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Title: Ccrt700 sim card
Post by: StuPot100 on 08 April 2010, 21:20:50
Do u have to use a special sim card in the ccrt700 or is it sim card straight from my phone
Title: Re: Ccrt700 sim card
Post by: Welung666 on 08 April 2010, 21:22:22
It needs to be a full (credit card) sized card. I used a new card from O2 and threw the sim part out, slip ofe tape on the back and clip my normal sim into the hole :P

You managed to get a CCRT700 then?
Title: Re: Ccrt700 sim card
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 08 April 2010, 21:24:03
No you cant i dont think, they are a different frequency range, someone will confirm later.  I just cant remeber  which one it is, plus I think you are limted on providers as well. 

 :y
Title: Re: Ccrt700 sim card
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 08 April 2010, 21:24:37
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It needs to be a full (credit card) sized card. I used a new card from O2 and threw the sim part out, slip ofe tape on the back and clip my normal sim into the hole :P

You managed to get a CCRT700 then?

Forgot to add that bit.   :-[
Title: Re: Ccrt700 sim card
Post by: Welung666 on 08 April 2010, 21:25:10
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No you cant i dont think, they are a different frequency range, someone will confirm later.  I just cant remeber  which one it is, plus I think you are limted on providers as well. 

 :y

Correct, O2 or Vodafone only 900 and 1800 IIRC
Title: Re: Ccrt700 sim card
Post by: TheBoy on 08 April 2010, 21:28:47
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No you cant i dont think, they are a different frequency range, someone will confirm later.  I just cant remeber  which one it is, plus I think you are limted on providers as well. 

 :y

Correct, O2 or Vodafone only 900 and 1800 IIRC
to clarify, ccrt700 is 900Mhz only, which limits you to o2 & voda (but voda are on the shitlist now, as I'm sick of their BS).
Title: Re: Ccrt700 sim card
Post by: Sixstring on 08 April 2010, 21:31:27
Might I add that Tesco, Fresh, and Lebara will NOT work, even though they roam on 1800mhz via the O2 network.

AND the 3G cards give issues with the CCRT700 too, causing "freeze"

Sorry to hyjack the thread, used to fit car kits for a living......
Title: Re: Ccrt700 sim card
Post by: StuPot100 on 08 April 2010, 21:32:20
Yes I did thanks got one from lincs Robert it's finished of the inside of the car a treat bloody marvelous this site
Title: Re: Ccrt700 sim card
Post by: TheBoy on 08 April 2010, 21:32:56
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Might I add that Tesco, Fresh, and Lebara will NOT work, even though they roam on 1800mhz via the O2 network.

AND the 3G cards give issues with the CCRT700 too, causing "freeze"

Sorry to hyjack the thread, used to fit car kits for a living......
Certainly, Tesco works on 900Mhz (via O2), thus should work in ccrt700
Title: Re: Ccrt700 sim card
Post by: STMO999 on 08 April 2010, 21:33:44
Had this on my alfa, would only work with vodaphone.
Title: Re: Ccrt700 sim card
Post by: StuPot100 on 08 April 2010, 21:36:38
I'm with o2 and rang them today for code and explained that it goes in a ccrt700 but didn't say I needed a credit card size sim where can I get 1
Title: Re: Ccrt700 sim card
Post by: TheBoy on 08 April 2010, 21:38:00
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I'm with o2 and rang them today for code and explained that it goes in a ccrt700 but didn't say I needed a credit card size sim where can I get 1
All SIMs are provided as CC size - for most phones you push the small bit out.
Title: Re: Ccrt700 sim card
Post by: StuPot100 on 08 April 2010, 21:38:06
I fitted cd and radio and picked me missus up and nearly blew her eardrums out lol
Title: Re: Ccrt700 sim card
Post by: tunnie on 08 April 2010, 21:38:31
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I'm with o2 and rang them today for code and explained that it goes in a ccrt700 but didn't say I needed a credit card size sim where can I get 1

What what do they know about Vx head units? Just ask for a SIM, it will come fully size, just don't push it out.
Title: Re: Ccrt700 sim card
Post by: tunnie on 08 April 2010, 21:39:29
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I fitted cd and radio and picked me missus up and nearly blew her eardrums out lol

If you did not replace the Bose speakers and wiring, it will blow the headunit, not kidding, literally blow ;)

Replacement headunit will be 4 Ohm, Bose is 2Ohm
Title: Re: Ccrt700 sim card
Post by: Sixstring on 08 April 2010, 21:47:01
SORRY....should have said it roams on O2 on 900 mhz, but disagree with TB about Tesco mobile, gives probs on CCRT700 because it only ROAMS on O2, but day to day runs via another network, so when not roaming, CCRT700 "drops out" and therefore will not work on the other network, causing problems.
Title: Re: Ccrt700 sim card
Post by: StuPot100 on 08 April 2010, 21:49:00
Just get a o2 card then push out the sim card put tape on back and stick ur sim on it then or do u think o2 would supply another sim to match me phone
Title: Re: Ccrt700 sim card
Post by: TheBoy on 08 April 2010, 21:49:41
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SORRY....should have said it roams on O2 on 900 mhz, but disagree with TB about Tesco mobile, gives probs on CCRT700 because it only ROAMS on O2, but day to day runs via another network, so when not roaming, CCRT700 "drops out" and therefore will not work on the other network, causing problems.
Tesco SIM only uses O2 network in UK.
Title: Re: Ccrt700 sim card
Post by: Sixstring on 08 April 2010, 21:51:26
Ordinary non 3G payg 02 sim card will be fine, don't push it out of its credit card, and bobs your uncle..........mine runs on vodafone payg, but your choice!!

Mike.
Title: Re: Ccrt700 sim card
Post by: tunnie on 08 April 2010, 21:54:01
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SORRY....should have said it roams on O2 on 900 mhz, but disagree with TB about Tesco mobile, gives probs on CCRT700 because it only ROAMS on O2, but day to day runs via another network, so when not roaming, CCRT700 "drops out" and therefore will not work on the other network, causing problems.

Sorry you got that one wrong way around Tesco only works on 900 Mhz, taken from Ofcoms report:

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Customers who value good quality, basic services may have to migrate to one of the
1800MHz operators.  Tesco Mobile, with its joint venture with O2, may have difficulty in
remaining a viable force in the UK market as the services its customers currently enjoy can
only be received on competitors’ networks.

Title: Re: Ccrt700 sim card
Post by: StuPot100 on 08 April 2010, 21:56:06
I'm on pay monthly so do u rekon o2 would duplcate a sim so I don't have to change me number then
Title: Re: Ccrt700 sim card
Post by: TheBoy on 08 April 2010, 21:57:25
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I'm on pay monthly so do u rekon o2 would duplcate a sim so I don't have to change me number then
Not 2 sims with same number.
Title: Re: Ccrt700 sim card
Post by: tunnie on 08 April 2010, 21:58:27
can't be duplicated, get a PAYG sim and forward calls from your contract phone....
Title: Re: Ccrt700 sim card
Post by: TheBoy on 08 April 2010, 21:58:54
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SORRY....should have said it roams on O2 on 900 mhz, but disagree with TB about Tesco mobile, gives probs on CCRT700 because it only ROAMS on O2, but day to day runs via another network, so when not roaming, CCRT700 "drops out" and therefore will not work on the other network, causing problems.

Sorry you got that one wrong way around Tesco only works on 900 Mhz, taken from Ofcoms report:

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Customers who value good quality, basic services may have to migrate to one of the
1800MHz operators.  Tesco Mobile, with its joint venture with O2, may have difficulty in
remaining a viable force in the UK market as the services its customers currently enjoy can
only be received on competitors’ networks.

Tunnie, I think Tesco works on whatever O2 use - 900GSM, 1800GSM and UTMS type services.

Tesco Mobile is a JV between Tesco and O2
Title: Re: Ccrt700 sim card
Post by: StuPot100 on 08 April 2010, 21:59:32
This would also save taking it out me iPhone
Title: Re: Ccrt700 sim card
Post by: tunnie on 08 April 2010, 22:01:33
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SORRY....should have said it roams on O2 on 900 mhz, but disagree with TB about Tesco mobile, gives probs on CCRT700 because it only ROAMS on O2, but day to day runs via another network, so when not roaming, CCRT700 "drops out" and therefore will not work on the other network, causing problems.

Sorry you got that one wrong way around Tesco only works on 900 Mhz, taken from Ofcoms report:

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Customers who value good quality, basic services may have to migrate to one of the
1800MHz operators.  Tesco Mobile, with its joint venture with O2, may have difficulty in
remaining a viable force in the UK market as the services its customers currently enjoy can
only be received on competitors’ networks.

Tunnie, I think Tesco works on whatever O2 use - 900GSM, 1800GSM and UTMS type services.

Tesco Mobile is a JV between Tesco and O2

Thought as part of the deal, Tesco got stuffed with 900 range, as to limit their competitiveness to O2
Title: Re: Ccrt700 sim card
Post by: TheBoy on 08 April 2010, 22:01:44
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This would also save taking it out me iPhone
Get a bluetooth kit, much easier.

With the crApple gayPhone, be careful which bluetooth kit you get
Title: Re: Ccrt700 sim card
Post by: TheBoy on 08 April 2010, 22:02:14
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SORRY....should have said it roams on O2 on 900 mhz, but disagree with TB about Tesco mobile, gives probs on CCRT700 because it only ROAMS on O2, but day to day runs via another network, so when not roaming, CCRT700 "drops out" and therefore will not work on the other network, causing problems.

Sorry you got that one wrong way around Tesco only works on 900 Mhz, taken from Ofcoms report:

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Customers who value good quality, basic services may have to migrate to one of the
1800MHz operators.  Tesco Mobile, with its joint venture with O2, may have difficulty in
remaining a viable force in the UK market as the services its customers currently enjoy can
only be received on competitors’ networks.

Tunnie, I think Tesco works on whatever O2 use - 900GSM, 1800GSM and UTMS type services.

Tesco Mobile is a JV between Tesco and O2

Thought as part of the deal, Tesco got stuffed with 900 range, as to limit their competitiveness to O2
Certainly 3g works on Tesco Mobiile ;)
Title: Re: Ccrt700 sim card
Post by: TheBoy on 08 April 2010, 22:03:28
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SORRY....should have said it roams on O2 on 900 mhz, but disagree with TB about Tesco mobile, gives probs on CCRT700 because it only ROAMS on O2, but day to day runs via another network, so when not roaming, CCRT700 "drops out" and therefore will not work on the other network, causing problems.

Sorry you got that one wrong way around Tesco only works on 900 Mhz, taken from Ofcoms report:

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Customers who value good quality, basic services may have to migrate to one of the
1800MHz operators.  Tesco Mobile, with its joint venture with O2, may have difficulty in
remaining a viable force in the UK market as the services its customers currently enjoy can
only be received on competitors’ networks.

Tunnie, I think Tesco works on whatever O2 use - 900GSM, 1800GSM and UTMS type services.

Tesco Mobile is a JV between Tesco and O2

Thought as part of the deal, Tesco got stuffed with 900 range, as to limit their competitiveness to O2
Oh, and 900Mhz is a better frequency than 1800Mhz ;) ;)


Mind you, I'd settle for Vodafone to get any bloody frequency up here, useless tinkers.
Title: Re: Ccrt700 sim card
Post by: StuPot100 on 08 April 2010, 22:06:51
Ok il get normal pay as u go and forward me calls then cheers :D :y
Title: Re: Ccrt700 sim card
Post by: Sixstring on 08 April 2010, 22:07:34
Confused now.........it states "service can only be recieved on COMPETITORS networks".....does that mean its on 02 or not, as my information (from Parrot uk) says Tesco only ROAMS on 02, but runs on an agreement with ORANGE/VIRGIN networks, that CCRT700 will not take.
Don't want to be argumentative, but would like to clarify this once and for all, as other kit I install (autodiallers via cellular network) use the voda/02 nets, but tesco have the extra value top-up feature and would be cheaper!!
Title: Re: Ccrt700 sim card
Post by: tunnie on 08 April 2010, 22:12:26
As mentioned Tesco is in agreement with o2, its a deal with them, has nothing to do with Orange.

Virgin is an MVNO of T-Mobile, and has absolutely nothing to do with Orange, o2 or Tesco!  ;)
Title: Re: Ccrt700 sim card
Post by: Sixstring on 08 April 2010, 22:17:28
Mmm. thought parrot may have got it a bit wrong, will ring their install dept in the morning, they must have got their info from somewhere reliable to publish it in a "techtalk" will be surprised if they are right, cos it doesnt quite make sense, does it?
Title: Re: Ccrt700 sim card
Post by: TheBoy on 08 April 2010, 22:17:33
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Confused now.........it states "service can only be recieved on COMPETITORS networks".....does that mean its on 02 or not, as my information (from Parrot uk) says Tesco only ROAMS on 02, but runs on an agreement with ORANGE/VIRGIN networks, that CCRT700 will not take.
Don't want to be argumentative, but would like to clarify this once and for all, as other kit I install (autodiallers via cellular network) use the voda/02 nets, but tesco have the extra value top-up feature and would be cheaper!!
Tesco runs on top of O2.  Tesco Mobile is a JV between Tesco Ltd and O2, so would only ever use O2 ;)
Title: Re: Ccrt700 sim card
Post by: tunnie on 08 April 2010, 22:19:16
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Mmm. thought parrot may have got it a bit wrong, will ring their install dept in the morning, they must have got their info from somewhere reliable to publish it in a "techtalk" will be surprised if they are right, cos it doesnt quite make sense, does it?

http://about.virginmobile.com/aboutus/about/history/

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...we are an MVNO, we operate a virtual network providing a broad range of mobile communications services to our customers over T-Mobile's network under our non-exclusive, minimum ten year term....
Title: Re: Ccrt700 sim card
Post by: Sixstring on 09 April 2010, 11:53:02
UPDATE.....
Spoke to Parrot today, who confirmed "ah....we don't always get it dead right....sorry."

SO WHY PUBLISH IT IN A TECHTALK THEN??

All the engineers (like me) will take it as gospel. DOH!!
Title: Re: Ccrt700 sim card
Post by: zirk on 09 April 2010, 12:42:50
Vodafone do a dual sim on contract only (or use to), a second transparent number that sits on and shares your main account.

Down side is the outgoing numbers are different and both sims no longer support GPRS or 3g, not a problem for the Head Unit, could be for the one in your pocket though.
Title: Re: Ccrt700 sim card
Post by: Welung666 on 09 April 2010, 13:00:51
I've got a couple of new O2 PAYG sims here, still sealed if you want one?
Title: Re: Ccrt700 sim card
Post by: StuPot100 on 09 April 2010, 13:07:54
Na ur alrite ta found a sealed pay as u go on o2 I'll give it a go cheers anyway :) :y
Title: Re: Ccrt700 sim card
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 09 April 2010, 14:41:10
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UPDATE.....
Spoke to Parrot today, who confirmed "ah....we don't always get it dead right....sorry."

SO WHY PUBLISH IT IN A TECHTALK THEN??

All the engineers (like me) will take it as gospel. DOH!!

I haven't really understood much of the technical jargon in this thread, but at last comprehend that bit..............the problem with a dead parrot.......sketch..........Monty Python.............. ::) ::) ::) ::) :D :D :D :D

Sorry, I'll get off this thread quick!! :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[
Title: Re: Ccrt700 sim card
Post by: Welung666 on 09 April 2010, 15:44:51
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UPDATE.....
Spoke to Parrot today, who confirmed "ah....we don't always get it dead right....sorry."

SO WHY PUBLISH IT IN A TECHTALK THEN??

All the engineers (like me) will take it as gospel. DOH!!

I haven't really understood much of the technical jargon in this thread, but at last comprehend that bit..............the problem with a dead parrot.......sketch..........Monty Python.............. ::) ::) ::) ::) :D :D :D :D

Sorry, I'll get off this thread quick!! :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[


(http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/08_02/deadparrot1308_468x333.jpg)
Title: Re: Ccrt700 sim card
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 09 April 2010, 16:02:53
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UPDATE.....
Spoke to Parrot today, who confirmed "ah....we don't always get it dead right....sorry."

SO WHY PUBLISH IT IN A TECHTALK THEN??

All the engineers (like me) will take it as gospel. DOH!!

I haven't really understood much of the technical jargon in this thread, but at last comprehend that bit..............the problem with a dead parrot.......sketch..........Monty Python.............. ::) ::) ::) ::) :D :D :D :D

Sorry, I'll get off this thread quick!! :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[


(http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/08_02/deadparrot1308_468x333.jpg)


A classic Welung, and no talk of sim cards then!! ::) ::) :D :D :D :D ;)
Title: Re: Ccrt700 sim card
Post by: Welung666 on 09 April 2010, 17:49:02
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UPDATE.....
Spoke to Parrot today, who confirmed "ah....we don't always get it dead right....sorry."

SO WHY PUBLISH IT IN A TECHTALK THEN??

All the engineers (like me) will take it as gospel. DOH!!

I haven't really understood much of the technical jargon in this thread, but at last comprehend that bit..............the problem with a dead parrot.......sketch..........Monty Python.............. ::) ::) ::) ::) :D :D :D :D

Sorry, I'll get off this thread quick!! :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[


(http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/08_02/deadparrot1308_468x333.jpg)


A classic Welung, and no talk of sim cards then!! ::) ::) :D :D :D :D ;)

No just a 'sleeping' Norwegian blue ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Ccrt700 sim card
Post by: raksha on 10 January 2011, 14:58:58
Sorry to ressurect this long dead thread - but tried a Tesco PAYG SIM and got now joy from the CRT700 fitted in the CDX saloon.

Does the O2 sim have a different physical position within the large credit card for the SIM to the Tesco one, or are they all the same?
Title: Re: Ccrt700 sim card
Post by: Welung666 on 10 January 2011, 16:28:48
Industry standard, they are all in the same place :y
Title: Re: Ccrt700 sim card
Post by: tunnie on 10 January 2011, 18:28:29
No all SIM's are industry standard, they used to be all credit card size, now they are just the chip. When you get new ones they are still in credit card size, they can just be popped out.

Apple of course doing things their own way with 'Micro SIM' in iPhone4, its basically same SIM but with the extra plastic around edge trimmed off, so it really is just now the chip!
Title: Re: Ccrt700 sim card
Post by: Andy B on 10 January 2011, 18:32:01
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Sorry to ressurect this long dead thread - but tried a Tesco PAYG SIM and got now joy from the CRT700 fitted in the CDX saloon.

Does the O2 sim have a different physical position within the large credit card for the SIM to the Tesco one, or are they all the same?

You have it in the right way round?  ::) It's not hard to put it in the wrong way round.  ;) ;) (apparently  ::))