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Title: Loan sharks
Post by: Andy B on 10 January 2011, 17:23:43
I've been watching Top Gear repeats on Dave. There was a glossy advert for QuickQuid (http://www.quickquid.co.uk/adw-quickquid.html?src=goo&medium=PPC&campaign=QuickQuidBrand&Network=Search&kw=QuickQuid&gclid=CNGU4uaRsKYCFcoe4QodySSYYw) ..... just borrow till next pay day etc etc Have  you seen the APR?
[size=22]2278%[/size]
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Talk about kicking people when they most need help!

(Assuming things have got that bad people feel that a loan shark is the only place left to borrow money from.)
Title: Re: Loan sharks
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 10 January 2011, 17:32:12
Crooks......how is that kind of interest rate possibly legal?
Title: Re: Loan sharks
Post by: redelitev6 on 10 January 2011, 17:41:42
 >:( All to common these days,loads of these scumbags offering these sort of loans , leeches on society,i know one woman who has bought a washing machine from "brighthouse". by the time she has paid it off it will have cost her over £ 2000 ! >:(
Title: Re: Loan sharks
Post by: r1 on 10 January 2011, 18:28:14
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I've been watching Top Gear repeats on Dave. There was a glossy advert for QuickQuid (http://www.quickquid.co.uk/adw-quickquid.html?src=goo&medium=PPC&campaign=QuickQuidBrand&Network=Search&kw=QuickQuid&gclid=CNGU4uaRsKYCFcoe4QodySSYYw) ..... just borrow till next pay day etc etc Have  you seen the APR?
[size=22]2278%[/size]
  :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

Talk about kicking people when they most need help!

(Assuming things have got that bad people feel that a loan shark is the only place left to borrow money from.)

was talking about this the other day but my mate who reckons he knows about these things says its not to bad.
its only a short term loan [about a month as its a pay day loan]so as long as its paid on time its only a few quid.[so he says]
Title: Re: Loan sharks
Post by: Tony H on 10 January 2011, 18:51:46
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I've been watching Top Gear repeats on Dave. There was a glossy advert for QuickQuid (http://www.quickquid.co.uk/adw-quickquid.html?src=goo&medium=PPC&campaign=QuickQuidBrand&Network=Search&kw=QuickQuid&gclid=CNGU4uaRsKYCFcoe4QodySSYYw) ..... just borrow till next pay day etc etc Have  you seen the APR?
[size=22]2278%[/size]
  :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

Talk about kicking people when they most need help!

(Assuming things have got that bad people feel that a loan shark is the only place left to borrow money from.)

was talking about this the other day but my mate who reckons he knows about these things says its not to bad.
its only a short term loan [about a month as its a pay day loan]so as long as its paid on time its only a few quid.[so he says]

Yep your mates right the interest on a £100 loan for a couple of weeks would be around £8 a lot in percentage terms, but less than it seems in actual cash The adds I've seen do state that this type of loan is only suitable for short term periods but it does make you wonder how many people fall into the situation of not being able to pay it off quickly and end up paying huge amounts of interest. The people that this type of finance targets are usually the most vunerable  :-?
Title: Re: Loan sharks
Post by: russ0205 on 10 January 2011, 19:15:53
But the question is if you need £100 until pay day and pay £8 interest next month you will need £108 till payday, see what i mean  :'( :'(
Title: Re: Loan sharks
Post by: geoffr70 on 10 January 2011, 19:33:31
Another one of the tricks companies like this use is to give a promotional code which they say gives a discount off 25%. They want people to think (which they do) that this is a quarter. Well of 100% if is. Of 2200% it's not. Off the top of my head it's closer to 1%, so the savings in real terms are minimal. Yes people will say you have to check the small print, and I agree. But it's still a trick, which as has been pointed out already, preys on vulnerable people.
Title: Re: Loan sharks
Post by: hoofing it on 10 January 2011, 19:43:31
Still thats cheaper than provi there rate is 2936%. :o :o
My wifes pal has got one for £1000 and paying nearly 2k back.
I'ts about time the goverment set the max APR that lenders can charge to around 300%
Title: Re: Loan sharks
Post by: TheBoy on 10 January 2011, 19:47:28
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Still thats cheaper than provi there rate is 2936%. :o :o
My wifes pal has got one for £1000 and paying nearly 2k back.
I'ts about time the goverment set the max APR that lenders can charge to around 300%
Why should the governemtn get involved? Its a free market. People know the rates when they take one out.

We have enough pointless buearocracy harming this country, without adding to it.
Title: Re: Loan sharks
Post by: r1 on 10 January 2011, 19:53:10
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Still thats cheaper than provi there rate is 2936%. :o :o
My wifes pal has got one for £1000 and paying nearly 2k back.
I'ts about time the goverment set the max APR that lenders can charge to around 300%


i was at a mates house when the provi woman came round,she gave them 200 pounds but then took about 7 pounds back as first payment....
Title: Re: Loan sharks
Post by: Kevin Wood on 10 January 2011, 22:53:41
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Why should the governemtn get involved? Its a free market. People know the rates when they take one out.

We have enough pointless buearocracy harming this country, without adding to it.

Agreed. Someone who can't grasp basic arithmetic and realise they are being shafted is going to have a hard life anyway. Why the rest of us put up with a nanny state to try to avoid the inevitable?

Kevin
Title: Re: Loan sharks
Post by: Vamps on 10 January 2011, 22:59:00
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Still thats cheaper than provi there rate is 2936%. :o :o
My wifes pal has got one for £1000 and paying nearly 2k back.
I'ts about time the goverment set the max APR that lenders can charge to around 300%

I always thought that the provi was a fair and legitimate money lender.... :o :o
Title: Re: Loan sharks
Post by: Andy B on 10 January 2011, 23:02:36
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..... and realise they are being shafted is going to have a hard life anyway.  .....

but there are some that already have a hard life for whatever reason and know they're being shafted, but have no where else to turn.
Title: Re: Loan sharks
Post by: Martin_1962 on 10 January 2011, 23:04:32
We just need to legalise hunting of them
Title: Re: Loan sharks
Post by: geoffr70 on 10 January 2011, 23:08:42
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Still thats cheaper than provi there rate is 2936%. :o :o
My wifes pal has got one for £1000 and paying nearly 2k back.
I'ts about time the goverment set the max APR that lenders can charge to around 300%

I always thought that the provi was a fair and legitimate money lender.... :o :o

The opposite is the case IME unfortunately. I know a middle aged man who is mentally ill, never worked (genuine case) and in the nicest way possible, isn't really with it. He is very vulnerable. The provi come round and he gets loans all the time. He just says and does what people want him to. It's a shame really. They've been taking advantage of him for years. I know a few more like it aswell.

But generally I agree with The Boy. Getting the government involved isn't the right way. We are on our won in this life. It is upto you to decide what's best. There are too many laws in this country, most of which penalise honest people even though they are intended to get the scrotes among us, who take no notice anyway.

I don't think you can legislate to combat peoples morals anyay (or lack of).
Title: Re: Loan sharks
Post by: Vamps on 10 January 2011, 23:09:02
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We just need to legalise hunting of them

 :-?
Title: Re: Loan sharks
Post by: Martin_1962 on 10 January 2011, 23:13:50
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We just need to legalise hunting of them

 :-?


Loan sharks and ambulance chasing lawyers
Title: Re: Loan sharks
Post by: millwall on 10 January 2011, 23:25:46
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We just need to legalise hunting of them

 :-?


Loan sharks and ambulance chasing lawyers
cant see the harm in that  maybe make it a new sport  who can extract the most blood ;D :y
Title: Re: Loan sharks
Post by: MarkG on 10 January 2011, 23:45:17
Those ads really piss me off. Praying on the vulnerable. Only a few quid someone said? If you borrow £100 at 2278% interest you pay £6.24 PER DAY in interest alone which means just 1 month after taking out the loan you owe £100 + £187.50 = £287.50 and it will continue to grow exponentially.

Still, we're told these are the good guys. The unlicenced money lenders are even worse. Borrow money from these guys and you never pay it off because you never know how much you owe (they just make it up)
Title: Re: Loan sharks
Post by: 05omegav6 on 11 January 2011, 02:15:39
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We just need to legalise hunting of them

That'd do it. Mind you don't use foxes dogs though as that would be unethical illegal downright naughty ::)

Seriously though, who hasn't been sent a letter from their bank/credit card company offering them a guaranteed  amount of money at x%, then been tempted to ring, only to be told that because you can't afford the repayments, the interest will be double.

LLoyds very helpfully suggested that I consolidate everything from my overdraft to my left arm. The net result of this offer would be that my average apr of 9% would suddenly become 24%, putting everything in one pot, and saving me £2 a month. >:(

Girl on counter was quite annoyed when I politely declined their generous opportunity. If they  really felt that saving 7 pence a day was the best way to solve my problems, or anyone else's for that matter, then they haven't learnt anything from the last two years. Also pointed out that as base rate was only .5%, 24% was hardly competitive. >:(

Rant over.


And now for the weather...  ::)