ;D :y


I could KILL for one right now but I wont give in to the bloody weed tho ;) :D


Well done Sky, it must be tough but it'll be worth it eventually. 8-) :y :y
Title: Re: Stopping smoking
Post by: skyblue on 31 December 2010, 20:32:42
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WILL YOU FACK OFFFF or I will have to kill ya ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Is that the withdrawal symptoms kicking in already Sky?  ;D ;D ;D :y


I could KILL for one right now but I wont give in to the bloody weed tho ;) :D


Well done Sky, it must be tough but it'll be worth it eventually. 8-) :y :y


A £151 quid  :o :o :o :o :o  saving a month so it will be worth this in the long run
Title: Re: Stopping smoking
Post by: millwall on 31 December 2010, 20:34:12
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WILL YOU FACK OFFFF or I will have to kill ya ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Is that the withdrawal symptoms kicking in already Sky?  ;D ;D ;D :y


I could KILL for one right now but I wont give in to the bloody weed tho ;) :D


Well done Sky, it must be tough but it'll be worth it eventually. 8-) :y :y


A £151 quid  :o :o :o :o :o  saving a month so it will be worth this in the long run
stick with it mate  DONT light up again :y
Title: Re: Stopping smoking
Post by: Martin_1962 on 31 December 2010, 22:00:50
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WILL YOU FACK OFFFF or I will have to kill ya ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Is that the withdrawal symptoms kicking in already Sky?  ;D ;D ;D :y


I could KILL for one right now but I wont give in to the bloody weed tho ;) :D


Better than DYING for one.

Two proven so far in my family.

Both with cancer.
Title: Re: Stopping smoking
Post by: skyblue on 31 December 2010, 22:05:40
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I am just about to buy another 200 cigs :y


WILL YOU FACK OFFFF or I will have to kill ya ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Is that the withdrawal symptoms kicking in already Sky?  ;D ;D ;D :y


I could KILL for one right now but I wont give in to the bloody weed tho ;) :D


Better than DYING for one.

Two proven so far in my family.

Both with cancer.


 I understand ya pain Martin... I just hope I can do what maybe they tried to do but failed  :( :( :( :(
Title: Re: Stopping smoking
Post by: Martin_1962 on 31 December 2010, 22:09:23
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WILL YOU FACK OFFFF or I will have to kill ya ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Is that the withdrawal symptoms kicking in already Sky?  ;D ;D ;D :y


I could KILL for one right now but I wont give in to the bloody weed tho ;) :D


Better than DYING for one.

Two proven so far in my family.

Both with cancer.


 I understand ya pain Martin... I just hope I can do what maybe they tried to do but failed  :( :( :( :(


This was from when smoking was common and almost expected, but I know one thing I never will.

I have also seen the addictiveness of tobacco first hand as a friend used to smoke resin occasionally - every couple of weeks or so. Then he tried a joint, eventually ended up buying packets of fags - all because he tried a joint (where they ruin it with tobacco). Last I heard he was still addicted but trying to stop.

I will state here that in a joint the tobacco is the addictive part.
Title: Re: Stopping smoking
Post by: Lazydocker on 01 January 2011, 02:42:59
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My other half has tried those electronic cig's.  To be honest, don't even bother with them, as they don't last very long, even the better quality ones.  And you'll end up spending more money replacing them, than actually buying the real things.

You could always try this
http://smokefree.nhs.uk/

Wife and I both had them before when we gave up... I went from 20/day to 15 (max)/week using an ecig in between... In fact, I plan to dig them out again when we give up soon :y :y
Title: Re: Stopping smoking
Post by: mrcnc53 on 01 January 2011, 07:22:15
Having a heart attack last september was my
motivation to give up the weed.  And do I feel
better for it.
Title: Re: Stopping smoking
Post by: middy on 01 January 2011, 16:42:55
It took me several years of trying. I used nicotiene gum which i became addicted to. But that was part of the process, i had managed to transfer my addiction away from the act of smoking. After a year on the nico gum i crossed over to ordinary gum, thus transferring my addiction elsewhere again. A year or so later and the laxative effects of my fave minty gum was becomming a pain in the A*** ! so i started to ween myself off. If I could offer constructive advice it would be this
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When you inhale smoke, you inhale deeper thereby you inhale more air as well as smoke. Try breathing deeply (without the fag !) you will find that half of the sensation from smoking is in fact.........fresh air !

The more you talk to people about how you are doing during you current attempt, the more it becomes a topic of conversation, the more it is in your mind, the more you have to think about it, the more likely it is that you will give into temptation.

If you fall off the wagon and start smoking then really go for it ,,,,,,,,seriously,,,,,,puff away till you puke. If you managed to stay off them for 2 weeks chances are if you go directly back to your usual 40 a day habit you wont like it one little bit and wont want to smoke the next day. Have 1 or 2 and you will just slide gradually back into full time smoking.

Dont feel guilty about falling off the wagon, this will just raise you anxiety level and tell your brain to demand nicotein. Accept what you did, understand why you did it and move on.

If you go back to smoking full time, dont tell yourself that you failed, you just have'nt achieved your objective yet  :y

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